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1142019-05-09T09:19:48  <booyah> perhaps tests should be run few times, for normal build, for ASAN, for UBSAN+TSAN
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1242019-05-09T09:53:16  <gmaxwell> sipa: fun fact, buggy cpus exist where rdrand actually returns an error https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/11810#issuecomment-490165413  (also fun fact, systemd apparently iplements is own 'rng' call that uses rdrand only when available, and is caused to fail by this)
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1352019-05-09T10:22:32  <wumpus> this was just a matter of time, using RDRAND only always was a bad idea
1362019-05-09T10:24:28  <wumpus> good for them the chip start returnsing an error instead of just predictable data
1372019-05-09T10:24:53  <wumpus> that would have been a much more subtle and hard to detect scenario
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1422019-05-09T10:29:27  <gmaxwell> yeah, it  returns an error, but most code doesn't check.
1432019-05-09T10:30:05  <gmaxwell> We recently added checks for the error condition because I went and read the intel docs, previously the code was just modeled after code sipa read elsewhere.  (for our use, it's less critical to do any error handling)
1442019-05-09T10:31:28  <wumpus> right, failing to check is a less serious issue if it's only one of many randomness sources used, although you'd still want to detect "all random sources failed"
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1462019-05-09T10:34:28  <gmaxwell> unfortunately some sources are "cannot ever fail" which of course means there is no way to tell if they failed. :P
1472019-05-09T10:34:35  <wumpus> https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2014/01/13/rdrand-do-i-need-to-check-the-carry-flag-or-can-i-just-check-for-zero  this makes my head hurt, apparently early RDRAND implementations could not return 0 as an actual random value
1482019-05-09T10:35:22  <gmaxwell> yep.
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1502019-05-09T10:35:47  <gmaxwell> which is obnoxious when you really want actually uniform randomness, not close but no cigar uniformity.
1512019-05-09T10:35:49  <wumpus> at least it's 64 bit so a value of 0 is *very* unlikely, this is much worse for 32 bit APIs (where I've seen this too), but it's a stupid kind of bias
1522019-05-09T10:36:25  <wumpus> yes
1532019-05-09T10:40:00  <gmaxwell> the stm32 stuff seemed moderately concerning to me. (stuff in the trezor)
1542019-05-09T10:41:37  <gmaxwell> with weird rules about not using the first value out, and strange comments refreencing a LFSR...
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1562019-05-09T10:44:35  <wumpus> ouch
1572019-05-09T10:49:27  <wumpus> you can generally trust hardware vendors to do the cheapest thing possible that they can get away with for ancillary functions like hw rng, in any case it's a black box, the most surprising thing is a way-too-common assumption "it's hardware randomness so it must be good!"
1582019-05-09T10:52:38  <wumpus> having some unlocked PLL feed into a LFSR sounds like a nice and cheap solution to get some random-ish output
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1642019-05-09T11:30:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #15988: Add test for ArgsManager::GetChainName (master...pr/testset2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15988
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1692019-05-09T11:57:34  <fanquake> hey wumpus. 15766, 15794 & 15452 probably mergable
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1992019-05-09T14:16:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #15989: RPC: Do not use cookie auth if -rpcauth set (master...20190509-rpcauth) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15989
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2042019-05-09T14:35:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15990: Add tests and documentation for blocksonly (master...1905-docTestBlocksOnly) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15990
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2202019-05-09T15:30:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/08788ce1701a...a65fd92f7b8e
2212019-05-09T15:30:20  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master beda0da Hennadii Stepanov: Upgrade gitian image before signing
2222019-05-09T15:30:20  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a65fd92 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15766: scripts and tools: Upgrade gitian image before signing
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2252019-05-09T15:31:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15766: scripts and tools: Upgrade gitian image before signing (master...20190407-gitian-upgrade-image) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15766
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2312019-05-09T15:38:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #15991: Bugfix: fix pruneblockchain returned prune height (master...2019/05/pruning_test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15991
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2362019-05-09T16:04:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a65fd92f7b8e...aebe990dfeb4
2372019-05-09T16:04:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f4a230b Carl Dong: docs: Clarify PR guidelines w/re documentation
2382019-05-09T16:04:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aebe990 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15794: docs: Clarify PR guidelines w/re documentation
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2412019-05-09T16:05:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15794: docs: Clarify PR guidelines w/re documentation (master...2019-04-doc-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15794
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2482019-05-09T16:27:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact opened pull request #15992: Refactor  (master...relay-inventory) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15992
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2532019-05-09T16:41:34  <hebasto> promag: hi, could you elaborate your latest comment in #15684?
2542019-05-09T16:41:36  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15684 | doc/dependencies: Fix typo libsrvg->librsvg by luke-jr · Pull Request #15684 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2552019-05-09T16:42:48  <hebasto> The main purpose of GetDataDir() is to create the datadir, right?
2562019-05-09T16:43:44  <hebasto> promag: #15864 not 15684
2572019-05-09T16:43:47  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15864 | Fix datadir handling by hebasto · Pull Request #15864 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2592019-05-09T16:49:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #15993: net: Drop the ancient miniUPnPc API version support  (master...20190506-drop-ancient-miniupnpc-api) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15993
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2642019-05-09T16:55:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/aebe990dfeb4...de5af41e3567
2652019-05-09T16:55:29  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 70946e7 Gregory Sanders: Replace CScriptID and CKeyID in CTxDestination with dedicated types
2662019-05-09T16:55:29  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 78e407a Gregory Sanders: GetKeyBirthTimes should return key ids, not destinations
2672019-05-09T16:55:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master de5af41 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15452: Replace CScriptID and CKeyID in CTxDestination with dedicate...
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2702019-05-09T16:55:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15452: Replace CScriptID and CKeyID in CTxDestination with dedicated types (master...key_script_dest) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15452
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2912019-05-09T18:14:44  <harding> sipa: will OP_CLTV and OP_CSV still require OP_DROP in tapscript?  If so, it seems a tiny bit unfair counting that as two opcodes towards the opcode limit (although that seems like a very minor unfairness).
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2992019-05-09T18:34:44  <sipa> harding: yes
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3052019-05-09T18:56:01  <moneyball> wumpus: fyi one topic was proposed the past week ... topic proposed by MarcoFalke: windows 32 bit
3062019-05-09T18:57:18  <wumpus> ok
3072019-05-09T18:57:20  <wumpus> thanks !
3082019-05-09T18:57:56  <sipa> harding: there are many 'unfair' things in the scripting language i'm sure and nits to improve, but i fear a bikeshedding fest if we go into those
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3122019-05-09T19:01:18  <wumpus> #startmeeting
3132019-05-09T19:01:18  <lightningbot> Meeting started Thu May  9 19:01:18 2019 UTC.  The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
3142019-05-09T19:01:18  <lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
3152019-05-09T19:01:52  <jonasschnelli> hi
3162019-05-09T19:02:02  <sipa> hi
3172019-05-09T19:02:14  <achow101> hi
3182019-05-09T19:02:20  <luke-jr> hello there
3192019-05-09T19:02:22  <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb moneyball kvaciral
3202019-05-09T19:02:29  <Chris_Stewart_5> hello
3212019-05-09T19:02:39  <meshcollider> hi
3222019-05-09T19:03:37  <wumpus> any proposed topics?
3232019-05-09T19:03:45  <wumpus> (besides moneyball's)
3242019-05-09T19:03:54  <MarcoFalke> hi
3252019-05-09T19:03:55  <luke-jr> MarcoFalke's*
3262019-05-09T19:04:15  <kanzure> hi
3272019-05-09T19:04:19  <kanzure> i have a small topic later about topics
3282019-05-09T19:04:31  <luke-jr> ._.
3292019-05-09T19:04:49  <kanzure> it's just topic collection for upcoming physical meeting.
3302019-05-09T19:04:57  <wumpus> #topic high priority for review
3312019-05-09T19:05:37  <wumpus> currently: #15427 #15024 #15006 #15512 #15870
3322019-05-09T19:05:39  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15427 | Add support for descriptors to utxoupdatepsbt by sipa · Pull Request #15427 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3332019-05-09T19:05:42  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15024 | Allow specific private keys to be derived from descriptor by meshcollider · Pull Request #15024 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3342019-05-09T19:05:44  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15512 | Add ChaCha20 encryption option (XOR) by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #15512 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3352019-05-09T19:05:49  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15006 | Add option to create an encrypted wallet by achow101 · Pull Request #15006 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3362019-05-09T19:05:51  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15870 | wallet: Only fail rescan when blocks have actually been pruned by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #15870 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3372019-05-09T19:06:05  <wumpus> anything to add/remove/remark?
3382019-05-09T19:06:06  <instagibbs> hi
3392019-05-09T19:06:43  <sipa> looks good to me, i'll try to go through those soon
3402019-05-09T19:06:58  <wumpus> thanks
3412019-05-09T19:08:19  <wumpus> that's all about this topic, I guess
3422019-05-09T19:08:27  <wumpus> please help review those ^^
3432019-05-09T19:08:49  <wumpus> #topic windows 32 bit (MarcoFalke)
3442019-05-09T19:09:13  <MarcoFalke> There has been at least one user who is running Bitcoin Core on windows 32 bit
3452019-05-09T19:09:16  <wumpus> #15939
3462019-05-09T19:09:19  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15939 | gitian: Remove Windows 32 bit build by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #15939 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3472019-05-09T19:09:36  <MarcoFalke> I didn't expect that initially
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3492019-05-09T19:09:43  <wumpus> I've said what I wanted to say here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15939#issuecomment-489568065
3502019-05-09T19:09:46  <luke-jr> MarcoFalke: does Windows still support 32-bit only?
3512019-05-09T19:10:04  <MarcoFalke> Windows 10 can be installed as 32 bit
3522019-05-09T19:10:42  <luke-jr> on 32-bit only CPUs?
3532019-05-09T19:10:43  <wumpus> e.g. there's good reason to only support MacOS and Windows on one architecture
3542019-05-09T19:11:08  <jonasschnelli> Yes
3552019-05-09T19:11:17  <MarcoFalke> So we ask users to upgrade their windows to 64 bit or buy new hardware?
3562019-05-09T19:11:24  <jonasschnelli> Also,... do we care about that "one" user?
3572019-05-09T19:11:30  <wumpus> that there's one windows 32 user left, well, I'm sorry for them :(
3582019-05-09T19:11:41  <MarcoFalke> A lot might be shy to report
3592019-05-09T19:12:05  <wumpus> come on, the last x86 hardware that didn't support 64 bit is from 2005 or so?
3602019-05-09T19:12:33  <wumpus> you can buy a raspberry pi 3 for <$100 and have faster hardware
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3622019-05-09T19:12:55  <wumpus> and 64 bit ARM, at that
3632019-05-09T19:13:05  <MarcoFalke> Yeah
3642019-05-09T19:13:10  <wumpus> so, yeah, let's drop it
3652019-05-09T19:13:14  <booyah> why not support, is it about resources to gitian build?
3662019-05-09T19:13:19  <MarcoFalke> Enough for this topic
3672019-05-09T19:13:22  <wumpus> no, read my post
3682019-05-09T19:13:23  <MarcoFalke> booyah: No, testing
3692019-05-09T19:13:37  <wumpus> computer resources don't matter
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3712019-05-09T19:13:50  <sipa> in 2011 apparently the last general computing intel cpu that was 32-bit only was introduced (some atom)
3722019-05-09T19:14:14  <wumpus> yes... so.. next topic
3732019-05-09T19:14:19  <luke-jr> booyah: the question at the end of the day is, if there's a problem, is anyone willing to deal with it?
3742019-05-09T19:14:33  <MarcoFalke> [15:04] <kanzure> i have a small topic later about topics
3752019-05-09T19:14:45  <wumpus> #topic a topic about topics (kanzure)
3762019-05-09T19:14:47  <achow101> there was at least one complaint about win32 support on bitcointalk.
3772019-05-09T19:14:49  <ryanofsky> are there 32 bit versions of windows running on 64 bit hardware that can now no longer run bitccoin?
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3812019-05-09T19:15:33  <MarcoFalke> achow101: Link?
3822019-05-09T19:15:46  <luke-jr> if anyone is willing to support Win32, we should keep supporting it; if not, we can't realistically :p
3832019-05-09T19:15:54  <meshcollider> Presumably there'd be at least a few out there
3842019-05-09T19:16:28  <achow101> MarcoFalke: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139689.0 although I'm not sure whether the OP is just wondering why there is no win32 or whether they need win32
3852019-05-09T19:16:38  <wumpus> so the question is: is anyone willing to test and support windows 32, an debug problems that happen on it?
3862019-05-09T19:16:39  <ryanofsky> ok just responding to sipa's note about 2011 hardware, wondering if the last 32 bit windows was also released around that time or if it would matter
3872019-05-09T19:16:58  <wumpus> if no, it doesn't matter that 1 or 2 people are still using it
3882019-05-09T19:17:05  <luke-jr> I suppose there's a side question of: does testing Win32 identify any general code issues that other tests don't?
3892019-05-09T19:17:07  <ryanofsky> ok happy to move on
3902019-05-09T19:17:09  <achow101> ryanofsky: windows still makes 32 bit releases. you can download windows 10 32 bit
3912019-05-09T19:17:16  <wumpus> yes, let's move on
3922019-05-09T19:17:19  <wumpus> kanzure: you had a topic?
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3942019-05-09T19:18:10  <wumpus> luke-jr: not more than ARM or Linux x86 32 identifies
3952019-05-09T19:19:40  <sipa> arguably win64 should catch more things (it's the only 64 bit platform where a 'long' is 32 bits)
3962019-05-09T19:20:53  <sipa> kanzure: ^
3972019-05-09T19:21:13  <luke-jr> I think he just wanted to solicit topics for Amsterdam
3982019-05-09T19:21:35  <MarcoFalke> close meeting?
3992019-05-09T19:21:46  <wumpus> #endmeeting
4002019-05-09T19:21:46  <lightningbot> Meeting ended Thu May  9 19:21:46 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
4012019-05-09T19:21:46  <lightningbot> Minutes:        http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2019/bitcoin-core-dev.2019-05-09-19.01.html
4022019-05-09T19:21:46  <lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2019/bitcoin-core-dev.2019-05-09-19.01.txt
4032019-05-09T19:21:46  <lightningbot> Log:            http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2019/bitcoin-core-dev.2019-05-09-19.01.log.html
4042019-05-09T19:21:49  <sipa> let's assume he does, so #action: send topics for Amsterdam to kanzure
4052019-05-09T19:21:58  <sipa> i like these short meetings
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4072019-05-09T19:22:45  <gwillen> so in principle, people still on 32-bit windows could build it htemselves, right?
4082019-05-09T19:22:50  <gwillen> (except it's probably a big pain in the ass)
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4102019-05-09T19:22:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/de5af41e3567...79046d574980
4112019-05-09T19:22:52  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faf666f MarcoFalke: Remove Windows 32 bit build
4122019-05-09T19:22:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa193dc MarcoFalke: doc: Remove win32 from the release process
4132019-05-09T19:22:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 79046d5 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15939: gitian: Remove Windows 32 bit build
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4152019-05-09T19:23:05  <wumpus> gwillen: maybe? does MSVC still support 32 bit?
4162019-05-09T19:23:25  <MarcoFalke> msvc is only for debug builds
4172019-05-09T19:23:28  <gwillen> well, if they're on a 32-bit platform they probably have an old MSVC to go with it
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4192019-05-09T19:23:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15939: gitian: Remove Windows 32 bit build (master...1904-GitianWin) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15939
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4222019-05-09T19:24:53  <kanzure> sipa: yeah that's all it was, i thought it didn't need explanation :)
4232019-05-09T19:25:56  <wumpus> pretty sure sipsorcery & other MSVC builders only use windows 64, too, also, anything x86 32-bit-only is going to be too slow to either compile bitcoin core or do the initial sync
4242019-05-09T19:26:05  <wumpus> it's just a non issue
4252019-05-09T19:28:03  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: are you going to provide win32 builds of knots?
4262019-05-09T19:28:34  <luke-jr> gmaxwell: I am presently. I might so long as they continue to build, TBD
4272019-05-09T19:29:17  <luke-jr> (and then just drop them when they fail to build or someone reports them broken)
4282019-05-09T19:29:26  <instagibbs> If I were to remove bumpfee's totalFee argument, should I put it behind deprecation for a single release?
4292019-05-09T19:29:39  <instagibbs> just in case someone actually uses it?
4302019-05-09T19:29:43  <gmaxwell> I agree with wumpus on this but I also agree that a few complaints mean that there probably are a fair number of users, it would be nice if they had options.
4312019-05-09T19:30:53  <luke-jr> I suppose when there's something broken, we can always revisit the topic then
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4342019-05-09T19:32:21  <ryanofsky> instagibbs, that seems like a good idea assuming it's not difficult to do
4352019-05-09T19:33:15  <wumpus> instagibbs: yes, that'd be the normal way to do it, deprecate it for one release then remove it the next
4362019-05-09T19:33:19  <instagibbs> is there a doc on deprecation procedure or a great example?
4372019-05-09T19:33:24  <instagibbs> of something in master
4382019-05-09T19:35:21  <luke-jr> git grep Deprec
4392019-05-09T19:36:15  <instagibbs> ok seems to be one example in master, thanks
4402019-05-09T19:36:49  <wumpus> deprecation can be as simple as mentioning it in the RPC help for the method and in the release notes
4412019-05-09T19:37:29  <wumpus> there's also IsDeprecatedRPCEnabled(...) but that's for deprecating entire entry points, not individual arguments
4422019-05-09T19:38:27  <instagibbs> looks like it's used for hiding "size" value of mempool entries under "size" label
4432019-05-09T19:39:45  <gwillen> luke-jr: my guess is the answer for people complaining will be "you can upgrade one final time to knots 0.18, and if you ever need 0.19 you're probably on your own"
4442019-05-09T19:40:23  <gwillen> and given that older versions will continue to function for a long time unless there are major forking changes in the future, and even then should somewhat function
4452019-05-09T19:40:29  <gwillen> this doesn't seem unreasonable
4462019-05-09T19:41:57  <luke-jr> I don't really expect Win32 to break unless we go out  of the way to break it, anyway
4472019-05-09T19:42:02  <luke-jr> so it might even work with 0.19 *shrug*
4482019-05-09T19:42:24  <ryanofsky> i think it'd be fine to use IsDeprecatedRPCEnabled / Chain::rpcEnableDeprecated, it just needs a string describing the deprecated feature, not necessary a method name
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4512019-05-09T20:06:11  <jonasschnelli> would someone be opposed to add a generatetowallet call?
4522019-05-09T20:07:51  <wumpus> didn't we deprecate mining to wallet only very shortly ago?
4532019-05-09T20:07:59  <wumpus> (or rather, even, remove)
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4552019-05-09T20:10:36  <instagibbs> it was *just* removed
4562019-05-09T20:10:36  <instagibbs> lol
4572019-05-09T20:10:36  <ryanofsky> i think part of the motivation for #15492 was that non-wallet code was calling wallet code
4582019-05-09T20:10:38  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15492 | [rpc] remove deprecated generate method by Sjors · Pull Request #15492 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4592019-05-09T20:12:01  <ryanofsky> so if the call was handled in the wallet, maybe it would be ok?
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4622019-05-09T20:14:28  <wumpus> generate is only used in test code isn't it? I'm not sure it warrants adding additional RPCs
4632019-05-09T20:14:51  <instagibbs> it's very easy to chain generatetoaddress with getnewaddress, imo
4642019-05-09T20:14:59  <instagibbs> functional tests implicitly do this already
4652019-05-09T20:15:18  <wumpus> right
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4702019-05-09T20:42:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipsorcery opened pull request #15995: systemd service script: set usable permissions on /etc/bitcoin config dir (master...systemdconfig) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15995
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4742019-05-09T20:48:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #15996: Deprecate totalfee argument in `bumpfee` (master...deprecate_totalfee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15996
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4772019-05-09T20:55:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #15997: refactor: GuessVerificationProgress requires cs_main lock (master...2019-05-gvp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15997
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4852019-05-09T21:30:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #15998: refactor: Drop trivial X macro (master...2019-05-x) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15998
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4962019-05-09T21:55:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15999: init: Remove dead code in LoadChainTip (master...1905-initNoDead) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15999
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5022019-05-09T22:09:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #15998: refactor: Drop trivial X macro (master...2019-05-x) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15998
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5052019-05-09T22:12:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #15933: Make chain state immutable outside of validation (master...1905-immVal) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15933
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5072019-05-09T22:16:30  <MarcoFalke> Someone should add the `generate` method to the gui
5082019-05-09T22:16:47  <MarcoFalke> Would save me a lot of typing
5092019-05-09T22:18:37  <MarcoFalke> #16000
5102019-05-09T22:18:38  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16000 | GUI: Add generate method · Issue #16000 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5112019-05-09T22:19:37  <sipa> heh?
5122019-05-09T22:20:07  <sipa> any reason to specifically have that in the GUI?
5132019-05-09T22:20:20  <sipa> seems much easier to automate through RPC
5142019-05-09T22:24:43  <gmaxwell> maybe you should make it run it if you click the bitcoin logo ten times in quick succession.
5152019-05-09T22:25:27  <MarcoFalke> Lol, I am not trolling. It was removed from the rpc
5162019-05-09T22:27:10  <luke-jr> what is the use case⁇?
5172019-05-09T22:27:27  <sipa> MarcoFalke: a bash oneliner will work fin?
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5192019-05-09T22:28:09  <MarcoFalke> Excuse me? I am not using bash, that is for peasants
5202019-05-09T22:28:24  <sipa> lol
5212019-05-09T22:29:02  <MarcoFalke> I run my tests in the gui because it has autocomplete
5222019-05-09T22:30:04  * sipa checks if this is actually MarcoFalke 
5232019-05-09T22:30:30  <luke-jr> >implying bash doesn't autocomplete
5242019-05-09T22:30:43  <luke-jr> how do you even run the tests in the GUI?
5252019-05-09T22:30:58  <gmaxwell> I doubt anyone has created a bash-completion module for bitcoin-cli :)
5262019-05-09T22:31:09  <MarcoFalke> I mean manual tests
5272019-05-09T22:31:15  <luke-jr> gmaxwell: it's in the git repo..
5282019-05-09T22:31:23  <MarcoFalke> to run the functional tests in the gui you pass BITCOIND=bitcoin-qt
5292019-05-09T22:31:55  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: oh lol
5302019-05-09T22:32:13  <luke-jr> has been for years
5312019-05-09T22:32:27  <luke-jr> it just queries bitcoin-cli for the possible commands
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