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 122021-04-12T01:29:06  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 7de019b Andrew Chow: Introduce DeferringSignatureChecker and inherit with SignatureExtractor
 132021-04-12T01:29:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 f79189c Andrew Chow: Test that signrawtx works when a signed CSV and CLTV inputs are present
 142021-04-12T01:29:08  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 e358b43 fanquake: Merge #21640: [0.21] Introduce DeferredSignatureChecker and have Signature...
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 172021-04-12T01:29:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #21640: [0.21] Introduce DeferredSignatureChecker and have SignatureExtractorClass subclass it (0.21...0.21-sig-ext) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21640
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 222021-04-12T01:52:12  <aj> "Canceled because of an ongoing incident!" well, that's a novel test result
 232021-04-12T02:07:33  <luke-jr> ?
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 262021-04-12T02:23:19  <jarthur> Am I a dummy? I configure with --enable-shared and still end up bitcoind being made dynamically linked
 272021-04-12T02:24:15  <sipa> shared means dynamically linked
 282021-04-12T02:24:23  <sipa> no?
 292021-04-12T02:24:37  <jarthur> Yes, sorry, sipa. I meant --enable-static :)
 302021-04-12T02:24:43  <jarthur> same problem
 312021-04-12T02:25:18  <sipa> is everything dynamically linked, or just system libraries?
 322021-04-12T02:25:25  <sipa> because iirc those can't be statically linked
 332021-04-12T02:26:07  <jarthur> According to ldd, I see libpthread, libboost*, libevent, libc all dynamically linked
 342021-04-12T02:26:58  <jarthur> Is there a bug open for the issue?
 352021-04-12T02:27:32  <sipa> tbh, i have no idea what --enable-shared and --enable-static are supposed to do
 362021-04-12T02:27:57  <sipa> i just vaguely recall it was a bit more complicated than that to get the static binaries we build for releases
 372021-04-12T02:28:26  <jarthur> Maybe I don't either. jgarzik hinted it ought to do what I'm trying to do in this comment https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3781#issuecomment-36507746
 382021-04-12T02:33:39  <luke-jr> afaik --enable-static/shared is all about what libraries we *produce*
 392021-04-12T02:34:09  <sipa> jarthur: i think you can safely ignore anything said about the build system over 7 years ago :)
 402021-04-12T02:34:15  <luke-jr> XD
 412021-04-12T02:34:43  <luke-jr> jarthur: do you actually have static libraries to use installed?
 422021-04-12T02:38:29  <jarthur> I believe so. I see a libca and using the Debian -dev packages for the deps.
 432021-04-12T02:38:34  <jarthur> *libc.a
 442021-04-12T02:47:48  <jarthur> I see other projects have added a custom --enable-static-exec or --fully-static ./configure args, so maybe --enable-static means you only get static libbitcoin and libtest. Also tried adding --disable-shared without luck. I'll see if I can whip something up from older gitian when it built a static bitcoin core distributable.
 452021-04-12T02:48:12  <jarthur> My use case is tinier and more secure bitcoind Linux container images.
 462021-04-12T02:48:52  <sipa> can't you use the release binaries?
 472021-04-12T02:48:57  <sipa> they're statically linked
 482021-04-12T02:49:11  <jarthur> Including glibc?
 492021-04-12T02:49:55  <luke-jr> glibc doesn't support static linking…?
 502021-04-12T02:49:59  <sipa> i don't think so; i'm not sure that you can
 512021-04-12T02:50:39  <luke-jr> jarthur: static linking isn't more secure (nor tinier if you have more than one binary)
 522021-04-12T02:51:18  <luke-jr> the only real use case for it, is portability, and apparently that's defeated by us using Boost anyway :/
 532021-04-12T02:51:49  <sipa> we're pretty close to only having compile-tike boost dependencies
 542021-04-12T02:52:24  <jarthur> The idea is to remove bash and other distribution toolchain from the container's execution environment so that say a buffer overflow exploit has less toolchain available for further exploitation.
 552021-04-12T02:52:28  <luke-jr> sipa: that doesn't help
 562021-04-12T02:52:47  <luke-jr> sipa: boost compiles to code that only promises to work on the system that compiled it
 572021-04-12T02:53:03  <luke-jr> jarthur: sure, but that's not related to static linking
 582021-04-12T02:54:16  <luke-jr> sipa: and not even then sometimes ☺ (when I encountered this, the bitcoind was built on the same machine it was broken on!)
 592021-04-12T02:54:23  <sipa> luke-jr: the statx call thing?
 602021-04-12T02:54:26  <jarthur> luke-jr it is if it's my path to that execution environment, e.g. docker's scratch layer giving you pretty much just kernel->bitcoind in the execution environment. I'm definitely open to other ideas you have for getting there.
 612021-04-12T02:54:26  <luke-jr> yeah
 622021-04-12T02:55:20  <sipa> jarthur: you should just use release binaries
 632021-04-12T02:55:34  <luke-jr> (^ and build those yourself)
 642021-04-12T02:55:47  <sipa> luke-jr: that seems to be a pretty isolated case, imo
 652021-04-12T02:56:10  <sipa> (and specific to the filesystem library, which we'll droo)
 662021-04-12T02:56:29  <luke-jr> sipa: apparently other people with the issue are encountering it trying to run things in Docker
 672021-04-12T02:56:37  <luke-jr> because older Docker doesn't allow statx calls
 682021-04-12T02:57:19  <sipa> yeah, it's pretty annoying
 692021-04-12T02:57:46  <luke-jr> or you meant the issue itself was isolate
 702021-04-12T02:57:53  <sipa> but also, at leasst this specific case (statx) we'll get rid of by just dropping boost filesystem
 712021-04-12T02:58:06  <luke-jr> the scary thing is, I'm not sure we'd necessarily notice issues like this
 722021-04-12T02:58:25  <luke-jr> this time it happened to result in an exception that aborted early..
 732021-04-12T02:58:28  <sipa> well we'd presumably hear about stuff that doesn't work
 742021-04-12T02:58:34  <luke-jr> but who knows what other system calls missing might result in
 752021-04-12T02:58:49  <luke-jr> I'm glad we ban boost in consensus code :P
 762021-04-12T02:59:58  <sipa> are you sure stdc++ doesn't make similar assumptions? :)
 772021-04-12T03:00:07  <luke-jr> pretty sure
 782021-04-12T03:00:18  <sipa> yeah, i assume so.too
 792021-04-12T03:00:25  <sipa> but i don't actually know
 802021-04-12T03:00:46  <luke-jr> glibc at least actually insists you have a newer linux-headers than the kernel, in some cases
 812021-04-12T03:01:10  <luke-jr> as it doesn't have compile-time fallbacks, only runtime)(
 822021-04-12T03:01:46  <sipa> good
 832021-04-12T03:02:34  <luke-jr> the combination means that 2.6 system would have to switch to linux-headers-latest for glibc builds, and linux-headers-2.6.32 for boost builds >_<
 842021-04-12T03:02:53  <luke-jr> of course, 2.6 being as old as it is, my end conclusion was he's just gonna have to upgrade it :P
 852021-04-12T03:02:57  <luke-jr> one way or another
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 872021-04-12T03:04:23  <sipa> statx was introduced in linux 4.11, which is from 2017
 882021-04-12T03:04:27  <sipa> that's not very old
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 902021-04-12T03:05:20  <luke-jr> hmm
 912021-04-12T03:05:35  <luke-jr> I think glibc allows linux-headers back to 3.2
 922021-04-12T03:06:07  <sipa> that's from 2012
 932021-04-12T03:08:56  <luke-jr> kinda sad there isn't really a comparable solution in 2021 (for Linux containers)
 942021-04-12T03:11:49  <jarthur> Just tried the release binary, is dynamically linked to libc unfortunately. It looks like it stopped being fully static after this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4042
 952021-04-12T03:12:08  <sipa> jarthur: glibc doesn't support linking statically
 962021-04-12T03:12:26  <sipa> (you can make it work apparently, but it's very discouraged)
 972021-04-12T03:13:59  <sipa> why do you insist on statically linked libc?
 982021-04-12T03:14:54  <sipa> the release binaries are intended to work on fairly ancient libc versions, fwiw; way older than the ones of the system it's built on
 992021-04-12T03:18:41  <luke-jr> (not that you'd want to use an obsolete glibc)
1002021-04-12T03:18:44  <jarthur> Minimal docker image without distro toolchain, or any part of the FHS file system really. It's not the end of the world if I have to include a copy of libc in the image, just would rather not. It's a common practice for small programs. I'm trying to apply it to bitcoind. The fact that fully static bitcoind binaries used to be distributed gave me hope it might be simple
1012021-04-12T03:19:11  <sipa> oh i see
1022021-04-12T03:19:38  <luke-jr> afaik we've always had to dynamic link to glibc?
1032021-04-12T03:19:53  <sipa> there was some disgussion of playing around with uclibc or some other more minimalistic libc, which would allow that
1042021-04-12T03:20:09  <sipa> right now, i wouldn't recommend straying from dynamic glibc
1052021-04-12T03:22:10  <sipa> luke-jr: the commit jarthur linked to earlier apparently reverted an earlier commit that made release binaries fully static
1062021-04-12T03:22:19  <sipa> but i don't know if that was ever used in a release
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1092021-04-12T03:30:41  <jarthur> I believe 0.9.1 and possibly 0.9.2 distributables had binaries with statically linked glibc. Can't check now though as bitcoin.org took them down for security reasons.
1102021-04-12T03:32:17  <aj> jarthur: https://bitcoin.org/bin/insecure/bitcoin-core-0.9.1/ ?
1112021-04-12T03:32:36  <jarthur> ty :)
1122021-04-12T03:38:55  <jarthur> Looks like it was only Bitcoin Core 0.9.1     $file bitcoin-0.9.1-linux/bin/64/bitcoind.static
1132021-04-12T03:38:55  <jarthur> bitcoin-0.9.1-linux/bin/64/bitcoind.static: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=8b02de16c470e9de817d6c551325517d2ad16a05, stripped
1142021-04-12T03:41:39  <jarthur> Is the biggest risk to issues stemming from kernel compatibility (and licensing if you distribute the binary outside of LGPL)? IMO you're already taking the kernel compatibility risk with shared glibc in your container image.
1152021-04-12T03:42:54  <aj> if you statically link glibc then use it against a different version of the nss libraries (i think?) it fails; kernel licensing isn't an issue afaik
1162021-04-12T03:50:17  <luke-jr> yeah, Linux's syscall interface is widely recognised as not considered a derivative work thus immune to GPL
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1212021-04-12T04:05:24  <jarthur> aj I think the issues are with glibc licensing and not kernel licensing since you will technically be distributing glibc if you distribute your binary.
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1352021-04-12T04:29:50  <luke-jr> true
1362021-04-12T04:30:21  <luke-jr> afaik it doesn't add any restrictions over Qt tho
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1602021-04-12T06:55:51  <instagibbs> someone ban chew917 here https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21464
1612021-04-12T06:55:56  <instagibbs> thanks
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1662021-04-12T07:34:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #21591: build, qt: Fix wrong cross-compiling detection on macOS (master...210403-cross) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21591
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1692021-04-12T07:34:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto reopened pull request #21591: build, qt: Fix wrong cross-compiling detection on macOS (master...210403-cross) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21591
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1982021-04-12T11:46:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] AlbanAndrieu closed pull request #21646: -daemonwait change to -daemon (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21646
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2812021-04-12T17:55:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Emzy opened pull request #21661: doc: Fix name of script guix-build (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21661
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2902021-04-12T18:15:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fdoving opened pull request #21662: build,boost: update download url. (master...fdov-boost-url) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21662
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2982021-04-12T18:57:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #21663: ci: Fix macOS brew install command (master...210412-brew) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21663
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3062021-04-12T19:13:39  <wumpus> we really need to fix the CI it's failling on almost everything
3072021-04-12T19:14:31  <wumpus> oh something with macos, looks like there is a PR for it #21663
3082021-04-12T19:14:33  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21663 | ci: Fix macOS brew install command by hebasto · Pull Request #21663 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3092021-04-12T19:15:35  <jakesyl> Anyone have any idea why a transaction version would be negative? https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/pull/1701#issuecomment-817995493
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3112021-04-12T19:19:17  <sipa> jakesyl: it's a number, it can be anything
3122021-04-12T19:19:26  <sipa> probably just someone playing around
3132021-04-12T19:19:27  <luke-jr> jakesyl: see BIP 68
3142021-04-12T19:19:41  <hebasto> wumpus: yeah, 21663 fixed brew, but ci log shows ridiculous configure failure
3152021-04-12T19:20:11  <luke-jr> ie, it's not really signed
3162021-04-12T19:20:21  * luke-jr wonders if there's anything that *does* treat it as signed
3172021-04-12T19:21:11  <sipa> luke-jr: BIP68 treats it as signed, afaik
3182021-04-12T19:21:27  <luke-jr> sipa: it explicitly doesn't…?
3192021-04-12T19:21:28  <hebasto> wumpus: probably, it is related to new Autoconf 2.71
3202021-04-12T19:21:46  <sipa> luke-jr: you are right
3212021-04-12T19:21:58  <sipa> luke-jr: standardness rules may treat it as signed
3222021-04-12T19:22:34  <luke-jr> src/policy/policy.cpp:    if (tx.nVersion > CTransaction::MAX_STANDARD_VERSION || tx.nVersion < 1) {
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3242021-04-12T19:22:49  <luke-jr> I'm not sure the sign matters for that
3252021-04-12T19:23:04  <sipa> it does
3262021-04-12T19:23:16  <luke-jr> how?
3272021-04-12T19:23:34  <luke-jr> O.o even RPC treats it as unsigned: src/core_write.cpp:    entry.pushKV("version", static_cast<int64_t>(static_cast<uint32_t>(tx.nVersion)));
3282021-04-12T19:23:36  <jakesyl> it looks like bip 68 casts nVersion to a uint32 (fEnforceBIP68)
3292021-04-12T19:23:48  <sipa> luke-jr: nVersion is an int32_t
3302021-04-12T19:24:20  <sipa> so if the serialization is 0xffffffff, it'd be interpreted as -1, and which be "< 1"
3312021-04-12T19:24:44  <luke-jr> sipa: yes, but if it were interpreted as 0xffffffff it would be >CTransaction::MAX_STANDARD_VERSION
3322021-04-12T19:24:54  <sipa> luke-jr: ah, good point!
3332021-04-12T19:24:59  <sipa> indeed, it doesn't matter
3342021-04-12T19:25:09  <sipa> at least with the current CTransaction::MAX_STANDARD_VERSION value
3352021-04-12T19:25:16  <luke-jr> quickly glancing over the code, I think we treat it as unsigned everywhere XD
3362021-04-12T19:25:34  <sipa> because the only two qualifying values are 1 and 2, and their serialization in signed and unsigned is identical
3372021-04-12T19:25:35  <jakesyl> only exception I can think of *might* be the rpc interface
3382021-04-12T19:25:54  <luke-jr> jakesyl: see above
3392021-04-12T19:26:06  <sipa> i vaguely recall that the RPC interface was changed a few years ago, precisely because it's semantically unsigned everywhere already
3402021-04-12T19:26:18  <sipa> but somehow didn't want to touch the actual data type for fear of consensus implications
3412021-04-12T19:26:32  <jakesyl> oh read that wrong. Got it - thanks!
3422021-04-12T19:26:42  <luke-jr> yeah, I'd want to do a lot more in-depth review before messing with it for that reason
3432021-04-12T19:27:12  <jakesyl> yeah - on btcd think we'll just match the bitcoin-core rpc interface there
3442021-04-12T19:27:12  <luke-jr> and frankly probably not worth it
3452021-04-12T19:27:20  <sipa> but at least at first glance i agree that it most likely doesn't affect anything
3462021-04-12T19:27:22  <jakesyl> (it's currently signed in our return)
3472021-04-12T19:27:28  <luke-jr> but as far as documentation, IMO we should just say it's unsigned
3482021-04-12T19:27:36  <sipa> yes, makes sense
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3542021-04-12T19:53:10  <jakesyl> oh interesting - btw  likely reason this is the first time we're seeing it (and it's on testnet) is b/c `IsStandardTx`isn't called w/ `-testnet`
3552021-04-12T19:53:23  <sipa> yeah
3562021-04-12T19:53:32  <sipa> you're unlikely to see that on mainnet
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3612021-04-12T20:22:45  <jamesob> Anyone seen these 403 forbidden errors during CI runs before? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21526/checks?check_run_id=2327358485
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3632021-04-12T20:25:24  <luke-jr> only recently; but I didn't find a solution
3642021-04-12T20:25:56  <wumpus> jamesob: yes, see #21663
3652021-04-12T20:25:58  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21663 | ci: Fix macOS brew install command by hebasto · Pull Request #21663 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3662021-04-12T20:26:13  <jamesob> wumpus: thanks
3672021-04-12T20:27:46  <wumpus> we should merge that soon but first waiting for CI to be green
3682021-04-12T20:29:18  <luke-jr> oh, that's the same one?
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3702021-04-12T20:36:36  <wumpus> i think so
3712021-04-12T20:40:43  <jamesob> wumpus: I ACK'd only on the basis of the macOS CI run being green
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3852021-04-12T21:32:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f6c44e999b7d...708517b2dd64
3862021-04-12T21:32:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b738155 Hennadii Stepanov: ci: Fix macOS brew install command
3872021-04-12T21:32:40  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 708517b W. J. van der Laan: Merge #21663: ci: Fix macOS brew install command
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3902021-04-12T21:32:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #21663: ci: Fix macOS brew install command (master...210412-brew) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21663
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