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162021-06-28T03:59:00 <fanquake_> no PR bot today?
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422021-06-28T09:27:14 <hebasto> provoostenator: thanks for adding release notes forhttps://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/4
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532021-06-28T12:11:49 <Guest60> Hii
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852021-06-28T15:18:45 <harding> achow101: Looking at https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22154 , is there a reason besides similarity to how we use the 'bech32' string for using 'bech32m' as the address type string? I always thought it was confusing how we conflated bech32 with P2WPKH in the address-requesting interface. I guess it turned out fortunate that we only ended up using bech32 for one segwit version, but now using bech32m the same way seems to also imply that
862021-06-28T15:18:45 <harding> we only intend to use it for one segwit version, and it still creates the same confusion where we have to explain bech32m and P2TR aren't the same thing, e.g. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/100434/what-is-the-difference-between-native-segwit-and-bech32
872021-06-28T15:20:07 <harding> (Sorry I didn't notice this prior to the PR being merged; I'm bringing it up here because, if there's any chance of fixing it, I think that it's best done before this gets released.)
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892021-06-28T15:21:17 <sipa> harding: i think output types should be distinguished based on sender's abilities to pay them, as you may need to construct different addresses for older/new sender software
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912021-06-28T15:21:56 <sipa> and in that regard, i think legacy/p2sh/bech32, and unfortunately, bech32m are probably the right choices
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932021-06-28T15:22:24 <sipa> now, p2sh was already very widespread when output types were introduced in the forst place, so no distinction is made between legacy anf.p2sh
942021-06-28T15:23:55 <sipa> and imho the p2sh-segwit option is just a historical oddity, because at the time, the wallet itself couldn't be configured to prpduce segwit or not, and people wanted a way to opt in/out of that
952021-06-28T15:24:16 <harding> sipa: you're saying that (in December 2021) if I run `getnewaddress bech32m` I should get a P2TR address, and (years from now) if I run `getnewaddress bech32m` I should get a P2FOO address because all I care about is whether or not the person who will be spending to me can support bech32m?
962021-06-28T15:24:26 <sipa> yes
972021-06-28T15:24:50 <harding> Hmm. Ok, I hadn't thought about that before. I'll think about it now. Thanks!
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1012021-06-28T15:25:05 <ndeet> Hi there hope this is the right channel to ask a question about `rpcclienttimeout` afaics this is a setting for bitcoin-cli, so client side only. Is there a way to force RPC calls to be aborted if they take longer than X seconds? Use case is calling RPC via a webapp and the process times out in 30 seconds but bitcoind may take longer than that to
1022021-06-28T15:25:05 <ndeet> finish certain calls. So the webapp request dies with a timeout (and does not know the state of the command). But eventually bitcoind will finish anyway.
1032021-06-28T15:25:07 <sipa> if it turns out that this time around, sender actually ubiqutouously start support sending.to.unknown future bech32m addresses...
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1062021-06-28T15:29:14 <ndeet> Specific problem: `sendtoaddress` called via RPC (on a very busy bitcoind node) in webapp, webapp http call dies after 30 secs with timeout because RPC did not respond yet; assumes call failed/server timeout but bitcoind finished the command after 50 secs
1072021-06-28T15:29:59 <harding> ndeet: I think you want https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21056
1082021-06-28T15:30:48 <harding> ndeet: oh, maybe not.
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1102021-06-28T15:31:23 <harding> ndeet: best place to ask for help is #bitcoin or the Bitcoin StackExchange
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1122021-06-28T15:32:14 <ndeet> harding, I did not find that, I think exactly the same use case I need, thank you very much
1132021-06-28T15:32:51 <ndeet> also not sure why but I'm banned from #bitcoin although I just joined via web interface
1142021-06-28T15:33:10 <ndeet> anyway, thank you a lot and sorry for posting in the wrong channel
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1182021-06-28T15:35:16 <ndeet> yeah, PR desc sounds like my issue but reading through it seems to be something else, will get proper account go to #bitcoin
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