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 84 2021-02-12T09:49:04  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a1fccea Fabian Jahr: refactor: Improve encapsulation between MuHash3072 and Num3072
 85 2021-02-12T09:49:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2474645 Fabian Jahr: refactor: Separate hash and stats calculation in coinstats
 86 2021-02-12T09:49:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0d3b2f6 Fabian Jahr: rpc: Add hash_type MUHASH to gettxoutsetinfo
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101 2021-02-12T10:12:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #19522: build: fix building libconsensus with reduced exports for Darwin targets (master...libconsensus_visibility_clang) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19522
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110 2021-02-12T10:40:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/54b66a6e5f26...9996b1806a18
111 2021-02-12T10:40:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8e55981 fanquake: refactor: replace Boost shared_mutex with std shared_mutex in cuckoocache ...
112 2021-02-12T10:40:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7097add fanquake: refactor: replace Boost shared_mutex with std shared_mutex in sigcache
113 2021-02-12T10:40:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 06e1d7d fanquake: build: don't build or use Boost Thread
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116 2021-02-12T10:40:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #21064: refactor: use std::shared_mutex & remove Boost Thread (master...use_std_shared_mutex) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21064
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125 2021-02-12T10:50:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9996b1806a18...e9c037ba64dd
126 2021-02-12T10:50:09  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fe3e993 Dhruv Mehta: [p2p] No delay in adding fixed seeds if -dnsseed=0 and peers.dat is empty....
127 2021-02-12T10:50:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e9c037b Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #19884: p2p: No delay in adding fixed seeds if -dnsseed=0 and peers....
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130 2021-02-12T10:50:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #19884: p2p: No delay in adding fixed seeds if -dnsseed=0 and peers.dat is empty (master...no-delay-fixed-peer-seeds) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19884
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141 2021-02-12T11:51:13  <ariard> thinking about initial transaction broadcasting, has making our own node "amnesic" already be considered ?
142 2021-02-12T11:51:31  <ariard> by "amnesic" I mean not logging in the mempool, until it's announced back by some peer
143 2021-02-12T11:52:50  <ariard> I think it would be a worry rn when you broadcast chain of unconfirmed txns but with the upcoming package testmempoolaccept you might call sendrawtransaction with the whole chain
144 2021-02-12T11:53:00  <ariard> to assert validity of the parents, but without rebroadcasting them
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146 2021-02-12T11:53:51  <ariard> the advantage would be a privacy gain to mask a transaction origin
147 2021-02-12T11:54:19  <wumpus> ariard: have you looked at #21061? i think it's a clever way to hide (re)broadcasts in the noise
148 2021-02-12T11:54:21  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21061 | [p2p] Introduce node rebroadcast module by amitiuttarwar · Pull Request #21061 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
149 2021-02-12T11:56:21  <wumpus> instead of specific wallet broadcast we would broadcast anything that seems it should be mined
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152 2021-02-12T11:56:41  <ariard> wumpus: ofc already reviewed the old one
153 2021-02-12T11:56:53  <wumpus> okay
154 2021-02-12T11:56:59  <ariard> but I don't think this approach are opposite, you might broadcast a set of transaction
155 2021-02-12T11:57:12  <ariard> but not log it you mempool when someone query it with a getdata
156 2021-02-12T11:57:17  <ariard> *those approaches
157 2021-02-12T11:58:05  <ariard> ah no, that would be a fingerprint compared to the "noise" set of transaction, to not find a owned transaction in the mempool
158 2021-02-12T11:58:38  <wumpus> i still think in practice broadcasting transactions over tor is the best approach
159 2021-02-12T11:59:19  <ariard> yes, making one-shot connection over tor/i2p for transaction broadcast might be a really interesting approach
160 2021-02-12T12:00:43  <wumpus> right—one of the reasons we added -walletbroadcast=0 is to make it possible to do so with an external script (e.g. it was my idea with https://github.com/laanwj/bitcoin-submittx)
161 2021-02-12T12:01:44  <wumpus> this could tunnel the transaction over anything and would even work if bitcoin core doesn't itself use tor/i2p/etc
162 2021-02-12T12:01:58  <aj> ariard: aren't you redescribing dandelion?
163 2021-02-12T12:02:30  <wumpus> of course it could be better automated i never really got around to that
164 2021-02-12T12:03:17  <ariard> wunpus: yeah I'm back working on altnet, but will start with headers-over-dns as a first integration :)
165 2021-02-12T12:03:57  <ariard> aj: hmmmm but I'm thinking with all the refactoring around tx-requester and likely the ones around tx-announcement for erlay if we can't rework a lightweight version of dandelion
166 2021-02-12T12:04:31  <aj> ariard: i think we can totally do that! especially with glozow's tx-package testmempoolaccept stuff
167 2021-02-12T12:04:33  <ariard> because IIRC the blocker for dandelion was mostly an implementation concern about its DoS robustness
168 2021-02-12T12:07:47  <sdaftuar> i think hes describing one hop dandelion which should be easy to do
169 2021-02-12T12:08:28  <ariard> aj: you want to flood "noise" package of transaction to propagate them fast and then fallback on reconciliation for the fluff phase?
170 2021-02-12T12:11:13  <aj> ariard: do stem phase by making a new i2p/tor connection, sending 1-n tx's with a "testmempoolaccept this, then stem it to a neighbour immediately, then fluff/flood it later" semantics, then closing the connection -- seems like it might be workable to me
171 2021-02-12T12:11:33  <aj> ariard: fluff/flood being normal tx propogation
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176 2021-02-12T12:24:07  <aj> aha, i think i see what's causing #20725
177 2021-02-12T12:24:09  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20725 | EstimateMedianVal returns higher fee for higher confTarget · Issue #20725 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
178 2021-02-12T12:24:44  * jonasschnelli completed his first guix build
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180 2021-02-12T12:26:37  <jonasschnelli> As for adding guix to bitcoinbuilds.org/CI, I would be worried about the consumed time. I haven't measured the time required for a complete guix build. But during a "mergefull" day, it could easly consume the system entierly?
181 2021-02-12T12:26:51  <jonasschnelli> But there are probably some caching that could be done
182 2021-02-12T12:28:11  <wumpus> agree caching would definitely be necessary to consider that
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186 2021-02-12T12:40:54  <wumpus> ariard: good to see that again i almost forgot about the altnet proposal!
187 2021-02-12T12:41:04  <wumpus> (#18988)
188 2021-02-12T12:41:07  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18988 | RFC: Introducing AltNet, a pluggable framework for alternative transports by ariard · Pull Request #18988 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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195 2021-02-12T13:03:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #21160: Net/Net processing: Move tx inventory into net_processing (master...2021-02-tx-in-peer) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21160
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199 2021-02-12T13:10:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ajtowns opened pull request #21161: Fee estimation: don't extend bucket ranges (master...202102-fee-bug-medianval) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21161
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202 2021-02-12T13:13:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #21162: Net Processing: Move RelayTransaction() into PeerManager (master...2021-02-relay-transactions-peer-manager) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21162
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205 2021-02-12T13:24:32  <aj> sdaftuar: 21161 above could use your wisdom; i kind of took a hatchet to the code and may have made a mess of things, but hopefully you can make sense of it
206 2021-02-12T13:25:46  <sdaftuar> oh no fee estimation
207 2021-02-12T13:26:09  <sdaftuar> ok i will see what i can figure out
208 2021-02-12T13:27:15  <aj> sdaftuar: hopefully the comments in the PR and issue should make sense at least
209 2021-02-12T13:28:38  <aj> MarcoFalke: i am loving this vendetta against random test failures btw
210 2021-02-12T13:30:27  <MarcoFalke> aj: It's been going on for years now, and I am unsure if there is progress, but at least we are trying, heh
211 2021-02-12T13:32:34  <fanquake> Have to keep development exciting with the occasional “random” failure
212 2021-02-12T13:35:18  <MarcoFalke> Right. Otherwise, how would we know the re-run button is working in the CI GUI?
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215 2021-02-12T13:36:34  <aj> MarcoFalke: don't the CI systems themselves fail often enough to keep that button well-oiled?
216 2021-02-12T13:37:34  <MarcoFalke> Cirrus detects if the failure was on the google cloud or in the tests and can re-run itself
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219 2021-02-12T13:49:04  <MarcoFalke> jonasschnelli: DrahtBot caches depends and the gnu store and it takes about the same time as the gitian build
220 2021-02-12T13:49:22  <MarcoFalke> (mod whenever the guix manifest changes)
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222 2021-02-12T13:59:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #21163: doc: Guix is shipped in Debian and Ubuntu (master...2102-docGuix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21163
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238 2021-02-12T15:21:40  <vasild> jonatack: no update is pushed to #20197, just checking
239 2021-02-12T15:21:43  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20197 | p2p: improve onion detection in AttemptToEvictConnection() by jonatack · Pull Request #20197 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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243 2021-02-12T15:25:51  <jonatack> vasild: thanks for checking. i'm thinking of opening an altenative pull that does more (takes a jnewbery feedback to make m_inbound_onion public, does the refactoring we discussed and refactoring to add unit test coverage) and leaving the current pull as-is, for the simpler version
244 2021-02-12T15:26:43  <jonatack> to see which way is preferred
245 2021-02-12T15:27:27  <vasild> ok
246 2021-02-12T15:28:31  <jonatack> as the currently open one is a smaller diff. will update soon (tm)
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262 2021-02-12T17:16:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #21164: test: Use proper mocktime for uptime (master...2102-mockTimeInit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21164
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266 2021-02-12T17:26:01  <ariard> ryanofsky: as with #19160 we start to use libmultiprocess for real, should we move the library under bitcoin-core/ ?
267 2021-02-12T17:26:05  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19160 | multiprocess: Add basic spawn and IPC support by ryanofsky · Pull Request #19160 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
268 2021-02-12T17:26:13  <ariard> maybe a topic for next meeting?
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271 2021-02-12T17:35:45  <luke-jr> ariard: why?
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273 2021-02-12T17:39:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dhruv opened pull request #21165: test: Use mocktime in test_seed_peers (master...fix-for-19884) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21165
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282 2021-02-12T18:04:28  <ariard> luke-jr: as a dependency it might get more eyes on it if it's under bitcoin-core/ than under chaincodlabs/?
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297 2021-02-12T19:00:12  <meshcollider> #startmeeting
298 2021-02-12T19:00:13  <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Fri Feb 12 19:00:12 2021 UTC.  The chair is meshcollider. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
299 2021-02-12T19:00:13  <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
300 2021-02-12T19:00:17  <meshcollider> #bitcoin-core-dev Wallet Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard bluematt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd
301 2021-02-12T19:00:17  <meshcollider> phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild wumpus
302 2021-02-12T19:00:21  <achow101> hi
303 2021-02-12T19:00:29  <S3RK> hi
304 2021-02-12T19:00:33  <meshcollider> Hi everyone :)
305 2021-02-12T19:00:36  <meshcollider> Topics today?
306 2021-02-12T19:01:45  <achow101> We should try to get #16546 for 22.0
307 2021-02-12T19:01:46  <sipa> not much of a topic, but i've been working on adding taproot descriptor support (and, hopefully, signing); hopefully i have something showable next week
308 2021-02-12T19:01:48  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16546 | External signer support - Wallet Box edition by Sjors · Pull Request #16546 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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310 2021-02-12T19:02:03  <meshcollider> 100% agree andrew
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312 2021-02-12T19:02:12  <meshcollider> sipa: awesome!
313 2021-02-12T19:02:29  <meshcollider> Something showable = a branch, or a PR?
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315 2021-02-12T19:04:21  <sipa> meshcollider: branch is here: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/commits/202102_taproot_sign
316 2021-02-12T19:04:50  <sipa> it can derive addresses with inner key, and arbitrary merkle trees of scripts (but the scripts can only be pk(...))
317 2021-02-12T19:05:26  <sipa> i may PR some of the refactorings to descriptors needed first
318 2021-02-12T19:05:53  <sipa> but the exact notation for the descriptors is probably something that needs discussion anyway
319 2021-02-12T19:07:39  <achow101> looking forward to that
320 2021-02-12T19:08:06  <meshcollider> Why can the scripts only be pk?
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322 2021-02-12T19:08:14  <meshcollider> Just WIP?
323 2021-02-12T19:08:47  <sipa> well, because multi doesn't exist in bip342 (no OP_CHECKMULTISIG due to not batch verifiable)
324 2021-02-12T19:09:23  <sipa> pkh could work, but i'm not sure that it should (160-bit hash is a bad idea of the key can be an aggregate)
325 2021-02-12T19:09:40  <sipa> and those are, without miniscript, the only raw scripts descriptors have for now
326 2021-02-12T19:10:26  <meshcollider> ah yes
327 2021-02-12T19:11:39  <meshcollider> What's happening with miniscript at the moment?
328 2021-02-12T19:11:58  <meshcollider> #16800 has had no activity for nearly a year
329 2021-02-12T19:11:59  <sipa> nobody is working on getting it in bitcoin core atm
330 2021-02-12T19:12:01  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16800 | Basic Miniscript support in output descriptors by sipa · Pull Request #16800 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
331 2021-02-12T19:12:17  <sipa> sanket1729 said he was interested in picking it up at some point
332 2021-02-12T19:12:35  <meshcollider> I guess we should make that higher priority soon then
333 2021-02-12T19:12:40  <sipa> i'm also interested in that of course, but it's hard without more people working on it
334 2021-02-12T19:12:46  <meshcollider> Oh cool
335 2021-02-12T19:12:48  <meshcollider> Yep
336 2021-02-12T19:13:57  <jonatack> hi
337 2021-02-12T19:14:11  <meshcollider> Any other topics before we end?
338 2021-02-12T19:16:02  <meshcollider> #endmeeting
339 2021-02-12T19:16:02  <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
340 2021-02-12T19:16:02  <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Fri Feb 12 19:16:02 2021 UTC.
341 2021-02-12T19:16:02  <core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-02-12-19.00.moin.txt
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343 2021-02-12T19:19:13  <jonatack> as it were, i've never had a "project" and could be in the market for one (as long as people want to see it done enough to review it)
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346 2021-02-12T19:21:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #21166: Pass through SignatureExtractorChecker methods to base (master...fix-sig-extractor-checker) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21166
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348 2021-02-12T19:22:26  <jonatack> though i'm fine with continuing to test and review others' projects and helping them move forward
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350 2021-02-12T19:30:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #21164: test: Use proper mocktime for uptime (master...2102-mockTimeInit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21164
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353 2021-02-12T19:35:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e9c037ba64dd...bf3189eda65d
354 2021-02-12T19:35:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 015637d Dhruv Mehta: [refactor] Correct log message in net.cpp
355 2021-02-12T19:35:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d4187e4 Dhruv Mehta: [test] Use mocktime in test_seed_peers()
356 2021-02-12T19:35:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bf3189e MarcoFalke: Merge #21165: test: Use mocktime in test_seed_peers
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359 2021-02-12T19:35:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #21165: test: Use mocktime in test_seed_peers (master...fix-for-19884) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21165
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370 2021-02-12T20:47:18  <glozow> ariard aj: unfamiliar with dandelion but trying to catch up on what was said earlier. you're imagining a dandelion where instead of a stempool, you testmempoolaccept to verify it's correct (you'd need all parents ofc), maybe cache wtxid and some info, and relay? with some probability stem / some probability fluff?
371 2021-02-12T20:47:45  <glozow> and separate from that, all initial broadcasts with a temporary i2p/tor connection + dandelion if possible?
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387 2021-02-12T22:39:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #21167: net: make CNode::m_inbound_onion public, initialize explicitly (master...m_inbound_onion-make-public-and-explicit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21167
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392 2021-02-12T23:28:17  <ariard> glozow: what I'm thinking of is with all the ongoing refactors around tx-relay/mempool it'll be become easier to allocate per-peer dandelion "bandwidth", either to relay solo tx or package
393 2021-02-12T23:28:47  <ariard> testmempoolaccept can be used to evaluate stuff, which if valid will be cached in a stempoool
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395 2021-02-12T23:30:10  <ariard> and yes doing initial broadcast on a single-shot connection modulo are tor folks going to be happy if we redirect that much traffic on their infra?
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397 2021-02-12T23:33:22  <ariard> and maybe if we start to have this notion of strategic outbound peers with erlay map our stem paths on them?
398 2021-02-12T23:34:00  <sipa> as far as i know, there are no known solutions to dandelion's dos issues
399 2021-02-12T23:34:10  <sipa> so i'm not sure what you're talking about
400 2021-02-12T23:36:53  <ariard> this https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/81503/what-is-the-tradeoff-between-privacy-and-implementation-complexity-of-dandelion?
401 2021-02-12T23:37:49  <sipa> yes
402 2021-02-12T23:39:36  <ariard> I think aj point is actually to testmempoolaccet those stem transactions and further you can allocate per-peer resources by limiting their announcements?
403 2021-02-12T23:40:07  <sipa> that
404 2021-02-12T23:40:18  <sipa> ah, i haven't seen that
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406 2021-02-12T23:42:25  <sipa> but per-peer resources generally don't work i think, as dandelion has a natural funnel effect (and nodes don't know where in the funnel they are), so if i send to a node a stream of stem transaction equal to the rate limit (and thus occupying all of that node's outbound rate limit as well) i can successfully prevent anyone else from using that node as a router
407 2021-02-12T23:43:48  <sipa> also, it's really hard to decide what that rate limit should be... the mempool has a natural rate limit because it can assume that transactions relayed through it will confirm and thus pay its fee, you can't make the same assumption about stem transactions (if you receive two conflicting stem transactions from two distinct nodes, you must relay them both, or otherwise you leak the existence of the
408 2021-02-12T23:43:54  <sipa> first to the second)
409 2021-02-12T23:44:08  <ariard> yeah I did hit the same limit when I worked on my package relay a while back, it was about caching the package ids to save bandwidth, the solution I thought about was round-robin incoming announcements on the outgoing
410 2021-02-12T23:44:16  <ariard> but sounds fairly complex I admit
411 2021-02-12T23:44:32  <ariard> what about a rate limit based on near-confirmation txn?
412 2021-02-12T23:44:40  <sipa> what does that mean?
413 2021-02-12T23:45:21  <ariard> I accept your stem transactions only if its feerate is a good candidate for near-inclusion in a block
414 2021-02-12T23:45:49  <ariard> though an attacker might have broadcast a conflicting transation on the rest of the network
415 2021-02-12T23:46:22  <sipa> right, but the problem is you have to make that decision independently of any other stem transaction you've seen
416 2021-02-12T23:47:09  <sipa> so if you have 100 peers, they can all send you distinct conflicting stem transactions... and even if they're all individually good feerate, only one will confirm
417 2021-02-12T23:47:15  <ariard> "you must relay them both, or otherwise you leak the exsitence of the first to the second" can you silently drop one or at least inobservable what's your relay decision was?
418 2021-02-12T23:47:58  <sipa> if the transaction was unique, the sender can easily see that you never relayed theirs to the network
419 2021-02-12T23:47:59  <ariard> *at least make inobservable
420 2021-02-12T23:48:03  <sipa> but just observing it not appearing
421 2021-02-12T23:48:11  <sipa> *by
422 2021-02-12T23:48:40  <ariard> if you have a multi hop stem path, the drop might have happen anywhere on the path?
423 2021-02-12T23:49:13  <ariard> and we assume the stem path to be unknown to the initial-broadcaster?
424 2021-02-12T23:49:23  <sipa> yeah, perhaps
425 2021-02-12T23:49:32  <sipa> it feels icky,
426 2021-02-12T23:49:49  <ariard> yeah I agree it's complex
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428 2021-02-12T23:50:49  <sipa> like the obvious solution is to give each node their own separate stempool, which is kept consistent with the real mempool, but not consistent with other stempools
429 2021-02-12T23:50:59  <sipa> but that's obviously terrible for resource usage
430 2021-02-12T23:51:24  <ariard> you just dup the mempool?
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433 2021-02-12T23:51:40  <sipa> well, the mempool is shared in this model
434 2021-02-12T23:51:45  <sipa> but the stempools are all distinct
435 2021-02-12T23:52:13  <ariard> also about conflicting transactions if we care about masking transaction origin, it's up to the utxo owner to not produce conflicting transactions
436 2021-02-12T23:52:31  <sipa> oh sure
437 2021-02-12T23:53:01  <sipa> but we also have to make sure conflicting transactions don't result in connection graph leaks
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439 2021-02-12T23:53:08  <sipa> which is another form of privacy
440 2021-02-12T23:53:35  <sipa> (or at least, don't worsen it significantly; it's hard to make any guarantees about it in the first place0
441 2021-02-12T23:53:37  <ariard> what do you mean by connection graph ? your topology of tx-relay peers?
442 2021-02-12T23:53:41  <sipa> yeah
443 2021-02-12T23:53:56  <sipa> the ability to infer two peers of yours are connected, for example
444 2021-02-12T23:54:25  <ariard> yeah sadly I think on that point it's more about not making it worst
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