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 38 2021-01-14T02:14:18  <achow101> jonasschnelli: 0.21.0 MacOS code signature pls
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 81 2021-01-14T07:44:57  <jonasschnelli> will do the 0.21.0 signature macOS now
 82 2021-01-14T07:53:02  <gleb> sdaftuar: I was reviewing disabletx, and I didn't get why we don't use a positive "sendtx/enabletx" message instead. Since I'm a bit late to the party, I was wondering if this was discussed at some point, so I wanted to ask here instead of adding noise to the PR.
 83 2021-01-14T07:53:47  <gleb> Also, in the BIP, "For nearly the past year" ages poorly in the context of the BIP document I think :)
 84 2021-01-14T07:58:01  <sipa> gleb: i assume part of the reason is that the positive form is implied now (you can't assume sokeone doesn't want transactions unless they tell you)
 85 2021-01-14T07:58:36  <aj> gleb, sipa: here's kindof what i'm thinking re: switching towards something more opt-in https://gist.github.com/ajtowns/9703e8ff518fbf57c381f3eb3d6c2ca1
 86 2021-01-14T07:58:55  <gleb> Well, since there is a version change, we can start assuming the opposite starting 70017
 87 2021-01-14T07:59:22  <sipa> it's slightly different for a hypthetical equivalent for addr relay... as there it seems we'd like to assume/infer that some peers don't want some types of ip addresses (and having an explicit "i do want ipv17 addresses")
 88 2021-01-14T08:00:14  <sipa> gleb: i think that's a fairly strong break with how p2p versions have historically been used (only for enabling new messages, but only negotiate actual behavior change through specific messages)
 89 2021-01-14T08:02:05  <sipa> but yes, you could say as of some version everything is default off, and anything you will use must be announced ahead of time
 90 2021-01-14T08:02:13  <sipa> that's what aj seema to suggest, actually
 91 2021-01-14T08:02:22  <gleb> sipa: Personally I have no problem with breaking that kind of historical behavior (maybe I just don't understand something), but I see why people might want to keep it.
 92 2021-01-14T08:02:56  <aj> gleb: it's a bigger change than strictly necessary
 93 2021-01-14T08:03:32  <gleb> Good point.
 94 2021-01-14T08:04:41  <sipa> gleb: the practical concern would say: say in v70018 a fancy new feature is added to the protocol, which a certain implementation needs... but now they're forced to make a somewhat more invasive change to accomodate this  opting in to everything
 95 2021-01-14T08:05:33  <aj> sipa: maybe that's a good reason for the opt-in to be 80000; that way opt-in only at version 70018, 19, 20, .. works for a bunch of features in the meantime
 96 2021-01-14T08:05:45  <sipa> it's easy to reconcile that though, i think: as long as one feature negotiation message is sent, everyrhing else is iff; if you send none, it is interpreted as some historical defaukt set
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101 2021-01-14T08:52:09  <jonasschnelli> gitian builders: 0.21.0 detached signatures are ready. Start your builders.
102 2021-01-14T09:01:14  <sipa> on it
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105 2021-01-14T09:05:35  <wumpus> on it too, thanks for pushing the sigs so quickly
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111 2021-01-14T09:22:39  <jonasschnelli> As for ##bitcoin-core-gui ... the mode is wrong. It should not be on invite (achow101 luke-jr). Will fix now.
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115 2021-01-14T09:32:11  <jonasschnelli> ##bitcoin-core-gui has the correct mode now
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118 2021-01-14T09:35:33  <jonatack> jonasschnelli: thanks, it's open again for me
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120 2021-01-14T09:41:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20931: doc: Add historic 0.21.0 release notes (master...2101-docArchiveRelNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20931
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123 2021-01-14T09:47:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cb2c57845177...ad571bd354cb
124 2021-01-14T09:47:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faea902 MarcoFalke: doc: Add historic 0.21.0 release notes
125 2021-01-14T09:47:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ad571bd Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #20931: doc: Add historic 0.21.0 release notes
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128 2021-01-14T09:48:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20931: doc: Add historic 0.21.0 release notes (master...2101-docArchiveRelNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20931
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131 2021-01-14T09:49:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kiminuo opened pull request #20932: Introduce fsbridge::AbsPathJoin(base, p). (master...feature/fs-AbsPathJoin) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20932
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136 2021-01-14T09:54:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20933: [0.21] doc: Archive release notes, Add template for minor release (0.21...2101-docBackport) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20933
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143 2021-01-14T10:08:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ad571bd354cb...29d2aeb4a2b1
144 2021-01-14T10:08:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa75d40 MarcoFalke: fuzz: Introduce CallOneOf helper to replace switch-case
145 2021-01-14T10:08:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 29d2aeb MarcoFalke: Merge #20828: fuzz: Introduce CallOneOf helper to replace switch-case
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148 2021-01-14T10:09:12  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20828: fuzz: Introduce CallOneOf helper to replace switch-case (master...2012-fuzzCallOneOf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20828
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153 2021-01-14T10:31:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to 0.21: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/95ea54ba0896...7d8a10a6f4d6
154 2021-01-14T10:31:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 b6d3502 MarcoFalke: doc: Archive release notes, Add template for minor release
155 2021-01-14T10:31:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 7d8a10a Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #20933: [0.21] doc: Archive release notes, Add template for minor re...
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158 2021-01-14T10:32:01  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20933: [0.21] doc: Archive release notes, Add template for minor release (0.21...2101-docBackport) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20933
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166 2021-01-14T11:02:43  <aj> MarcoFalke: does bitcoin-util/gitian work better if bitcoin-util.cpp has #include <atomic> ?
167 2021-01-14T11:03:31  <MarcoFalke> Haven't tried it. I'll let the build people figure it out :)
168 2021-01-14T11:03:45  <MarcoFalke> fanquake: ^ :)))
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170 2021-01-14T11:12:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack reopened pull request #20546: policy, wallet, refactor: check for non-representable CFeeRates (master...non-representable-CFeeRate-check) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20546
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180 2021-01-14T11:37:30  <fanquake> aj: I have the solution for the reloc section issue for you
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187 2021-01-14T12:24:28  <jonasschnelli> sipa: does it matter if we draw the poly1305 key or the 3 byte length encryption first from the ChaCha20 metadata stream?
188 2021-01-14T12:24:50  <jonasschnelli> For the implementation, going with the 3 byte length encryption first would be simpler
189 2021-01-14T12:33:41  <aj> jnewbery: what do you think of a "p2p agenda/priorities" page on the devwiki, that's just "current status" rather than an "rss feed/log" like the p2p meeting page is? be a nice place to capture/update todo lists, and could serve as an agenda each week (for both overall priorities and a hashtag-proposedp2pmeetingtopic thing) ?
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191 2021-01-14T12:41:44  <Kiminuo> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20932 + @cirrus-ci
192 2021-01-14T12:41:44  <Kiminuo> Win64 (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20932/checks?check_run_id=1700991165). Can anyone help me understand why building fails (only) for Win64?
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199 2021-01-14T12:56:00  <wumpus> provoostenator: please whitelist magnet:?xt=urn:btih:665c5bdc6f49948e47c1098d91ace98bd216150e&dn=bitcoin-core-0.21.0
200 2021-01-14T12:57:04  <wumpus> Kiminuo: strange!
201 2021-01-14T12:57:56  <wumpus> I don't really understand it either
202 2021-01-14T12:58:01  <Kiminuo> wumpus, I have tried to build on a Win64 machine (in MSVS) and it really fails to build
203 2021-01-14T12:58:21  <Kiminuo> So that's probably worse than "Cirrus behaves weird"
204 2021-01-14T12:58:29  <Kiminuo> and something is probably really broken.
205 2021-01-14T12:58:59  <wumpus> I don't see anything in the code change that looks out of place; it could be a linker order issue with libraries in the makefile, but why it doesn't happen for anything else in fs.cpp would be a good question
206 2021-01-14T12:59:24  <Kiminuo> yeah, that confuses me too
207 2021-01-14T13:08:11  <jonatack> Kiminuo: naive question, are backslashes universally ok in the doxygen?
208 2021-01-14T13:08:46  <jnewbery> aj: I think it's a good idea. Do you think it's better to put it on the same page or a different wiki page?
209 2021-01-14T13:10:12  <Kiminuo> jonatack, I did my best to write that doxygen comment but given that I don't have any experience with this type of documentation, I can't answer your question
210 2021-01-14T13:10:22  <Kiminuo> I would love to see the result rendered too
211 2021-01-14T13:10:57  <jonatack> Kiminuo: was just wondering if it could be some esoteric thing throwing off the compiler, i've seen stranger
212 2021-01-14T13:12:13  <Kiminuo> jonatack, I see your point. I can try to remove that comment to see if something changes
213 2021-01-14T13:14:33  <aj> jnewbery: different
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215 2021-01-14T13:25:23  <Kiminuo> haha
216 2021-01-14T13:25:47  <Kiminuo> it's INSIDE "#ifndef WIN32"
217 2021-01-14T13:26:06  <Kiminuo> jonatack, time to laugh ;)
218 2021-01-14T13:41:45  <wumpus> 🤦
219 2021-01-14T13:41:51  <wumpus> well at least i'm happy it was simple
220 2021-01-14T13:45:39  <aj> it's hard to make forward progress through your review queue when people reply to your comments :(
221 2021-01-14T13:46:57  <aj> or maybe my problem is it's a review stack and not a review queue!
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225 2021-01-14T13:52:11  <jonatack> Kiminuo: great!  *unclutches straws
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228 2021-01-14T14:04:15  <fanquake> wumpus: congrats on another release 🚀
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250 2021-01-14T15:36:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/29d2aeb4a2b1...f91587f050d9
251 2021-01-14T15:36:18  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 85cc6be gzhao408: lock annotations for MemPoolAccept functions
252 2021-01-14T15:36:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2f463f5 gzhao408: [doc] for CheckInputsFromMempoolAndCache
253 2021-01-14T15:36:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f91587f fanquake: Merge #20834: locks and docs in ATMP and CheckInputsFromMempoolAndCache
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256 2021-01-14T15:36:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #20834: locks and docs in ATMP and CheckInputsFromMempoolAndCache (master...2021-01-validation-cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20834
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260 2021-01-14T15:38:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift reopened pull request #20089: validation: Increase robustness when loading malformed mempool.dat files (LoadMempool) (master...load-mempool-robustness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20089
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263 2021-01-14T15:40:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #20089: validation: Increase robustness when loading malformed mempool.dat files (LoadMempool) (master...load-mempool-robustness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20089
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266 2021-01-14T15:49:34  <jnewbery> aj: ACK. If you create the first version of the page I can link to it from the p2p meeting page, and I'll add my own priorities
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268 2021-01-14T15:58:15  <prusnak> congratulations on the 0.21.0 release!
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273 2021-01-14T16:24:50  <vasild> MarcoFalke: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20845 -- "incoming onions are also treated as local peers and should thus not be excepted..."
274 2021-01-14T16:25:29  <vasild> there may be "normal" local peers and "onion" peers that look like local, do we want to log all of them with LogPrint(BCLog::NET?
275 2021-01-14T16:25:40  <vasild> both types
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277 2021-01-14T16:26:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] danben opened pull request #20936: build: build fuzz tests by default (master...build-fuzz-tests-by-default) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20936
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279 2021-01-14T16:26:21  <vasild> from the description it looks to me that the intention is to only LogPrint(BCLog::NET the onion peers
280 2021-01-14T16:26:45  <vasild> but this is not what the patch does
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310 2021-01-14T18:22:51  <MarcoFalke> vasild: It probably hurts more to log onion unconditionally than it does to log "normal local peers" with the category only
311 2021-01-14T18:23:24  <MarcoFalke> See also https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20724#discussion_r553046139
312 2021-01-14T18:24:19  <MarcoFalke> quote: "log [...] of manual connections too -- though would need to do something cleverer"
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314 2021-01-14T18:25:01  <MarcoFalke> Once we have agreement and a solution to log manual connections unconditionally throughout net for misbehavior/disconnect, we can also fine tune for "normal local peers"
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318 2021-01-14T19:00:07  <jnewbery> moot?
319 2021-01-14T19:01:26  <jonasschnelli> miit?
320 2021-01-14T19:03:00  <sipa> Beech, oak, chestnut, ash... Good, good, good. Many have come.
321 2021-01-14T19:03:20  <wumpus> #startmeeting
322 2021-01-14T19:03:21  <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 14 19:03:20 2021 UTC.  The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
323 2021-01-14T19:03:21  <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
324 2021-01-14T19:03:21  <jnewbery> woah don't be so hasty there sipa
325 2021-01-14T19:03:25  <kanzure> hi
326 2021-01-14T19:03:27  <jonatack> hi
327 2021-01-14T19:03:28  <emzy> hi
328 2021-01-14T19:03:31  <jnewbery> hi
329 2021-01-14T19:03:33  <jonasschnelli> hi
330 2021-01-14T19:03:36  <fjahr> hi
331 2021-01-14T19:03:39  <hebasto> hi
332 2021-01-14T19:03:42  <sipa> hi
333 2021-01-14T19:03:43  <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard bluematt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik
334 2021-01-14T19:03:45  <wumpus> petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild wumpus
335 2021-01-14T19:03:52  <achow101> hi
336 2021-01-14T19:03:57  <sipa> congrats on 0.21 everyone!
337 2021-01-14T19:04:07  <wumpus> yes, congrats on the release
338 2021-01-14T19:04:24  <jnewbery> congrats everyone!
339 2021-01-14T19:04:28  <emzy> \o/
340 2021-01-14T19:04:28  <wumpus> no proposed meeting topics in http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt
341 2021-01-14T19:04:34  <MarcoFalke> \o/
342 2021-01-14T19:04:44  <fjahr> \o/
343 2021-01-14T19:04:49  <wumpus> any last-minute topics ?
344 2021-01-14T19:05:18  <MarcoFalke> I'd like to add #20715  to high prio :)
345 2021-01-14T19:05:20  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20715 | util: Add ArgsManager::GetCommand() and use it in bitcoin-wallet by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #20715 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
346 2021-01-14T19:06:07  <jonatack> #20391 for me, please
347 2021-01-14T19:06:09  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20391 | wallet: introduce setfeerate (an improved settxfee, in sat/vB) by jonatack · Pull Request #20391 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
348 2021-01-14T19:06:19  <wumpus> #topic High priority for review
349 2021-01-14T19:06:19  <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
350 2021-01-14T19:06:24  <fjahr> #19145 for me please
351 2021-01-14T19:06:26  <wumpus> we weren't there yet :)
352 2021-01-14T19:06:27  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19145 | Add hash_type MUHASH for gettxoutsetinfo by fjahr · Pull Request #19145 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
353 2021-01-14T19:06:52  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: replacing #20362?
354 2021-01-14T19:06:55  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20362 | test: Implicitly sync after generate* to preempt races and intermittent test failures by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #20362 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
355 2021-01-14T19:07:03  <jnewbery> wumpus: can we move #20557 to high priority bug fixes? PR #16702 broke some aspects of addrman deserialization and it'd be nice to fix them
356 2021-01-14T19:07:05  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20557 | addrman: Fix new table bucketing during unserialization by jnewbery · Pull Request #20557 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
357 2021-01-14T19:07:09  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16702 | p2p: supplying and using asmap to improve IP bucketing in addrman by naumenkogs · Pull Request #16702 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
358 2021-01-14T19:07:17  <MarcoFalke> wumpus: Jup
359 2021-01-14T19:09:29  <jamesob> hi
360 2021-01-14T19:09:47  <wumpus> MarcoFalke jonatack  fjahr jnewbery: done
361 2021-01-14T19:09:57  <fjahr> wumpus: thank you!
362 2021-01-14T19:10:25  <jonatack> thanks! (i'd like to either finish up the ongoing feerate sat/B migration and CFeeRate refactoring, or close it out as up for grabs)
363 2021-01-14T19:10:42  <wumpus> at last, something new to review again!
364 2021-01-14T19:11:07  <luke-jr> >implying there was ever a shortage
365 2021-01-14T19:11:32  <wumpus> heh
366 2021-01-14T19:11:46  <jonatack> jnewbery: agree, good choice
367 2021-01-14T19:11:48  <wumpus> any other PRs to add/remove or that are almost ready for merge?
368 2021-01-14T19:11:54  <jamesob> I think #19806 is pretty close to ready. More generally I'm kind of curious with how the g_chainman work is going to interface with the assumeutxo work; the two are going to step on each others' toes I think
369 2021-01-14T19:11:57  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19806 | validation: UTXO snapshot activation by jamesob · Pull Request #19806 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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371 2021-01-14T19:12:08  <jamesob> (referring to #20749)
372 2021-01-14T19:12:10  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20749 | [Bundle 1/n] Prune g_chainman usage related to ::LookupBlockIndex by dongcarl · Pull Request #20749 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
373 2021-01-14T19:13:02  <dongcarl> hi
374 2021-01-14T19:13:11  <wumpus> the g_chainman work is necessary for factoring out the consensus code (libbitcoin_kernel) so fairly important
375 2021-01-14T19:13:38  <dongcarl> jamesob: What parts are you most concerned about? Happy to talk through it and see how we can work it out
376 2021-01-14T19:14:01  <sipa> jamesob, dongcarl: ideally you two figure out how to order things
377 2021-01-14T19:14:14  <jamesob> there are some parts of assumeutxo that add chainstate-related calls to, say, net_processing so we probably need to sequence the changes somehow
378 2021-01-14T19:14:33  <jamesob> I'm pretty flexible but also want to know whether to steel myself for rebase hell :)
379 2021-01-14T19:14:39  <wumpus> maybe that can get rid of the circular dependency as well :)
380 2021-01-14T19:14:49  <jamesob> let's hope
381 2021-01-14T19:14:55  <wumpus> it's really a blemish
382 2021-01-14T19:15:09  <dongcarl> jamesob: I think we can do it in an order or in a way that makes rebase easier, happy to chat offline and plan this out
383 2021-01-14T19:15:11  <jamesob> that's the trouble with validation though - it's pretty challenging to yank parts out of it
384 2021-01-14T19:15:30  <jamesob> dongcarl: sure, sounds good
385 2021-01-14T19:16:02  <wumpus> i wish the utxo load/store stuff was not part of validation but a module in itself but yes it's not easy design
386 2021-01-14T19:16:33  <jamesob> agreed, but it's not trivial to untangle in my experience
387 2021-01-14T19:17:53  <wumpus> right
388 2021-01-14T19:18:11  <wumpus> anyone with another topic suggestion for today?
389 2021-01-14T19:19:30  <wumpus> that's a short meeting then, this time!
390 2021-01-14T19:19:39  <wumpus> #endmeeting
391 2021-01-14T19:19:40  <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
392 2021-01-14T19:19:40  <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Jan 14 19:19:39 2021 UTC.
393 2021-01-14T19:19:40  <core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-01-14-19.03.moin.txt
394 2021-01-14T19:19:48  <jonasschnelli> \o
395 2021-01-14T19:19:56  <jnewbery> short meetings are good meetings. Thanks wumpus!
396 2021-01-14T19:20:14  <sdaftuar> did i miss the congrats on 0.21 part?  oops.  congrats on 0.21 everyone :)
397 2021-01-14T19:20:17  <luke-jr> XD
398 2021-01-14T19:20:20  <luke-jr> yes
399 2021-01-14T19:20:24  <luke-jr> [19:03:57] <sipa> congrats on 0.21 everyone!
400 2021-01-14T19:20:28  <wumpus> congrats sdaftuar
401 2021-01-14T19:20:33  <wumpus> jnewbery: agree
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409 2021-01-14T19:53:25  <midnight> yeah folks, thanks for the effort! \o/
410 2021-01-14T19:56:38  <midnight> also: <3
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453 2021-01-14T23:55:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #20937: guix: Make nsis reproducible by respecting SOURCE-DATE-EPOCH (master...2021-01-nsis-sde-reproducibility) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20937
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