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 742019-07-24T06:33:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #16448: doc: add note on precedence of options in bitcoin.conf (master...options_bitocin_conf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16448
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 892019-07-24T08:10:17  <fanquake> wumpus \o/
 902019-07-24T08:10:36  <wumpus> (sorry it took a while, hard to concentrate with these temperatures!)
 912019-07-24T08:10:52  <fanquake> too hot or too cold ?
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 962019-07-24T08:41:48  <wumpus> oh, we still need relesae notes for 0.18.1
 972019-07-24T08:42:14  <wumpus> release notes on the 0.18 branch are entirely blank at the moment https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.18/doc/release-notes.md
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1032019-07-24T09:09:11  <fanquake> 👀
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1052019-07-24T09:09:37  <fanquake> Good call. Are you putting those together, otherwise I can have a look later tonight
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1092019-07-24T09:28:45  <wumpus> i'll have a look at it in the evening
1102019-07-24T09:29:02  <wumpus> if you want to put in something already please do :)
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1372019-07-24T11:20:57  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/67923d6b3c1e...0626b8cbdf0a
1382019-07-24T11:20:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c3dfc91 Fabian Jahr: test: Skip flaky p2p_invalid_messages test on macOS
1392019-07-24T11:20:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0626b8c MarcoFalke: Merge #16445: test: Skip flaky p2p_invalid_messages test on macOS
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1422019-07-24T11:22:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #16445: test: Skip flaky p2p_invalid_messages test on macOS (master...mac_test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16445
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1472019-07-24T11:28:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] EvertonMelo opened pull request #16449: Update v4.3> zmq.md fix CVE-2019-6250 { doc }  (master...patch-22) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16449
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1832019-07-24T14:51:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #16451: Remove CMerkleTx (master...2019-07-remove-CMerkleTx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16451
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1982019-07-24T15:57:00  <dongcarl> So my prototype for addrv2 is passing all netbase tests except for one: `ResolveSubNet("::/0").Match(ResolveIP("1.2.3.4"))`
1992019-07-24T15:57:23  <dongcarl> Logically, should we treat IPv4 as a subset of IPv6?
2002019-07-24T15:58:22  <dongcarl> Another question: should we treat an all-0 netmask as meaning _any network_?
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2112019-07-24T16:35:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #16416: -datadir or -datadir="" option implies default datadir (master...20190718-nodatadir) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16416
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2162019-07-24T16:45:10  <wumpus> dongcarl: we've always regarded IPv4 as a subset of IPv6, I think to change that would need a very good reason, as it might break some things
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2212019-07-24T16:57:03  <dongcarl> wumpus: Sounds good
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2332019-07-24T17:34:12  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ariard opened pull request #16452: refactor : use RelayTransaction in BroadcastTransaction utility (master...2019-07-reuse-relay-tx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16452
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2502019-07-24T18:08:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0626b8cbdf0a...d960d5ca99b7
2512019-07-24T18:08:03  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0b86e51 Hennadii Stepanov: Refactor out translation.h
2522019-07-24T18:08:04  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7c45e14 Hennadii Stepanov: Add bilingual message type
2532019-07-24T18:08:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 753f7cc Hennadii Stepanov: scripted-diff: Make translation bilingual
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2572019-07-24T18:09:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #16362: Add bilingual_str type (master...20190709-bilingual-part-one) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16362
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2652019-07-24T18:15:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #16449: doc: Update v4.3> zmq.md fix CVE-2019-6250 (master...patch-22) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16449
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2782019-07-24T18:49:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 commit to 0.18: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a6cba19831da...784e218610d4
2792019-07-24T18:49:33  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 784e218 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Update release notes for rc1
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2842019-07-24T18:55:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16452: refactor: use RelayTransaction in BroadcastTransaction utility (master...2019-07-reuse-relay-tx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16452
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2872019-07-24T18:55:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #16452: refactor: use RelayTransaction in BroadcastTransaction utility (master...2019-07-reuse-relay-tx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16452
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2912019-07-24T19:10:07  <hebasto> should I rebase my open PR when a range of its commits are already merged with other PR? (see: #16224, #16362)
2922019-07-24T19:10:10  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16224 | gui: Bilingual GUI error messages by hebasto · Pull Request #16224 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2932019-07-24T19:10:12  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16362 | Add bilingual_str type by hebasto · Pull Request #16362 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2952019-07-24T19:33:12  <elichai2> sipa: Hey, I'm trying to figure out what kind of descriptors makes sense *inside* a `tap(internal_key, [...tree..])` desc, I came up with a new pk(let's call it ts_pk for the conversation) and a new multi for CHECKSIGADD scripts(n-of-n), and that's it? maybe `raw()`? (I don't think sh,wsh, pkh, wpkh, combo,addr or regular pk makes sense inside of taproot/tapscripts)
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2992019-07-24T19:46:17  <sipa> elichai2: join ##miniscript
3002019-07-24T19:46:37  <sipa> there are many things possible
3012019-07-24T19:47:10  <sipa> wsh/wpkh clearly don't make sense inside taproot, as they're only valid as toplevel things or p2sh by definition
3022019-07-24T19:47:43  <sipa> but i think pk/pkh should be, though perhaps by then we can just only have a miniscript variant for taproot and only support that inside taproot descriptors
3032019-07-24T19:48:08  <elichai2> But tapscript modifies `OP_CHECKSIG` to be with schnorr
3042019-07-24T19:48:14  <sipa> sure
3052019-07-24T19:48:37  <elichai2> so then `pk()` will mean different thing inside and outside of taproot
3062019-07-24T19:48:37  <sipa> but pk could have different semantics inside taproot than inside other things
3072019-07-24T19:48:41  <sipa> that's already the case
3082019-07-24T19:48:44  <elichai2> should it still be the same name?
3092019-07-24T19:48:53  <sipa> inside p2sh the sighash is computed differently than outside
3102019-07-24T19:49:00  <sipa> inside segwit it's computed even more differently
3112019-07-24T19:49:07  <elichai2> he
3122019-07-24T19:49:50  <elichai2> ok, makes sense. pkh doesn't make a lot of sense to me because when do you reveal the pubkey? on the same script you give the hash?
3132019-07-24T19:50:23  <sipa> elichai2: in miniscript we have a pk_h that's actually preferable sometimes to pk
3142019-07-24T19:50:38  <sipa> because you only put a shorter hash inside the script
3152019-07-24T19:51:18  <elichai2> but on the spending script you'll need to supply that key anyway. (in the same tx that you reveal the script with the hash)
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3172019-07-24T19:51:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16453: validation: Run CheckBlockIndex only on success (Fixup) (master...1907-validationCheckBlockIndexSuccess) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16453
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3192019-07-24T19:51:29  <sipa> elichai2: only if the branch is actually executed
3202019-07-24T19:51:45  <sipa> if the probability for that is low enough, this may be a good tradeoff
3212019-07-24T19:51:55  <sipa> the miniscript compiler can figure that out :)
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3252019-07-24T19:53:00  <elichai2> to alliveate 32 byte of hashing computation? ok haha, i'm trying to figure out if the current non-miniscript desc makes sense. because it seems that there's some time until miniscript is really public
3262019-07-24T19:53:28  <sipa> elichai2: no, to reduce the size of a satisfaction
3272019-07-24T19:53:51  <sipa> 20 byte hash instead of 33 byte pubkey
3282019-07-24T19:54:30  <elichai2> but if that's not the spending path you reveal only the hash of the branch anyway, right?
3292019-07-24T19:54:39  <sipa> right
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3342019-07-24T20:07:19  <elichai2> what about a SIGHASHADD multi descriptor?(n-of-n) do you think it should be a thing or people should try to stick to musig even when interactivity is a problem?
3352019-07-24T20:08:38  <sipa> elichai2: the signing interactivity won't always be possible, so there definitely should be a way to use CHECKSIGADD-based multisig scripts
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3372019-07-24T20:09:47  <sipa> elichai2: we could have a variant of multi for that in taproot descriptors (and i'd suggest that for that it does get a different name, because the actual opcodes that correspond to it are different)
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3392019-07-24T20:11:06  <elichai2> Right. and I think there's no point of talking about a muSig descriptor before musig has at least a standardization proposal
3402019-07-24T20:14:00  <sipa> agree
3412019-07-24T20:14:13  <sipa> i think the same is true about taproot
3422019-07-24T20:14:26  <sipa> but at least in terms of experimental work, we can do both
3432019-07-24T20:14:39  <sipa> but regardless, we can't do without non-musig based thresholds/multisig
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3492019-07-24T20:40:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16455: doc: Remove downgrading warning in release notes, per 0.18 branch (master...1907-docReleaseNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16455
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3582019-07-24T21:06:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16453: WIP: validation: Run CheckBlockIndex only on success (Fixup) (master...1907-validationCheckBlockIndexSuccess) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16453
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3862019-07-24T22:50:25  <elichai2> Is the right way to access the scripts in descriptors is using `ExpandHelper`? (because `MakeScripts` is private) (I have a function that parses a taproot desc and generates a tree with `DescriptorImpl` leafs, and I want to compute the right tweak)
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3902019-07-24T23:02:59  <sipa> elichai2: eh depends what you want to do
3912019-07-24T23:03:17  <sipa> MakeScripts is the node-type-specific function to be overridden
3922019-07-24T23:03:26  <sipa> ExpandHelper is what invokes things recursively etc
3932019-07-24T23:05:37  <elichai2> let's say I have a `PKDescriptor` descriptor there I would want to get the `KEY OP_CHECKSIG` script so I can hash it. it seems that naivley MakeScripts does it but it's designed as you said to be used internally by ExpandHelper
3942019-07-24T23:06:26  <sipa> everything is expanded into the FlatSigningProvider
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3962019-07-24T23:07:41  <sipa> you'll need to add some interface to SigningProvider to access taproot pubkey->key or pubkey->(merklebranch,script) things
3972019-07-24T23:08:10  <elichai2> does it expand in `ParseScript` already? or do I need to call something to make it expand there?
3982019-07-24T23:08:21  <sipa> ParseScript just builds the Descriptor objects
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4002019-07-24T23:08:35  <sipa> filling the FlatSigningProvider happens through the Expand* functions
4012019-07-24T23:09:12  <elichai2> Ok. So I'll make my TapDescriptor contain DescriptorImpls and not scripts and i'll expand them later when needed. Thanks!
4022019-07-24T23:09:23  <sipa> that sounds right
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