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 10 2020-11-09T00:49:21  <andytoshi> achow101: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20347 i'm not crazy :P
 11 2020-11-09T00:49:24  <andytoshi> lol what a waste of a sunday
 12 2020-11-09T00:50:10  <sipa> sounds like a very useful sunday
 13 2020-11-09T00:53:07  <andytoshi> hehe, i did actually learn a lot about core
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 18 2020-11-09T01:02:16  <achow101> I think you've run into why everyone is afraid of changing coin selection. the logic is too hard to follow
 19 2020-11-09T01:03:06  <sipa> it's probably a good reason to justify changes
 20 2020-11-09T01:03:36  <sipa> the existing logic is a painful mess, but at least my impression was that it was very unlikely to actually fuck up
 21 2020-11-09T01:04:59  <andytoshi> i mean, this is a real corner case, achow and i weren't sure if we could make it trigger without simulating weird fee behavior, and even then
 22 2020-11-09T01:05:49  <andytoshi> what's surprising is that it is a "coin selection" bug which is entirely outside of SelectCoins, it's the retry-loop in CreateTransaction
 23 2020-11-09T01:06:13  <achow101> unfortunately CreateTransaction is considered part of coin selection behavior because of the loop
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 70 2020-11-09T05:33:47  <fanquake> wumpus / sipa: may just want to block kengendron251
 71 2020-11-09T05:42:08  <sipa> fanquake: going to wait
 72 2020-11-09T05:42:19  <sipa> his last message made it sound like a mistake
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102 2020-11-09T08:16:36  <wumpus> what did they do? looking at the profile it's either a spammer or a 12 year old :)
103 2020-11-09T08:17:58  <fanquake> Posted a bit of spammy crap, but now it also seems like they've managed to subscribe to the repo, and can't figure out how to unsubscribe.
104 2020-11-09T08:18:59  <aj> deleted comment from 20317 says "I was on this planet well before the computer" so rules out the 12yo theory? :)
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112 2020-11-09T08:25:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ajtowns opened pull request #20353: configure: Support -fdebug-prefix-map (master...202011-ccache-debug-prefix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20353
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186 2020-11-09T14:07:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faa2f06 MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: [build] Ensure source tarball has leading directory name
187 2020-11-09T14:07:08  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f70eb51 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #20318: build: Ensure source tarball has leading directory name
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190 2020-11-09T14:07:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20318: build: Ensure source tarball has leading directory name (master...2011-buildTar) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20318
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195 2020-11-09T14:15:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f70eb51b05de...663fd92b28c3
196 2020-11-09T14:15:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bd93fc9 Andrew Chow: Fix change detection of imported internal descriptors
197 2020-11-09T14:15:27  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 663fd92 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #20266: wallet: fix change detection of imported internal descriptor...
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200 2020-11-09T14:15:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20266: wallet: fix change detection of imported internal descriptors (master...fix-desc-change) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20266
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211 2020-11-09T14:33:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 6 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/663fd92b28c3...05aeeee34f15
212 2020-11-09T14:33:29  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fafce1a MarcoFalke: ci: Move documentation to correct config file
213 2020-11-09T14:33:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa0795f MarcoFalke: ci: Replace TRAVIS_OS_NAME with CI_OS_NAME
214 2020-11-09T14:33:31  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa8b111 MarcoFalke: ci: Run arm ci config on cirrus
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217 2020-11-09T14:33:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20339: ci: Run more ci configs on cirrus (master...2011-moreCirrus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20339
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223 2020-11-09T14:47:40  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa762a3 MarcoFalke: test: Remove unused unnamed parameter from block.serialize call
224 2020-11-09T14:47:41  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa1dea1 MarcoFalke: test: Fix deser issue in create_block
225 2020-11-09T14:47:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fac865b MarcoFalke: test: Fix intermittent feature_taproot issue
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228 2020-11-09T14:47:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20292: test: Fix intermittent feature_taproot issue (master...2011-testFixes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20292
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234 2020-11-09T14:59:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20354: test: Add feature_taproot.py --previous_release (master...2010-testFeatureTaprootPreviousVersion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20354
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254 2020-11-09T15:36:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #20355: fuzz: Check for addrv1 compatibility before using addrv1 serializer/deserializer on CSubNet (master...fix-sub_net_deserialize) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20355
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272 2020-11-09T16:08:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4fd37d0a104f...79a3b59cc706
273 2020-11-09T16:08:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ba8997f Jon Atack: net: update GetNetworkName() with all enum Network cases
274 2020-11-09T16:08:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9a75e1e Jon Atack: rpc: update GetNetworksInfo() to not return unsupported networks
275 2020-11-09T16:08:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7b5bd31 Jon Atack: test: add getnetworkinfo network name regression tests
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278 2020-11-09T16:08:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20120: net, rpc, test, bugfix: update GetNetworkName, GetNetworksInfo, regression tests (master...fix-getnetworkinfo-empty-networks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20120
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297 2020-11-09T17:54:46  <real_or_random> can we reopen https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17802 ? I think this needs action before the end of the year.
298 2020-11-09T17:55:27  <sipa> MarcoFalke: ping ^
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303 2020-11-09T18:12:09  <az0re> Hey all, just want to point out the totally broken fee estimator
304 2020-11-09T18:12:12  <az0re> !mempool
305 2020-11-09T18:12:12  <gribble> Mempool info: [txcount: 3127, vsize (MB): 7.3364238739, totalfee (BTC): 1.01938529] | Next block 0: [max fee: 12773.8128079, min fee: 1.00305810398] | Next block 1: [max fee: 1.00303951368, min fee: 1.0013713851] | Next block 2: [max fee: 1.00137059849, min fee: 1.001347601]
306 2020-11-09T18:12:37  <az0re> My current mempool histogram shows:
307 2020-11-09T18:12:39  <az0re> [[236, 101197], [205, 109178], [15, 123943], [8, 135543], [1, 7467948]]
308 2020-11-09T18:13:10  <az0re> This is while the mempool has deflated from ~40MB 12 hours ago to ~8MB now
309 2020-11-09T18:13:14  <sipa> who runs gribble these days?
310 2020-11-09T18:13:18  <sipa> nanotube?
311 2020-11-09T18:14:01  <az0re> Not sure
312 2020-11-09T18:14:09  <az0re> Here's what estimatesmartfee gives me:
313 2020-11-09T18:14:11  <az0re> user@host:~$ ./bitcoin-0.20.1/bin/bitcoin-cli -rpcuser=user --rpcpassword=... estimatesmartfee 1 CONSERVATIVE
314 2020-11-09T18:14:12  <az0re> {
315 2020-11-09T18:14:12  <az0re>   "feerate": 0.00231653,
316 2020-11-09T18:14:12  <az0re>   "blocks": 2
317 2020-11-09T18:14:12  <az0re> }
318 2020-11-09T18:14:13  <az0re> user@host:~$ ./bitcoin-0.20.1/bin/bitcoin-cli -rpcuser=user --rpcpassword=... estimatesmartfee 10 CONSERVATIVE
319 2020-11-09T18:14:18  <az0re> {
320 2020-11-09T18:14:21  <az0re>   "feerate": 0.00231653,
321 2020-11-09T18:14:22  <az0re>   "blocks": 10
322 2020-11-09T18:14:24  <az0re> }
323 2020-11-09T18:14:26  <az0re> user@host:~$ ./bitcoin-0.20.1/bin/bitcoin-cli -rpcuser=user --rpcpassword=... estimatesmartfee 10 ECONOMICAL
324 2020-11-09T18:14:29  <az0re> {
325 2020-11-09T18:14:31  <az0re>   "feerate": 0.00013714,
326 2020-11-09T18:14:33  <az0re>   "blocks": 10
327 2020-11-09T18:14:35  <az0re> }
328 2020-11-09T18:14:37  <az0re> user@host:~$ ./bitcoin-0.20.1/bin/bitcoin-cli -rpcuser=user --rpcpassword=... estimatesmartfee 1 ECONOMICAL
329 2020-11-09T18:14:41  <az0re> {
330 2020-11-09T18:14:42  <az0re>   "feerate": 0.00199988,
331 2020-11-09T18:14:45  <az0re>   "blocks": 2
332 2020-11-09T18:14:49  <az0re> }
333 2020-11-09T18:15:08  <az0re> both ECONOMICAL and CONSERVATIVE suggest *way* too high fees, and I suspect that estimatesmartfee is creating its own reality here: It's suggesting high fees, and so the mempool gets a bunch of really high fee txes, and so the estimator keeps suggesting really high fees
334 2020-11-09T18:15:20  <az0re> However, txes are clearing at way, way lower feerates
335 2020-11-09T18:15:50  <sipa> az0re: that's kind of expected; the estimator does not look at the mempool, but only at the rates of which feerates confirm
336 2020-11-09T18:15:51  <az0re> And if all installed estimators suddenly cut their suggested feerates 10x I suspect nothing would change but people saving a TON on tx fees
337 2020-11-09T18:16:06  <sipa> so it's inherently delayed
338 2020-11-09T18:16:23  <az0re> sipa: Looking at the rates of which feerates confirm should *also* result in a much lower suggested fee
339 2020-11-09T18:16:57  <az0re> In the last 12h I've cleared--in one block--some txes with feerates as low as 3 sat/vbyte
340 2020-11-09T18:18:41  <sipa> interesting
341 2020-11-09T18:19:40  <az0re> There is more historical mempool/feerate estimate data available here: https://github.com/0e319b6/feerate-estimate-data
342 2020-11-09T18:19:51  <az0re> This is far from the only time I've noticed wildly excessive estimated fees
343 2020-11-09T18:20:56  <az0re> !fees
344 2020-11-09T18:20:57  <gribble> Fee estimates (blocks: fee): (2: 68.414),(4: 8.898), (6: 3.319), (10: 1.138), (20: 1.138), (144: 1.138)
345 2020-11-09T18:21:36  <az0re> OK, no idea how these estimates are calculated, but the super sharp drop off is a red flag
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347 2020-11-09T18:22:44  <sipa> may be worth opening an issue for
348 2020-11-09T18:37:00  <darosior> az0re: it's expected. It's possible, but there are not historically enough of them for the estimator to choose this bucket.
349 2020-11-09T18:38:06  <darosior> For example, if you had a new mode -say RECKLESS- with far less probability than ECONOMICAL, then it'd probably give you these estimations.
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352 2020-11-09T18:53:22  <az0re> darosior: "not historically enough of them" -- of what?
353 2020-11-09T18:59:51  <phantomcircuit> az0re, the problem is that setting the fee rate too high is a known cost, setting it too low tends to result in people with transactions that are stuck
354 2020-11-09T19:00:00  <phantomcircuit> the latter being much worse for 90% of people
355 2020-11-09T19:00:36  <az0re> phantomcircuit: I totally understand that, and I totally understand being conservative.  However:
356 2020-11-09T19:00:55  <az0re> 1.  Isn't this why there is CONSERVATIVE and ECONOMICAL?  `1 ECONOMICAL` in this case really should not be giving me 200 sat/vbyte!
357 2020-11-09T19:01:24  <az0re> 2.  We should still see a smooth drop off.  But `1 CONSERVATIVE` and `10 CONSERVATIVE` are identical.
358 2020-11-09T19:01:48  <az0re> And it extends beyond 1 and 10; very frequently I see huge swathes of the estimates sitting at exactly the same feerate
359 2020-11-09T19:02:32  <az0re> If `1 CONSERVATIVE` gave 200, `10 CONSERVATIVE` gave 40, and `1 ECONOMICAL` gave 20 I would have nothing to complain about
360 2020-11-09T19:04:35  <az0re> <phantomcircuit> [...] result in people with transactions that are stuck
361 2020-11-09T19:04:43  <az0re> Also, isn't this why RBF is a thing? :)
362 2020-11-09T19:05:29  <az0re> I understand that doesn't necessarily solve the problem in all cases, but it should reduce the caution for suggesting too-low feerates, especially for ECONOMICAL
363 2020-11-09T19:07:09  <az0re> Finally, I will stop spamming after this I swear, but the bimodal distribution of the mempool seems fundamentally broken to me.  In my idealized vision of the world, there would be monotonically increasing mempool pressure with decreasing feerate.
364 2020-11-09T19:07:42  <az0re> The current structure suggests to me that the auction mechanics of the mempool are not really working correctly
365 2020-11-09T19:14:04  <queip> long term, would bitcoind start with 1s/vb and then in background keep slowly RBFing it until it works? In transaction you would specify how much you want to wait, how much you can wait, and absolute limit (so before it it sets very max fee) and the max fee
366 2020-11-09T19:15:34  <queip> e.g. dust consolidations would be like 144,1440,6000, 100[s/vb]   while regular onchain shopping could be 3,6,24,1000 for example
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368 2020-11-09T19:19:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/79a3b59cc706...1dfe19e2840b
369 2020-11-09T19:19:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 538be42 Ivan Metlushko: wallet: fix importdescriptor silent fail
370 2020-11-09T19:19:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1dfe19e Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #20153: wallet: do not import a descriptor with hardened derivations...
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373 2020-11-09T19:19:57  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20153: wallet: do not import a descriptor with hardened derivations into a watch-only wallet (master...importdesc_silent_fail) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20153
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375 2020-11-09T19:20:42  <nanotube> sipa: yes, i still run gribble. mempool command fetches data from mempool.space
376 2020-11-09T19:22:17  <nanotube> az0re: fees command pulls from blockstream.info api
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380 2020-11-09T20:13:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #20357: ci: Use travis_fold on Travis CI only (master...201109-travis) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20357
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385 2020-11-09T20:29:32  <kanzure> are we using git read-tree or subtree for libsecp256k1?
386 2020-11-09T20:30:30  <sipa> git subtree; i don't know what git read-tree is
387 2020-11-09T20:30:48  <kanzure> is the usage of subtree documented? i'm thinking about extracting test_framework into a python package.
388 2020-11-09T20:30:58  <kanzure> and i would like to preserve commit history if possible
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390 2020-11-09T20:32:21  <luke-jr> that's the opposite direction..
391 2020-11-09T20:33:10  <sipa> subtree can preserve history afaik
392 2020-11-09T20:33:14  <sipa> when splitting off a tree
393 2020-11-09T20:35:19  <kanzure> opposite direction should be ok
394 2020-11-09T20:36:21  <sipa> git subtree split may do what you want
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398 2020-11-09T20:39:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ffontaine opened pull request #20358: src/randomenv.cpp: fix build on uclibc (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20358
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407 2020-11-09T22:01:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #20359: depends: Various config.site.in improvements and linting  (master...2020-11-config-site-cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20359
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429 2020-11-09T23:30:44  <stevenroose> I'm reading "A heap is used so that not all items need sorting if only a few are being sent." in net_processing.cpp.
430 2020-11-09T23:31:05  <stevenroose> I don't understand how the C++ heap implementation works I think, does it order lazily?
431 2020-11-09T23:31:54  <sipa> stevenroose: the STL implementation shouldn't matter
432 2020-11-09T23:32:22  <sipa> it constructs a heap in O(n) time from the input elements
433 2020-11-09T23:32:38  <sipa> then you can extract the top element from it in O(log n) time
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436 2020-11-09T23:34:03  <sipa> so if you only need m elements, it's O(n + m*log(n)) work
437 2020-11-09T23:34:17  <sipa> while full sorting would need O(n*log(n)) work
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439 2020-11-09T23:45:37  <stevenroose> oooh, I'm reading that's just the way a heap works, didn't know that. didn't know it had those properties, fancy
440 2020-11-09T23:46:10  <sipa> yeah, it actually more of a priority queue algorithm than a sorting algorithm
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442 2020-11-09T23:46:55  <sipa> heapsort is first structuring the input into a heap, and then iteratively extracting the top level, shrinking the heap, and using the new space to put the extracted element
443 2020-11-09T23:47:01  <sipa> *top element
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446 2020-11-09T23:50:46  <meshcollider> real_or_random: done ^
447 2020-11-09T23:54:22  * luke-jr wonders where the generational gap is between "computers take time to do things" and "wtf? why isn't it done yet?"
448 2020-11-09T23:56:35  <stevenroose> sipa: thanks
449 2020-11-09T23:59:00  <luke-jr> (I didn't learn to care about optimisation until maybe ~18yo or so)