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  2 2019-03-13T00:06:06  <promag> it'd be nice to label all pulls that "fix something"
  3 2019-03-13T00:07:32  <promag> see pulls listed in #15575 description, only common label is "wallet"
  4 2019-03-13T00:07:34  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15575 | 0.17: Backport 15297 by promag · Pull Request #15575 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
  5 2019-03-13T00:08:35  <promag> add label or place them in some gh project
  6 2019-03-13T00:12:10  <fanquake> promag you keep adding new backports to that :p, the labels can't keep up
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  8 2019-03-13T00:14:38  <promag> what I mean is that, for instance, #11911 could have a "backport candidate" label or something like that
  9 2019-03-13T00:14:41  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11911 | Free BerkeleyEnvironment instances when not in use by ryanofsky · Pull Request #11911 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
 10 2019-03-13T00:15:16  <promag> it's not a new feature, it's kind of fix
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 50 2019-03-13T02:59:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15587: wallet: Remove GetLegacyBalance (master...1903-walletRemoveLegacyBal) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15587
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 53 2019-03-13T03:04:58  <gwillen> sipa: when you get a moment, can you explain to me a bit more about your most recent comment on #15508
 54 2019-03-13T03:05:00  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15508 | Refactor analyzepsbt for use outside RPC code by gwillen · Pull Request #15508 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 56 2019-03-13T03:06:07  <gwillen> i.e. specifically why it is that mempool code needs to care about potential insanely-signature-happy transactions, but we don't need to worry that we might have to deal with one here?
 57 2019-03-13T03:06:29  <gwillen> Is it that there is some reason one would not be possible, or just that such a transaction is so abusive that we never expect to see one in a non-adversarial context in practice?
 58 2019-03-13T03:09:44  <sipa> gwillen: in the mempool crazy things are possible, because they're constructed by third parties
 59 2019-03-13T03:10:18  <sipa> the size estimation code in analyzepsbt obviously only works for transactions that fully consist of inputs we at least understand
 60 2019-03-13T03:11:03  <sipa> those crazy sigoo-limited transactions are not we're able to sign for regardless
 61 2019-03-13T03:12:39  <gmaxwell> currently.
 62 2019-03-13T03:13:23  <sipa> gmaxwell: can you imagine any where that isn't the case?
 63 2019-03-13T03:14:01  <sipa> miniscript doesn't include anything where sigop cost would dominate either
 64 2019-03-13T03:15:13  <gmaxwell> for sigops cost to dominate there needs to be reused signatures?
 65 2019-03-13T03:15:56  <sipa> yes, by a factor 3x
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 67 2019-03-13T03:16:27  <sipa> and that is ignoring pubkey sizes
 68 2019-03-13T03:17:12  <gmaxwell> okay, then no, I don't.
 69 2019-03-13T03:17:23  <gmaxwell> (sorry, the currently was a thoughtless comment)
 70 2019-03-13T03:18:06  <gmaxwell> and I hope in the future any sigops limits we do are just achieved via weight adjustment... (or at worst per txin limits...)
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 72 2019-03-13T03:19:02  <sipa> gmaxwell: weight adjustment is painful, as it means you can't compute weight without knowing utxos being spent
 73 2019-03-13T03:19:37  <sipa> but otherwise i agree, i hope that going forward we can get rid of the two distinct resource limits
 74 2019-03-13T03:23:52  <gmaxwell> sipa: with segwit you don't need to know the utxo, redeemscript is present in the transaction itself, always.
 75 2019-03-13T03:24:13  <gmaxwell> though perhaps we sould make the version explicit in the transaction itself in future script versions!
 76 2019-03-13T03:24:17  <gmaxwell> (for this reason!)
 77 2019-03-13T03:24:33  <MarcoFalke> promag: fanquake: The gitian build takes about 12h for master and about 12h per pull (if it is in the same loop run). So the worst case for two pulls (assuming two loops are run for two pulls, because for example the second pull was labelled after the first one started) is 48 hours wait time.
 78 2019-03-13T03:25:20  <sipa> gmaxwell: but you can't know from the spending tx what segwit version it is
 79 2019-03-13T03:25:37  <sipa> say, there could be a p2wpkh spend that looks like a p2wsh
 80 2019-03-13T03:25:52  <sipa> and with future witness versions this may become even harder
 81 2019-03-13T03:25:52  <gmaxwell> we could fix that in future versions.
 82 2019-03-13T03:26:02  <sipa> i don't think so
 83 2019-03-13T03:26:35  <fanquake> MarcoFalke thanks
 84 2019-03-13T03:26:43  <gmaxwell> luke-jr solve this problem for us.
 85 2019-03-13T03:27:01  <gmaxwell> :P
 86 2019-03-13T03:27:13  * sipa likes a rule that the sigop cost of a spend can't exceed its witness size
 87 2019-03-13T03:27:24  <gmaxwell> We could fix it with a softfork that makes some classes of otherwise valid v1 scripts invalid.
 88 2019-03-13T03:27:48  <gmaxwell> sipa: the idea of data stuffing (or never being able to have expensive opcodes) makes me sad.
 89 2019-03-13T03:28:02  <gmaxwell> Esp with taproot where many features can mostly exist as threats more than reality.
 90 2019-03-13T03:28:25  <gmaxwell> It would be reasonable to have absurdly expensive opcodes (e.g. like pairings), which are virtually never executed.
 91 2019-03-13T03:28:57  <sipa> yeah, when there are opcodes that have a (much) higher cpu cost per byte than things we currently have, that approach isn't viable
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 93 2019-03-13T03:29:47  <gmaxwell> I dunno if pairings are there yet, but its at least plausable to me that they are.
 94 2019-03-13T03:30:17  <gmaxwell> certantly if we use checksig as the standard of acceptable cpu/byte they are.
 95 2019-03-13T03:30:30  <gmaxwell> as they're >10x worse.
 96 2019-03-13T03:32:34  <gwillen> sipa: ok thanks that makes sense to me
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 98 2019-03-13T03:33:54  <sipa> gmaxwell: p2p/storage update that RLE encodes big zeroes in witness elements; then have a rule that every OP_PAIRING must be followed by a push of 100 zero bytes :)
 99 2019-03-13T03:35:22  <gwillen> at that point you've pretty much turned it into size plus ops, you could just make the representation of each opcode equal in size to its op cost ;-)
100 2019-03-13T03:35:29  <gmaxwell> this did occure to me, but unlike you I had the good taste to not mention it. :P
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104 2019-03-13T03:44:46  <fanquake> MarcoFalke what is the meaning of the egg
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106 2019-03-13T03:52:01  <echeveria> be thankful we can validate unconfirmed transactions at all
107 2019-03-13T03:52:13  <echeveria> in ethereum you can't validate transactions really until they're in a block.
108 2019-03-13T03:53:50  <gmaxwell> it's not an accident...
109 2019-03-13T03:54:18  <gmaxwell> like, we've shot down and reformed proposals that make that harder.
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123 2019-03-13T05:14:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #15588: Log the actual wallet file version and no longer publicly expose the "version" record (master...rm-wallet-nfileversion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15588
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131 2019-03-13T06:03:55  <fanquake> dongcarl what are you doing your testing with guix on? I've been running 0.16.0 with QEMU on macOS
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134 2019-03-13T06:04:23  <fanquake> Currently looking at setting up a alpine/guix docker container for building etc.
135 2019-03-13T06:10:13  <dongcarl> fanquake: I’ve been doing it on my Arch machine... I haven’t tested nested containers yet unfortunately but you should give it a go and see if it works
136 2019-03-13T06:10:59  <dongcarl> Your normal OS is macOS I presume?
137 2019-03-13T06:11:09  <fanquake> Yea, running 10.14.x at the moment
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159 2019-03-13T07:33:04  <wumpus> promag: it'd be nice to label all pulls that "fix something" -> this is what the "bug" label is for, in principle
160 2019-03-13T07:33:28  <wumpus> I don't think PRs get labeled with that in practice, but it was the idea
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162 2019-03-13T07:34:00  <wumpus> but I fully agree it would be useful when you want to wade through the zillions refactoring PRs and find those that actually solve problems
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166 2019-03-13T07:53:45  <aj> wumpus: maybe rename the label to "bugfix" then?
167 2019-03-13T07:54:37  <wumpus> bahh
168 2019-03-13T07:55:12  <wumpus> I mean, that would work less well for issues, but I don't think discussing names is very useful in any case
169 2019-03-13T07:57:43  <aj> wumpus: *shrug* it just never would've occurred to me to search PR's for label:bug
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172 2019-03-13T08:13:18  <kallewoof> alternatively, we tag up the refactor PRs and you do "-label:refactor"
173 2019-03-13T08:14:08  <kallewoof> i.e. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+-label%3ARefactoring+
174 2019-03-13T08:16:58  <kallewoof> that could probably use an additional "is:pr"..
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176 2019-03-13T08:22:43  <wumpus> but that gets features/documentation and all other categories as well, but ok good point
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184 2019-03-13T09:33:16  <luke-jr> [03:24:13] <gmaxwell> though perhaps we sould make the version explicit in the transaction itself in future script versions! <-- like the witness v1 draft I did in ~2017? :P
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186 2019-03-13T09:36:21  <luke-jr> (although I came away from that thinking it needed a substantial redesign)
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189 2019-03-13T09:37:47  <dta_> chat
190 2019-03-13T09:37:56  <dta_> bip16?
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195 2019-03-13T09:40:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors closed pull request #15567: Make OutputType consistent with Descriptor and return it (master...2019/03/descriptor-output-type) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15567
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197 2019-03-13T09:41:22  <newbie2019258_> Hi guys, I got error message when I tried to use the /share/rpcauthrpcauth.py ANY help please?
198 2019-03-13T09:43:37  <wumpus> which error message ?
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200 2019-03-13T09:46:37  <newbie2019258_> python ./rpcauth.py berlin2019RpcUser --->   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/hmac.py", line 50, in <lambda>     self.digest_cons = lambda d='': digestmod.new(d) AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'new'
201 2019-03-13T09:47:53  <wumpus> try 'python3' instead of 'python'
202 2019-03-13T09:53:09  <newbie2019258_> YES! Perfect, thank you, working!!!
203 2019-03-13T09:53:42  <wumpus> great!
204 2019-03-13T09:54:12  <wumpus> to ask, was there any documentation that you followed that made you use 'python'?
205 2019-03-13T09:54:46  <wumpus> if so that needs to be corrected
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207 2019-03-13T10:06:48  <newbie2019258_> I searched a lot of on the web. But unfortunately I don't fund any "normal" documentation about this.
208 2019-03-13T10:08:50  <newbie2019258_> Example: This topic also "unanswered" ---> https://bitcointalk.to/index.php?topic=4946696.0
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211 2019-03-13T10:13:02  <wumpus> i think the best place to search for or ask usage questions is the bitcoin stack overflow (https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/)
212 2019-03-13T10:16:01  <wumpus> the script is prefixed with "#!/usr/bin/env python3" so it should find the correct python interpreter if you execute the script without specifying one
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214 2019-03-13T10:18:31  <newbie2019258_> Yes, thank you, unfortunately I missed to check the shebang of the script.
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216 2019-03-13T10:20:14  <Sentineo> is verify-commits.py broken? It jus returns "origin/master was not signed with a trusted key!". Not saying which key is to blame.
217 2019-03-13T10:23:29  <newbie2019258_> One more question please: After I added the rpcauth=... line into the config file (bitcoin.conf) how to need activate/accept, I mean maybe need to reload some service(s) or something like that? (I want to use the PHP wrapper to manage bitcoind over RPC)
218 2019-03-13T10:25:05  <wumpus> Sentineo: gpg --refresh-keys might help
219 2019-03-13T10:28:04  <wumpus> Sentineo: oh, it's broken here too
220 2019-03-13T10:29:06  <wumpus> sipa's key 0xAC6626172E00A82CFFAE8972A636E97631F767E0 has expired and trying to refresh it gives me "gpg: keyserver refresh failed: No data"  :shrug:
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222 2019-03-13T10:37:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #15589: lint: Teach lint-whitespace.sh to detect missing newline at end of file (master...lint-newline-at-eof) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15589
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224 2019-03-13T10:40:51  <wumpus> oh no more linting PRs
225 2019-03-13T10:41:10  <wumpus> can we stop doing that please ... :(
226 2019-03-13T10:45:21  <gmaxwell> might be a better use of time to tell people how to set color.diff.whitespace in their local git configs.
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228 2019-03-13T10:46:26  <wumpus> I don't care about EOL at the end of files and other micro-aesthetic obsessions
229 2019-03-13T10:47:03  <wumpus> this is getting out of hand, has been for a while, maybe it's time to set a requirement that every PR fixes a reported problem
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231 2019-03-13T10:47:40  <gmaxwell> \O/
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234 2019-03-13T11:03:12  <Sentineo> is verify-commits.py broken? It jus returns "origin/master was not signed with a trusted key!". Not saying which key is to blame.
235 2019-03-13T11:03:40  <luke-jr> gmaxwell: isn't color.diff.whitespace the default?
236 2019-03-13T11:03:40  <Sentineo> hm sorry for pasting it again, exidentaly
237 2019-03-13T11:03:43  <wumpus> Sentineo you're repeating yourself
238 2019-03-13T11:03:49  <wumpus> ohh okay
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240 2019-03-13T11:03:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #15589: tests: Teach lint-whitespace.sh to detect missing newline at end of file (master...lint-newline-at-eof) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15589
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245 2019-03-13T11:18:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c3b1cb958f7c...8e1704c01537
246 2019-03-13T11:18:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a4d0fd0 fanquake: doc: correct analysepsbt rpc doc
247 2019-03-13T11:18:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 335931d fanquake: rpc: return a number for estimated_feerate in analyzepsbt
248 2019-03-13T11:18:54  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8e1704c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15559: doc: correct analyzepsbt rpc doc
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251 2019-03-13T11:19:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15559: doc: correct analyzepsbt rpc doc (master...fixup-analysepsbt-rpc-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15559
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254 2019-03-13T11:20:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to 0.18: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/021a9ad6f19b...2edd0c40c34b
255 2019-03-13T11:20:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 20fd64f fanquake: doc: correct analysepsbt rpc doc
256 2019-03-13T11:20:45  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 2edd0c4 fanquake: rpc: return a number for estimated_feerate in analyzepsbt
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259 2019-03-13T12:04:14  <wumpus> re: #15583 yes I feel really strongly about not ignoring errors, it has given me so much pain...
260 2019-03-13T12:04:15  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15583 | wallet: Ignore recursive_directory_iterator errors in ListWalletDir by promag · Pull Request #15583 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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266 2019-03-13T12:19:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #15590: Descriptor: add GetAddressType() -> base58 / bech32 (master...2019/03/descriptor-address-type) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15590
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273 2019-03-13T13:12:18  <dongcarl> fanquake: it would seem that all you need is docker --privileged to be able to nest. Lemme know if you encounter any problems.
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275 2019-03-13T13:13:09  <fanquake> dongcarl Thanks, I've seen similar in some mailing list discussions. I don't think it should be too hard to get setup.
276 2019-03-13T13:13:21  <dongcarl> If you’re trying it out for the first time, I’d suggest using the install script and enabling binary downloads for packages. Otherwise you’ll be building the whole world from scratch
277 2019-03-13T13:14:02  <fanquake> :o
278 2019-03-13T13:16:49  <dongcarl> Haha yeah, very desirable for bootstrappability, but somewhat less so if you’re just trying things out haha
279 2019-03-13T13:17:05  <dongcarl> You’ll be prompted for it when you run the install script I believe
280 2019-03-13T13:17:23  <fanquake> Yea no worries, I'll keep a look out
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290 2019-03-13T14:39:55  <promag> ryanofsky: I'm checking removing read access etc on walletdir and on each wallet file
291 2019-03-13T14:40:46  <promag> ryanofsky: I don't think it results in an infinite loop
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300 2019-03-13T15:11:46  <MarcoFalke> Sentineo: It seems so. Please file an issue about that
301 2019-03-13T15:16:48  <MarcoFalke> Interesting that it took so long for someone to find out
302 2019-03-13T15:17:29  <MarcoFalke> Or instead of filing an issue, ping sipa to upload his unexpired key
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304 2019-03-13T15:27:08  <MarcoFalke> hmm sub   4096R/C4EB3A28 2017-02-27 [expires: 2022-02-26]
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306 2019-03-13T15:29:49  <MarcoFalke> ugh, gpg hides expired keys
307 2019-03-13T15:31:21  <MarcoFalke> gpg --list-options show-unusable-subkeys --list-key --fingerprint --fingerprint 4E669320
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310 2019-03-13T15:32:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] pajasevi opened pull request #15594: Changed Czech translation of the word "blockchain" (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15594
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323 2019-03-13T16:44:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag closed pull request #14826: Avoid expanding descriptor scriptPubKeys (master...2018-11-faster-descriptor-expand) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14826
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340 2019-03-13T17:42:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #15594: Changed Czech translation of the word "blockchain" (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15594
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346 2019-03-13T18:02:03  <wumpus> ahhh I hate gpg, no one understands it
347 2019-03-13T18:02:12  <wumpus> (re #15592)
348 2019-03-13T18:02:13  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15592 | Bitcoin signing key by @laanwj expired on 2019-02-14 · Issue #15592 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
349 2019-03-13T18:02:55  <wumpus> and the tons of mails I got about it
350 2019-03-13T18:03:05  <wumpus> really, just retire the thing
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352 2019-03-13T18:05:12  <wumpus> I guess the whole expiration date thing is non-obvious but that's not my fault, I 'm only using the software, I don't deserve this
353 2019-03-13T18:08:09  <sipa> wumpus: some people will always be confused
354 2019-03-13T18:08:44  <luke-jr> I think someone needs to write an article going over how to use GPG
355 2019-03-13T18:09:02  <luke-jr> it's a pain, though, because it needs to be just right :x
356 2019-03-13T18:09:22  <wumpus> sipa: I don't really blame the people that are confused
357 2019-03-13T18:11:54  <wumpus> luke-jr: we first have to find someone that is not confused about gpg to write it though
358 2019-03-13T18:12:15  <wumpus> :-)
359 2019-03-13T18:12:53  <luke-jr> the hard part is key verification :P
360 2019-03-13T18:13:08  <wumpus> yes
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362 2019-03-13T18:21:39  <MarcoFalke> wumpus: Mind to backport #15582, so it doesn't miss rc2?
363 2019-03-13T18:21:41  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15582 | Fix overflow bug in analyzepsbt fee: CAmount instead of int by sipa · Pull Request #15582 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
364 2019-03-13T18:23:00  <MarcoFalke> Should be a clean cherry-pick. I can backport it as well, but I would have to create a pull for it. Not sure if you prefer that
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368 2019-03-13T18:36:12  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: sure
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372 2019-03-13T18:37:12  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 commit to 0.18: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2edd0c40c34b...232ef630ecd3
373 2019-03-13T18:37:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 232ef63 Pieter Wuille: Fix overflow bug in analyzepsbt fee: CAmount instead of int
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391 2019-03-13T19:33:01  <wumpus> rc2 tomorrow after the meeting?
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395 2019-03-13T19:41:41  <MarcoFalke> I'd say so
396 2019-03-13T19:44:17  <gmaxwell> Why not now? :P
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401 2019-03-13T19:55:26  <jonasschnelli> Any idea why Draht reports conflicts multiple times? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14032#issuecomment-471980504
402 2019-03-13T19:55:30  <jonasschnelli> Maybe MarcoFalke
403 2019-03-13T19:56:33  <MarcoFalke> Sorry, thats a bug
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405 2019-03-13T19:59:40  <jonasschnelli> No worries and thanks for fixing MarcoFalke
406 2019-03-13T20:04:24  <MarcoFalke> What is the git repo again that mirrors all bitcoin core github comments?
407 2019-03-13T20:11:38  <echeveria> https://www.gharchive.org/
408 2019-03-13T20:14:01  <echeveria> eg, curl -s http://data.gharchive.org/2015-01-01-{1..31}.json.gz | zgrep "github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin"
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410 2019-03-13T20:18:45  <wumpus> gmaxwell: there's still #15583 tagged
411 2019-03-13T20:18:47  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15583 | wallet: Log errors in ListWalletDir and IsBerkeleyBtree by promag · Pull Request #15583 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
412 2019-03-13T20:19:03  <wumpus> otherwise, yeah I agree
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414 2019-03-13T20:21:14  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: https://github.com/zw/bitcoin-gh-meta.git is what I used but it seems it hasn't been updated in a while :(
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427 2019-03-13T20:45:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15595: rpc: Actually use sendmany::minconf (master...1903-rpcWalletDummySendmany) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15595
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431 2019-03-13T20:51:08  <MarcoFalke> ^ not for 0.18.0 imo
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469 2019-03-13T22:26:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15596: rpc: Ignore sendmany::minconf as dummy value (master...1903-rpcWalletDummySendmany_2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15596
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473 2019-03-13T22:32:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #15595: rpc: Actually use sendmany::minconf (master...1903-rpcWalletDummySendmany) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15595
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476 2019-03-13T22:33:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #15587: wallet: Remove GetLegacyBalance (master...1903-walletRemoveLegacyBal) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15587
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