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510 2021-01-15T01:52:14  <sipa> fjahr, elichai2: down to 54 us
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520 2021-01-15T02:29:07  <Arvidt> Congrats for Release! Where can one see how many Onion Nodes are there? bitnodes leaderboard does only show _26_ ?
521 2021-01-15T02:31:41  <sipa> Arvidt: there is no authorative source
522 2021-01-15T02:32:12  <Arvidt> Yes I know
523 2021-01-15T02:32:46  <sipa> so i'm afraid the only correct answer is "nobody knows" - various sites may try to index them, but that's always going to be approximate
524 2021-01-15T02:35:15  <Arvidt> Bitnodes knows 9 thousand nodes, strange it knows only 26 onion nodes
525 2021-01-15T02:37:22  <sipa> my crawler knows a few 1000
526 2021-01-15T02:46:53  <luke-jr> quite possible for onions to not be listening either, in which case glwt :P
527 2021-01-15T02:47:27  <luke-jr> sipa: only torV2 tho, right?
528 2021-01-15T02:47:45  <sipa> luke-jr: yes
529 2021-01-15T02:47:56  <luke-jr> my crawler has only been doing tor for like a month and it sees 4012 :o
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532 2021-01-15T03:01:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #20938: Fix linking against -latomic when building for riscv (master...fix_riscv_atomic_usage) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20938
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535 2021-01-15T03:12:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #20939: build: fix RELOC_SECTION security check for bitcoin-util (master...fix_bitcoin_util_reloc_section) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20939
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537 2021-01-15T03:14:13  <aj> fanquake: nice
538 2021-01-15T03:15:06  <fanquake> aj: now that's solved I guess I'm free to go watch the cricket
539 2021-01-15T03:15:28  <sipa> the sport or the insect?
540 2021-01-15T03:16:14  <luke-jr> insect sounds more interesting
541 2021-01-15T03:16:55  <sipa> agree.
542 2021-01-15T03:17:43  <fanquake> 😢 This game will only go for the next 5 days
543 2021-01-15T03:18:08  <sipa> crickets live that long?
544 2021-01-15T03:18:52  <fanquake> I'll try find one and let you know
545 2021-01-15T03:19:12  <sipa> haha
546 2021-01-15T03:20:42  <luke-jr> XD
547 2021-01-15T03:21:37  * luke-jr remembers the time a Japanese bitcoiner visited him and we went shooting guns out back for the lulz
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565 2021-01-15T05:46:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jarolrod opened pull request #20941: rpc: document RPC_TRANSACTION_ALREADY_IN_CHAIN exception (master...rpcman-sendrawtx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20941
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585 2021-01-15T08:04:37  <Arvidt> sipa luke-jr: Thanks, do I understand right that your crawlers do not tell the count of seen listening onion nodes?
586 2021-01-15T08:11:52  <sipa> Arvidt: not sure what you mean
587 2021-01-15T08:13:21  <sipa> Arvidt: a dump of my crawler is on http://bitcoin.sipa.be/seeds.txt.gz
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603 2021-01-15T08:34:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ajtowns opened pull request #20942: [refactor] Move some net_processing globals into PeerManagerImpl (master...202101-netproc-anti-globalisation-pt1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20942
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612 2021-01-15T09:08:44  <jonatack> seeing my first 0.21.0 (ipv4) peer
613 2021-01-15T09:20:29  <elichai2> sipa: sweet :)
614 2021-01-15T09:22:14  <elichai2> (I'm writing a go implementation for muhash, but I'll try to use their big.Int from the standard library for the modular inversion, see how fast is that before i try safegcd or other algs)
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618 2021-01-15T10:01:04  <provoostenator> wumpus: v0.21.0 release torrent whitelist done
619 2021-01-15T10:28:08  <wumpus> provoostenator: thank you!
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654 2021-01-15T13:39:13  <wumpus> i've added glozow to the "frequent contributors" for the github orgs
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664 2021-01-15T14:52:37  <nkuttler> btw, 0.21 still wasn't posted on bitcoincore.org, should i create a ticket?
665 2021-01-15T14:58:26  <provoostenator> If someone has a chance to merge https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/171 then I can have some rebase fun on hardware wallet UI stuff...
666 2021-01-15T14:59:15  <provoostenator> nkuttler: there is a PR: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/734
667 2021-01-15T15:00:12  <nkuttler> provoostenator: ah, thanks!
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704 2021-01-15T17:20:06  <wumpus> nkuttler: thanks for the reminder it should be ready for merge now
705 2021-01-15T17:21:12  <talisein> In a 0.21 descriptor wallet, if i RPC importdescriptors with active=false, is there any way to modify that flag via another RPC?
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707 2021-01-15T17:25:15  <wumpus> i have no idea what's going on with the bitcoin.org PR, https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/Bitcoin.org/pull/3560, but i guess cobra prefers not to do that anymore anyway
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709 2021-01-15T17:26:09  <sipa> CI failure?
710 2021-01-15T17:26:16  <wumpus> yes
711 2021-01-15T17:27:24  <wumpus> it's always the same, the problem isn't the CI failure but that the output is completely useless for fixing what the problem is, and to be honest i'm kind of tired of updating two sites in the first place
712 2021-01-15T17:30:13  <wumpus> anyhow, easiest would be to delete the changelog and make it a link to bitcoincore.org's, once that is merged of course
713 2021-01-15T17:30:24  <sipa> yeah
714 2021-01-15T17:34:51  <MarcoFalke>   *  1651:88: ERROR: Tag datadir invalid
715 2021-01-15T17:35:04  <MarcoFalke> Maybe grep for "<datadir>"?
716 2021-01-15T17:35:31  <MarcoFalke>  - #15935 Add <datadir>/settings.json persistent settings storage
717 2021-01-15T17:35:35  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15935 | Add /settings.json persistent settings storage by ryanofsky · Pull Request #15935 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
718 2021-01-15T17:35:50  <MarcoFalke> heh, gribble can't handle it either
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721 2021-01-15T17:55:35  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: thanks, yeah that could be it... the annoying thing is that the line numbers are from a generated html file (the only way to produce it locally is to install exactly the same set of ruby scripts and dependencies)
722 2021-01-15T17:56:51  <wumpus> also it only gives one error at a time and the CI runs for almost an hour
723 2021-01-15T17:57:12  <wumpus> (which is absurd for checking a website, but there you go)
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726 2021-01-15T18:02:53  <MarcoFalke> yeah, travis :(
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731 2021-01-15T18:31:43  <wumpus> bitcoin-core-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org is now finally, officially, an announcement-only list
732 2021-01-15T18:31:55  <sipa> yay
733 2021-01-15T18:49:01  <wumpus> nkuttler: 0.21.0 release post is up
734 2021-01-15T18:53:52  <nkuttler> yay \o/
735 2021-01-15T18:54:59  <achow101> talisein: currently no. #19651 implements that
736 2021-01-15T18:55:04  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19651 | wallet: importdescriptors update existing by S3RK · Pull Request #19651 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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739 2021-01-15T18:58:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f91587f050d9...0a1cf6c34734
740 2021-01-15T18:58:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa0a864 MarcoFalke: fuzz: Use mocktime in process_message* fuzz targets
741 2021-01-15T18:58:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0a1cf6c MarcoFalke: Merge #20908: fuzz: Use mocktime in process_message* fuzz targets
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744 2021-01-15T18:59:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20908: fuzz: Use mocktime in process_message* fuzz targets (master...2101-fuzzMocktime) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20908
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746 2021-01-15T19:00:14  <achow101> wallet meeting?
747 2021-01-15T19:00:46  <achow101> #startmeeting
748 2021-01-15T19:00:47  <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Fri Jan 15 19:00:46 2021 UTC.  The chair is achow101. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
749 2021-01-15T19:00:47  <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
750 2021-01-15T19:00:53  <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Wallet Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard bluematt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator
751 2021-01-15T19:00:53  <achow101> ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild wumpus
752 2021-01-15T19:01:00  <jonatack> hi
753 2021-01-15T19:01:06  <emzy> hi
754 2021-01-15T19:01:12  <achow101> any topics?
755 2021-01-15T19:02:21  <achow101> With 0.21 out now, are there any big things we want to get in for 22.0?
756 2021-01-15T19:03:03  <jonatack> i'd like to finish up the migration from btc/kb to sat/b feerates
757 2021-01-15T19:03:12  <jonatack> and refactor CFeeRate
758 2021-01-15T19:03:19  <jonatack> the plan is to
759 2021-01-15T19:03:20  <luke-jr> achow101: I was thinking the other day, that it'd be nice to get wallet backup reminders
760 2021-01-15T19:04:08  <jonatack> add setfeerate and estimatefeerate RPCs in sat/b and then we can deprecate the feeRate btc/kb params
761 2021-01-15T19:04:14  <achow101> jonatack: that's mostly within the rpcs, right?
762 2021-01-15T19:04:30  <luke-jr> also, according to puchu in #bitcoin, the GUI has gotten less responsive in 0.21; not sure if wallet-related or not
763 2021-01-15T19:04:35  <jonatack> achow101: also a bit of CFeeRate refactoring in #20546
764 2021-01-15T19:04:37  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20546 | policy, wallet, refactor: check for non-representable CFeeRates by jonatack · Pull Request #20546 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
765 2021-01-15T19:04:58  <jonatack> and a new AmountFromValue-like method that understands feerates
766 2021-01-15T19:05:11  <achow101> cool
767 2021-01-15T19:05:27  <achow101> luke-jr: wallet backup reminders in what way?
768 2021-01-15T19:05:29  <jonatack> then we could start migrating the config options if people want
769 2021-01-15T19:06:31  <achow101> jonatack: having all feerate things be the same units would be ideal
770 2021-01-15T19:06:43  <jonatack> achow101: yes!
771 2021-01-15T19:06:54  <jonatack> achow101: remind me of the xpub export plans plz
772 2021-01-15T19:07:00  <jonatack> istm there was a PR to review
773 2021-01-15T19:07:23  <jonatack> i'd also like to see fjahr's coinstats work get in and your coinselection work
774 2021-01-15T19:07:29  <luke-jr> achow101: seems users forget to backup their wallet
775 2021-01-15T19:07:38  <achow101> jonatack:  #20226 I think was the pr
776 2021-01-15T19:07:40  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20226 | wallet, rpc: add listdescriptors command by S3RK · Pull Request #20226 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
777 2021-01-15T19:08:00  <luke-jr> achow101: even just a one-time reminder after creation might help, but something to keep track of backup outdatedness and warn the user regularly would also be nice
778 2021-01-15T19:09:05  <achow101> luke-jr: outdatedness may be hard to determine
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780 2021-01-15T19:09:22  <luke-jr> could just increment a counter per change, and reset to 0 on backup?
781 2021-01-15T19:09:53  <jonatack> luke-jr: that does seem a good idea, if workable
782 2021-01-15T19:10:07  <jonatack> (the concept)
783 2021-01-15T19:10:15  <achow101> I think a lot of people backup by copying the wallet.dat file rather than using the explicit backup wallet stuff
784 2021-01-15T19:10:23  <achow101> which in that case we wouldn't know when a backup was made
785 2021-01-15T19:10:26  <luke-jr> that can lead to corruption
786 2021-01-15T19:10:29  <luke-jr> bad idea regardless
787 2021-01-15T19:10:35  <luke-jr> they need the reminder too :P
788 2021-01-15T19:10:48  <achow101> an idea being bad hasn't stopped people from doing it :/
789 2021-01-15T19:11:07  <achow101> but reminders would be nice. I guess it would also help to push people to do it the right way
790 2021-01-15T19:11:14  <luke-jr> but at least this way they would investigate why they got a notice ;)
791 2021-01-15T19:11:18  <luke-jr> and fix their backups
792 2021-01-15T19:11:21  <sipa> the application explicitly telling you "You should make a backup, click here to do so!" likely encourages them to do it the right way
793 2021-01-15T19:11:31  <luke-jr> yes
794 2021-01-15T19:11:49  <jonatack> +1
795 2021-01-15T19:12:09  <achow101> luke-jr: can you open a brainstorming issue for this?
796 2021-01-15T19:14:15  <achow101> in terms of other stuff for 22.0, I'd like the coin selection changes to go in
797 2021-01-15T19:14:38  <luke-jr> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/issues/185
798 2021-01-15T19:15:13  <achow101> i have a stack of branches and prs that do a ton of coin selection improvements
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800 2021-01-15T19:15:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0a1cf6c34734...32e59fc37108
801 2021-01-15T19:15:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa0aa87 MarcoFalke: rpc: Return wtxid from testmempoolaccept
802 2021-01-15T19:15:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 32e59fc MarcoFalke: Merge #20916: rpc: Return wtxid from testmempoolaccept
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805 2021-01-15T19:16:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20916: rpc: Return wtxid from testmempoolaccept (master...2101-wtxidTestmempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20916
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807 2021-01-15T19:16:51  <jonatack> achow101: it would be good to move those forward. FWIW is meshcollider still on honeymoon?
808 2021-01-15T19:17:30  <achow101> meshcollider told me he was back at the start of december
809 2021-01-15T19:17:37  <achow101> but I think he dropped off the face of the earth
810 2021-01-15T19:17:41  <luke-jr> x.x
811 2021-01-15T19:18:06  <achow101> maybe NZ's border closing also affected the internet
812 2021-01-15T19:19:08  <achow101> anything else to discuss?
813 2021-01-15T19:20:24  <jonatack> pls ack #20391 i think it's rtm
814 2021-01-15T19:20:27  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20391 | wallet: introduce setfeerate (an improved settxfee, in sat/vB) by jonatack · Pull Request #20391 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
815 2021-01-15T19:21:03  <achow101> will look
816 2021-01-15T19:21:25  <achow101> #endmeeting
817 2021-01-15T19:21:26  <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
818 2021-01-15T19:21:26  <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Fri Jan 15 19:21:25 2021 UTC.
819 2021-01-15T19:21:26  <core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-01-15-19.00.moin.txt
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828 2021-01-15T19:57:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20944: rpc: Return total fee in mempool (master...2101-rpcMempoolTotalFee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20944
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