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  7 2018-11-06T00:15:22  <warren> meshcollider: I dunno, making bitcoin-qt work again seems controversial to me.
  8 2018-11-06T00:16:05  <meshcollider> lol
  9 2018-11-06T00:22:45  <warren> Is one pull request with a bunch of different unrelated backports really the best way to get people to review and test them?
 10 2018-11-06T00:23:47  <warren> our review and testing resources are already very thin. in terms of a stable branch process, if you look at linux-kernel the stable branch maintainers seem to just merge stuff into an ongoing stable branch, which are tagged for testing and released after quality control.
 11 2018-11-06T00:29:56  <sipa> backports basically gets no review/testing
 12 2018-11-06T00:30:05  <meshcollider> warren: backports are generally pretty straightforward, because each commit was already reviewed in the original PR, so most backports just check its the same diff
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 23 2018-11-06T01:21:20  <gleb> Hi! I know a way to connect to a node through mininode (in regtest), but is it possible to make a cpp node connect to my mininode (direction matters)? If yes, which test has an example of that or which class I should use?
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 29 2018-11-06T01:56:05  <luke-jr> gleb: one of my PRs adds that
 30 2018-11-06T01:58:17  <luke-jr> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10593
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 47 2018-11-06T03:03:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ken2812221 opened pull request #14665: appveyor: Script improvement part II (master...appveyor-quiet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14665
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 87 2018-11-06T05:50:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 reopened pull request #14021: Import key origin data through importmulti (master...import-multi-hd) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14021
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103 2018-11-06T07:13:31  <wumpus> yes, backports are generally very straightforward, and one PR to port over a bunch tends to work well in practice and saves on PR/merge overhead, *unless* there's a significant difference between the code base versions then it warrants creating a seprate one
104 2018-11-06T07:14:06  <wumpus> but I can't really remember one instance where backporting specifically went wrong
105 2018-11-06T07:18:01  <warren> We need to come up with a standard process for backports especially as the availability of review and testing bandwidth is very limited. In practice, adding more different things to the backports PR will make it harder to review. How many reviewers will check that it is actually the same as the original? How many will actually build and test it?
106 2018-11-06T07:18:53  <warren> Can tools tell us that a cherry-picked commit actually was the same as the original (applied cleanly), or it required manual merge?
107 2018-11-06T07:22:40  <warren> Back in pre-2010 Red Hat days I can remember one or two cases where a cleanly applied backport patch (no fuzz) led to unexpected bad behavior. It is not without risk as you know.
108 2018-11-06T07:23:21  <sipa> warren: yeah testing whether a cherry-pick was clean is very possible
109 2018-11-06T07:23:41  <sipa> i expect that most of our cherry-picks for backports are clean or very close to it
110 2018-11-06T07:24:11  <meshcollider> generally the changes that are backported aren't very large
111 2018-11-06T07:25:04  <wumpus> yes, it is possible to hek whether a cherry-pick is clean, one easy way is to repeat it and compare
112 2018-11-06T07:26:16  <wumpus> and yes, even cherry-picks that are clean can in some cases introduce bugs if the code around it changed subtly, no argument there, though as said in our case I've never seen it going wrong so I'm not sure it warrants extra work now
113 2018-11-06T07:26:28  <wumpus> we don't backport things that far usually
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115 2018-11-06T07:27:19  <wumpus> and only *usually* minor changes, like bugfixes
116 2018-11-06T07:27:23  <wumpus> as meshcollider says
117 2018-11-06T07:28:09  <meshcollider> and of course, if we are backporting to fix a bug, we would test the binary against that bug to guarantee it did indeed fix it :)
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119 2018-11-06T07:28:22  <wumpus> if you're in the typical redhat scenario and want to backport nowaydays fixes to 2010 era software, yes this will be lots more painful
120 2018-11-06T07:28:48  <wumpus> meshcollider: right-- the accompanying tests should be backprted too!
121 2018-11-06T07:31:52  <sipa> which generally happens
122 2018-11-06T07:35:17  <gmaxwell> in any case, I think sipa's point above was basically the complete answer: the backports get almost no testing, there isn't much more to say about them.
123 2018-11-06T07:35:31  <warren> back in 2013 I maintained a feature backport branch for stuff like watch-only and coin control. Back then I was adding to commit messages something like:
124 2018-11-06T07:35:33  <warren> Cherry-picked-from: <githash>
125 2018-11-06T07:35:33  <gmaxwell> We recommend people run current software.
126 2018-11-06T07:36:30  <wumpus> backporting features is not something we do, but you're free to maintain your own backport branches of course
127 2018-11-06T07:36:38  <warren> of course
128 2018-11-06T07:36:51  <warren> I meant maybe that could be a standard to help reviewers compare it more easily?
129 2018-11-06T07:37:50  <wumpus> warren: we have had Github-Pull: and Rebased-From: <commit> like *forever*
130 2018-11-06T07:37:59  <warren> ooh good
131 2018-11-06T07:38:04  <wumpus> it's even used by the release note generation script
132 2018-11-06T07:38:13  <wumpus> please, actually look at the current situation before suggesting things
133 2018-11-06T07:38:18  <warren> sorry yes.
134 2018-11-06T07:39:17  <warren> How about a way to note in the commit when something was not a clean cherry-pick? A hint toward reviewers?
135 2018-11-06T07:40:14  <meshcollider> if the reviewers don't notice any difference then they aren't doing a very good job reviewing
136 2018-11-06T07:40:42  <wumpus> there's usually a conflicts:  that git generates itself
137 2018-11-06T07:40:49  <wumpus> which lists the conflicting files
138 2018-11-06T07:40:56  <wumpus> are we talking about actual problems here?
139 2018-11-06T07:41:33  <meshcollider> don't believe so :p
140 2018-11-06T07:41:40  <warren> in the case of cherrypick? Um. Maybe I hadn't used it in a while.
141 2018-11-06T07:41:57  <wumpus> yes, in the case of cherry-pick
142 2018-11-06T07:42:02  <sipa> warren: please look at actual backports
143 2018-11-06T07:42:10  <sipa> and how backport releases are made
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145 2018-11-06T07:42:20  <wumpus> sipa was talking about a lack of *testing*
146 2018-11-06T07:42:43  <wumpus> with which I suppose he means actual human testing on platforms we dontwhich I agree is a real problem
147 2018-11-06T07:42:55  <sipa> yes, that's what i meant
148 2018-11-06T07:42:58  <wumpus> we don't CI on
149 2018-11-06T07:43:12  <sipa> there is little attention people give to backports
150 2018-11-06T07:43:32  <sipa> but on the other hand, few people use them too
151 2018-11-06T07:44:05  <warren> We're talking about stable point releases from a numbered tag like 0.17 right?
152 2018-11-06T07:45:05  <sipa> i'm talking about the creation of a 0.17.x at this point (after master is already merging for 0.18)
153 2018-11-06T07:45:07  <warren> was special in that it was only for Mac to install at all. But 0.17.1 with backports, as master contains merges not meant for a release so soon?
154 2018-11-06T07:45:27  <sipa> yes, was speci
155 2018-11-06T07:45:29  <sipa> al
156 2018-11-06T07:46:00  <sipa> though i suspect that 0.17.1 will actually get a reasonable amount of testing
157 2018-11-06T07:46:26  <sipa> things like a new 0.16.x release at this point would be hard to find much interest in
158 2018-11-06T07:48:51  <warren> Would it make sense for the branches like 0.17 to be "living" and "not a release" until it is tagged? It could go through its own rc's with people helping it through a process. The older branch like 0.16 could also be "not a release" and very rarely have commits except if somebody bothers to backport something critical, in which case it becomes easier for people who are stuck on old versions to patch things that will probably work but it
159 2018-11-06T07:48:51  <warren> not being tagged signifies it didn't go through any QA process.
160 2018-11-06T07:49:35  <gmaxwell> it's already like that.
161 2018-11-06T07:49:38  <warren> (I think I'm already describing the de facto.)
162 2018-11-06T07:49:55  <sipa> warren: please.
163 2018-11-06T07:50:37  <sipa> please actually look at how things work, and identify an.actual problem
164 2018-11-06T07:51:47  <sipa> (it's certainly the case that some of the process around backports can be improved, but randomly shouting suggestions isn't useful for anyone)
165 2018-11-06T07:52:42  <warren> Err, sorry if this seems like random shouting. I'm trying to help. I see the need for more attention toward review of the commits in the stable branches and testing. Released or not those branches will be used by real people. I will help.
166 2018-11-06T07:52:45  <wumpus> we have the rc phase for people to find problems such as that qt issue, it's surprising no one found it and reported it there
167 2018-11-06T07:53:13  <wumpus> this was in 0.17.0 right? that had quite a long rc phase
168 2018-11-06T07:53:34  <warren> I personally didn't notice the qt issue until I upgraded into an OS that had the affected version of qt. The Gitian binary didn't have that problem right?
169 2018-11-06T07:53:53  <gmaxwell> warren: this issue was in 0.17.0.
170 2018-11-06T07:54:43  <gmaxwell> AFAIK
171 2018-11-06T07:54:51  <warren> I'm checking
172 2018-11-06T07:54:55  <wumpus> so no one tested 0.17.0rcX self-built on that particular OS
173 2018-11-06T07:55:07  <warren> that OS wasn't released until very recently (in the case of Fedora 29)
174 2018-11-06T07:55:11  <wumpus> it must have been, changed nothing in regard to qt
175 2018-11-06T07:55:37  <wumpus> if so, how COULD we, or anyone, even have found that bug
176 2018-11-06T07:56:00  <wumpus> something breaks with yet-unreleased software
177 2018-11-06T07:56:14  <sipa> yet unreleased?
178 2018-11-06T07:56:48  <warren> Confirmed, the gitian binary had no problem because it had an older version of qt. I was testing pre-0.17 builds from master and the 0.17 branch on Fedora 28 so I didn't see the problem. I also tested the 0.17 gitian binaries.
179 2018-11-06T07:56:49  <wumpus> that's what warren suggests, taht F29 not out at that time
180 2018-11-06T07:57:09  <gmaxwell> obviously we should "Use Weapon" </arrival>
181 2018-11-06T07:57:12  <sipa> oh, F29 issue, not macos issue fixed in
182 2018-11-06T07:57:18  <wumpus> hehe
183 2018-11-06T07:57:50  <sipa> warren: in that case i don't think anyone is to blame; we can only test on existing platforms
184 2018-11-06T07:57:50  <wumpus> sipa: yes, sorry, was mixing them up though the mac issue would have been good to catch in rc too!
185 2018-11-06T07:58:10  <sipa> and we can also issue a to fix the f29 issue if serious enough
186 2018-11-06T07:58:20  <wumpus> sure
187 2018-11-06T07:58:56  <sipa> i don't think that's a test failure; just something unpredictable breaking things from under us
188 2018-11-06T07:59:59  <warren> I wouldn't bother to do another .0.x release, just put that tiny commit in the 0.17 branch for now. People who build from source can tolerate following a branch, while most people will probably use the gitian binary.
189 2018-11-06T08:00:44  <gmaxwell> warren: thats normally what happens for bugfixes which are not totally unimportant.
190 2018-11-06T08:01:17  <warren> How extensive will 0.17.1 be?
191 2018-11-06T08:01:49  <wumpus> warren: yes that should happen, do you have the PR# I'll do a backport PR
192 2018-11-06T08:02:10  <warren> wumpus: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14403
193 2018-11-06T08:02:39  <wumpus> thanks
194 2018-11-06T08:03:34  <gmaxwell> warren: point releases usually have a half dozen to a dozen fixes or so, depending on when they come out.
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198 2018-11-06T08:07:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #14666: qt: Revert "Force TLS1.0+ for SSL connections" (0.17...2018_11_qt_tls_crash_fix_0_17) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14666
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204 2018-11-06T08:17:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.17: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9e87d82e7f06...b0e88b89149f
205 2018-11-06T08:17:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.17 0242b5a Tim Ruffing: qt: Revert "Force TLS1.0+ for SSL connections"...
206 2018-11-06T08:17:18  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.17 b0e88b8 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14666: qt: Revert "Force TLS1.0+ for SSL connections" (0.17)...
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208 2018-11-06T08:17:41  <meshcollider> that was quick :D
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212 2018-11-06T08:25:20  <wumpus> very happy to see people caring about actually fixing bugs and not *insert a space at row 4 column 23 of doc/bla.md*
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214 2018-11-06T08:27:07  <meshcollider> heh yep
215 2018-11-06T08:27:19  <wumpus> luke-jr: need rebase for #14532, also other people: this PR addresses an important issue and still needs review
216 2018-11-06T08:27:22  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14532 | Never bind INADDR_ANY by default, and warn when doing so explicitly by luke-jr · Pull Request #14532 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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218 2018-11-06T08:29:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/825f779dc715f0f006ce0f196dc834355d2e0a5a
219 2018-11-06T08:29:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 825f779 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Add historical release notes for
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224 2018-11-06T08:44:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.17: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/1e49fe450dbb0c258776526dba3ee583461d42ff
225 2018-11-06T08:44:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.17 1e49fe4 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Clean out release notes after
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228 2018-11-06T08:48:21  <warren> luke-jr: "(A warning is given if rpcallowip is specified without rpcbind, since it doesn't really make sense to do.)"  ... might it be better to change it to refuse to start bitcoind after this change? People depending on the previous wrong behavior will more quickly notice bitcoind failing to start this way.
229 2018-11-06T08:49:18  <meshcollider> warren: it doesn't default to old behaviour though, the behaviour is still safe so they will notice if they were relying on it anyway
230 2018-11-06T08:49:33  <meshcollider> i.e., it still won't bind to INADDR_ANY
231 2018-11-06T08:53:05  <warren> meshcollider: the wrong behavior was rpcallowip without rpcbind, luke-jr argues
232 2018-11-06T08:53:48  <wumpus> I think things are ready now to start the process for a, though, I'm not convinced we should, because it only affects self-built executables on one fairly rare platform and doesn't affect the binaries nor anyone using the binaries, might be too much confusing as well as give a bad impression to do a lot of 0.x releases
233 2018-11-06T08:53:59  <warren> Not sure if this was ever written anywhere, but I personally always understood the RPC port was never meant to be exposed to the Internet.
234 2018-11-06T08:55:21  <warren> wumpus: I would call it rather an "currently rare but over time increasingly less so", but even then yes the static linked qt in the gitian binaries are not affected and we're better off getting 0.17.1 out the door.
235 2018-11-06T08:55:31  <wumpus> you're right, it's never supposed to-the problem is that a lot of people were apparently accidentally exposing it to the internet, might be partially because they set rpcallowip to a local-network address then suddenly expose it to the whole world, not doing automatic binding would prevent that
236 2018-11-06T08:56:01  <wumpus> I *wish* bitcoind had c-lightning's RPC, simply a UNIX socket that takes JSON-RPC commands, no HTTP, no binding
237 2018-11-06T08:56:09  <meshcollider> yeah IMO this doesn't warrant a because it doesn't affect that actual binaries
238 2018-11-06T08:56:14  <wumpus> meshcollider: right
239 2018-11-06T08:57:08  <gwillen> wumpus: the HTTP layer has been slightly maddening in talking to bitcoind RPC from Rust
240 2018-11-06T08:57:17  <wumpus> gwillen: I know :(
241 2018-11-06T08:57:20  <warren> Does c-lightning RPC work on Windows? (Why bother I know.)
242 2018-11-06T08:57:21  <gwillen> there are currently zero reasonable HTTP clients available
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244 2018-11-06T08:57:54  <gwillen> (for values of reasonable that include minimizing dependency bloat primarily)
245 2018-11-06T08:57:55  <wumpus> I don't think it supports windows, another good thing about it :-)
246 2018-11-06T08:58:28  <gwillen> well, you can take JSON-RPC commands over TCP from localhost as easily as over UNIX sockets, no HTTP required
247 2018-11-06T08:59:37  <wumpus> I'm joking there of course; https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/12/19/af_unix-comes-to-windows/
248 2018-11-06T09:00:03  <luke-jr> warren: It's not *entirely* nonsensical, though.
249 2018-11-06T09:01:33  <luke-jr> gwillen: dependencies are good, not bloat
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252 2018-11-06T09:02:19  <wumpus> not if it pulls in an apache-level huge web server just to handle a silly RPC client
253 2018-11-06T09:02:31  <warren> luke-jr: I too am in favor of infrastructure applications with webs of dependencies blindly grabbing from other developers.
254 2018-11-06T09:02:37  <luke-jr> wumpus: sure, but the topic was a HTTP client :P
255 2018-11-06T09:02:49  <luke-jr> eg, libcurl
256 2018-11-06T09:02:55  <wumpus> luke-jr: I'm just saying what the practical situation for Rust is
257 2018-11-06T09:03:07  <warren> libcurl is rather large and has a history of security issues too.
258 2018-11-06T09:03:18  <luke-jr> surely Rust can have bindings to reasonable C libraries?
259 2018-11-06T09:03:25  <luke-jr> warren: everything has security issues at some point
260 2018-11-06T09:03:46  <wumpus> using C at the network layer partially defeats the point of using RUst in the first place :-)
261 2018-11-06T09:03:48  <luke-jr> using a common dependency at least increases the probability it gets found and fixed quickly
262 2018-11-06T09:04:01  <wumpus> as warren says
263 2018-11-06T09:04:13  <wumpus> libcurl is not exactly bugless either
264 2018-11-06T09:04:34  <warren> You'd think a rust thing wanting something simple as socket communication you wouldn't want to pull in a massive library, rather you'd want to implement it in a safer language like rust, with as minimal as possible in code.
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266 2018-11-06T09:12:25  <wumpus> though, hardening against network exploits is much more important for something like the P2P network code than *what is supposed to be* a local control socket, but that has a much bigger scope, but some people are working on writing a Rust P2P layer too
267 2018-11-06T09:13:57  <wumpus> (dongcarl is looking at that)
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281 2018-11-06T10:48:57  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/825f779dc715...024816d6cfc7
282 2018-11-06T10:48:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5aa31f6 James O'Beirne: tests: add utility to assert node memory usage hasn't increased...
283 2018-11-06T10:48:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 62f94d3 James O'Beirne: tests: add P2PConnection.send_raw_message
284 2018-11-06T10:48:59  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d20a9fa James O'Beirne: tests: add tests for invalid P2P messages...
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290 2018-11-06T10:50:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14522: tests: add invalid P2P message tests (master...2018-10-invalid-msgs-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14522
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295 2018-11-06T10:59:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/024816d6cfc7...cdddd177809d
296 2018-11-06T10:59:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bbbbb3f MarcoFalke: qa: Add test to ensure node can generate all help texts at runtime
297 2018-11-06T10:59:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cdddd17 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14658: qa: Add test to ensure node can generate all rpc help texts at runtime...
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300 2018-11-06T11:00:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14658: qa: Add test to ensure node can generate all rpc help texts at runtime (master...Mf1811-qaRpcHelpMan) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14658
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303 2018-11-06T11:20:26  <promag> bugfix #14552 lgtm
304 2018-11-06T11:20:28  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14552 | wallet: detecting duplicate wallet by comparing the db filename. by ken2812221 · Pull Request #14552 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
305 2018-11-06T11:22:12  <meshcollider> sipa: are you here atm? quick question about descriptors, can addr() wrap an xpub? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14491#issuecomment-436218992
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340 2018-11-06T12:59:32  <setpill> trying to build bitcoin core in a bionic host with the gitian-build.py script, getting error `lxc-init: gitian: cmd/lxc_init.c: remove_self: 212 Invalid argument - Failed to unmount "/usr/sbin/init.lxc.static"`
341 2018-11-06T12:59:55  <setpill> is there a known workaround for this?
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343 2018-11-06T13:01:50  <wumpus> "if you forget to install libcap-dev before building lxc, lxc-execute is going to fail because an essential program init.lxc.static is not built"
344 2018-11-06T13:02:13  <wumpus> I had that problem once, maybe it's this, maybe it's a different one
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346 2018-11-06T13:03:34  <setpill> I'm not building lxc, just installing from repositories
347 2018-11-06T13:04:32  <wumpus> in that case, they might have made that mistake, in any case no clue
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349 2018-11-06T13:06:55  <wumpus> sooo many moving parts that can break, who's to say...
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358 2018-11-06T13:31:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sdaftuar closed pull request #14318: Relay ancestors of transactions (master...2018-09-txrelay-ancestors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14318
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379 2018-11-06T14:26:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #14667: Add deriveaddress RPC util method (master...2018/11/deriveaddress) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14667
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386 2018-11-06T14:37:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cdddd177809d...880bc728b43f
387 2018-11-06T14:37:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4fb789e Jim Posen: Extract CSipHasher to it's own file in crypto/ directory....
388 2018-11-06T14:37:06  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fef5adc Jim Posen: blockfilter: Use unordered_set instead of set in blockfilter.
389 2018-11-06T14:37:06  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 880bc72 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14074: Use std::unordered_set instead of set in blockfilter interface...
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393 2018-11-06T14:37:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14074: Use std::unordered_set instead of set in blockfilter interface (master...blockfilter-unordered-set) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14074
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399 2018-11-06T14:40:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Diving-Or-Dove-In opened pull request #14668: Update validation.cpp (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14668
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403 2018-11-06T14:50:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag closed pull request #13501: Correctly terminate HTTP server (master...2018-06-loopexit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13501
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409 2018-11-06T15:05:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #14670: http: Fix HTTP server shutdown (master...2018-11-httpserver) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14670
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411 2018-11-06T15:06:17  <promag> ken2812221: this is an alternative approach, if you could test I'd be so happy :D
412 2018-11-06T15:08:41  <jnewbery> promag: could you add an explanation of how the approach is different and why you closed 13501?
413 2018-11-06T15:09:04  <promag> jnewbery: I will
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419 2018-11-06T15:32:36  <promag> jnewbery: MarcoFalke: added rationale
420 2018-11-06T15:33:30  <promag> always had the feeling it shouldn't be complicate to terminate the server
421 2018-11-06T15:34:40  <promag> 2 important changes: 1) call evhttp_free with event loop running  2) send connection: close header when shutdown was requested
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425 2018-11-06T15:46:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/880bc728b43f...6af27b81572b
426 2018-11-06T15:46:20  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5a05aa2 Martin Erlandsson: Add metavar to match var name in help text + Change wording for better readability
427 2018-11-06T15:46:21  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6af27b8 MarcoFalke: Merge #14619: tests: Fix value display name in test_runner help text...
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429 2018-11-06T15:47:20  <jamesob> my just-merged p2p_invalid_messages test is failing pretty consistently on travis; looking into it
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432 2018-11-06T15:47:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14619: tests: Fix value display name in test_runner help text (master...test-runner-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14619
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434 2018-11-06T15:55:35  <hebasto> setpill: this is known bug; https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/2536
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449 2018-11-06T16:12:09  <dongcarl> luke-jr: I remember you asked about Rust bootstrapping: https://github.com/thepowersgang/mrustc
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452 2018-11-06T16:22:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14668: Update validation.cpp (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14668
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455 2018-11-06T16:22:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob opened pull request #14672: tests: Send fewer spam messages in p2p_invalid_messages (master...2018-11-msgs-test-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14672
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486 2018-11-06T18:03:04  <warren> dongcarl: he mentioned that earlier, it actually works now?
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493 2018-11-06T18:14:07  <warren> dongcarl: oh good it looks like devrandom has already been trying it
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518 2018-11-06T19:23:50  <hebasto> latest master build behaves like -disablewallet=1 always; what was changed? (linux, testnet)
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529 2018-11-06T19:37:50  <esotericnonsense> i've been spamming this around a bit, but again for anyone that cares, my node/mempool monitoring daemon is finally open source (it wasn't really 'deployment ready' previously, took a while to wrangle it in to shape)
530 2018-11-06T19:38:22  <esotericnonsense> https://gitlab.electronrelocation.com/esotericnonsense/bitcoin-top ; demo at https://bitcoin.electronrelocation.com
531 2018-11-06T19:39:00  <hebasto> my bad; master build is ok
532 2018-11-06T19:41:05  <esotericnonsense> i think that the defaults are sane; on initial setup it grabs some bytes from /dev/urandom for rpc passwords and so on (not exposed outside localhost anyway), and then I've limited remote RPC access for the proxy to a subset that I think are reasonable (there's a whitelist)
533 2018-11-06T19:41:38  <esotericnonsense> if it had an auth gate (and probably some sort of self-sanity-check to make sure it's on TLS/SSL) more stuff like wallet functionality, full debug console etc could be exposed
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542 2018-11-06T19:47:02  <dongcarl> warren: It doesn't like Arch Linux's OpenSSL version... Too new
543 2018-11-06T19:47:16  <dongcarl> But it built rustc just fine
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552 2018-11-06T20:16:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6af27b81572b...976583e10951
553 2018-11-06T20:16:34  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3d305e3 James O'Beirne: Send fewer spam messages in p2p_invalid_messages...
554 2018-11-06T20:16:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 976583e MarcoFalke: Merge #14672: tests: Send fewer spam messages in p2p_invalid_messages...
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557 2018-11-06T20:17:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14672: tests: Send fewer spam messages in p2p_invalid_messages (master...2018-11-msgs-test-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14672
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572 2018-11-06T20:59:27  <phantomcircuit> sdaftuar, any idea why it's not working on os x?
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579 2018-11-06T21:26:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #14673: travis: Fail the UBSan Travis build in case of newly introduced UBSan errors (master...ubsan-tweak) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14673
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593 2018-11-06T22:27:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/976583e10951...d864e45730be
594 2018-11-06T22:27:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fced6b5 practicalswift: Add UBSan options: print_stacktrace + halt_on_error
595 2018-11-06T22:27:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5c292da practicalswift: Add UBSan suppressions needed to pass test suite
596 2018-11-06T22:27:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4773fa8 practicalswift: Add llvm-symbolizer directory to PATH. Needed to get symbolized stack traces from the sanitizers.
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602 2018-11-06T22:28:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14673: travis: Fail the UBSan Travis build in case of newly introduced UBSan errors (master...ubsan-tweak) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14673
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