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 48 2021-05-13T03:46:50  <hugohn> @luke-jr No worries. Appreciate it!
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 93 2021-05-13T07:17:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0ab6ff5e3759...db2990d01f3c
 94 2021-05-13T07:17:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faf30f2 MarcoFalke: doc: Update bips.md for 0.21.1
 95 2021-05-13T07:17:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master db2990d MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21925: doc: Update bips.md for 0.21.1
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 98 2021-05-13T07:17:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #21925: doc: Update bips.md for 0.21.1 (master...2105-docBips) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21925
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102 2021-05-13T07:41:16  <promag> fanquake: will do sir
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104 2021-05-13T07:43:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #21939: refactor: Replace memset calls with array initialization (master...2021-05-msghdr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21939
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106 2021-05-13T07:43:30  <promag> wumpus: ^
107 2021-05-13T07:50:39  <wumpus> promag: thank you!
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120 2021-05-13T09:00:20  <promag> wumpus: have you checked the other constructor?
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124 2021-05-13T09:05:42  <edcba> hi ppl, are there proposals already about energy consumption issue ?
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126 2021-05-13T09:06:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/db2990d01f3c...386ba92e8363
127 2021-05-13T09:06:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c30dd02 t-bast: refactor: remove redundant fOnlySafe argument
128 2021-05-13T09:06:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 386ba92 Samuel Dobson: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21910: refactor: remove redundant fOnlySafe argument...
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131 2021-05-13T09:06:31  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #21910: refactor: remove redundant fOnlySafe argument (master...refactor-fonlysafe) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21910
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133 2021-05-13T09:06:44  <wumpus> promag: not really, but see no reason why the same principle doesn't hold there
134 2021-05-13T09:06:53  <wumpus> promag: I could check it though
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136 2021-05-13T09:08:22  <promag> I'd expect same 3 memsets, worth noting that then 2 arrays get copied over
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138 2021-05-13T09:09:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/386ba92e8363...a31a1ceec721
139 2021-05-13T09:09:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 29c9e2c Hennadii Stepanov: wallet: Do not iterate a directory if having an error while accessing it
140 2021-05-13T09:09:40  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a31a1ce Samuel Dobson: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21907: wallet: Do not iterate a directory if having ...
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143 2021-05-13T09:09:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #21907: wallet: Do not iterate a directory if having an error while accessing it  (master...210510-win) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21907
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146 2021-05-13T09:26:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #21940: refactor: Mark CAddrMan::Select const (master...2105-addrmanConstSelect) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21940
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149 2021-05-13T09:42:51  <wumpus> promag: oh uhm oops seems I was checking the wrong binary, have retracted the ACK for now and will redo the check
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151 2021-05-13T09:43:43  <promag> wumpus: right, I force pushed
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155 2021-05-13T09:54:09  <wumpus> promag: this is the actual generated assembly (for both constructors) https://0bin.net/paste/I6dz6xG0#gVmtOavoCSeoiuDTwa6XnQ1wAmeLojCqQtuAkAEL48z , it's not generating memsets at all but (as far as I can see) correct movX $0x0,(%reg) to clear the memory in question
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157 2021-05-13T10:07:23  <wumpus> promag: updated my github post, it checks out anyway
158 2021-05-13T10:08:03  <wumpus> it appears that even with optimization disabled, gcc does some kind of optimization for clearing small data structures
159 2021-05-13T10:13:09  <promag> Thanks wumpus
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161 2021-05-13T10:17:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #21941: fuzz: Call const member functions in addrman fuzz test only once (master...2105-fuzzAddrConst) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21941
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176 2021-05-13T11:44:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 deff4e7 Kittywhiskers Van Gogh: depends: update Qt 5.9 source url
177 2021-05-13T11:44:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 58c0742 W. J. van der Laan: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21932: [0.21] depends: update Qt 5.9 source url
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201 2021-05-13T12:25:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] klementtan opened pull request #21942: docs: improve make with parallel jobs description. (master...docs/improve-jX) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21942
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230 2021-05-13T13:37:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 105941b Vasil Dimov: net: use stronger AddLocal() for our I2P address
231 2021-05-13T13:37:21  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4741aec W. J. van der Laan: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21914: net: use stronger AddLocal() for our I2P addr...
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234 2021-05-13T13:37:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #21914: net: use stronger AddLocal() for our I2P address (master...i2p_local) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21914
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306 2021-05-13T17:26:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1c9255c João Barbosa: refactor: Replace memset calls with array initialization
307 2021-05-13T17:26:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b34bf2b W. J. van der Laan: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21939: refactor: Replace memset calls with array ini...
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310 2021-05-13T17:26:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #21939: refactor: Replace memset calls with array initialization (master...2021-05-msghdr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21939
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322 2021-05-13T17:49:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #21945: test: add P2PK support to MiniWallet (master...202005-test-miniwallet-support-p2pk) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21945
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332 2021-05-13T18:15:40  <Arvidt> What is that version "v22.0" on the last line of https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/bips.md ? Is it not Bitcoin version (they all start with v0.) ? Would make sense, since V.0.22 is not released yet and there are backports to 0.20 and 0.21 ongoing.
333 2021-05-13T18:16:06  <achow101> Arvidt: we've dropped the leading 0. from the version number for the next release
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335 2021-05-13T18:16:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ariard opened pull request #21946: Document and test lack of inherited signaling in RBF policy (master...2021-05-rbf-noinheritance) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21946
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339 2021-05-13T18:21:55  <luke-jr> Arvidt: master = not released yet
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343 2021-05-13T18:34:36  <provoostenator> The bitcoinbuilds.org macOS CI seems to be consistently failing, e.g. https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/325
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346 2021-05-13T18:37:04  <Arvidt> Thanks, is there any announcement of the version scheme change, and maybe a link to it's discussion? Did not find anything about it.
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348 2021-05-13T18:44:39  <sipa> #20223
349 2021-05-13T18:44:42  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20223 | build: Drop the leading 0 from the version number by achow101 · Pull Request #20223 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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352 2021-05-13T18:59:52  <provoostenator> Meeting? Or not because Ascension Day?
353 2021-05-13T19:00:07  <wumpus> #startmeeting
354 2021-05-13T19:00:07  <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu May 13 19:00:07 2021 UTC.  The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
355 2021-05-13T19:00:08  <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
356 2021-05-13T19:00:12  <jonasschnelli> hi
357 2021-05-13T19:00:14  <provoostenator> hi
358 2021-05-13T19:00:14  <hebasto> hi
359 2021-05-13T19:00:19  <wumpus> let's just try, it can be a short meeting i guess
360 2021-05-13T19:00:20  <achow101> hi
361 2021-05-13T19:00:22  <fjahr> hi
362 2021-05-13T19:00:33  <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard bluematt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik
363 2021-05-13T19:00:35  <wumpus> petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild wumpus
364 2021-05-13T19:00:44  <jonatack> hi
365 2021-05-13T19:00:46  <michaelfolkson> hi
366 2021-05-13T19:00:51  <ariard> hi
367 2021-05-13T19:01:03  <meshcollider> hi
368 2021-05-13T19:01:03  <wumpus> no proposed topics in http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt  (fwiw, you can propose a topic at any time in the week with #proposedmeetingtopic <topic>)
369 2021-05-13T19:01:09  <wumpus> any last minute topics?
370 2021-05-13T19:01:47  <wumpus> #topic High priority for review
371 2021-05-13T19:01:47  <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
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373 2021-05-13T19:01:49  <jnewbery> hi
374 2021-05-13T19:02:20  <wumpus> 9 blockers in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8 , no bugfixes, no PRs chasing concept ACK
375 2021-05-13T19:02:29  <dongcarl> #topic If possible: Guix dress rehearsal
376 2021-05-13T19:02:46  <sipa> hi
377 2021-05-13T19:02:49  <wumpus> anything that should be added/removed, or is ready for merge?
378 2021-05-13T19:02:52  <midnight> hi
379 2021-05-13T19:03:22  <fjahr> #21726 please for me, I am resolving the conflict at the moment
380 2021-05-13T19:03:24  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21726 | Add prune blockers to BlockManager by fjahr · Pull Request #21726 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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382 2021-05-13T19:04:05  <fanquake> hi
383 2021-05-13T19:04:11  <wumpus> fjahr: added (please do take it out of draft)
384 2021-05-13T19:04:51  <fjahr> wumpus: thanks, done
385 2021-05-13T19:04:59  <michaelfolkson> fjahr: Does this still apply? "This is only a VERY rough draft currently, as I am interested in concept/approach feedback."
386 2021-05-13T19:05:23  <kanzure> hi
387 2021-05-13T19:05:23  <wumpus> anything else to add/remove?
388 2021-05-13T19:05:41  <fjahr> michaelfolkson: no, I will change the message in a moment, was just surprised by the conflict
389 2021-05-13T19:07:02  <wumpus> #topic Guix dress rehearsal (dongcarl)
390 2021-05-13T19:07:02  <core-meetingbot> topic: Guix dress rehearsal (dongcarl)
391 2021-05-13T19:07:09  <dongcarl> We’re nearing the start of the contingency buffer period for Guix, in fact, #21239 should be the last piece needed before we reach feature-parity with Gitian.
392 2021-05-13T19:07:11  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21239 | guix: Add codesignature attachment support for osx+win by dongcarl · Pull Request #21239 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
393 2021-05-13T19:07:18  <dongcarl> I’d like to do a full dress-rehearsal (with codesigning) of some commit (perhaps just a version of #21239) this week or the next. I’ve already tried with my personal developer certs with win/osx to make sure there aren’t any glaring issues, but perhaps having others try it out will reveal some UX hiccups that can be addressed somewhat easily.
394 2021-05-13T19:07:18  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21239 | guix: Add codesignature attachment support for osx+win by dongcarl · Pull Request #21239 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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396 2021-05-13T19:07:59  <wumpus> sounds good to me!
397 2021-05-13T19:08:03  <sipa> ack
398 2021-05-13T19:08:05  <achow101> ack
399 2021-05-13T19:08:12  <dongcarl> I'd be curious if there'd be problems with codesigning an intermediary commit with our certs? I'm guessing that might lead to problems if people get a hold of the resulting binary?
400 2021-05-13T19:08:29  <wumpus> dongcarl: why would that lead to problems?
401 2021-05-13T19:08:46  <achow101> dongcarl: considering the current cert is expired, I don't see why not. the only problem might be in making the signature
402 2021-05-13T19:08:58  <achow101> still working on getting a new cert
403 2021-05-13T19:09:13  <dongcarl> Oh! Signing with expired certs should be fine then...
404 2021-05-13T19:09:25  <wumpus> i mean, we're not going to upload it to bitcoincoreorg, but even if so, it'd be like a pre-rc
405 2021-05-13T19:09:34  <dongcarl> I'm just worried people might try to pass it off as a new release of core or something...
406 2021-05-13T19:09:43  <wumpus> nah, doubtful
407 2021-05-13T19:09:47  <dongcarl> Okay :-)
408 2021-05-13T19:10:07  <dongcarl> Once we have enough review on the codesigning PR
409 2021-05-13T19:10:16  <dongcarl> We can decide on a commit and do the dress rehearsal
410 2021-05-13T19:10:25  <wumpus> i don't think it is code signing that makes the difference in people's minds there
411 2021-05-13T19:10:49  <dongcarl> wumpus: Heh that's true
412 2021-05-13T19:10:49  <wumpus> things like announcements, articles, release notes, etc are
413 2021-05-13T19:11:11  <wumpus> right, let's try to review and merge 21239 soon
414 2021-05-13T19:11:16  <dongcarl> Incidentally, does it matter that osslsign defaults to using sha1 as the digest?
415 2021-05-13T19:11:17  <wumpus> then pick a commit
416 2021-05-13T19:11:26  <dongcarl> I noticed when checking my self-signed binary...
417 2021-05-13T19:11:28  <wumpus> isn't sha1 very broken?
418 2021-05-13T19:11:51  <dongcarl> Right, that's why I was curious... We can supply a flag and choose another digest easily tho
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420 2021-05-13T19:12:06  <achow101> If the default is sha1, then that's what we've been using
421 2021-05-13T19:12:08  <dongcarl> Just wanted to make sure if there were any justifications or if it was just overlooked
422 2021-05-13T19:12:39  <wumpus> maybe some old version of windows supports only sha1? i don't know what is the minimum we support nowadays
423 2021-05-13T19:12:55  <dongcarl> I think the codesigning scheme in windows supports having multiple digests
424 2021-05-13T19:13:05  <dongcarl> So we can also just do sha1+sha256
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426 2021-05-13T19:13:19  <wumpus> does that complicate the attachment?
427 2021-05-13T19:14:02  <dongcarl> Hmmm, unsure. We can check if the older versions that only support sha1 are too old for us. Anyway, I can open an issue abt this :-)
428 2021-05-13T19:14:25  <wumpus> I think we should initially try with a modern, non-broken digest
429 2021-05-13T19:14:34  <wumpus> if any problems come up i'm sure we'll hear about it
430 2021-05-13T19:14:42  <dongcarl> That too :-)
431 2021-05-13T19:15:16  <dongcarl> That's it from me!
432 2021-05-13T19:15:23  <wumpus> thank you!
433 2021-05-13T19:15:25  <jnewbery> wumpus: I have a couple of requests/announcements.
434 2021-05-13T19:15:25  <wumpus> any other topics?
435 2021-05-13T19:15:39  <wumpus> #topic Requests/announcements (jnewbery)
436 2021-05-13T19:15:39  <core-meetingbot> topic: Requests/announcements (jnewbery)
437 2021-05-13T19:15:47  <jnewbery> 1. I think it's probably time to merge https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1116 (adding Kalle as BIP editor). It was proposed three weeks ago, has 15 ACKs, and no substantive opposition.
438 2021-05-13T19:15:58  <jnewbery> Luke is still backlogged on BIP PR maintaining, so it'd be nice if he could get a bit of help: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/log-2021-05-13.html#l-37.
439 2021-05-13T19:16:29  <jnewbery> Is there anything else required before we can go ahead and merge that PR?
440 2021-05-13T19:16:50  <luke-jr> not sure how to handle the NACK(s?) on it
441 2021-05-13T19:17:02  <luke-jr> :/
442 2021-05-13T19:17:08  <jnewbery> There are no serious NACKs
443 2021-05-13T19:17:21  <luke-jr> gmaxwell withdrew his?
444 2021-05-13T19:17:24  <jnewbery> yes
445 2021-05-13T19:17:29  <luke-jr> great
446 2021-05-13T19:17:37  <jnewbery> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-April/018869.html
447 2021-05-13T19:17:50  <jnewbery> "I endorse Harding's recommendations."
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449 2021-05-13T19:18:30  <michaelfolkson> Is there an argument to wait until Taproot has activated (hopefully soon) in case drama on that starts up again? Unfair on Kalle to drop him in it otherwise
450 2021-05-13T19:18:42  <michaelfolkson> Whatever Kalle's preference I guess
451 2021-05-13T19:18:51  <jnewbery> Kalle has ACKed
452 2021-05-13T19:20:19  <jnewbery> luke-jr: are you going to merge this PR?
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454 2021-05-13T19:21:13  <michaelfolkson> luke-jr can chat to Kalle and work out whatever is best. I think everyone is happy with Kalle
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456 2021-05-13T19:22:01  <jnewbery> luke-jr: if you're not prepared to merge it, does it make sense for someone else with commit access to the repo to merge the PR?
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459 2021-05-13T19:23:58  <luke-jr> I'm sorry I am behind, but I don't think breaking process or merging without looking at it properly is an appropriate route to take
460 2021-05-13T19:24:22  <jnewbery> The process has been followed. This has achieved community consensus
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462 2021-05-13T19:24:44  <michaelfolkson> If Kalle is happy to sort it out with Luke I don't see the problem. Kalle can flag if he's uncomfortable with his discussions with Luke or how fast it is going
463 2021-05-13T19:24:55  <wumpus> after you've merged it, kallewoof can help you, so it makes sense to prioritize it maybe
464 2021-05-13T19:25:03  <luke-jr> wumpus: yes
465 2021-05-13T19:25:07  <jnewbery> If you're unwilling to merge, then I propose that someone else with merge access go ahead and add kallewoof
466 2021-05-13T19:26:06  <wumpus> ok, anything else?
467 2021-05-13T19:26:16  <jnewbery> wumpus: what's the plan here?
468 2021-05-13T19:26:48  <jnewbery> luke-jr is very clearly blocking something that has overwhelming support
469 2021-05-13T19:26:54  <wumpus> i don't know, please don't ask too much from me now
470 2021-05-13T19:26:55  <fjahr> michaelfolkson: not sure what needs to be sorted out, as jnewbery said, kalle has acked :)
471 2021-05-13T19:27:06  <luke-jr> jnewbery: I propose you stop trolling
472 2021-05-13T19:27:07  <michaelfolkson> Kalle flags if he's uncomfortable with anything. We' re all happy with Kalle and he can discuss with Luke
473 2021-05-13T19:27:39  <jnewbery> wumpus: I'm not asking very much at all. Just that what has overwhelming support gets done
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475 2021-05-13T19:27:44  <michaelfolkson> If Kalle comes here and says Luke is blocking the progress then we have a problem. If he doesn't and he's happy with how discussions are going with Luke I don't think we have a problem
476 2021-05-13T19:27:57  <michaelfolkson> Up to Kalle
477 2021-05-13T19:28:12  <ariard> jnewbery: what's the worst-case scenario if this PR isn't merged and things stay as they are? anyone is free to fork and start maintaining a bip repo if they don't like current editorship
478 2021-05-13T19:28:50  <jnewbery> ariard: luke-jr doesn't own the bips repo. He's the steward of a shared resource. He's abusing that stewardship
479 2021-05-13T19:29:00  <luke-jr> no, I am not, liar
480 2021-05-13T19:29:04  <luke-jr> you are acting maliciously now
481 2021-05-13T19:29:19  <ariard> jnewbery: a shared resource which is super easy to fork :)
482 2021-05-13T19:30:14  <luke-jr> I have better things to do than put up with this abuse, ttyl
483 2021-05-13T19:30:16  <michaelfolkson> We doing this again? Just leave it to Kalle. If he's uncomfortable with anything he can raise it. Everyone has agreed to give responsibility to Kalle, trust his judgement
484 2021-05-13T19:30:17  <wumpus> i don't think this is going anywhere like this, any other topics?
485 2021-05-13T19:30:57  <jnewbery> wumpus: I'm still curious what's required to get this merged
486 2021-05-13T19:31:00  <wumpus> there is really not that much hurry to make it heated like this
487 2021-05-13T19:31:44  <michaelfolkson> You should have proposed yourself as a BIP editor if you don't trust Kalle to move this along jnewbery
488 2021-05-13T19:32:11  <jnewbery> michaelfolkson: stop playing games. It's 4:30am in Japan right now. Kalle isn't here.
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490 2021-05-13T19:32:23  <wumpus> why does it have to happen here and now
491 2021-05-13T19:32:23  <jnewbery> he's ACKed the PR and is ready to be editor
492 2021-05-13T19:32:38  <michaelfolkson> Games? For trusting Kalle? Rather than imposing my judgement on him? SUre
493 2021-05-13T19:32:44  <jnewbery> wumpus: I'm just asking what needs to happen to get the PR merged
494 2021-05-13T19:33:00  <wumpus> luke-jr already said he's going to merge it
495 2021-05-13T19:33:47  <michaelfolkson> I think we're done
496 2021-05-13T19:34:03  <wumpus> #endmeeting
497 2021-05-13T19:34:04  <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
498 2021-05-13T19:34:04  <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu May 13 19:34:03 2021 UTC.
499 2021-05-13T19:34:04  <core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-05-13-19.00.moin.txt
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517 2021-05-13T20:28:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr closed pull request #21399: Genericide BIP9 in variable/type names and comments (master...vbits_rename) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21399
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