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 45 2018-10-11T02:31:46  <gmaxwell> Anoter "can't create addresses" https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9n5o2b/cannot_create_new_receving_addresses_in_bitcoin/
 46 2018-10-11T02:35:06  <gwillen> it's definitely confusing to have to click 'request payment' to make a receiving address (I assume that's now the intended flow)
 47 2018-10-11T02:35:27  <gwillen> like, 9 times out of 10 I am not doing anything that resembles requesting a payment
 48 2018-10-11T02:35:30  <gwillen> because I'm just paying myself
 49 2018-10-11T02:35:33  <gwillen> from some other wallet
 50 2018-10-11T02:36:20  <gmaxwell> right, that was actually the intended flow before too. I'd personally forgotten there was another button for that.
 51 2018-10-11T02:36:30  <gmaxwell> but clearly other people saw it differently.
 52 2018-10-11T02:40:00  <gwillen> I definitely always used the other button
 53 2018-10-11T02:40:23  <gwillen> when it went away I was briefly confused, but it only took a couple minutes to deduce that I was probably meant to do the other thing
 54 2018-10-11T02:40:29  <gwillen> but I know a lot more than the average bitcoin user
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 57 2018-10-11T02:46:56  <grubles> i don't think i have ever used a payment request to receive a payment
 58 2018-10-11T02:47:28  <grubles> just: generate receive address -> copy/paste to person paying me
 59 2018-10-11T02:48:42  <gwillen> yeah, same
 60 2018-10-11T02:49:16  <gwillen> it's sort of weird because even though you _can_ use the payment request button to just make an address, it clearly really wants you to use the extra payment request workflow stuff, which I have literally never had a use for
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 64 2018-10-11T02:54:07  <Randolf> I always generate addresses separately.  I never use the in-wallet functions.
 65 2018-10-11T02:54:21  <Randolf> I think it's a great feature for non-technical end-users though.
 66 2018-10-11T02:56:50  <sipa> Randolf: all of this is about wallet functions
 67 2018-10-11T02:57:11  <echeveria> other than a labeling problem this doesn't seem like much of one.
 68 2018-10-11T02:57:28  <echeveria> the request payment window is literally just asking for an address label, right?
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 78 2018-10-11T03:35:42  <gmaxwell> gwillen: there is no extra "payment request workflow stuff"
 79 2018-10-11T03:35:51  <gmaxwell> at least if I understand what you're saying.
 80 2018-10-11T03:36:05  <gmaxwell> it doesn't support generating BIP70 invoices.
 81 2018-10-11T03:36:25  <gmaxwell> the payment request stuff is just a prompt to get an address and label it.
 82 2018-10-11T03:37:04  <echeveria> gwillen: grubles: have ever of you actually looked at the interface you're commenting on?
 83 2018-10-11T03:38:45  <TD-Linux> gmaxwell, it generates bip70 bitcoin: urls
 84 2018-10-11T03:39:00  <sipa> TD-Linux: you mean bip20?
 85 2018-10-11T03:39:06  <TD-Linux> oh bip20
 86 2018-10-11T03:39:09  <echeveria> TD-Linux: lol no it doesn't
 87 2018-10-11T03:39:25  <TD-Linux> yeah I looked in bip70 and saw bitcoin:
 88 2018-10-11T03:39:36  <gmaxwell> TD-Linux: thats the misunderstanding I was guessing gwillen had that I was attempting to correct. :)
 89 2018-10-11T03:40:26  <echeveria> TD-Linux: it honestly doesn't even show you a BIP20 URI as anything but an options.
 90 2018-10-11T03:40:45  <TD-Linux> echeveria, it pops up a text box with a bip20 uri and an address in the same box
 91 2018-10-11T03:41:23  <echeveria> TD-Linux: with two buttons at the bottom, "copy address" and "copy URI"
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 93 2018-10-11T03:42:57  <TD-Linux> would be nice to have two text boxes with the copy button next to each, as is conventional on web forms (but that's nitpicking)
 94 2018-10-11T03:43:49  <provoostenator> TD-Linux: BIP70 uses BIP21 style URI's. An app that can handle bitcoin:... may or may not support BIP70, usually not.
 95 2018-10-11T03:44:15  <TD-Linux> the "history" is also a bit awkward though. it doesn't show addresses which doesn't help obviousness
 96 2018-10-11T03:44:26  <TD-Linux> actually my biggest beef with the history is it doesn't show associated transactions
 97 2018-10-11T03:44:45  <provoostenator> You're welcome to improve it, but tweaking things in QT can be a painful process.
 98 2018-10-11T03:45:03  <TD-Linux> it shows me how much I requested but not how much I got
 99 2018-10-11T03:46:28  <echeveria> TD-Linux: a good rule of thumb is that literally nothing uses, or supports BIP70 other than Bitpay. it'd be nice to show addresses in that form I suppose, generally well labeled they're usable in the transaction list but only if it was a simple transaction paying it.
100 2018-10-11T03:47:05  <TD-Linux> no I don't care about bip70, I meant plain addresses
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111 2018-10-11T04:21:39  <tradermyx> blocknotify = "php "c:\long path here\handle.php" %s" <-- How does Bitcoin Core want me to escape the inner path?
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113 2018-10-11T04:21:53  <tradermyx> blocknotify = "php \"c:\long path here\handle.php\" %s" <-- Like that?
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116 2018-10-11T04:22:11  <tradermyx> Or ""? Or something else?
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118 2018-10-11T04:27:01  <sipa> tradermyx: i don't think you need any escaping at all
119 2018-10-11T04:27:09  <sipa> " is not treated specially
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128 2018-10-11T05:06:01  <tradermyx> sipa: ?
129 2018-10-11T05:06:25  <tradermyx> " is both on Unix and Windows what you need around any paths that contain spaces and other special chars.
130 2018-10-11T05:06:58  <tradermyx> So how does Bitcoin Core want it to be escaped?
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134 2018-10-11T05:09:28  <gmaxwell> tradermyx: You need to escape on command lines. not "any paths". e.g. you don't need to type quotes into filename dialog boxes.
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138 2018-10-11T05:24:01  <tradermyx> gmaxwell: How would it know where to stop if I go like this? blocknotify = "php c:\long path here\handle.php %s"
139 2018-10-11T05:24:10  <tradermyx> gmaxwell: It would think the path is "c:\long".
140 2018-10-11T05:24:43  <tradermyx> At least in all other contexts ever... unless Bitcoin Core's config is different?
141 2018-10-11T05:26:55  <echeveria> tradermyx: escape the spaces, as always. this is not really development related. #bitcoin
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144 2018-10-11T05:31:35  <tradermyx> echeveria: I've literally never "escaped the spaces", nor did I know it was possible.
145 2018-10-11T05:32:43  <tradermyx> And escape them how?
146 2018-10-11T05:34:26  <tradermyx> Once I have Bitcoin Core running and the console window open, can I make it output whatever value it chose for blocknotify?
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167 2018-10-11T06:44:16  <PinkHoodie> Hi everyone.
168 2018-10-11T06:45:03  <PinkHoodie> I'm looking for information of why the method `signrawtransaction` is getting deprecated in a later version of bitcoin core
169 2018-10-11T06:45:14  <PinkHoodie> https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-reference#signrawtransaction
170 2018-10-11T06:46:33  <PinkHoodie> I want to manage my addresses outside the node for security reasons, but without that method it becomes painful
171 2018-10-11T06:46:49  <PinkHoodie> SInce I don't see why to reinvent the wheel when the node has the function built in
172 2018-10-11T06:48:02  <sipa> PinkHoodie: it has simply been replaced with two methods
173 2018-10-11T06:48:21  <sipa> signrawtransactionwithwallet and signrawtransactionwithkey
174 2018-10-11T06:48:56  <sipa> since 0.17 also new methods have been added that operate on a different format called psbt
175 2018-10-11T06:49:04  <sipa> which should be easier for most workflows
176 2018-10-11T06:49:25  <sipa> there's certainly no functionality being removed, just renamed
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178 2018-10-11T06:51:40  <PinkHoodie> Great!
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180 2018-10-11T06:52:18  <PinkHoodie> Thank you very much @sipa
181 2018-10-11T06:53:18  <PinkHoodie> I got confused since it is not on bitcoin.org dev reference
182 2018-10-11T06:53:25  <PinkHoodie> You just made my day
183 2018-10-11T06:53:30  <PinkHoodie> I hope you have a great one too
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204 2018-10-11T08:35:12  <Sentineo> hm is there a way for walletnotify to tell me which wallet did the notification in a multiwallet setup? If not, is there something like that planed?
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209 2018-10-11T08:39:43  <promag> Sentineo: yes, see #13339
210 2018-10-11T08:39:46  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13339 | wallet: Replace %w by wallet name in -walletnotify script by promag · Pull Request #13339 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
211 2018-10-11T08:40:19  <promag> wumpus: should be 0.18? ^
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213 2018-10-11T09:01:05  <Sentineo> promag: ty!
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228 2018-10-11T09:31:44  <ken2812221> tradermyx: Can you try blocknotify = php "c:\long path here\handle.php" %s
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235 2018-10-11T10:29:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #14463: Remove a platform dependant type (master...20181011-rbf-nseq) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14463
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271 2018-10-11T13:37:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ken2812221 opened pull request #14464: rafactor: Remove use of boost::condition_variable and boost::mutex in checkqueue (master...drop-boost-cond) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14464
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274 2018-10-11T13:48:28  <wumpus> provoostenator: sure, tagged
275 2018-10-11T13:48:32  <wumpus> promag^
276 2018-10-11T13:48:54  <promag> ty
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312 2018-10-11T15:38:20  <tradermyx> Once I have Bitcoin Core running and the console window open, can I make it output whatever value it chose for blocknotify?
313 2018-10-11T15:38:25  <tradermyx> (So I know I escaped it properly)
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321 2018-10-11T16:01:25  <tradermyx> I keep getting terminal windows pop up for a split second before they disappear at semi-regular intervals (every time blocknotify is run)... so things cannot be working correctly.
322 2018-10-11T16:01:44  <tradermyx> And yeah, I should probably ask this in ##bitcoin...
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328 2018-10-11T16:07:49  <Arvidt> Could someone please review PR #14425 ?
329 2018-10-11T16:07:51  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14425 | Net: Do not re-enable Onion network when it was disabled via onlynet by wodry · Pull Request #14425 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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350 2018-10-11T16:49:46  <promag> are we meeting up today?
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352 2018-10-11T16:52:20  <sipa> in 2 hours, right?
353 2018-10-11T16:53:57  <promag> yes that's the time
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378 2018-10-11T18:17:57  <wumpus> yes
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383 2018-10-11T18:50:32  <Arvidt> Is the meeting canceled, or is it not public anymore?
384 2018-10-11T18:51:09  <jcorgan> 9 minutes
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389 2018-10-11T18:58:36  <wumpus> dunno, I suspect many people are in Tokyo and might not join, but we'll see
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391 2018-10-11T19:00:19  <wumpus> #startmeeting
392 2018-10-11T19:00:19  <lightningbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 11 19:00:19 2018 UTC.  The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
393 2018-10-11T19:00:19  <lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
394 2018-10-11T19:00:23  <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr btcdrak sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator
395 2018-10-11T19:00:26  <jonasschnelli> hi
396 2018-10-11T19:00:28  <promag> hi
397 2018-10-11T19:00:33  <sdaftuar> hello!
398 2018-10-11T19:01:24  <wumpus> proposed topics?
399 2018-10-11T19:01:30  <gmaxwell> Hi.
400 2018-10-11T19:02:11  <promag> hp?
401 2018-10-11T19:02:31  <jonasschnelli> topic: OSX dmg issue
402 2018-10-11T19:02:37  <jonasschnelli> +proposal
403 2018-10-11T19:02:49  * jonasschnelli is in train, connection may randomly drop
404 2018-10-11T19:03:15  <wumpus> IRCing from a train is pretty hard-core
405 2018-10-11T19:03:49  <wumpus> #topic High priority for review
406 2018-10-11T19:03:50  <jonasschnelli> well...
407 2018-10-11T19:04:08  <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8
408 2018-10-11T19:05:08  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: it's better than it used to be, I suppose :D
409 2018-10-11T19:05:42  <jonasschnelli> (they have 4g repeater in almost all trains now, probably expect the one im sitting in)
410 2018-10-11T19:07:12  <wumpus> I used to travel by train a lot ~10 years ago, with a crappy GPRS modem, tunneling over ssh, losing connection every few minutes, it was really a nightmare at the time; was before trains had WiFi here in NL
411 2018-10-11T19:07:33  <wumpus> any suggestions to add to high priority for review?
412 2018-10-11T19:07:35  <promag> #14291 could some review by wallet "owners"
413 2018-10-11T19:07:37  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14291 | wallet: Add ListWalletDir utility function by promag · Pull Request #14291 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
414 2018-10-11T19:08:01  <wumpus> you already have 14291 on the list
415 2018-10-11T19:08:22  <promag> I know
416 2018-10-11T19:08:26  <phantomcircuit> `hi
417 2018-10-11T19:09:14  <gleb> hi
418 2018-10-11T19:09:46  <wumpus> #topic OSX dmg issue (jonasschnelli)
419 2018-10-11T19:09:48  <ken2812221> hi
420 2018-10-11T19:10:00  <jonasschnelli> Issue is #14414
421 2018-10-11T19:10:01  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14414 | Problem upgrading to 0.17.0 on macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 · Issue #14414 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
422 2018-10-11T19:10:13  <jonasschnelli> TLDR: our 0.17.0 DMG image is corrupt...
423 2018-10-11T19:10:30  <jonasschnelli> Probably due to a upstream "bug" in the ds_store python module
424 2018-10-11T19:11:07  <jonasschnelli> IMO the best way to fix this is by "rolling back" to manual generated .DS_Store files
425 2018-10-11T19:11:09  <wumpus> it *crashes* the finder?
426 2018-10-11T19:11:27  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: in one case, I had a finder crash. Yes.
427 2018-10-11T19:11:35  <jonasschnelli> But most cases, it just didn't open the image
428 2018-10-11T19:11:36  <promag> me too
429 2018-10-11T19:11:44  <jonasschnelli> The crash worries me a bit...
430 2018-10-11T19:11:45  <wumpus> that's pretty interestin if it's exploitable
431 2018-10-11T19:11:49  <promag> only one crash though
432 2018-10-11T19:12:09  <wumpus> anyhow, how did we get here, why didn't it happen before?
433 2018-10-11T19:12:26  <jonasschnelli> The DS_Store fileformat is not open..
434 2018-10-11T19:12:35  <jonasschnelli> it has been reverse engeneered AFAIK
435 2018-10-11T19:12:42  <wumpus> can we go back to an older ds_store python module
436 2018-10-11T19:12:48  <jonasschnelli> and the module we use (ds_store module in python) probably messes up
437 2018-10-11T19:12:58  <wumpus> yes
438 2018-10-11T19:13:00  <jonasschnelli> and the mess up only appears on OSX 10.12 upwards
439 2018-10-11T19:13:11  <jonasschnelli> I don't think older versions would work..
440 2018-10-11T19:13:26  <jonasschnelli> I don't think we have upgraded from an older version
441 2018-10-11T19:13:30  <rex4539> For me it crashes the Finder always. Like 100% reproducibility.
442 2018-10-11T19:13:32  <wumpus> but it used to work right?
443 2018-10-11T19:13:42  <jonasschnelli> only on older OSX versions
444 2018-10-11T19:13:53  <wumpus> so 0.16.x also crashes on newer OSX?
445 2018-10-11T19:13:56  <jonasschnelli> I think its an "incompatibility" that only affects OSX 10.12+
446 2018-10-11T19:14:17  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: good question.
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448 2018-10-11T19:14:28  <wumpus> I mean the issue talks about upgrading to 0.17
449 2018-10-11T19:14:32  <jonasschnelli> I think they don't... which would lead to something we changed.
450 2018-10-11T19:15:12  <wumpus> I don't think much changed with regard to macosx tooling since then but I guess it's worth checking
451 2018-10-11T19:15:35  <jonasschnelli> Maybe the move to Bionic?
452 2018-10-11T19:15:49  <wumpus> do we use it from the distribution?
453 2018-10-11T19:16:03  <jonasschnelli> no... we load the python package
454 2018-10-11T19:16:13  <jonasschnelli> but maybe its not the ds_store. packaghe
455 2018-10-11T19:16:14  <promag> can we know the module version used in a previous working version?
456 2018-10-11T19:16:27  <jonasschnelli> AFAIK we have not touched it,...
457 2018-10-11T19:16:31  <wumpus> it's possible that something else in the dependency forest causes a subtle change, of course
458 2018-10-11T19:16:46  <rex4539> Just tried with 0.16.3 and it doesn't crash here. So it's a regression for sure.
459 2018-10-11T19:16:48  <wumpus> maybe a newer python
460 2018-10-11T19:16:51  <jonasschnelli> 0.16.3 is not affected (tested just now)
461 2018-10-11T19:17:22  <jonasschnelli> Removing the DS_Store file will cure the issue though...
462 2018-10-11T19:17:29  <jonasschnelli> could be the DMG creation
463 2018-10-11T19:17:37  <wumpus> can just *remove* it?
464 2018-10-11T19:17:56  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: I propose to just replace it with a manually created DS_Store...
465 2018-10-11T19:17:58  <promag> huh, both 0.17 and 0.16.3 use the same stuff right?
466 2018-10-11T19:18:10  <wumpus> I... don't understand enough about OSX to say anything sensible about this
467 2018-10-11T19:18:29  <kanzure> hi.
468 2018-10-11T19:18:54  <wumpus> promag: 0.16.3 builds using trusty, 0.17 started building using bionic
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470 2018-10-11T19:19:15  <jonasschnelli> However, .. I'll investigate further (didn't hat too much time last days)
471 2018-10-11T19:19:20  <wumpus> might want to compare the ds_store files between both
472 2018-10-11T19:19:21  <ken2812221> python3?
473 2018-10-11T19:19:31  <wumpus> it might be some unicode encoding issue or whatnot
474 2018-10-11T19:19:44  <jonasschnelli> The DS_Store file is just a file that contains info about the disk image background and icon position, etc.
475 2018-10-11T19:19:45  <wumpus> 0.16 was already python 3 wasn't it?
476 2018-10-11T19:20:02  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: good point.. i'll do that
477 2018-10-11T19:20:20  <ken2812221> But #11881 is not in 0.16
478 2018-10-11T19:20:23  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11881 | Remove Python2 support by jnewbery · Pull Request #11881 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
479 2018-10-11T19:20:39  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: if we can just remove it, that might be the best way forward, instead of relying on someone's reverse engineering which is apparently failing for new versions
480 2018-10-11T19:20:55  <promag> anyway shame on finder..
481 2018-10-11T19:20:56  <ken2812221> It changes custom_dsstore.py and macdeployqtplus
482 2018-10-11T19:21:02  <jonasschnelli> Yes. But the nice background is cool
483 2018-10-11T19:21:07  <jonasschnelli> (Its somehow expected on OSX)
484 2018-10-11T19:21:36  <jonasschnelli> ken2812221: is 11881 not 0.16 but 0.17?
485 2018-10-11T19:21:41  <wumpus> I agree nice things are nice, but working at all is more important :)
486 2018-10-11T19:21:53  <jonasschnelli> sure. :)
487 2018-10-11T19:22:22  <jonasschnelli> Removing it is an option,.. lets wait a couple of more days to track the issue and if we can't fix it, remote it
488 2018-10-11T19:22:42  <jonasschnelli> (and wait until someome brings it back in a stable way)
489 2018-10-11T19:22:57  <promag> we could generate it with trusty thru docker
490 2018-10-11T19:22:58  <wumpus> 11881 is indeed in 0.17 but not 0.16
491 2018-10-11T19:23:47  <promag> (if that's the problem)
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493 2018-10-11T19:24:09  <jonasschnelli> then it's probably 11881
494 2018-10-11T19:25:10  <wumpus> we can try reverting it, at least for 0.17.x branch
495 2018-10-11T19:25:31  <wumpus> but in any case we need to knwo what is the difference in the generated file
496 2018-10-11T19:25:53  <wumpus> might be a straightforward difference or a nightmare
497 2018-10-11T19:25:57  <jonasschnelli> I'll test a revert in my WIP PR via gitian
498 2018-10-11T19:28:17  <wumpus> thanks! hope a revert is doable by now, but I guess, there's not much change in those files
499 2018-10-11T19:28:21  <wumpus> any other topics?
500 2018-10-11T19:30:39  <wumpus> apparently not !
501 2018-10-11T19:30:54  <wumpus> thanks everyone, wrapping up the meeting then
502 2018-10-11T19:31:03  <wumpus> #endmeeting
503 2018-10-11T19:31:03  <lightningbot> Meeting ended Thu Oct 11 19:31:03 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
504 2018-10-11T19:31:03  <lightningbot> Minutes:        http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2018/bitcoin-core-dev.2018-10-11-19.00.html
505 2018-10-11T19:31:03  <lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2018/bitcoin-core-dev.2018-10-11-19.00.txt
506 2018-10-11T19:31:03  <lightningbot> Log:            http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2018/bitcoin-core-dev.2018-10-11-19.00.log.html
507 2018-10-11T19:31:07  <promag> later ppl
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510 2018-10-11T19:43:23  <jonasschnelli> the revert of the relevant parts in 11881 didn't fixed it: https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/build/831
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512 2018-10-11T19:49:28  <tradermyx> queip: ??
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521 2018-10-11T20:24:28  <sipa> seems i was asleep for the meeting
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525 2018-10-11T20:34:24  <promag> no problem sipa, you can still ack 14291 :P
526 2018-10-11T20:39:26  <sipa> jonasschnelli: i used to irc from trains etc through iodine (an ip over dns proxy), which often worked without registering for the internet access :)
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530 2018-10-11T20:55:21  <tradermyx> I give up. I've now wasted countless hours of my life trying to figure out the basic information about how Bitcoin Core's .conf file wants strings escaped.
531 2018-10-11T20:55:37  <tradermyx> What is the solution? I've guessed my way through countless variations that don't work.
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533 2018-10-11T20:57:19  <sipa> tradermyx: there is no escaping whatsoever
534 2018-10-11T20:57:24  <tradermyx> sipa: ?
535 2018-10-11T20:57:26  <sipa> the lines are of the form
536 2018-10-11T20:57:29  <sipa> key=value
537 2018-10-11T20:57:40  <sipa> where key is the key, and value is the value
538 2018-10-11T20:57:45  <tradermyx> sipa:
539 2018-10-11T20:57:55  <sipa> quotation marks are not treated specially
540 2018-10-11T20:57:55  <tradermyx> blocknotify =	"C:\PHP\php.exe "C:\Users\John Doe\Documents\...\handle_bitcoin_stuff.php" blocknotify %s"
541 2018-10-11T20:58:09  <tradermyx> Are you saying that the outer "s are to go entirely?
542 2018-10-11T20:58:13  <tradermyx> Because I'm 99% sure I tried that.
543 2018-10-11T20:58:17  <sipa> yes
544 2018-10-11T20:58:55  <promag> yes, drop outer "
545 2018-10-11T20:59:04  <tradermyx> Alright. Gonna try that right now.
546 2018-10-11T20:59:25  <esotericnonsense> lol.
547 2018-10-11T21:00:05  <esotericnonsense> you've wasted "countless hours" when you could have just made a script without spaces in the path?
548 2018-10-11T21:00:16  <tradermyx> "could have just made a script without spaces in the path?"?
549 2018-10-11T21:00:20  <tradermyx> Huh?
550 2018-10-11T21:00:25  <tradermyx> The path contains spaces.
551 2018-10-11T21:00:28  <esotericnonsense> yeah, i'm not biting, sorry.
552 2018-10-11T21:00:37  <tradermyx> Biting what?
553 2018-10-11T21:00:49  <esotericnonsense> i don't know who pays you to troll these channels, but you really should find something better to do. I'm sure there's something out there for you.
554 2018-10-11T21:00:52  <tradermyx> It's a simple fact that the path contains spaces. WTF are you saying?
555 2018-10-11T21:01:07  <promag> tradermyx: did it work?
556 2018-10-11T21:01:17  <tradermyx> promag: Not sure yet. It hasn't executed one of them so far.
557 2018-10-11T21:01:19  <tradermyx> (After restarting)
558 2018-10-11T21:01:50  <tradermyx> And even if this particular path hadn't contained spaces, I would still need to have quotes around it for when other people have different paths.
559 2018-10-11T21:02:27  <promag> tradermyx: you should test in regtest first, there you can generate blocks
560 2018-10-11T21:02:32  <tradermyx> Also, these paranoid delusions about "trolls" has got to end. You literally can't ask questions anymore on IRC or anywhere without these nonsensical accusations.
561 2018-10-11T21:02:45  <tradermyx> promag: I've tried to, but that's a whole chapter of itself to understand.
562 2018-10-11T21:03:01  <tradermyx> (As I've probably mentioned in here multiple times.)
563 2018-10-11T21:03:06  <esotericnonsense> tradermyx: you've been here for well over a year and every time I see you you're asking a deliberately obtuse question.
564 2018-10-11T21:03:10  <esotericnonsense> _every time_.
565 2018-10-11T21:03:19  <tradermyx> esotericnonsense: "OK".
566 2018-10-11T21:03:22  <esotericnonsense> I've never seen you have an interaction that isn't some variant of this bullshit.
567 2018-10-11T21:03:34  <tradermyx> esotericnonsense: I think you need to talk to a professional.
568 2018-10-11T21:03:37  <tradermyx> Seriously.
569 2018-10-11T21:03:38  <esotericnonsense> I don't know why you're even here and haven't been banned from the channels, I guess other people have more patience.
570 2018-10-11T21:03:45  <esotericnonsense> yeah, sure.
571 2018-10-11T21:03:49  <promag> tradermyx: you must understand that you are not having developer problems, and this channel is not for support, which is what you want
572 2018-10-11T21:04:07  <tradermyx> Well, I "develop", but not Bitcoin Core... rather trying to use it.
573 2018-10-11T21:04:35  <sipa> for questions about usage go to #bitcoin or https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com
574 2018-10-11T21:04:37  <promag> tradermyx: there you go, this is not a generic developers channel
575 2018-10-11T21:04:50  <tradermyx> That's another thing... Everything is always "off-topic".
576 2018-10-11T21:05:24  <sipa> this channel is about develop*ing* bitcoin core
577 2018-10-11T21:05:39  <sipa> so yes, your questions about usage or development with bitcoin core are off topic
578 2018-10-11T21:05:53  <tradermyx> So I ask in ##bitcoin and nobody responds for hours. Ghost town. What do you want me to do? Sit and twiddle my thumbs or ask where there are experts on this particular software?
579 2018-10-11T21:05:59  <sipa> i don't mind answering details of the implementation here if they're helpful to you
580 2018-10-11T21:06:31  <tradermyx> It works now, at least. Thanks.
581 2018-10-11T21:06:35  <tradermyx> (It just ran one)
582 2018-10-11T21:06:48  <jcorgan> tradermyx: nobody is entitled to answers on irc. every channel has a topic, and ops willing to enforce it. please be considerate of that.
583 2018-10-11T21:07:07  <sipa> try bitcoin.stackexchange.com too, and have some patience
584 2018-10-11T21:07:57  <tradermyx> A scary thing is that esotericnonsense isn't unusual. I see this all the time where if you ask any question, you are immediately called a "troll". Maybe you have a completely different mentality where people just sit around all day and ask "fake" questions (???) but that's... not... what I do?
585 2018-10-11T21:08:23  <tradermyx> My questions are about very real problems that occur all the time.
586 2018-10-11T21:08:35  <gmaxwell> Bored now.
587 2018-10-11T21:08:44  <tradermyx> Ooookay.
588 2018-10-11T21:08:57  <sipa> tradermyx: ok, still not on topic here
589 2018-10-11T21:09:02  <tradermyx> Is this where you ban me and go on thinking I'm a "troll" who asks "fake questions"?
590 2018-10-11T21:09:07  <tradermyx> You are fucking sick.
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592 2018-10-11T21:09:51  <promag> tradermyx: glad we could help
593 2018-10-11T21:10:19  <gmaxwell> Next customer!
594 2018-10-11T21:11:46  <promag> gmaxwell: there you go # 14291
595 2018-10-11T21:13:06  <esotericnonsense> i don't know how this guy isn't banned from the channels here, seriously. this is probably why i'm not an op or whatever.
596 2018-10-11T21:14:00  <esotericnonsense> i guess others just use their ignore list more liberally, heh.
597 2018-10-11T21:14:06  <jcorgan> be careful what you ask for, opping can ruin your outlook on humanity
598 2018-10-11T21:14:10  <gmaxwell> esotericnonsense: this channel has a clear enough topic that it's harder for people to be disruptive here, so generally we can be more tolerant.
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606 2018-10-11T22:06:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ken2812221 opened pull request #14465: tests: Stop node before removing the notification file (master...test-notification-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14465
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619 2018-10-11T23:24:04  <gwillen> jonasschnelli: so I heard at CoreDev that you're basically the only person who reviews gui changes and I should probably talk to you about my proposed gui changes? :-)
620 2018-10-11T23:24:28  <gwillen> (adding an offline signing wizard, somewhat in the mold of what Armory has)
621 2018-10-11T23:24:44  <gwillen> (using PSBT for passing the transactions around)
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