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143 2020-02-13T07:01:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #18135: build: add --no-insert-timestamp to Windows linker flags (master...no_insert_timestamp_ld) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18135
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164 2020-02-13T07:45:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2bdc476d4d23...b6a16fa44ef2
165 2020-02-13T07:45:21  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bf36a3c Russell Yanofsky: gui: Fix race in WalletModel::pollBalanceChanged
166 2020-02-13T07:45:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b6a16fa Jonas Schnelli: Merge #18123: gui: Fix race in WalletModel::pollBalanceChanged
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169 2020-02-13T07:45:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli merged pull request #18123: gui: Fix race in WalletModel::pollBalanceChanged (master...pr/pollbug) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18123
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173 2020-02-13T07:48:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b6a16fa44ef2...0c20809da85a
174 2020-02-13T07:48:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c9fe612 Hennadii Stepanov: gui: Throttle GUI update pace when -reindex
175 2020-02-13T07:48:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0c20809 Jonas Schnelli: Merge #18121: gui: Throttle GUI update pace when -reindex
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178 2020-02-13T07:48:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli merged pull request #18121: gui: Throttle GUI update pace when -reindex (master...20200211-reindex-gui) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18121
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201 2020-02-13T09:26:39  <fanquake> wumpus sipa can you block https://github.com/1b3634f6-9166-46d7-a43a-51d575159cf0 from the wiki / repo
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229 2020-02-13T12:06:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Bushstar opened pull request #18138: build: remove redundant compiler error supression (master...redundant-no-error) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18138
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259 2020-02-13T14:24:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #18139: doc: Add missing author to 0.19.1 release notes (0.19...2002-docRelAuth) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18139
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266 2020-02-13T14:56:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Bushstar closed pull request #18138: build: remove redundant compiler warning suppression (master...redundant-no-error) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18138
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276 2020-02-13T15:27:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to 0.19: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/628103d67302...a28ea316ed47
277 2020-02-13T15:27:59  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.19 facbdc0 MarcoFalke: doc: Add missing author to 0.19.1 release notes
278 2020-02-13T15:27:59  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.19 a28ea31 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #18139: doc: Add missing author to 0.19.1 release notes
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282 2020-02-13T15:28:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #18139: doc: Add missing author to 0.19.1 release notes (0.19...2002-docRelAuth) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18139
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284 2020-02-13T15:34:16  <promag> wumpus: sorry, bad week with flu.. will try to catch especially those that I think should go before feature freeze
285 2020-02-13T15:36:00  <wumpus> promag: thanks, no problem (I'm not sure anything needs to be done for #17746)
286 2020-02-13T15:36:04  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17746 | rpc: Remove vector copy from listtransactions by promag · Pull Request #17746 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
287 2020-02-13T15:37:00  <promag> I'll add Russell suggestions
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289 2020-02-13T15:38:47  <jonatack> Should #17812 be tagged for v0.20? (also, is a release note needed for the asmap config?)
290 2020-02-13T15:38:50  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17812 | config, net, test: asmap functional tests and feature refinements by jonatack · Pull Request #17812 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
291 2020-02-13T15:40:17  <wumpus> it would definitely be nice to have a release note for asmap, noting that it's an experimental feature, what it does, a link to how to use it
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294 2020-02-13T15:45:55  <jonatack> yes. will propose this weekend (separately from 17812 since it already has review and acks) if gleb doesn't do one before
295 2020-02-13T15:46:37  <jonatack> heh, only now realised that it's friday already
296 2020-02-13T15:47:09  <jonatack> err, thursday
297 2020-02-13T15:49:01  <luke-jr> would asmap be worth including in Knots 0.19.1 for some earlier testing? mostly I'd just need to get rid of the dummy binary file (patch doesn't like those)
298 2020-02-13T15:49:36  <sipa> i don't think we're planning on distributing the map file yet
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300 2020-02-13T15:50:32  <luke-jr> sipa: last time I looked, the PR had a like ~30 byte binary file included?
301 2020-02-13T15:50:41  <luke-jr> I assume an empty asmap
302 2020-02-13T15:53:20  <jonatack> sipa: ETA? is review needed in sipa/asmap? fwiw i've been running an experimental node since weeks with sipa/asmap/demo.map (932999 bytes)
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304 2020-02-13T15:56:05  <sipa> luke-jr: oh, that's for the testz
305 2020-02-13T15:56:19  <sipa> we have plenty of binary files for testing, no?
306 2020-02-13T15:56:22  <luke-jr> ah, I can probably just drop the test then
307 2020-02-13T15:56:44  <luke-jr> sipa: probably, but I distribute Knots in patch form, so I can't add binary files
308 2020-02-13T15:57:10  <luke-jr> keyword: add
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312 2020-02-13T16:07:43  <sipa> ah
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314 2020-02-13T16:08:09  <sipa> jonatack: ETA for what?
315 2020-02-13T16:13:32  <jonatack> sipa: distributing the map file. still, users may want to generate their own, i suppose?
316 2020-02-13T16:14:33  <jonatack> (this is unclear to me and i should look at that)
317 2020-02-13T16:15:33  * luke-jr wonders how much damage a malicious asmap could do
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329 2020-02-13T16:38:05  <sipa> jonatack: i think the plan was to not have a distributed one in the first release
330 2020-02-13T16:39:35  * jonatack reading irc discussion at http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/log-2019-06-20.html#l-518
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345 2020-02-13T17:18:30  <wumpus> sipa: agree, not for 0.20
346 2020-02-13T17:19:24  <wumpus> luke-jr: with regard to malicious asmaps, I wouldn't assume the curent code is completely hardened against that, there might be more bugs like the one in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18023/commits/c86bc144081f960347232546f7d22deb65d27deb
347 2020-02-13T17:27:04  <vasild> #17563 fixes a compilation error on FreeBSD (assuming -Werror). Right now I have to apply that fix on top of whatever other changes I have made in order to compile (I refuse to depart from -Werror). Would be nice to get some more reviews. It already has one ACK.
348 2020-02-13T17:27:07  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17563 | lib: fix a compiler warning: unused GetDevURandom() by vasild · Pull Request #17563 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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350 2020-02-13T17:36:13  <jonatack> luke-jr: i began writing tests for unparseable asmap files but the scope goes beyond the changes in the open PR, see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17812/#discussion_r377734856
351 2020-02-13T17:37:51  <jonatack> also there is work that can be done on the unit tests
352 2020-02-13T17:39:34  <luke-jr> wumpus: I was thinking more like getting nodes to connect to malicious peers
353 2020-02-13T17:41:13  <sipa> luke-jr: in that case, yes, trivially
354 2020-02-13T17:41:31  <sipa> mark the entire internet except the attacker's range as one AS
355 2020-02-13T17:41:59  <luke-jr> sipa: you wouldn't end up with at least half the peers from the internet?
356 2020-02-13T17:42:55  <sipa> no; the attacker would mark each of his IPs as separate ASes
357 2020-02-13T17:43:00  <wumpus> heh
358 2020-02-13T17:43:05  <sipa> and then the rest of the internet as one
359 2020-02-13T17:43:31  <luke-jr> o
360 2020-02-13T17:46:00  <jonatack> perhaps some sanity checks could be added
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363 2020-02-13T17:50:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0c20809da85a...470664f2b788
364 2020-02-13T17:50:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 25bc17f João Barbosa: refactor: rpc: Remove vector copy from listtransactions
365 2020-02-13T17:50:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 470664f Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #17746: refactor: rpc: Remove vector copy from listtransactions
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368 2020-02-13T17:51:01  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17746: refactor: rpc: Remove vector copy from listtransactions (master...2019-12-listtransactions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17746
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378 2020-02-13T18:26:39  <dongcarl> If I understand correctly... we only have one codesigner for windows?
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380 2020-02-13T18:28:07  <cfields_> dongcarl: yup
381 2020-02-13T18:28:28  <dongcarl> who's the assigned codesigner?
382 2020-02-13T18:28:36  <cfields_> and the cert expires in March, should probably discuss.
383 2020-02-13T18:28:39  <cfields_> dongcarl: me
384 2020-02-13T18:29:25  <cfields_> dongcarl: why do you ask?
385 2020-02-13T18:29:30  <dongcarl> Ah okay, question: in both release-process.md and gitian-win-signer.yml, there's reference to a bitcoin-osx-unsigned.tar.gz
386 2020-02-13T18:29:53  <dongcarl> However, I only ever see a bitcoin-0.19.99-win-unsigned.tar.gz in the output... is it manually renamed?
387 2020-02-13T18:30:34  <dongcarl> sorry I mean... bitcoin-win-unsigned.tar.gz
388 2020-02-13T18:31:11  <cfields_> "tar xf ../bitcoin-0.19.1rc2-win-unsigned.tar.gz"
389 2020-02-13T18:31:28  <cfields_> Is what I unpacked to sign rc2
390 2020-02-13T18:32:27  <cfields_> Oh, sorry. This is in my building script:
391 2020-02-13T18:32:48  <cfields_> cp build/out/*-win-unsigned.tar.gz inputs/bitcoin-win-unsigned.tar.gz
392 2020-02-13T18:34:29  <dongcarl> cfields_: Okay so is the codesigning done outside of gitian? And the gitian-win-signer.yml is just the signature attachment that's doable by everyone?
393 2020-02-13T18:34:29  <cfields_> dongcarl: IIRC it's to avoid having to change the gitian recipe for each release.
394 2020-02-13T18:34:46  <cfields_> Right
395 2020-02-13T18:35:13  <wumpus> yes, gitian-win-signer attached the signature and validates the result IIRC
396 2020-02-13T18:35:38  <dongcarl> I see, this is roughly the same for gitian-osx-signer as well?
397 2020-02-13T18:35:47  <cfields_> I take bitcoin-0.19.99-win-unsigned.tar.gz, untar it, run the script inside, and commit the results to bitcoin-detached-sigs
398 2020-02-13T18:35:49  <cfields_> Yup
399 2020-02-13T18:35:51  <dongcarl> (I'm implementing the functionality in guix right now that's why I'm asking)
400 2020-02-13T18:36:28  <dongcarl> cool, thanks!
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402 2020-02-13T18:36:33  <cfields_> Ok. No need to emulate the name weirdness. Renaming to bitcoin-win-unsigned.tar.gz is just a hack.
403 2020-02-13T18:36:45  <cfields_> and same for osx.
404 2020-02-13T18:36:54  <dongcarl> roger that!
405 2020-02-13T18:38:01  <cfields_> #proposedmeetingtopic expiring Windows codesigning key
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407 2020-02-13T18:40:51  <kanzure> #proposedmeetingtopic topic collection for physical meeting (follow-up)
408 2020-02-13T18:54:01  <achow101> dongcarl: #14325 changed the gitian-build.py script to use the versioned tarball instead of the generic one so that you could do concurrent release builds
409 2020-02-13T18:54:04  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14325 | [gitian] use versioned unsigned tarballs instead of generically named ones by achow101 · Pull Request #14325 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
410 2020-02-13T18:55:37  <dongcarl> achow101: Ah. There are too many places to look for what gitian is actually doing... Thanks for the pointer
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413 2020-02-13T19:00:50  <wumpus> #startmeeting
414 2020-02-13T19:00:50  <lightningbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 13 19:00:50 2020 UTC.  The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
415 2020-02-13T19:00:50  <lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
416 2020-02-13T19:00:54  <jnewbery> hi
417 2020-02-13T19:00:58  <cfields_> hi
418 2020-02-13T19:01:07  <fjahr> hi
419 2020-02-13T19:01:08  <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb moneyball kvaciral ariard digi_james amiti fjahr
420 2020-02-13T19:01:09  <wumpus> jeremyrubin lightlike emilengler jonatack hebasto jb55
421 2020-02-13T19:01:10  <provoostenator> hi
422 2020-02-13T19:01:12  <hebasto> hi
423 2020-02-13T19:01:12  <amiti> hi
424 2020-02-13T19:01:12  <emilengler> hi
425 2020-02-13T19:01:13  <jonasschnelli> hi
426 2020-02-13T19:01:14  <kanzure> hi
427 2020-02-13T19:01:15  <jb55> hi
428 2020-02-13T19:01:15  <jonatack> hi
429 2020-02-13T19:01:21  <jkczyz> hi
430 2020-02-13T19:01:31  <achow101> hi
431 2020-02-13T19:02:14  <wumpus> no proposed topics for today in https://gist.github.com/moneyball/071d608fdae217c2a6d7c35955881d8a, but some have been proposed above by cfields_ and kanzure
432 2020-02-13T19:02:28  <wumpus> kanzure | #proposedmeetingtopic topic collection for physical meeting (follow-up)
433 2020-02-13T19:02:29  <kanzure> oh it's not an automated tool
434 2020-02-13T19:02:41  <kanzure> yeah so i'm still collecting topic suggestions for coredev.tech meeting
435 2020-02-13T19:02:45  <wumpus> cfields_ | #proposedmeetingtopic expiring Windows codesigning key
436 2020-02-13T19:03:12  <wumpus> no it's not automated afaik
437 2020-02-13T19:03:23  <wumpus> any other last minute topics?
438 2020-02-13T19:03:30  <cfields_> Oh whoops, I thought something scraped them too.
439 2020-02-13T19:03:45  <achow101> should make an automated tool to collect those
440 2020-02-13T19:04:10  <wumpus> I'm sure moneyball will be thankful if you make one :)
441 2020-02-13T19:05:00  <wumpus> #topic High priority for review
442 2020-02-13T19:05:21  <provoostenator> I'd like to nominate #17509 for hi-prio review (gwillen has a PR on top)
443 2020-02-13T19:05:23  <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8  -- 8 blockers, 1 bugfix, 6 chasing concept
444 2020-02-13T19:05:23  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17509 | gui: save and load PSBT by Sjors · Pull Request #17509 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
445 2020-02-13T19:05:54  <achow101> Replace #16528 with #18034. we keep deciding it's a good idea to stack more PRs before descriptor wallets :/
446 2020-02-13T19:05:56  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16528 | Native Descriptor Wallets using DescriptorScriptPubKeyMan by achow101 · Pull Request #16528 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
447 2020-02-13T19:05:57  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18034 | Get the OutputType for a descriptor by achow101 · Pull Request #18034 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
448 2020-02-13T19:07:08  <wumpus> 17509 added
449 2020-02-13T19:07:17  <meshcollider> hi
450 2020-02-13T19:07:27  <wumpus> achow101: why is that? (deciding to stack more PRs)
451 2020-02-13T19:08:53  <moneyball> i would very much welcome a tool that automates my process of downloading the log archive and grep'ing for proposed meeting topics!
452 2020-02-13T19:09:07  <wumpus> replaced 16528 with 18034
453 2020-02-13T19:09:13  <achow101> mostly just cleaning things up so descriptor wallets is slightly less painful to review
454 2020-02-13T19:09:47  <achow101> missed a few things during all of the wallet boxes stuff, including a glaring hole in the design itself that doesn't work with hardware wallets
455 2020-02-13T19:09:54  <wumpus> okay if it helps review that's good
456 2020-02-13T19:10:06  <wumpus> whoops
457 2020-02-13T19:11:02  <wumpus> #topic Expiring windows codesigning key (cfields_)
458 2020-02-13T19:11:32  <cfields_> For once we're not scrambling to deal with an expired codesigning cert. The current Windows cert expires on Mar 26, 23:59:59 2020 GMT. We'll need to renew before then.
459 2020-02-13T19:11:33  <cfields_> Last year gwillen was kind enough to renew the cert for us.
460 2020-02-13T19:12:02  <cfields_> Also, it probably makes sense for the signer to be someone more active.
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462 2020-02-13T19:12:50  <wumpus> any volunteers? what's involved?
463 2020-02-13T19:12:57  <achow101> does it require a windows machine?
464 2020-02-13T19:13:11  <jonasschnelli> We could purchase it via the Bitcoin Core Code Signing Association
465 2020-02-13T19:13:19  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: was about to suggest that
466 2020-02-13T19:13:20  <jonasschnelli> (make sure the certificate belong to that name)
467 2020-02-13T19:13:34  <cfields_> No, Windows isn't required. You hold a key and run a bash script for each release.
468 2020-02-13T19:13:41  <jonasschnelli> there are no funds though,.. :)
469 2020-02-13T19:14:26  <jonatack> how often does the cert expire?
470 2020-02-13T19:14:38  <cfields_> Since it's not a rush this time, I can open a github issue to discuss.
471 2020-02-13T19:14:40  <wumpus> how expensive is a cert?
472 2020-02-13T19:14:50  <cfields_> jonatack: This one was a 1year, I think you can also buy a 2.
473 2020-02-13T19:15:08  <jonasschnelli> Last time I checked most cert where around 200usd
474 2020-02-13T19:15:09  <cfields_> wumpus: good question, sec.
475 2020-02-13T19:15:12  <jonasschnelli> (per year)
476 2020-02-13T19:15:26  <jonasschnelli> always depends on the issuer...
477 2020-02-13T19:15:35  <wumpus> I guess we can't use the travel fund for this?
478 2020-02-13T19:15:48  <jonasschnelli> we could... or we find a generous sponsor. :)
479 2020-02-13T19:15:53  <achow101> I could do the signing. I've done every gitian build for quite a while, usually on time
480 2020-02-13T19:15:56  <jonasschnelli> I sponsor the apple one already,...
481 2020-02-13T19:16:16  <jonasschnelli> ack on achow101
482 2020-02-13T19:16:23  <jonasschnelli> (thanks for volunteering)
483 2020-02-13T19:16:27  <wumpus> sounds good to me!
484 2020-02-13T19:16:48  <cfields_> Yeah, I can't find the price off-hand, but it was somewhere under $200. IIRC closer to $100 for the 1yr.
485 2020-02-13T19:17:09  <jonasschnelli> I guess its best if you achow101 purchase the cert.. we can pay it via the coredev.tech fund if no-one opposes that
486 2020-02-13T19:17:36  <wumpus> +1
487 2020-02-13T19:17:51  <wumpus> but sure, if we can find another sponsor that'd be great
488 2020-02-13T19:18:13  <achow101> sure
489 2020-02-13T19:18:23  <kanzure> moneyball: http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt should have topics collected ~5 minutes before each meeting. let me know if it breaks.
490 2020-02-13T19:18:24  <jonasschnelli> thanks to a falling USD, the coredev.tech bitcoin holding have quite some purchase power
491 2020-02-13T19:18:54  <cfields_> Under $100: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15682#issuecomment-477486862
492 2020-02-13T19:19:32  <achow101> I wonder if I can expense it to blockstream...
493 2020-02-13T19:19:45  <jonasschnelli> heh. try it!
494 2020-02-13T19:19:46  <cfields_> I can buy if we can't find a sponsor. Buying my way out :)
495 2020-02-13T19:20:11  <jonasschnelli> cfields_: you did great! No need to buy yourself out
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497 2020-02-13T19:21:03  <achow101> cfields_: is the script(s) in contrib/windeploy?
498 2020-02-13T19:21:05  <wumpus> yes, thanks for all your work
499 2020-02-13T19:21:12  <cfields_> Ok, will discuss with achow outside of the meeting.
500 2020-02-13T19:21:26  <achow101> +1
501 2020-02-13T19:21:30  <wumpus> #topic Topic collection for physical meeting (kanzure)
502 2020-02-13T19:21:50  <kanzure> yeah still collecting topics, let me know what you do or don't want to hear about
503 2020-02-13T19:21:51  <cfields_> achow101: yes, but gitian spits them out. It's as simple as running a script from the gitian payload.
504 2020-02-13T19:22:29  <kanzure> things on the list include stuff like guix, more build stuff, erlay, miniscript integration, descriptor wallets
505 2020-02-13T19:23:02  <kanzure> HWI updates will probably get in there...
506 2020-02-13T19:23:17  <kanzure> oh and forgot about taproot. anyway, that's all.
507 2020-02-13T19:23:29  <achow101> kanzure: oh yeah, HWI. add that to mine
508 2020-02-13T19:24:23  <kanzure> added.
509 2020-02-13T19:24:32  <kanzure> i think hearing about the fuzzing work would be interesting
510 2020-02-13T19:24:42  <jnewbery> people have given me some topic requests in the survey responses. I'll pass those on to you, kanzure
511 2020-02-13T19:24:47  <kanzure> thank you
512 2020-02-13T19:25:18  <kanzure> another note here's my two second hack for proposedmeetingtopic scraping (set to run 5 minutes before the meeting time each day) http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt
513 2020-02-13T19:25:35  <jnewbery> incidentally, thank you to everyone who replied to the survey (30 responses so far). Very much appreciate your time. I'll present aggregate results at coredev
514 2020-02-13T19:27:01  <cfields_> kanzure: heh, nice.
515 2020-02-13T19:28:04  <wumpus> that was quick :)
516 2020-02-13T19:28:25  <wumpus> any other topics?
517 2020-02-13T19:29:34  <wumpus> nothing else to discuss?
518 2020-02-13T19:29:51  <kanzure> i am now daily timestamping the logs?
519 2020-02-13T19:30:03  <emilengler> cool
520 2020-02-13T19:30:28  <kanzure> http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/timestamps/
521 2020-02-13T19:30:33  <kanzure> not much of a topic :)
522 2020-02-13T19:30:42  <emilengler> well but good to know
523 2020-02-13T19:31:03  <jeremyrubin> hi
524 2020-02-13T19:31:26  <cfields_> oh, quick last-second thing...
525 2020-02-13T19:31:28  <jonasschnelli> macOS notarization is also done now. We start with the next release
526 2020-02-13T19:31:29  <wumpus> nice!
527 2020-02-13T19:31:56  <cfields_> would there still be interest in a multi-signer protocol for codesigning? That might be a good project for a student around here.
528 2020-02-13T19:32:13  <cfields_> Not for this time around, ofc. But maybe for next time.
529 2020-02-13T19:32:24  <jonasschnelli> I question if it is worth the effort... but if someone is up for... yeah. Why not
530 2020-02-13T19:32:44  <jonasschnelli> Just expect that Apple changes the key types (and enforces them) probably with 1 week notice.. :)
531 2020-02-13T19:32:54  <cfields_> Heh, fair point.
532 2020-02-13T19:33:17  <jonasschnelli> I guess its still RSA right now... but I'm sure they have plans to migrate away from that
533 2020-02-13T19:33:28  <achow101> cfields_: hasn't that been on the todo list for the past 6 or so years?
534 2020-02-13T19:33:41  <jonasschnelli> heh.. maybe past 4
535 2020-02-13T19:34:00  <cfields_> achow101: heh, yep, every time codesigning comes up. But this time I might actually be able to sucker someone into doing it :)
536 2020-02-13T19:34:22  <wumpus> it's a pretty old idea by now, yes, the problem is backfitting something like that into proprietary codesigning systems
537 2020-02-13T19:34:57  <jonasschnelli> And at the end, it's little security/trust compared to our gitian signatures
538 2020-02-13T19:35:18  <wumpus> right, it's not as if it's going to replace gitian signature verification
539 2020-02-13T19:35:20  <cfields_> Ok, not much interest.
540 2020-02-13T19:35:23  <jonasschnelli> I would rather invest resources in having a release-checker within bitcoin-cores binary (+Qt)
541 2020-02-13T19:35:26  <cfields_> Thanks, that's a helpful answer too.
542 2020-02-13T19:36:16  <jonasschnelli> Gitian is such a nice process.... but I doubt many people verify (which makes it kinda pointless).
543 2020-02-13T19:36:34  <jonasschnelli> If they could just verify from directly withing older bitcoin core versions.
544 2020-02-13T19:36:36  <wumpus> well at least the people that build verify that's something...
545 2020-02-13T19:36:51  <jonasschnelli> yes. that alone is a big plus.
546 2020-02-13T19:37:13  <cfields_> Yeah, I see it more as a proof that it can be done.
547 2020-02-13T19:37:18  <cfields_> Anyway, </topic>. Thanks.
548 2020-02-13T19:37:28  <wumpus> but yes it might be nice to have a tool that automates verification integrated, so that if people have one version of bitcoin core they can verify a newer one they downloaded
549 2020-02-13T19:37:34  <jonasschnelli> not that its not a cool project.
550 2020-02-13T19:38:03  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: Yes. Agree. We could have secp256k1 signatures from the gitian assert files... then verify those within core
551 2020-02-13T19:38:25  <wumpus> yup
552 2020-02-13T19:38:45  <wumpus> any other topics?
553 2020-02-13T19:39:42  <wumpus> #endmeeting
554 2020-02-13T19:39:42  <lightningbot> Meeting ended Thu Feb 13 19:39:42 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
555 2020-02-13T19:39:42  <lightningbot> Minutes:        http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-02-13-19.00.html
556 2020-02-13T19:39:42  <lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-02-13-19.00.txt
557 2020-02-13T19:39:42  <lightningbot> Log:            http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-02-13-19.00.log.html
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561 2020-02-13T19:42:05  <sipa> oops
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563 2020-02-13T19:43:32  <cfields_> @sipa Well you were 18min early, at least :)
564 2020-02-13T19:46:06  <sipa> more like 10062 minutes early
565 2020-02-13T19:47:02  <wumpus> that's a lot of minutes
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575 2020-02-13T20:21:21  <provoostenator> Just did a brain dump about how to (mabey) coordinate a multisig wallet setup: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18142
576 2020-02-13T20:22:42  <jeremyrubin> sdaftuar: here?
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613 2020-02-13T22:56:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] bitzec opened pull request #18143: Update chainparams.cpp (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18143
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616 2020-02-13T22:56:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #18143: Update chainparams.cpp (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18143
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620 2020-02-13T23:20:08  <gwillen> provoostenator: thanks for putting 17509 up for hi-pri, I am on a train and had no cell signal during the meeting
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