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 22 2020-10-16T01:35:39  <aj> sipa: hmm, wouldn't it be better to have AreInputsStandard() return false for taproot spends prior to taproot actually activating? could pass down currentBlockScriptVerifyFlags to do that, I think?
 23 2020-10-16T01:39:49  <sipa> aj: there is no script validation flag that will reject a valid taproot spend
 24 2020-10-16T01:40:12  <sipa> one could be added, but that's a bit invasive... i'd rather do it through policy/policy.cpp alone
 25 2020-10-16T01:41:06  <sipa> aj: and yes, i suggest that (a) before activation is defined: creation is allowed, spending is not (b) while defined but unactivated: neither is allowed (c) when active, both are allowed
 26 2020-10-16T01:41:38  <sipa> an alternative - if we don't care about the theft protection - is making (b) identical to (a)
 27 2020-10-16T01:42:13  <aj> sipa: oh... maybe it was too early in the morning when i read what you were saying then, that sounds great
 28 2020-10-16T01:42:53  <sipa> and looking at implementation... (a) can easily be extended to "any situation in which it will never activate", including when it has failed
 29 2020-10-16T01:44:11  <sipa> one downside to have (a) and (b) have different behavior is that it introduces a trivial relay policy difference between nodes-with-activation and nodes-without-activation
 30 2020-10-16T01:44:35  <sipa> so if that's a concern, it should just be: whenever not active: creating allowed, spending not
 31 2020-10-16T01:45:19  <aj> there'll be a relay policy difference between (a) and (c) and (b)/(c) are the same nodes, so that seems fine?
 32 2020-10-16T01:45:48  <sipa> right, but we can expect that by the time activation happens, many nodes will have activation included
 33 2020-10-16T01:46:04  <sipa> so it's a synchronized event rather than dependent on upgrade time
 34 2020-10-16T01:48:25  <fanquake> Is anyone else seeing a number of the functional tests fail? https://gist.github.com/fanquake/f3df509a6f810a104b97a38753ef7a5a
 35 2020-10-16T01:48:38  <fanquake> Wondering if I've got some local issue
 36 2020-10-16T01:48:58  <aj> maybe make (b) while defined and in LOCKED_IN neither is allowed, would make it mostly safe and synchronised?
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 38 2020-10-16T01:50:30  <sipa> hmm, just have the theft protection while locked in and not yet activated?
 39 2020-10-16T01:50:59  <aj> sipa: yeah. so people spending to taproot a little early are protected
 40 2020-10-16T01:51:12  <aj> a little protected anyway
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 47 2020-10-16T03:26:32  <fanquake> Seems there is at least some unwanted interaction between #20080 and the functional tests. Unclear why Travis / tests don't seem to be failing for anyone else: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20080#issuecomment-709708344
 48 2020-10-16T03:26:34  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20080 | Strip any trailing `/` in -datadir path by hebasto · Pull Request #20080 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 50 2020-10-16T03:34:03  <kallewoof> promag_: I made https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13746 a few years ago. Closed it due to lack of interest, though, but it seems similar to what you're saying.
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 52 2020-10-16T03:36:06  <sipa> #13746
 53 2020-10-16T03:36:09  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13746 | -masterdatadir for datadir bootstrapping by kallewoof · Pull Request #13746 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 56 2020-10-16T03:38:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] riyasingh0799 opened pull request #20164: [test] undo truncation of digits in btc amount (master...rpc-testmempoolaccept-fee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20164
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 61 2020-10-16T04:06:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9ad7cd2887ab...cbb5f3a2d584
 62 2020-10-16T04:06:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cccc752 MarcoFalke: rpc: Properly deserialize txs with witness before signing
 63 2020-10-16T04:06:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3333077 MarcoFalke: rpc: Adjust witness-tx deserialize error message
 64 2020-10-16T04:06:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cbb5f3a fanquake: Merge #19836: rpc: Properly deserialize txs with witness before signing
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 67 2020-10-16T04:06:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #19836: rpc: Properly deserialize txs with witness before signing (master...2008-rpcDeserTxsWitness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19836
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 70 2020-10-16T04:23:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #20165: Only relay Taproot spends if next block has it active (master...202010_taproot_policy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20165
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 74 2020-10-16T04:29:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #20166: [0.20] Backports (0.20...more_020_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20166
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 78 2020-10-16T04:38:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #20091: doc: reflect the current status of Tor support. (master...pr-351-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20091
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 82 2020-10-16T04:45:56  <luke-jr> sipa: hmm, I wonder if, ideally, we would wait 100 blocks after activation to relay them
 83 2020-10-16T04:46:16  <luke-jr> similar to coinbase spends
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 85 2020-10-16T04:51:11  <sipa> luke-jr: what would that protect against?
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 87 2020-10-16T04:51:12  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #19635: param: add bool parameter -ephemeraltoronion to generate ephemeral tor addreses (master...ephemeral-tor-onion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19635
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 89 2020-10-16T04:52:06  <luke-jr> sipa: reorgs invalidating them with a miner theft
 90 2020-10-16T04:52:18  <luke-jr> sipa: downstream of the actual taproot spend
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 92 2020-10-16T04:52:43  <luke-jr> ie, a taproot spend is similar to a coinbase in that it can be claimed by any miner before the activation block
 93 2020-10-16T04:53:02  <aj> luke-jr: provided the pay-to-taproot tx has block height locktime, that's fine though
 94 2020-10-16T04:53:12  <sipa> luke-jr: that argument would apply to creation of outputs, not spending them
 95 2020-10-16T04:54:02  <luke-jr> aj: oh, that's true
 96 2020-10-16T04:54:29  <luke-jr> hmm, might have been interesting to have a consensus rule that taproot spends need a locktime after the activation height/time; probably also not worth the additional effort tho
 97 2020-10-16T04:54:57  <luke-jr> actually, that doesn't work
 98 2020-10-16T04:55:07  <luke-jr> because that rule wouldn't exist before activation either
 99 2020-10-16T04:55:30  <sipa> right
100 2020-10-16T04:55:43  <luke-jr> hmm… maybe it would anyway? since it'd be an invalid taproot spend normally
101 2020-10-16T04:56:14  <luke-jr> oh well, could just as well be a "wallets should do this" best practice
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103 2020-10-16T04:57:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #19419: wallet: let Listwalletdir do not iterate through our blocksdata. (master...wallet_351) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19419
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117 2020-10-16T06:28:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #20164: [test] undo truncation of digits in btc amount (master...rpc-testmempoolaccept-fee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20164
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126 2020-10-16T07:02:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cbb5f3a2d584...82d3596dfe4e
127 2020-10-16T07:02:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5669642 Pieter Wuille: docs: mention BIPs 340-342 in doc/bips.md
128 2020-10-16T07:02:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1d22300 Pieter Wuille: Address functional test nits
129 2020-10-16T07:02:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 82d3596 fanquake: Merge #20161: Minor Taproot follow-ups
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132 2020-10-16T07:02:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #20161: Minor Taproot follow-ups (master...202010_taproot_followup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20161
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141 2020-10-16T07:44:02  <hebasto> fanquake: is /private dir a travis artefact?
142 2020-10-16T07:44:31  <fanquake> hebasto: no that is on my macOS machine
143 2020-10-16T07:45:07  <hebasto> ok, going to reproduce on macOS
144 2020-10-16T07:47:19  <hebasto> fanquake: looks like kind of sandboxing
145 2020-10-16T07:48:17  <fanquake> hebasto: possibly, however I haven't looked further yet. Just noticed that the issue started occurring with the introduction of fs::canonical
146 2020-10-16T07:50:30  <hebasto> fanquake: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/1043/why-is-tmp-a-symlink-to-private-tmp
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148 2020-10-16T07:54:59  <fanquake> hebasto: I see
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171 2020-10-16T09:12:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/82d3596dfe4e...2947ae6f85d4
172 2020-10-16T09:12:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa64892 MarcoFalke: signet: Fix uninitialized read in validation
173 2020-10-16T09:12:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa729cd MarcoFalke: doc: Move assumed-values doxygen comments to header
174 2020-10-16T09:12:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa723e3 MarcoFalke: Initialize default-initialized uint256 consensus params to zero explicitly
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177 2020-10-16T09:13:01  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20035: signet: Fix uninitialized read in validation (master...2009-signetUninitRead) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20035
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179 2020-10-16T09:19:28  <hebasto> fanquake: thanks for pointing out
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186 2020-10-16T09:34:18  <provoostenator> When taproot (signet) wallet and descriptor support? :-)
187 2020-10-16T09:36:01  <kallewoof> Ohh.. I forgot about the fact we don't actually have wallet support. But people can still play with btcdeb I guess.
188 2020-10-16T09:43:34  <provoostenator> You can make raw transactions and send them with your own node.
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191 2020-10-16T09:45:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2947ae6f85d4...cb21d864c52b
192 2020-10-16T09:45:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1df2cd1 Luke Dashjr: QA: blocktools: Accept block template to create_block
193 2020-10-16T09:45:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d438d60 Luke Dashjr: QA: Use GBT to get block versions correct
194 2020-10-16T09:45:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cb21d86 MarcoFalke: Merge #19401: QA: Use GBT to get block versions correct
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197 2020-10-16T09:46:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #19401: QA: Use GBT to get block versions correct (master...qa_blockvers) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19401
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205 2020-10-16T10:23:47  <kallewoof> provoostenator: that too yeah
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212 2020-10-16T10:47:33  <hebasto> please consider GUI repo pulls for 0.21.0 -- https://github.com/users/hebasto/projects/5
213 2020-10-16T10:48:14  <hebasto> wumpus: MarcoFalke: promag: provoostenator: luke-jr: ^
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215 2020-10-16T10:52:48  <hebasto> jonasschnelli: ^^
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225 2020-10-16T11:32:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20167: test: Add test for -blockversion (master...2010-testBlockversion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20167
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228 2020-10-16T11:51:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20168: contrib: Fix gen_key_io_test_vectors.py imports (master...2010-contribTestGen) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20168
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235 2020-10-16T12:11:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cb21d864c52b...9e8d2bd076d7
236 2020-10-16T12:11:29  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0d9d2a1 Jonas Schnelli: Only update the updateSmartFeeLabel once in sync
237 2020-10-16T12:11:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9e8d2bd MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#97: Relax GUI freezes during IBD (when using wallet...
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248 2020-10-16T12:54:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #20169: Taproot follow-up: Make ComputeEntrySchnorr and ComputeEntryECDSA const to clarify contract (master...const-ComputeEntrySchnorr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20169
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285 2020-10-16T15:54:45  <jamesob> I don't seem to be able to kick jobs on Travis anymore; can someone rerun https://travis-ci.org/github/bitcoin/bitcoin/jobs/736379874 for me?
286 2020-10-16T15:55:13  <hebasto> jamesob: done
287 2020-10-16T15:55:22  <jamesob> hebasto: thanks!
288 2020-10-16T15:55:31  <hebasto> try to log off/on
289 2020-10-16T15:56:56  <jamesob> ah yep, that did it. thanks again hebasto
290 2020-10-16T15:57:16  <hebasto> yw
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304 2020-10-16T16:48:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ariard opened pull request #20171: Add functional test test_txid_inv_delay (master...2020-10-txid-delay-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20171
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336 2020-10-16T20:56:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #20172: rpc, net: Expose connections_onion_only in getnetworkinfo RPC output (master...201016-tor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20172
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