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 422020-07-18T02:37:23  <fanquake> I think this was when we were building 0.20.0: https://gist.github.com/fanquake/0189129764edd9aa9d89fd274f790176
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 972020-07-18T07:27:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 9 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fd59670642f5...090d87716074
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 992020-07-18T07:27:34  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e48094a practicalswift: tests: Add FuzzedAutoFileProvider which provides a CAutoFile interface to ...
1002020-07-18T07:27:34  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e507c07 practicalswift: tests: Add serialization/deserialization fuzzing helpers WriteToStream(…)/...
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1032020-07-18T07:28:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #19143: tests: Add fuzzing harnesses for CAutoFile, CBufferedFile, LoadExternalBlockFile and other FILE* consumers (master...fuzzers-FILE) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19143
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1112020-07-18T08:37:14  <wumpus> ok... I did nothing different from last version
1122020-07-18T08:38:01  <wumpus> looks like there was a small update to gitian-builder but it's only a hashbang change nothing that could impact the build substantially
1132020-07-18T08:40:00  <wumpus> I'll try regenerating the base image and wiping the caches again
1142020-07-18T08:40:19  <wumpus> it seems increasingly difficult to build deterministically for osx
1152020-07-18T08:40:48  <wumpus> why is genisoimage, a host executable part of the build result anyway?
1162020-07-18T08:41:31  <wumpus> fwiw I build using lxc on debian
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1292020-07-18T09:57:09  <wumpus> after a complete rebuild I also get 5c1f306192674c607bf44dad4a864e99fcfbef262934d19f93ea5af710595096 bitcoin-0.20.1rc1-osx-unsigned.tar.gz
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1392020-07-18T10:53:11  <fanquake> wumpus: good to know
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1562020-07-18T11:53:39  <hebasto> I've re-built 0.20.0 (point zero) with cache after 0.20.1 build and got different rezult
1572020-07-18T11:53:47  <hebasto> aae0b7e3a457a808335113f70448559d9d3b5414fa640e40f0ff7a31b390e2fa  bitcoin-0.20.0-osx-unsigned.tar.gz
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1622020-07-18T12:21:24  <hebasto> just re-built 0.20.0 (point zero) with *clear* cache and got aae0b7e3a457a808335113f70448559d9d3b5414fa640e40f0ff7a31b390e2fa  bitcoin-0.20.0-osx-unsigned.tar.gz
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1642020-07-18T12:22:18  <hebasto> it seems no gitian builder clears cache while building the previous 0.20.0 for macOS
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2042020-07-18T15:08:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #19547: doc: Update macOS cross compilation dependencies for Focal (master...200718-mac-dep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19547
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2082020-07-18T15:29:05  <achow101> genisoimage is part of the build result because it's needed to make the code signed dmg
2092020-07-18T15:30:18  <achow101> I wonder if it is a significant enough change to result in a different code-signed binary
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2132020-07-18T15:36:10  <hebasto> I wonder why genisoimage build is not deterministic
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2232020-07-18T16:27:10  <wumpus> achow101: I guess it would be possible to build genisoimage independently for the normal osx build and the signing, don't know how long it takes to build but can't be that bad?
2242020-07-18T16:28:27  <wumpus> I agree it should ideally not matter, but it seeems this binary that is built for the host is the source of non-determinism every time, is it built with debug info perhaps? the chance of non-determinism in debug info seems to be slightly larger than in the stripped code
2252020-07-18T16:29:22  <achow101> alternatively #19068 just removes it entirely, along with all of the other dmg building stuff
2262020-07-18T16:29:24  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19068 | build: Use a zip instead of dmg for macOS releases by fanquake · Pull Request #19068 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2272020-07-18T16:30:20  <wumpus> tthe difference doesn't result in a different dmg, btw
2282020-07-18T16:30:40  <achow101> interesting
2292020-07-18T16:31:20  <wumpus> but that doesn't say much, if you compile genisoimage with gcc 4 and gcc 5 you'll likely also not get a different result - the logic wlil be the same
2302020-07-18T16:31:36  <achow101> I think it makes sense to build that as needed, it'll just add to the build time of the signing step
2312020-07-18T16:32:00  <achow101> or maybe we can make another inputs package that isn't part of the gitian signed result
2322020-07-18T16:32:08  <wumpus> I know about #19068 but I don't think there is entirely agreement to stop with making dmgs in favor of zips
2332020-07-18T16:32:11  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19068 | build: Use a zip instead of dmg for macOS releases by fanquake · Pull Request #19068 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2342020-07-18T16:33:40  <wumpus> it is definitely the easiest option
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2512020-07-18T18:51:14  <jonasschnelli> macOS 0.20.1.rc1 signatues are up (windows as well)
2522020-07-18T18:51:34  <jonasschnelli> green light to build the code signed parts
2532020-07-18T18:52:50  <midnight> \o thanks
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2592020-07-18T19:09:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #19548: fuzz: add missing overrides to signature_checker (master...signature-checker-missing-overrides) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19548
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2962020-07-18T22:22:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fjahr opened pull request #19550: rpc: Add listindices RPC (master...index_rpc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19550
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