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  3 2021-02-26T00:04:59  <sipa> guix building #21298:
  4 2021-02-26T00:05:00  <sipa> updating: bitcoin-c33b199456e5/lib/libbitcoinconsensus-0.dll.dbg (deflated 78%)
  5 2021-02-26T00:05:01  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21298 | guix: Bump time-machine, glibc, and linux-headers by dongcarl · Pull Request #21298 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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  7 2021-02-26T00:05:04  <sipa> mkdir: cannot create directory 'unsigned': File exists
  8 2021-02-26T00:05:06  <sipa> Command exited with non-zero status 1
  9 2021-02-26T00:05:25  <fanquake> You'll need to nuke the output/ and windeploy/ dirs
 10 2021-02-26T00:05:27  <dongcarl> sipa: Yeah this is an unfortunate UX error
 11 2021-02-26T00:05:37  <dongcarl> I'm writing a guix-clean script as we speak
 12 2021-02-26T00:06:39  <sipa> when do i need to nuke them?
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 14 2021-02-26T00:07:17  <fanquake> Basically after each build. You could also remove the distsrc-hash-* dirs.
 15 2021-02-26T00:08:31  <sipa> deleting the relevant distsrc-hash directory results in it at least being able to build again (otherwise it just says it already exists and aborts), but i get the same error at the end
 16 2021-02-26T00:08:53  <dongcarl> you have to remove the distsrc-hash directories, and the output and windeploy dirs
 17 2021-02-26T00:09:14  <sipa> what if i don't want to remove output?
 18 2021-02-26T00:09:20  <sipa> do i need rename and move over afterwards?
 19 2021-02-26T00:10:05  <dongcarl> Right, for now that is what you have to do.
 20 2021-02-26T00:10:19  <sipa> yuck.
 21 2021-02-26T00:10:20  <dongcarl> Hmmm
 22 2021-02-26T00:10:22  <dongcarl> Actually
 23 2021-02-26T00:10:26  <dongcarl> I'm not sure you need to remove output
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 25 2021-02-26T00:10:44  <fanquake> Yea I think it might just be windeploy, and that's where unsigned lives
 26 2021-02-26T00:11:11  <sipa> also: fatal: no tag exactly matches 'c33b199456e57d83c21eacd36d3c56d0a123b0d0'
 27 2021-02-26T00:11:11  <fanquake> Ideally this will all be cleaned up to the point of never needing manual intervention
 28 2021-02-26T00:11:12  <dongcarl> fanquake: If I just change that mkdir to `mkdir -p`... that should fix it right?
 29 2021-02-26T00:11:15  <sipa> that's harmless?
 30 2021-02-26T00:11:25  <dongcarl> sipa: Right, harmless
 31 2021-02-26T00:11:33  <sipa> fatal. harmless. got it.
 32 2021-02-26T00:11:40  <sipa> ;)
 33 2021-02-26T00:11:43  <dongcarl> Hehe
 34 2021-02-26T00:11:46  <fanquake> dongcarl: I think so
 35 2021-02-26T00:11:58  <dongcarl> I've got some local branches that fixes a lot of these...
 36 2021-02-26T00:12:08  <dongcarl> Promise they're coming soon :-) And thanks for the patience
 37 2021-02-26T00:12:48  <fanquake> dongcarl: you're on thin ice
 38 2021-02-26T00:12:58  <dongcarl> :O
 39 2021-02-26T00:13:14  <sipa> that's a nice build system you got there
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 41 2021-02-26T00:17:19  <dongcarl> XP
 42 2021-02-26T00:18:40  <sipa> yeah, deleting distsrc and windeploy works
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 44 2021-02-26T00:19:12  <fanquake> 🍻
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 46 2021-02-26T00:21:47  <sipa> fanquake: my build matches all your hashes here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21298/#issuecomment-785743515
 47 2021-02-26T00:21:55  <sipa> (macos is still going, all the rest is done)
 48 2021-02-26T00:22:41  <fanquake> sipa: great
 49 2021-02-26T00:22:45  <fanquake> We'll have Guix back in sync with gitian in no time
 50 2021-02-26T00:24:17  <dongcarl> 🍻
 51 2021-02-26T00:26:19  <dongcarl> Looks like adding -p to the `mkdir` fixed it... 3 character UX fixes FTW
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 85 2021-02-26T03:15:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dscotese closed pull request #21289: contrib: Add explanatory comment to tc.sh (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21289
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 88 2021-02-26T03:16:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dscotese opened pull request #21300: script: Add explanatory comment to tc.sh (master...tc.sh) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21300
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 92 2021-02-26T04:02:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jesseposner opened pull request #21301: [WIP] Chacha20 py testing (master...chacha20-py-testing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21301
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 97 2021-02-26T04:42:51  <sipa> achow101: whatcha doin'?
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100 2021-02-26T04:43:27  <achow101> sipa: trying to get documentation for hwi with readthedocs.io
101 2021-02-26T04:44:10  <sipa> it's asking for permission to access the org's "private resources"
102 2021-02-26T04:44:18  <sipa> i wonder what those resources are...
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104 2021-02-26T04:44:56  <achow101> https://docs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/connected-accounts.html#github
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107 2021-02-26T04:49:22  <sipa> achow101: ok, approved
108 2021-02-26T04:49:35  <achow101> thanks!
109 2021-02-26T04:49:38  <sipa> this seems similar to the access travis and appveyor have
110 2021-02-26T04:49:49  <fanquake> is that just in the HWI repo?
111 2021-02-26T04:50:08  <sipa> it seems to be something at the org level, which confuses me a bit
112 2021-02-26T04:51:31  <achow101> strangely it was already available for the bitcoin org but not bitcoin-core
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130 2021-02-26T08:02:31  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] S3RK opened pull request #21302: wallet: createwallet examples for descriptor wallets (master...create_descriptor_help) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21302
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132 2021-02-26T08:17:08  <wumpus> neither bitcoin nor bitcoin-core has any private repositories at least
133 2021-02-26T08:18:21  <wumpus> but no idea what 'private resources' means here either
134 2021-02-26T08:20:30  <wumpus> but if it is read-only i suppose it's harmless
135 2021-02-26T08:20:42  <sipa> i can't actually tell if it is read-only or not
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137 2021-02-26T08:34:24  <wumpus> i found the page but don't entirely get it either, it doesn't seem to be individual permissions just a blanket allow on/off
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139 2021-02-26T08:37:46  <sipa> yeah, but it seems to be something about oauth
140 2021-02-26T08:37:48  <wumpus> i think i understand now: bitcoin-core has a policy enabled where third-party applications (enabled by organization members) have restricted access to the repositories in the organization, by adding an exception to that page, they can at most get the same permissions as the member (but up to what they actually grant)
141 2021-02-26T08:38:32  <wumpus> the bitcoin organization does not have this policy enabled at all
142 2021-02-26T08:39:17  <wumpus> it's a protection against accidental over-granting by members affecting the organization's repoistories
143 2021-02-26T08:39:40  <wumpus> pretty meta
144 2021-02-26T08:40:25  <wumpus> but in any case, with the exception enabled, it's stil up to achow101 what to grant and he cannot grant more than the access he has himself
145 2021-02-26T08:41:00  <sipa> ah, i see
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147 2021-02-26T08:49:18  <MarcoFalke> An organization owner has approved the following application to access private data in the Bitcoin Core organization:"Travis CI" from Travis CI GmbH
148 2021-02-26T08:49:31  <MarcoFalke> Just got that mail ^
149 2021-02-26T08:49:46  <MarcoFalke> any idea what is going on. ping sipa wumpus
150 2021-02-26T08:50:41  <sipa> i didn't do anything for travis
151 2021-02-26T08:50:53  <sipa> i approved achow101's request for readthedocs.org
152 2021-02-26T08:50:54  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: which one do we need to allow "Travis CI" or "Travis CI for Open Source"?
153 2021-02-26T08:51:12  <sipa> are we still using travis?
154 2021-02-26T08:51:14  <wumpus> i have the second one enabled now, i disabled the first
155 2021-02-26T08:51:29  <MarcoFalke> we don't even use travis ...
156 2021-02-26T08:51:39  <wumpus> (it said something about being requested by btcdrak)
157 2021-02-26T08:51:48  <wumpus> ok, will disable them both then
158 2021-02-26T08:52:07  <sipa> yeah, when i looked earlier there was a request by btcdrak pending
159 2021-02-26T08:52:13  <sipa> which is now listed as denied
160 2021-02-26T08:52:16  <wumpus> right, I rejected that one
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163 2021-02-26T08:53:40  <MarcoFalke> ok, I can see travis is removed from the apps
164 2021-02-26T08:53:41  <MarcoFalke> thx
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167 2021-02-26T09:08:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e49117470b77...8d37841cdf3a
168 2021-02-26T09:08:48  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a69c3b3 Ivan Metlushko: wallet: listdescriptors uses normalized descriptor form
169 2021-02-26T09:08:48  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8d37841 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #21277: wallet: listdescriptors uses normalized descriptor form
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172 2021-02-26T09:09:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #21277: wallet: listdescriptors uses normalized descriptor form (master...listdescriptors_normalized) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21277
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177 2021-02-26T09:35:20  <wumpus> let's make a HelpExampleCliNamed
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179 2021-02-26T09:35:47  <wumpus> (re https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21302#discussion_r583491133 )
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189 2021-02-26T10:28:31  <jnewbery> interface_zmq.py is still a bit flakey. TheStack and I have identified the issue and hopefully there'll be a fix soon
190 2021-02-26T10:39:52  <aj> 9\o/
191 2021-02-26T10:40:23  <aj>  ^-- that's what jnewbery/thestack will look like holding up the decapitated head of the zmq bug?
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204 2021-02-26T11:35:06  <Kiminuo> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21244 does anyone want to have a look? :)
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262 2021-02-26T17:27:05  <dongcarl> I find myself writing some utility functions in bash which is useful to other scripts, would ./contrib/bash-snippets be a good place to put them?
263 2021-02-26T17:28:37  <hebasto> dev-wiki?
264 2021-02-26T17:29:19  <dongcarl> hebasto: Meh, what I mean is functions which can be sourced and used so that we don't repeat them everywhere
265 2021-02-26T17:30:34  <hebasto> I see
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274 2021-02-26T18:05:32  <shesek> what are the standardness rules for bare multisig? there's N<=3, valid pubkey first byte and size (according to CpubKey::ValidSize) and NULLDUMMY, did I miss anything?
275 2021-02-26T18:06:18  <shesek> (NULLDUMMY being validness rather than standardness as of bip62)
276 2021-02-26T18:06:34  <sipa_> bip62 is not consensus
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279 2021-02-26T18:07:14  <shesek> oh oops, yes, I was confused
280 2021-02-26T18:07:40  <sipa> you may mean bip147
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284 2021-02-26T18:11:10  <shesek> yes, I did, mixed some things up
285 2021-02-26T18:11:53  <shesek> are there any checks besides these I mentioned?
286 2021-02-26T18:15:07  <sipa> you'd need to distinguish between output creation time and spending time
287 2021-02-26T18:15:44  <sipa> at output creation it needs to match the bare multisig template exactly (or one of the other templates)
288 2021-02-26T18:16:37  <sipa> i don't think the contents of those keys matters
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293 2021-02-26T18:31:08  <shesek> sipa, it was actually you that introduced a more strict checking of pubkeys in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13194
294 2021-02-26T18:31:12  <shesek> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14104#issuecomment-417246959
295 2021-02-26T18:33:03  <sipa> shesek: ah yes, you're right
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297 2021-02-26T18:43:10  <sipa> dongcarl, fanquake, wumpus: i now also did a guix build of 21298 in my debian vm with guix-master-a-week-ago-installed-from-source, and i get a mismatch on osx-unsigned.tar.gz
298 2021-02-26T18:43:31  <sipa> the machine also crashed while building, which may mean it's just corrupted
299 2021-02-26T18:43:42  * sipa redoes build
300 2021-02-26T18:44:07  <dongcarl> sipa: Oh! Yeah I'd love to take a look at that
301 2021-02-26T18:44:49  <dongcarl> sipa: Also, does `journalctl -b-1` tell you anything about what caused the crash?
302 2021-02-26T18:44:50  <sipa> the dmg is a match, however
303 2021-02-26T18:45:02  <sipa> dongcarl: the host machine crashed, taking the VM with it
304 2021-02-26T18:45:08  <dongcarl> Oh okay heh
305 2021-02-26T18:45:19  <sipa> size is 2 bytes difference
306 2021-02-26T18:46:10  <dongcarl> sipa: Huh... Do you still have the output or did you nuke it?
307 2021-02-26T18:47:17  <sipa> i have the output, comparing the contents of the tar now
308 2021-02-26T18:48:10  <dongcarl> sipa: If you use diffoscope, you can use the `--json output.json` option to encapsulate just the diff, and I can take a look if you want
309 2021-02-26T18:49:33  <sipa> pagestuff and codesign_allocate differ...
310 2021-02-26T18:50:19  <dongcarl> sipa: Oh! We don't need those anymore, right?
311 2021-02-26T18:50:37  <sipa> i believe we don't
312 2021-02-26T18:50:48  <dongcarl> Okay, if that's everything then we're good :-)
313 2021-02-26T18:51:03  <sipa> is it worth investigating what's causing the difference regardless?
314 2021-02-26T18:52:29  <dongcarl> I think so, but I'm trying to prioritize what I do so I can keep to my timeline... If you upload the tarball somewhere I will take a look!
315 2021-02-26T18:56:25  <sipa> dongcarl: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/builds/bitcoin-c33b199456e5-osx-unsigned-BAD.tar.gz
316 2021-02-26T18:56:44  <dongcarl> sipa: Thanks!
317 2021-02-26T19:01:58  <achow101> wallet meeting?
318 2021-02-26T19:03:04  <jonatack> i'm around (reviewing 20685)
319 2021-02-26T19:03:29  <achow101> #startmeeting
320 2021-02-26T19:03:38  <jonatack> hola achow101
321 2021-02-26T19:03:54  <achow101> any topics to discuss?
322 2021-02-26T19:04:14  <jonatack> looks like some nice doc improvements are happening in HWI
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324 2021-02-26T19:04:21  <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev wallet Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard bluematt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik
325 2021-02-26T19:04:21  <achow101> petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild wumpus
326 2021-02-26T19:04:35  <achow101> yeah, should be getting a HWI release soon
327 2021-02-26T19:05:16  <jonatack> #21083 is your blocker/high-prio, yes?
328 2021-02-26T19:05:19  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21083 | wallet: Avoid requesting fee rates multiple times during coin selection by achow101 · Pull Request #21083 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
329 2021-02-26T19:05:29  <achow101> yes
330 2021-02-26T19:06:04  <sipa> some review on #20861 would be helpful
331 2021-02-26T19:06:06  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20861 | BIP 350: Implement Bech32m and use it for v1+ segwit addresses by sipa · Pull Request #20861 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
332 2021-02-26T19:06:32  <achow101> sipa: I'll try to review it next week
333 2021-02-26T19:06:48  <jonatack> +1
334 2021-02-26T19:06:53  <sipa> next week i hope to have another successor open ;)
335 2021-02-26T19:07:08  <luke-jr> another successor?
336 2021-02-26T19:07:14  <achow101> any news on taproot descriptors?
337 2021-02-26T19:07:15  <sipa> taproot signing supporty
338 2021-02-26T19:07:20  <sipa> and descriptors
339 2021-02-26T19:07:29  <sipa> or at least, a first pass at it
340 2021-02-26T19:07:33  <achow101> yay descriptors
341 2021-02-26T19:07:59  <jonatack> nice
342 2021-02-26T19:09:08  <jonatack> S3RK kindly did an in-depth review of #20391, which I'll update soon per their feedback to move the sat/vB stuff forward
343 2021-02-26T19:09:12  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20391 | wallet: introduce setfeerate (an improved settxfee, in sat/vB) by jonatack · Pull Request #20391 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
344 2021-02-26T19:09:34  <jonatack> along with one adding a setestimatefee RPC
345 2021-02-26T19:10:31  <jonatack> and fjahr's coinstats work moved forward since last meeting with a MuHash merge
346 2021-02-26T19:11:19  <jonatack> so #19521 is next
347 2021-02-26T19:11:21  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19521 | Coinstats Index by fjahr · Pull Request #19521 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
348 2021-02-26T19:11:37  <achow101> we also got the listdescriptors command this week and I think the followup to have it output normalized descriptors was also merged today
349 2021-02-26T19:11:47  <sipa> yay
350 2021-02-26T19:11:56  <jonatack> yess
351 2021-02-26T19:12:12  <achow101> I'll be working on another followup so the wallet doesn't need to be unlocked to get the normalized descriptor
352 2021-02-26T19:13:38  <achow101> anything else to discuss?
353 2021-02-26T19:13:50  <jonatack> achow101: iirc there was some leftover feedback from the listdescriptors pull you could maybe take in the next one
354 2021-02-26T19:13:57  <achow101> ok
355 2021-02-26T19:15:21  <jonatack> * s/setestimatefee/estimatefeerate/
356 2021-02-26T19:15:30  <achow101> #endmeeting
357 2021-02-26T19:15:38  <achow101> jonasschnelli_: I think the meeting bot died again
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362 2021-02-26T19:27:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8d37841cdf3a...5ba5becbb5d8
363 2021-02-26T19:27:40  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 13a9fd1 Carl Dong: guix: Passthrough SDK_PATH into container
364 2021-02-26T19:27:40  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5ba5bec Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #21272: guix: Passthrough SDK_PATH into container
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367 2021-02-26T19:27:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #21272: guix: Passthrough SDK_PATH into container (master...2021-02-guix-SDK-specify) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21272
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403 2021-02-26T21:59:12  <michaelfolkson> Hey. Does anyone have views on a config option released in Core such that the user could change lockinontimeout (lot) from false to true? (assuming lot was set to false by default)
404 2021-02-26T21:59:52  <michaelfolkson> I'm looking for Concept NACKs ideally if anyone has one
405 2021-02-26T22:02:50  <michaelfolkson> "I like a hidden option in Core which is always there from day one, which is lot=true or taproot-bip8-lot-true or something that would change lockinontimeout to true and also change the default user agent string so you can tell people are running it. That’s good because by the time 6 months comes almost everyone has upgraded anyway, they’ve just got to change their config." (From the Sydney Socratic)
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409 2021-02-26T22:56:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #21304: guix: Various user workflow improvements (master...2021-02-guix-clean-script) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21304
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