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 46 2020-09-14T03:53:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/be375b2206fe...ba4b3fbcf213
 47 2020-09-14T03:53:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b9c1a76 Pieter Wuille: Squashed 'src/secp256k1/' changes from 2ed54da18a..8ab24e8dad
 48 2020-09-14T03:53:13  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 894fb33 Pieter Wuille: Update src/secp256k1 subtree to upstream libsecp256k1
 49 2020-09-14T03:53:13  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ba4b3fb fanquake: Merge #19944: Update secp256k1 subtree (including BIP340 support)
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 52 2020-09-14T03:53:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #19944: Update secp256k1 subtree (including BIP340 support) (master...202009_secp256k1_schnorr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19944
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 61 2020-09-14T04:28:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa closed pull request #17977: Implement BIP 340-342 validation (Schnorr/taproot/tapscript) (master...taproot) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17977
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 71 2020-09-14T04:53:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #19953: Implement BIP 340-342 validation (Schnorr/taproot/tapscript) (master...taproot) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19953
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 73 2020-09-14T05:00:12  <aj> eek, github lets you click checkboxes in PRs and automatically edits them?
 74 2020-09-14T05:02:44  <sipa> yes
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 77 2020-09-14T05:03:04  <sipa> i don't think just anyone can click them, though
 78 2020-09-14T05:04:42  <aj> i guess you can just unclick it, but still
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 83 2020-09-14T05:17:49  <fanquake> aj: stop clicking all the buttons :p
 84 2020-09-14T05:19:07  <sipa> grr travis
 85 2020-09-14T05:19:16  <sipa> it somehow used the old commit branch to fetch from
 86 2020-09-14T05:19:29  <sipa> must be a very weird caching effect
 87 2020-09-14T05:20:16  <fanquake> Just another reason to never blindly trust "green ticks" and CIs
 88 2020-09-14T05:21:27  <aj> fanquake: i didn't think it was a button i was clicking!
 89 2020-09-14T05:33:36  <sipa> ok, fixed by pushing again it seems
 90 2020-09-14T05:38:05  <phantomcircuit> what? push all the buttons
 91 2020-09-14T05:38:33  <sipa> https://xkcd.com/722/
 92 2020-09-14T05:42:24  <phantomcircuit> sipa, is accurate
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 95 2020-09-14T05:54:16  <jeremyrubin> aj: all the noise on the lock annotations PRs makes me slightly hesitant on the epoch lock annotation patch fwiw; it seems like there's disagreement/confusion about what the annotations are or are not doing.
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118 2020-09-14T07:09:48  <kallewoof> very nathan pyle'esque
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125 2020-09-14T07:38:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild closed pull request #19929: sync: use proper TSA attributes (master...use_proper_tsa_attributes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19929
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139 2020-09-14T08:30:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ba4b3fbcf213...06dbbe76dd02
140 2020-09-14T08:30:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 812037c Pieter Wuille: Change CSipHasher's count variable to uint8_t
141 2020-09-14T08:30:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 06dbbe7 fanquake: Merge #19931: Change CSipHasher's count variable to uint8_t
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144 2020-09-14T08:31:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #19931: Change CSipHasher's count variable to uint8_t (master...202009_siphash_sillyness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19931
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308 2020-09-14T16:14:08  <jb55> achow101: is it possible to corrupt wallets when jumping between master and v0.20.1? trying to figure out how all my wallets got nuked
309 2020-09-14T16:14:29  <achow101> jb55: was it a descriptor wallet?
310 2020-09-14T16:15:27  <achow101> otherwise, they shouldn't be corrupted
311 2020-09-14T16:15:46  <jb55> well I loaded one to test, and obviously that failed to load when I went back. but I have really old wallets and wallets I've imported with importmulti. all of them have random keys in them now. its super weird: https://jb55.com/s/6ae99d5e19df80a3.png
312 2020-09-14T16:16:22  <jb55> all of them have private keys enabled as well even though they were all watch only before
313 2020-09-14T16:16:30  <jb55> if this is corruption its super weird no?
314 2020-09-14T16:16:47  <achow101> sounsd like the private keys disabled flag got lost somehow
315 2020-09-14T16:17:14  <achow101> which would be considered corruption
316 2020-09-14T16:17:35  <jb55> for some reason when I upgraded to 0.20.1 it redownloaded the entire blockchain and all my wallets are unrecognizable/didn't pick up any txs during rescan
317 2020-09-14T16:17:45  <jb55> something super weird going on
318 2020-09-14T16:17:52  <achow101> that seems like a datadir issue
319 2020-09-14T16:19:20  <jb55> guess I this gives me a change to reimport everything as descriptor wallets :P
320 2020-09-14T16:26:01  <sipa> wumpus: it seems 0.20.1 is not bitcoin.org yet? https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/Bitcoin.org/pull/3435
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340 2020-09-14T18:21:50  <phantomcircuit> jb55, did you build against the right version of bdb?
341 2020-09-14T18:22:20  <phantomcircuit> oh nvm that doesn't seem like a version mismatch
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345 2020-09-14T18:25:32  <jb55> I had the same thought but I didn't see any bdb updates between the nixpkgs revisions I updated
346 2020-09-14T18:27:29  <jb55> but the fact that the blockchain redownloaded and all my wallets are scrambled seems to point to something going very wrong on my zfs storage after I updated my kernel/nixpkgs. still haven't figured it out though
347 2020-09-14T18:28:09  <jb55> just surprised the wallets didn't fail to load and they're just filled with random keys I don't recognize =/
348 2020-09-14T18:31:34  <luke-jr> :|
349 2020-09-14T18:35:54  <phantomcircuit> jb55, is your zfs array mounted?
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351 2020-09-14T18:37:41  <jb55> phantomcircuit: what do you mean?
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354 2020-09-14T18:41:02  <sipa> jb55: i assume phantomcircuit means: is it possible you started bitcoind with the intended FS not mounted? if so, bitcoind would create fresh wallet(s)
355 2020-09-14T18:42:25  <jb55> sipa: oh that seems likely, since they all look like new wallets
356 2020-09-14T18:42:38  <jb55> now I'm wondering where the old ones went =/
357 2020-09-14T18:43:26  <sipa> it would also explain why your node is starting sync from scratch :)
358 2020-09-14T18:43:53  <phantomcircuit> jb55, often when upgrading kernels or zfs you can endup with zfs not actually loading filesystems or mounting them
359 2020-09-14T18:44:02  <phantomcircuit> sounds like that's what happened
360 2020-09-14T18:44:12  <jb55> well that's incredibly annoying
361 2020-09-14T18:44:15  <phantomcircuit> the files are still in zfs probably you just have to actually mount the fs
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363 2020-09-14T18:46:32  <sipa> solution: use ZFS as your root filesystem
364 2020-09-14T18:46:53  <sipa> that way it'll just fail to boot if something goes wrong
365 2020-09-14T18:47:09  <luke-jr> XD
366 2020-09-14T18:47:18  <sipa> (not joking, it's what i do)
367 2020-09-14T18:47:42  <luke-jr> or even if it's /home, nothing should autocreate the dirs per user
368 2020-09-14T18:47:50  <luke-jr> sipa: I also use ZFS for root
369 2020-09-14T18:48:09  <sipa> cool
370 2020-09-14T18:48:16  <jb55> I created a mountpoint /zbig/bitcoin on top of my /zbig hdd so that I could snapshot specifically that directory and none others. I think this is where I f'd up somehow
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372 2020-09-14T18:50:29  <jb55> I do use zfs for root as well on my ssd, but I don't think that was the issue here. definitely some mounting issue. thx guys
373 2020-09-14T18:50:51  <sipa> woah! github now lists commits in a PR in topological order?
374 2020-09-14T18:50:54  <sipa> when did that changer?
375 2020-09-14T18:50:59  <jb55> finalllyyy
376 2020-09-14T18:51:20  <sdaftuar> \o/
377 2020-09-14T18:52:47  <luke-jr> inb4 we are merely inside sipa's dream
378 2020-09-14T18:52:51  <sipa> https://github.blog/changelog/2020-07-14-pull-request-commits-now-ordered-chronologically/
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381 2020-09-14T18:53:25  <sipa> i guess by "chronological order in the head branch" they mean topological...
382 2020-09-14T18:53:55  <luke-jr> lol @ using chronological for the opposite
383 2020-09-14T18:54:54  <sipa> ah, i think it may mean it's sorting by the internal "CommitDate" value in commits, which is reset on rebasing
384 2020-09-14T18:55:11  <sipa> rather than the usually shown AuthorDate value, which is not normally rewritten
385 2020-09-14T18:55:33  <sdaftuar> so my commit-date-grinding tool might break this? doh.
386 2020-09-14T18:55:50  * sipa inspects sdaftuar's old commits
387 2020-09-14T18:55:53  <sdaftuar> (actually, now i don't remember what timestamp i was grinding on, i should check)
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389 2020-09-14T19:00:00  <sdaftuar> sweet, i was using AuthorDate, good to go
390 2020-09-14T19:03:34  <luke-jr> sdaftuar: grind? just set it.. :P
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392 2020-09-14T19:05:08  <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, presumably he was grinding the short id
393 2020-09-14T19:08:43  <sdaftuar> e.g https://github.com/sdaftuar/bitcoin/commit/daf12f23bff6033f76dfb4c66f6ea9e699e7992b
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395 2020-09-14T19:08:50  <sdaftuar> much better version of #19858 if you ask me
396 2020-09-14T19:09:03  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19858 | Periodically make block-relay connections and sync headers by sdaftuar · Pull Request #19858 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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398 2020-09-14T19:10:00  <sipa> what's ground about it? (that's the past tense of to grind, right?)
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400 2020-09-14T19:11:11  <sdaftuar> "daf..."
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402 2020-09-14T19:11:24  <sipa> ah!
403 2020-09-14T19:11:30  <sdaftuar> i think the "t" was going to be hard
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411 2020-09-14T19:54:13  <sipa> sdaftuar: i don't see any actual commits in the bitcoin/bitcoin history though
412 2020-09-14T19:54:18  <sipa> *like that
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437 2020-09-14T20:58:24  <sdaftuar> sipa: i guess this version of #15141 was never merged (though it would have been fun): https://github.com/sdaftuar/bitcoin/commits/15141.9
438 2020-09-14T20:58:28  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15141 | Rewrite DoS interface between validation and net_processing by sdaftuar · Pull Request #15141 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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449 2020-09-14T21:31:57  <phantomcircuit> sdaftuar, i thought grinding was relatively cheap?
450 2020-09-14T21:33:01  <sipa> it should just be SHA-1 hashing
451 2020-09-14T21:33:10  <sipa> of the entire commit body + headers, though
452 2020-09-14T21:35:58  <phantomcircuit> i guess to actually do it efficiently you'd need to be grinding something at the of the commit body
453 2020-09-14T21:42:21  <luke-jr> phantomcircuit: that's the commit message
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455 2020-09-14T21:43:42  <phantomcircuit> or make the entire headers + commit body less than 80 bytes
456 2020-09-14T21:43:57  <sipa> just end the commit with "Here is a random hex string! 2f3a531408d18276e183ab216c"
457 2020-09-14T21:43:59  <phantomcircuit> 40 bytes?
458 2020-09-14T21:44:07  <sipa> *message
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460 2020-09-14T21:45:34  <aj> sdaftuar: could use 5 as a standin for s?
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463 2020-09-14T21:48:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] n1rna opened pull request #19956: rpc: Improve invalid vout value rpc error message (master...rpc-invalid-vout-message) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19956
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466 2020-09-14T22:12:42  <yanmaani> What happened to the headers-only/SPV mode? (fClient)
467 2020-09-14T22:14:34  <aj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2161 ?
468 2020-09-14T22:17:56  <sipa> ?
469 2020-09-14T22:20:49  <emzy> how to request onion addresses from a dnsseed?
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472 2020-09-14T22:21:32  <sipa> emzy: they're just treated as IPv6 (using onioncat encoding)
473 2020-09-14T22:21:44  <sipa> i guess there could be a request flag for that
474 2020-09-14T22:21:55  * sipa makes mental note: crap, not compatible with torv3
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476 2020-09-14T22:22:01  <emzy> but how to request.
477 2020-09-14T22:22:10  <sipa> emzy: request AAAA records
478 2020-09-14T22:22:21  <emzy> sipa: I had that realisation also.
479 2020-09-14T22:22:22  <sipa> there is no special way to restrict just those
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481 2020-09-14T22:23:17  <sipa> emzy: on the other hand, when you're using bitcoin behind tor, you probably don't want to use dnsseeds in the first place, but addr_fetch nodes, which don't have that problem
482 2020-09-14T22:23:24  <emzy> dig -t aaaa x49.dnsseed.emzy.de
483 2020-09-14T22:24:04  <emzy> Yes I think there is a way to use dns with tor.
484 2020-09-14T22:24:18  <emzy> over tor.
485 2020-09-14T22:25:03  <luke-jr> what would tor do if we had a well-known onion privkey?
486 2020-09-14T22:25:19  <luke-jr> would it do a sane anycast?
487 2020-09-14T22:25:23  <emzy> btw. I have the import to bind working. I'm now setting up a test dns server.
488 2020-09-14T22:26:43  <sipa> emzy: if you use bitcoin core with -proxy, dns seeds are not used directly; instead, a connection is made to the NS name of the DNS seeds (which in case of tor causes the exit node to resolve it, pick a random result, and forward the connection there), and a getaddr is requested, and the connection is closed after getting a response
489 2020-09-14T22:27:29  <sipa> so in that scenario, the fact that dns seeds can't encode torv3 address isn't really a problem - the addr response will
490 2020-09-14T22:28:08  <emzy> I see.
491 2020-09-14T22:29:04  <sipa> luke-jr: https://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/13/can-a-hidden-service-be-hosted-by-multiple-instances-of-tor
492 2020-09-14T22:29:53  <luke-jr> sipa: sounds attackable
493 2020-09-14T22:29:59  <sipa> how so?
494 2020-09-14T22:30:55  <luke-jr> sipa: an attacker would just ensure his is publsihed most recently
495 2020-09-14T22:31:13  <sipa> luke-jr: you're not supposed to share private keys with other parties
496 2020-09-14T22:31:47  <sipa> i'm just answering what would answer if you did; i don't think it's a supported use case or advisable
497 2020-09-14T22:31:54  <sipa> s/answer/happen/
498 2020-09-14T22:46:14  <yanmaani> luke-jr: I don't think that would be stable.
499 2020-09-14T22:46:56  <yanmaani> If you want load balancing, there's onionbalance
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503 2020-09-14T23:02:23  <luke-jr> yanmaani: I want trustless anycast
504 2020-09-14T23:02:46  <luke-jr> yanmaani: route to any random node(s)
505 2020-09-14T23:03:53  <yanmaani> nope, that wouldn't work
506 2020-09-14T23:04:07  <yanmaani> For what purpose? Transaction broadcasting?
507 2020-09-14T23:06:20  <yanmaani> One approach to that would be to make all Bitcoin nodes connect to the BitTorrent DHT, then randomly enter the BitTorrent DHT by brute-forcing IPv4 IPs (<200 UDP packets on average), and then broadcast to them. Or you could have Bitcoin receive transactions on UDP, and just send them to 0.0.0.0/0:8333.
508 2020-09-14T23:08:10  <yanmaani> 2^32 * 250 / 100 MBit = 24h
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511 2020-09-14T23:18:34  <phantomcircuit> emzy, you can do all the dns requests over tcp over tor, but that's kind of insane
512 2020-09-14T23:22:03  <emzy> Why insane?
513 2020-09-14T23:22:21  <emzy> For torsocks docs: "torsocks can force the libc resolver to use TCP for name queries, if it does this it does it regardless of whether or not the DNS to be queried is local or not. This introduces overhead and should only be used when needed. "
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