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 50 2021-01-19T08:48:02  <fanquake> sipa / wumpus: can probably block mshalabi1990
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 52 2021-01-19T08:56:51  <shesek> seems like https://bitcoincore.org/en/doc/0.21.0/ is not up yet
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 68 2021-01-19T10:47:18  <shesek> not sure if worth fixing, but v0.21 appears to use a generic error code of -1 when the deprecated `generate` command is called with arguments, rather than the -32601 code (RPC_METHOD_NOT_FOUND)
 69 2021-01-19T10:47:55  <shesek> it does return the correct error code when `generate` is called with no arguments (see https://gist.github.com/shesek/fcebbb3e7aa04c380e97c9b90fc478f2). v0.20 returned the correct error code in both cases.
 70 2021-01-19T10:48:14  <shesek> I noticed this because it broke rust-bitcoincore-rpc's integration tests
 71 2021-01-19T10:48:24  <shesek> easily workaroundable though
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 73 2021-01-19T10:49:00  <shesek> https://travis-ci.org/github/shesek/rust-bitcoincore-rpc/jobs/755159897#L397
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 77 2021-01-19T11:25:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #20960: doc: Add tracing.md, documenting eBPF tracing (master...2021-01-tracing-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20960
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 79 2021-01-19T11:26:14  <jonasschnelli> shesek: 0.21 has no generate rpc call anymore (AFAIK 0.20 also not)
 80 2021-01-19T11:26:19  <jonasschnelli> shesek: are you using bitcoin-cli?
 81 2021-01-19T11:27:04  <shesek> jonasschnelli, right, I'm aware, its the behavior of the deprecation message that changes (different error code)
 82 2021-01-19T11:27:10  <wumpus> someone re-added the generate call to make it return an error message
 83 2021-01-19T11:27:10  <jonasschnelli> I see
 84 2021-01-19T11:27:13  <shesek> I'm not using it at all
 85 2021-01-19T11:27:20  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: right.
 86 2021-01-19T11:27:21  <wumpus> shesek is the second person to be tripped up  by that
 87 2021-01-19T11:27:46  <shesek> another thing I noticed is that the help text for the `network` field in the `getpeerinfo` don't mention `unroutable` as a possible value
 88 2021-01-19T11:28:59  <wumpus> #19455
 89 2021-01-19T11:29:04  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19455 | rpc generate: print useful help and error message by jonatack · Pull Request #19455 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
 90 2021-01-19T11:29:43  <wumpus> I was doubtful about it but also about any action to 'fix' it now, this is purely a user-facing message, it should be irrelevant to software, which shouldn't already have been calling that RPC for years :)
 91 2021-01-19T11:30:15  <wumpus> (but apparently it does!)
 92 2021-01-19T11:30:18  <wumpus> just a surprise to me
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 94 2021-01-19T11:31:45  <shesek> wumpus, rust-bitcoincore-rpc's integration tests call it and explicitly check that it works in <18.0, returns a deprecation message in <19.0 and a 'not found' error for newer versions
 95 2021-01-19T11:31:47  <wumpus> (see discussion with jeremyrubin around 2021-01-13 21:27:34)
 96 2021-01-19T11:32:26  <shesek> its not actually used for anything, just tests that it got deprecated properly
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 98 2021-01-19T11:33:59  <shesek> what does 'unreachable' mean as the network in getpeerinfo?
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128 2021-01-19T12:10:32  <wumpus> jonatack etal: does anyone know what gitian signer name "Nils Schneider" used (subdirectory name in gitian.sigs)? I think he goes by "tcatm" but can't find anything
129 2021-01-19T12:11:02  <wumpus> looking at the history of both gitian.sigs and contrib/gitian-keys/keys.txt in the repository didn't help me
130 2021-01-19T12:11:32  <wumpus> if there's nothing, we should delete the fingerprint from keys.txt
131 2021-01-19T12:12:10  <wumpus> but likely there is, I could try batch verifying *all* signatures in gitian.sigs and seeing if the fingerprint turns up
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136 2021-01-19T12:14:38  <wumpus> shesek: where do you see that?
137 2021-01-19T12:15:23  <wumpus> shesek: it would be really strange to see that, after all, if you have a peer it's reachable by definition, so if you see it that's a bug (can't find it with a grep in the codebase though)
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139 2021-01-19T12:19:10  <shesek> it was 'unroutable' rather than 'unreachable'
140 2021-01-19T12:19:14  <shesek> you can see it here: https://travis-ci.org/github/shesek/rust-bitcoincore-rpc/jobs/755166228#L703
141 2021-01-19T12:20:35  <wumpus> uhm... that's unexpected, please report an issue
142 2021-01-19T12:21:39  <wumpus> my gut feeling is that it's based on a confusion between 'what P2P addresses we want to gossip' and 'what is a valid network address'
143 2021-01-19T12:23:49  <aj> "unroutable" is what it returns for local addresses (, ::1) ?
144 2021-01-19T12:24:25  <wumpus> yes, that's a possibility, which would be understandable but strictly wrong :)
145 2021-01-19T12:24:54  <aj> strictly it'd be correct, though? you can't *route* a local address, even if you can deliver it? :)
146 2021-01-19T12:25:17  <wumpus> internal routing in the OS is still routing (imo)
147 2021-01-19T12:26:24  <aj> well, code seems to choose NET_UNROUTABLE for IsLocal() pretty deliberately. NET_LOCAL would seem a lot saner to me
148 2021-01-19T12:27:02  <wumpus> it depends on what you see as definition of *network*, I mean if it's things like IPv4, IPv6, Tor, i2P, then returning 'local' is weird as it's not a network nor addressing scheme
149 2021-01-19T12:27:17  <wumpus> but a policy decision
150 2021-01-19T12:27:41  <wumpus> any address can be local if it's configured like that at the OS level, we don't know
151 2021-01-19T12:29:12  <wumpus> likely what someone wants to see in 'network' in the peers list is through what *kind of networking* the connection happens, at least, i would, a local connection on IPv4 is IPv4
152 2021-01-19T12:29:36  <wumpus> if we'd have a UNIX socket for local connections it's be 'unix'
153 2021-01-19T12:30:31  <wumpus> then again I suppose that's subjective up to a point, it would be just my expectations, i'm not sure this is constructive :)
154 2021-01-19T12:31:14  <shesek> I would personally be fine either way, as long as this gets documented :)
155 2021-01-19T12:31:55  <aj> well, "why does a connected peer get listed as `unroutable`" and "how should a connection to localhost be described, given we treat it special (for net groups at least)" are different questions...
156 2021-01-19T12:34:54  <wumpus> we treat it as special for gossiping in the P2P network
157 2021-01-19T12:35:12  <wumpus> obviously we want to gossip only globally routable addresses
158 2021-01-19T12:35:56  <wumpus> I agree that's a completely different thing from *what network is this*, that was my point
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161 2021-01-19T12:47:15  <aj> how quickly we disconnect it when we've got lots of peers, too, i think
162 2021-01-19T12:53:05  <wumpus> yes, another policy decision
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165 2021-01-19T13:20:40  <vasild>     /// Addresses from these networks are not publicly routable on the global Internet.
166 2021-01-19T13:20:43  <vasild>     NET_UNROUTABLE = 0,
167 2021-01-19T13:21:47  <vasild> according to this definition or is not routable
168 2021-01-19T13:29:04  <wumpus> not *publicly* routable
169 2021-01-19T13:29:27  <wumpus> it's an important distinction
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173 2021-01-19T13:38:56  <shesek> it would be nice if 'wallet already loaded' errors had a unique error code. the error message changed in v0.21 so now my code needs to check for two messages >_<
174 2021-01-19T13:39:32  <shesek> though, if you do a new error code and I want to retain backwards compatibility, my code will have to check for two error messages plus an error code, which isn't better I guess lol
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176 2021-01-19T13:45:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #20963: gitian-linux: Build binaries for 64-bit POWER (continued) (master...2021-01-power) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20963
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179 2021-01-19T13:46:31  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14066: gitian-linux: Build binaries for 64-bit POWER (master...gitian_power64) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14066
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181 2021-01-19T13:49:29  <wumpus> huh i'm seeing really weird behavior on github when editing my post lately: the post first appears edited, then quickly snaps back to the old version, but a reload of the page does show the new version
182 2021-01-19T13:50:02  <wumpus> shesek: agree, feel free to add more error codes if that helps, parsing messages should be avoided at all costs
183 2021-01-19T13:50:36  <wumpus> do not rely on RPC messages, they for human consumption only and are not part of what is considered the interface
184 2021-01-19T13:53:31  <shesek> right, I am using the error code when possible, this is the only case I had to resort to identifying the string
185 2021-01-19T13:56:33  <wumpus> if you really have to match on the message, i think it's best to match on the *entire* message, not try to do fuzzy matching, this makes it immediately apparent if something changed in a future version
186 2021-01-19T13:56:58  <wumpus> anyhow let's add a RPC code
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188 2021-01-19T13:59:11  <jonatack> wumpus: re Nils Schneider, git grepping i see many "tcatm" but git grep -ni, say, for "nil\|schn\|eid" doesn't turn up much of use IIUC ... so I dunno
189 2021-01-19T14:01:38  <jonatack> wumpus: i'm afraid i was confused about the alias names though
190 2021-01-19T14:01:52  <wumpus> jonatack: Nils is the only person i cannot find in gitian.sigs at all
191 2021-01-19T14:02:13  <wumpus> for the others i found out what name they used for adding to gitian.sigs
192 2021-01-19T14:11:16  <wumpus> so the question re: #20958 would be: remove his entry, or keep it like this without a known signer alias
193 2021-01-19T14:11:18  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20958 | gitian-keys: Add signer aliases, some historical keys by laanwj · Pull Request #20958 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
194 2021-01-19T14:11:21  <jonatack> shesek: i'm responsible for both issues you reported :) i recently added a functional test for NET_UNROUTABLE in test/functional/feature_proxy.py that does assert on getpeerinfo#network returning "unroutable". maybe it should be added to the getpeerinfo help that currently states "Network (ipv4, ipv6, or onion) the peer connected through"...along with i2p and cjdns maybe as well
195 2021-01-19T14:12:46  <jonatack> ...as they are already in enum Network too
196 2021-01-19T14:17:53  <jonatack> and maybe netbase.cpp:GetNetworkName() should return something more helpful than just "unroutable"
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198 2021-01-19T14:18:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #20964: rpc: Add specific error code for "wallet already loaded" (master...2021-01-wallet-already-loaded-rpc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20964
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200 2021-01-19T14:18:39  <wumpus> shesek: ^^
201 2021-01-19T14:20:42  <shesek> wumpus, that's great, thank you!
202 2021-01-19T14:22:55  <shesek> I'm using this in bitcoin wallet tracker and not rust-bitcoincore btw
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204 2021-01-19T14:24:12  <wumpus> this is weird, I force-pushed a change to change the code from -20 (which was already used) to -35, but github is not picking it up *shrug*
205 2021-01-19T14:24:47  <wumpus> github is not my friend today
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207 2021-01-19T14:32:44  <vasild> s/today//
208 2021-01-19T14:34:29  <vasild> I have lost some (long) text I entered in github comments' box. It is good idea to ctrl+a ctrl+c after entering some text and before clicking anything on the github ui
209 2021-01-19T14:36:36  <wumpus> same, i always copy/paste longer spans of text into an editor just in case, that's far from just github though :)
210 2021-01-19T14:36:58  <wumpus> the web has always been great at making text input disappear
211 2021-01-19T14:37:54  <wumpus> i've never had it miss a push though
212 2021-01-19T14:38:25  <wumpus> oh it's there now (checking on another pc)
213 2021-01-19T14:39:31  <vasild> that's true :)
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215 2021-01-19T14:42:05  <vasild> I use a browser extension which fires an external editor to edit a textbox and leaves the temp file afterwards
216 2021-01-19T14:43:21  <vasild> that is - after quitting from the editor the contents appears in the textbox and there is also some temp file on the filesystem somewhere
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218 2021-01-19T14:44:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #20965: net, rpc:  return NET_UNROUTABLE as not_publicly_routable, update rpc helps (master...update-network-info) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20965
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220 2021-01-19T14:45:13  <jonatack> shesek: ^^ ... proposed NET_UNROUTABLE to be returned in the RPCs as "not_publicly_routable" and updated the getpeerinfo and getnetworkinfo helps
221 2021-01-19T14:54:46  <shesek> jonatack, awesome, thanks :)
222 2021-01-19T15:05:06  <wumpus> vasild: heh I too had an extension for that a loong time ago, but there's so much drift in browsers and extensions and what they can do (e.g. firefox added all kinds of protections, dunno if launching an external process is allowed?), nowadays i just do it manually
223 2021-01-19T15:05:35  <wumpus> not_publicly_routable makes sense
224 2021-01-19T15:07:37  <vasild> wumpus: actually, my experiense is the same - I used vimperator for a long time until firefox made some changes and broke it beyond repair.
225 2021-01-19T15:08:16  <vasild> but just recently I found https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl which seems to be working with latest firefox (for now)
226 2021-01-19T15:09:48  <wumpus> i still think *routability* is a bit of a weird response for a network type, then again, if the point of RPC is to expose some internal state that already exists it makes sense
227 2021-01-19T15:11:39  <jonatack> wumpus: agree
228 2021-01-19T15:21:14  <wumpus> weird appveyor error: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/DrahtBot/bitcoin/builds/37337057
229 2021-01-19T15:25:21  <wumpus> shesek: btw something to keep in mind is that the duplicate load message currently only exists for bdb wallets, not mysql ones
230 2021-01-19T15:25:28  <wumpus> sqlite*
231 2021-01-19T15:26:32  <wumpus> sqlite wallets have no way to detect duplicate wallets at the moment, and it's unclear whether they will have this, as this is a bit of a point of controversy
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235 2021-01-19T15:39:39  <bitcoin-git> [gui] prusnak opened pull request #189: qt: drop workaround for QTBUG-42503 which was fixed in Qt 5.5.0 (master...qtbug-42503) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/189
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244 2021-01-19T16:30:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/43f3ada27b83...dd545c53a5c7
245 2021-01-19T16:30:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9237003 jackielove4u: contrib: embed C++11 patch in install_db4.sh
246 2021-01-19T16:30:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dd545c5 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #20906: contrib: embed C++11 patch in install_db4.sh
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249 2021-01-19T16:31:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20906: contrib: embed C++11 patch in install_db4.sh (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20906
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252 2021-01-19T16:33:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dd545c53a5c7...bc51b99bd5e9
253 2021-01-19T16:33:54  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ea0a7ec Andrew Chow: Remove deprecated bumpfee behavior
254 2021-01-19T16:33:55  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bc51b99 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #20891: rpc: Remove deprecated bumpfee behavior
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257 2021-01-19T16:34:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20891: rpc: Remove deprecated bumpfee behavior (master...rm-bumpfee-deprecated) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20891
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259 2021-01-19T16:34:31  <luke-jr> wumpus so impatient :P
260 2021-01-19T16:37:18  <wumpus> nah given how long that PR is already in the backlog :)
261 2021-01-19T16:37:33  <wumpus> if no one is impatient about it, it'll likely never make it in
262 2021-01-19T16:40:10  <wumpus> jonatack: I ran *all* the .sig files in gitian.sigs through gpg --verify; none of them is signed with Nils' key. I suggest we remove his entry from keys.txt.
263 2021-01-19T16:40:13  <luke-jr> I'd have gotten around to it after 0.21 ;)
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266 2021-01-19T16:55:08  <wumpus> of course :)
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298 2021-01-19T19:05:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild opened pull request #20966: banman: save the banlist in a JSON format on disk (master...json_bans) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20966
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301 2021-01-19T19:08:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild closed pull request #20904: net: (de)serialize CSubNet in addrv2 format (master...subnet_ser_addrv2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20904
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320 2021-01-19T20:44:04  <achow101> FYI I'm finally doing that survey thing I mentioned a while back. If you would like to help distribute, the survey is at https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/6081474/8acd79087feb and I wrote a blog post about it https://achow101.com/2021/01/bitcoin-core-survey
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326 2021-01-19T20:54:53  <wumpus> achow101: to whom is this supposed to be distributed? if you post it on twitter/mastodon i'll retweet
327 2021-01-19T20:57:08  <achow101> wumpus: everyone. I've tweeted it: https://twitter.com/achow101/status/1351632999167778820
328 2021-01-19T20:58:07  <achow101> I don't have mastodon (and can't be bothered to set one up)
329 2021-01-19T21:01:38  <wumpus> achow101: np https://x0f.org/@orionwl/105584398945294574
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331 2021-01-19T21:06:28  <wumpus> and retweeted it from my main and bitcoincoreorg's account on twitter, so that should distribute it pretty widely
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335 2021-01-19T21:17:26  <achow101> thanks!
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340 2021-01-19T21:31:14  <phantomcircuit> achow101, your survey is too long to get responses from 99% of people
341 2021-01-19T21:31:57  <sipa> "good, less results to read through!"
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344 2021-01-19T21:35:00  <achow101> phantomcircuit: perhaps. I trust that the actual researchers I worked on this with know what they're doing and understand optimal survey lengths
345 2021-01-19T21:36:51  <phantomcircuit> achow101, likely they're used to conducting paid surveys or surveys over the phone where people feel trapped
346 2021-01-19T21:37:07  <phantomcircuit> i got bored and i was only 30% of the way through it
347 2021-01-19T21:37:23  <achow101> the percentage things are really misleading
348 2021-01-19T21:37:36  <achow101> there's only 2 pages of actual questions
349 2021-01-19T21:40:18  <sipa> When you run into problems with your Core Node, how do you usually troubleshoot those problems? *This question is required.
350 2021-01-19T21:40:38  <sipa> is "add printf's" a good answer?
351 2021-01-19T21:40:43  <achow101> sure
352 2021-01-19T21:40:52  <achow101> or "by myself without external help"
353 2021-01-19T21:41:58  <belcher> let us know about the results
354 2021-01-19T21:42:12  <achow101> belcher: that's the plan
355 2021-01-19T21:44:13  <phantomcircuit> sipa, git blame | grep jgarzick
356 2021-01-19T21:44:45  <phantomcircuit> that's no joke the first thing i do when i run into a bug in something
357 2021-01-19T21:44:59  <sipa> i don't think "Scripting / automation" or "RPC restore" mean much to people who don't already have detailed understandingh
358 2021-01-19T21:45:00  <achow101> phantomcircuit: ha
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371 2021-01-19T21:58:10  <wumpus> yea same here, either gdb (in case of a crash) or adding logging (in csae of something that's harder to narrow down)
372 2021-01-19T21:58:44  <wumpus> in rare cases enabling one of the current logging flags is enough
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378 2021-01-19T22:28:49  <fanquake> wumpus / sipa: can you block samsungbiologics if not already
379 2021-01-19T22:29:56  <sipa> fanquake: already done
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381 2021-01-19T22:41:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MachaUniverse opened pull request #20967: Update README.md (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20967
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384 2021-01-19T22:41:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #20967: Update README.md (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20967
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388 2021-01-19T23:29:20  <jonatack> achow101: filled out the survey. seems pretty advanced but i imagine it's hard to calibrate. thanks for doing this, curious to see the results.
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391 2021-01-19T23:44:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bc51b99bd5e9...977bec1d93a5
392 2021-01-19T23:44:54  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a91c46c Carl Dong: guix: Make nsis reproducible by respecting SOURCE-DATE-EPOCH
393 2021-01-19T23:44:55  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1fca981 Carl Dong: lint: Skip whitespace lint for guix patches
394 2021-01-19T23:44:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 977bec1 fanquake: Merge #20937: guix: Make nsis reproducible by respecting SOURCE-DATE-EPOCH...
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397 2021-01-19T23:45:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #20937: guix: Make nsis reproducible by respecting SOURCE-DATE-EPOCH (master...2021-01-nsis-sde-reproducibility) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20937
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404 2021-01-19T23:51:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Jetro-Costa opened pull request #20968: Add simple steps to build BerkeleyDB in debian (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20968
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