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 14 2021-01-30T00:45:54  <luke-jr> dongcarl: I started from nothing when I installed Gentoo on my new PC
 15 2021-01-30T01:18:03  <roconnor> luke-jr: like editting your boot sector with your BIOS?
 16 2021-01-30T01:20:21  <roconnor> I mean, presumably you started with some sort of bootable ISO image?
 17 2021-01-30T01:26:41  <luke-jr> roconnor: what BIOS?
 18 2021-01-30T01:27:06  <luke-jr> I cross-compiled a bootable USB stick from my old PC
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 25 2021-01-30T01:56:02  <roconnor> okay.  That's fair.
 26 2021-01-30T01:56:44  <roconnor> I'd rephrase that as I started from an older PC when I installed Gentoo ...
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 38 2021-01-30T04:03:18  <roconnor> Oh course.
 39 2021-01-30T04:03:49  <roconnor> The difference is that stage0 is reproducable, but no one can get reproduce what you did.
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 41 2021-01-30T04:07:38  <luke-jr> well, they could…
 42 2021-01-30T04:08:44  <roconnor> but they won't get the same .iso
 43 2021-01-30T04:09:01  <luke-jr> point is everyone should bootstrap for themselves
 44 2021-01-30T04:09:10  <luke-jr> or at the very least, not be cut off from doing so
 45 2021-01-30T04:10:17  <roconnor> Indeed I agree.  There is nothing fundamental about Guix's binary starting blob.  I'm moderately confident we could rebuild it on Gentoo or whatever.
 46 2021-01-30T04:10:50  <roconnor> I guess I should put in some effort at some point in time.
 47 2021-01-30T04:12:32  <roconnor> The build process should be described by their archine DSL.  Ironcially if it were written in Nix, I would probably be able to read it.
 48 2021-01-30T04:13:25  <roconnor> e.g. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/stdenv/linux/make-bootstrap-tools.nix#L58-L197
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103 2021-01-30T12:53:57  <michaelfolkson> For those interested in fuzzing research, this Telegram group seems to share some great content. It is run by a commercial group (Fuzzing Labs) so the occasional promotion etc but generally high quality https://t.me/fuzzinglabs
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106 2021-01-30T14:14:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] FndNur1Labs opened pull request #21038: Merge pull request #1 from bitcoin/master (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21038
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110 2021-01-30T15:01:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #21038: Merge pull request #1 from bitcoin/master (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21038
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161 2021-01-30T18:26:46  <bitcoin-git> [gui] jonatack opened pull request #203: gui: display plain "Inbound" in peer details, add #162/#163 release notes (master...display-plain-inbound-and-add-release-notes) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/203
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164 2021-01-30T18:27:46  <bitcoin-git> [gui] jonatack closed pull request #201: gui: ensure inbound block relay peers have relevant services (master...inbound-block-relay) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/201
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180 2021-01-30T19:56:31  <jonatack> psa: github cli became a bit more usable with v1.5.0, adds ability to comment on issues and PRs, and displays top level review comments inline with regular comments (without any "158 hidden comments")
181 2021-01-30T19:56:33  <jonatack> https://github.com/cli/cli/releases/tag/v1.5.0
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183 2021-01-30T20:03:29  <bitcoin-git> [gui] jonatack reopened pull request #201: gui: ensure inbound block relay peers have relevant services (master...inbound-block-relay) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/201
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187 2021-01-30T20:12:06  <dr_orlovsky> Sorry if I missed something but do we already have taproot descriptor?
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189 2021-01-30T20:13:01  <sipa> no
190 2021-01-30T20:13:21  <sipa> probably time to start looking into that
191 2021-01-30T20:14:13  <dr_orlovsky> and the address format will be called `P2TR` or there is no definite decision yet?
192 2021-01-30T20:14:46  <sipa> i've been calling it P2TR
193 2021-01-30T20:15:09  <sipa> you can call it what you want, there is nothing official :)
194 2021-01-30T20:15:44  <dr_orlovsky> I assume before there is BIP-350 there is no address format implementation yet (since we need bech32m first). Right?
195 2021-01-30T20:17:35  <sipa> well bitcoin core (and several other software) accepts bech32 v1+ addresses for sending
196 2021-01-30T20:17:55  <sipa> but hooefully nobody will start ceeating bech32 (instead of bech32m) receive addresses for taproot
197 2021-01-30T20:21:10  <luke-jr> our 'uk' translations appear to be reverted to English in 0.21 fwiw :/
198 2021-01-30T20:23:32  <sipa> someone thought it meant the united kingdom instead of ukrainian?
199 2021-01-30T20:23:38  <luke-jr> (would prefer someone who knows something about the 'uk' language to confirm :P)
200 2021-01-30T20:23:40  <luke-jr> maybe
201 2021-01-30T20:23:47  <luke-jr> since we did just recently delete en_UK
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203 2021-01-30T20:25:26  <dr_orlovsky> luke-jr: I am Ukrainian :) Where to look?
204 2021-01-30T20:26:30  <luke-jr> dr_orlovsky: https://www.transifex.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/
205 2021-01-30T20:26:31  * hebasto luke-jr: indeed, done in 93ce429f0e6ab6e09051fd947c898ecbbf907cd8
206 2021-01-30T20:26:39  <luke-jr> I think you have to login/make acccount to actually go into the strings
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208 2021-01-30T20:30:57  <dr_orlovsky> luke-jr: Ok, I'm in. This is clearly not Ukranian but English. Ukrainian uses cyrilic alphabet and Russian is similar to it, so it is easy to see
209 2021-01-30T20:31:25  <luke-jr> that's what I thought
210 2021-01-30T20:31:40  <luke-jr> I wonder if I should just grab an older release and push it over the current one
211 2021-01-30T20:32:50  <dr_orlovsky> 0.20.x and 0.19.x also had english strings
212 2021-01-30T20:33:04  <dr_orlovsky> and I do not see other versions being translated, so literally nowhere to pull from
213 2021-01-30T20:33:33  <luke-jr> I do have at least some real uk strings in Knots somehow XD
214 2021-01-30T20:34:05  <dr_orlovsky> this is however correct ukrainian: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/488b77f72e8fcca63db0dd46780c3940b101ec25/src/qt/locale/bitcoin_uk.ts
215 2021-01-30T20:34:07  <luke-jr> dr_orlovsky: if it's not too much to ask, maybe it's best to just retranslate it? ;)
216 2021-01-30T20:34:18  <luke-jr> or copy paste from there where applicable
217 2021-01-30T20:34:51  <dr_orlovsky> The file in bitcoin repo is a correct translation. What is the master source: transifex or the repo?
218 2021-01-30T20:35:18  <luke-jr> transifex
219 2021-01-30T20:35:35  <luke-jr> dr_orlovsky: probably best if you deal with this, since you actually know what you're looking at ☺
220 2021-01-30T20:35:55  <dr_orlovsky> so the task is to copy strings from bitcoin repo into transifex?
221 2021-01-30T20:36:57  <luke-jr> dr_orlovsky: if appropriate; if they're crappy translations, feel free to make a new one
222 2021-01-30T20:37:16  <dr_orlovsky> ok, git it. Will gradually work: a plenty of strings there...
223 2021-01-30T20:37:28  <dr_orlovsky> *git -> got :)
224 2021-01-30T20:38:11  <luke-jr> I'm sure there's missing translations too
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