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 49 2020-01-21T05:22:45  <ossifrage> wow, bitcoin seems to run much faster on a mdraid10+xfs vs btrfs+raid1
 50 2020-01-21T05:23:01  <ossifrage> (same drives)
 51 2020-01-21T05:23:45  <ossifrage> it has been grinding through 11 weeks of mainnet blocks at a nice rate
 52 2020-01-21T05:24:41  <BlueMatt> btrfs eats databases cause cow/checksumming, also raid1 vs raid10....
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 54 2020-01-21T05:27:24  <ossifrage> BlueMatt, only 2 disks
 55 2020-01-21T05:28:41  <ossifrage> I had a drive get knocked off the bus due to some 'event' and the recovery was a torture, never had the same problems with mdraid
 56 2020-01-21T05:29:36  <BlueMatt> point being apples != oranges.
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 58 2020-01-21T05:29:53  <ossifrage> btrfs seems to have bugs related to it throwing ENOSPC and getting in a state where you can't mount it rw anymore (and no recovery path)
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 60 2020-01-21T05:31:00  <ossifrage> BlueMatt, it is effectively the same mirrored disk layout, I just used the raid10 driver because it did a good job at starting the array in a degraded state
 61 2020-01-21T05:31:40  <BlueMatt> google cow/btrfs checksumming
 62 2020-01-21T05:32:08  <ossifrage> Yeah I had btrfs screw up all the checksums when doing CoW + vmware
 63 2020-01-21T05:32:13  <BlueMatt> btrfs is verrryyyy different than xfs
 64 2020-01-21T05:32:33  <ossifrage> but I was committed to it at that point, didn't have enough space to recover
 65 2020-01-21T05:32:51  <ossifrage> this failure mode gave me a chance to dump btrfs
 66 2020-01-21T05:33:28  <ossifrage> (mounted half the btrfs and created half a mdraid+xfs, copied the data over and then rebuilt the array)
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 68 2020-01-21T05:34:45  <ossifrage> But I did get bitten by dedupe, I forgot I had deduped the btrfs volume and when copying over the data I tarballed some of the stuff and ended up using 50G more
 69 2020-01-21T05:35:16  <ossifrage> Crap: 2020-01-21T05:25:47.282128Z *** Disk space is too low!
 70 2020-01-21T05:36:45  <ossifrage> huh, the bitcoin-qt UI won't raise after throwing the low disk space error
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 73 2020-01-21T05:56:57  <luke-jr> BlueMatt: ZFS does CoW/checksumming and doesn't perform terrible  FWIW
 74 2020-01-21T05:58:30  <ossifrage> one really annoying thing with btrfs is it doesn't spread raid1 reads uniformly over both drives
 75 2020-01-21T05:58:46  <ossifrage> it does some stupid pid&1 thing to figure which drive gets the io
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 77 2020-01-21T06:00:08  <ossifrage> The bitcoin-qt UI really didn't like running out of disk, I wasn't able to raise it and I ended up having to do a hard kill to get it to exit
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 79 2020-01-21T06:00:23  <luke-jr> if it ran out of space, it should be shutting down
 80 2020-01-21T06:00:30  <luke-jr> which can take some time
 81 2020-01-21T06:01:02  <ossifrage> it didn't seem to be making any progress shutting down (or any sign in the log that it was trying)
 82 2020-01-21T06:01:11  <luke-jr> might be a bug
 83 2020-01-21T06:01:22  <luke-jr> or if the disk was completely full, it might have been blocking
 84 2020-01-21T06:01:40  <ossifrage> (I freed up 12G right away)
 85 2020-01-21T06:02:13  <ossifrage> after the 'too low' message all I got was ping and socket send timeouts in the log
 86 2020-01-21T06:02:16  <luke-jr> anyway, I definitely wouldn't advise using btrfs. I still have some, and almost always regret not migrating it, when I access it
 87 2020-01-21T06:02:34  <ossifrage> luke-jr, I was happy to finally get rid of it
 88 2020-01-21T06:03:13  <ossifrage> but the process was rather painful (especially when it turned out nothing was wrong with the drive)
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104 2020-01-21T07:50:59  <kallewoof> I just realized that both of the two macos fixes I have PR:s for will, combined, fix the APFS pre-allocation issue. As long as you ftruncate to the pre-allocated size, the system will successfully reclaim space when you shrink the file later. I.e. preallocate 1 mb; truncate 128 b -> 1 mb file, whereas preallocate 1 mb, truncate 1 mb, truncate 128 b -> 4 k (or whatever the sector (?) size happens to be).
105 2020-01-21T07:52:40  <kallewoof> Actually, even better.. the F_PREALLOCATE fix alone will fix it, since it does the truncation correctly.
106 2020-01-21T07:56:40  <kallewoof> Actually#2, it seems like you don't even need to ftruncate to the file size in question, you just need to be near it. Which is good, since we are over-pre-allocating by up to <chunk size>.
107 2020-01-21T07:56:42  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/2 | Long-term, safe, store-of-value · Issue #2 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
108 2020-01-21T08:10:02  <midnight> ah, platform quirks.  was there ever a more welcome source of joy.
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130 2020-01-21T10:33:22  <setpill> Snap is now an officially supported distribution method for bitcoin core?
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132 2020-01-21T10:53:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Bushstar opened pull request #17971: Remove redundant conditional (master...remove-redundant-conditional) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17971
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155 2020-01-21T13:00:55  <phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, btrfs eats data, ftfu
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159 2020-01-21T13:09:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #17972: tests: Add fuzzing harness for CKey and key related functions (master...fuzzers-key) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17972
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163 2020-01-21T13:25:21  <luke-jr> setpill: the Snaps are just a wrapper around the gitian binaries last I checked - best to verify the latter in that case
164 2020-01-21T13:26:03  <luke-jr> setpill: if you can use the PPA, that's probably preferable since it's built by Canonical (who also maintains your OS presumably) and compiled specifically for the target platform
165 2020-01-21T13:26:09  <luke-jr> (of course, building yourself from source is ideal)
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187 2020-01-21T14:34:10  <setpill> luke-jr: the PPA was deprecated because of loss of trust in Ubuntu/Canonical, I am not sure why a Snap would be a good replacement :/
188 2020-01-21T14:35:42  <setpill> Not that I use Ubuntu, I just saw the Snap Store link on the bitcoincore.org download page and was very surprised
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199 2020-01-21T15:35:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #17974: net: Log to net category for exceptions in ProcessMessages (0.18...bp18_network_exceptions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17974
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217 2020-01-21T16:49:47  <instagibbs> is there any way in the github review lifecycle to preview all the comments you're going to make in one place? I can't seem to find this
218 2020-01-21T16:50:22  <instagibbs> "preview" button just previews what the final comment is, not all the comments on the code
219 2020-01-21T16:51:41  <achow101> instagibbs: on the main comments page it should show you all of the comments you are about to make in that review
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221 2020-01-21T16:53:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jachiang opened pull request #17975: TestFramework: Add Python Miniscript Support (master...test_miniscript) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17975
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223 2020-01-21T16:53:20  <instagibbs> ah, of course.
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227 2020-01-21T17:14:25  <luke-jr> setpill: the PPA wasn't deprecated; Matt just decided to stop maintaining it, so I took over that job.
228 2020-01-21T17:14:33  <luke-jr> if you don't trust Ubuntu/Canonical, you need to get another OS.
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232 2020-01-21T17:43:44  <BlueMatt> if you use ubuntu, you need to get another OS...ftfu :p
233 2020-01-21T17:49:47  <instagibbs> or just download the signed binaries? :P
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235 2020-01-21T17:56:29  <luke-jr> BlueMatt: well, I can't disagree with that :P
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243 2020-01-21T18:19:27  <instagibbs> 4 utACKs, #17492 should be ready for merge
244 2020-01-21T18:19:29  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17492 | QT: bump fee returns PSBT on clipboard for watchonly-only wallets by instagibbs · Pull Request #17492 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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299 2020-01-21T23:14:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #17977: [WIP] Implement BIP 340-342 validation (Schnorr/taproot/tapscript) (master...taproot) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17977
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302 2020-01-21T23:17:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] RandyMcMillan opened pull request #17978: gui: walletcontroller display long wallet names better (master...toHtmlEscaped) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17978
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