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 15 2021-07-29T02:31:50  <bitcoin-git> [gui] vasq89cm2021 opened pull request #389: Create Christys llc (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/389
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 22 2021-07-29T03:03:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4b1fb50def0d...be92dc587696
 23 2021-07-29T03:03:54  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d7b7f61 h: Updated Readme, Corrected the codesign typo
 24 2021-07-29T03:03:54  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 198ceb8 jonatack: script, doc: guix touchups
 25 2021-07-29T03:03:54  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master be92dc5 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22538: doc: fix command typo in guix README
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 28 2021-07-29T03:04:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22538: doc: fix command typo in guix README (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22538
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 31 2021-07-29T03:07:22  <luke-jr> Isn't it a bug to use `type` after m_type{std::move(type)}? (rpc/util.h RPCArg constructors)
 32 2021-07-29T03:07:45  <sipa> luke-jr: not necessarily
 33 2021-07-29T03:07:51  <luke-jr> std::move doesn't invalidate type?
 34 2021-07-29T03:07:55  <sipa> no
 35 2021-07-29T03:08:03  <sipa> it just casts to an rvalue reference
 36 2021-07-29T03:08:20  <sipa> what behavior that has depends on how it's used
 37 2021-07-29T03:08:35  <luke-jr> gmm
 38 2021-07-29T03:08:36  <luke-jr> hmm*
 39 2021-07-29T03:08:42  <sipa> where exactly does this happen?
 40 2021-07-29T03:09:24  <luke-jr> line 183 on master
 41 2021-07-29T03:10:05  <sipa> it looks like a red flag, but it's almost certainly fine in practice
 42 2021-07-29T03:10:09  <sipa> because type is const
 43 2021-07-29T03:10:38  <sipa> so a move constructor can at best invalidate mutable fields
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 45 2021-07-29T03:13:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 6 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/be92dc587696...8f76f9f61334
 46 2021-07-29T03:13:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 33455c7 Andrew Chow: guix: Make all.SHA256SUMS rather than codesigned.SHA256SUMS
 47 2021-07-29T03:13:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4a46638 Andrew Chow: guix: Allow changing the base manifest in guix-verify
 48 2021-07-29T03:13:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d080c27 Andrew Chow: guix, doc: Add a note that codesigners need to rebuild after tagging
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 51 2021-07-29T03:13:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22531: guix: Fixes to guix-{attest,verify} (master...guix-fixes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22531
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 55 2021-07-29T03:21:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 f220368 Hennadii Stepanov: qt: Do not use QClipboard::Selection on Windows and macOS.
 56 2021-07-29T03:21:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 6ca54ce Hennadii Stepanov: qt: Do not extend recent transaction width to address/label string
 57 2021-07-29T03:21:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 e3f1da4 Hennadii Stepanov: qt: Draw "eye" sign at the beginning of watch-only addresses
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 60 2021-07-29T03:21:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22427: [0.21] gui: Backports for 0.21.2 (0.21...210711-21.2-gui-backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22427
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 90 2021-07-29T07:54:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fbeb8c4 fanquake: test: add type annotations to util.get_rpc_proxy
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 94 2021-07-29T07:55:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22139: test: add type annotations to util.get_rpc_proxy (master...type_annotations_get_rpc_proxy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22139
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 99 2021-07-29T08:24:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22580: [0.21] Backport: Reset scantxoutset progress before inferring descriptors (0.21...backport_19362) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22580
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101 2021-07-29T08:42:52  <jonatack> fanquake: we'd discussed updating the I2P hardcoded seeds just before -final, are we getting close?
102 2021-07-29T08:48:03  <fanquake> jonatack: To 22.0-final? No not yet. rc1 was mostly dead in the water due to some Guix kinks.
103 2021-07-29T08:48:06  <fanquake> We'll get an rc2 out soon after #22534 and then hopefully some people actually testing it.
104 2021-07-29T08:48:07  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22534 | [22.x] rc2 backports by fanquake · Pull Request #22534 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
105 2021-07-29T08:48:24  <jonatack> fanquake: cool, thanks
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113 2021-07-29T09:54:29  <jnewbery> luke-jr: I think the fix is to remove the std::move from the initializer list for the type and fallback arguments. They're both enum classes and will have underlying fundamental types that don't have move semantics. The m_type{std::move(type)} just copies type into m_type
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168 2021-07-29T11:52:33  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f8f772d Antoine Poinsot: macdeploy: alternative info to download the macOS SDK
169 2021-07-29T11:52:33  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 19434fa fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22516: macdeploy: alternative info to download the m...
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179 2021-07-29T12:54:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/19434fa22aad...d23570098cd1
180 2021-07-29T12:54:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e4c8bb6 Hennadii Stepanov: build: Fix undefined reference to __mulodi4
181 2021-07-29T12:54:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d235700 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21882: build: Fix undefined reference to __mulodi4
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184 2021-07-29T12:54:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #21882: build: Fix undefined reference to __mulodi4 (master...210507-fuzz32) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21882
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190 2021-07-29T13:20:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ritickgoenka opened pull request #22582: test: a test to check descendant limits (master...test_descendant_limit_bushy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22582
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203 2021-07-29T15:01:19  <laanwj> jonatack: i'm not sure updating anything prior to -final is a good idea; this means there is a code change (well, data structure change) that is not tested in a rc
204 2021-07-29T15:01:32  <laanwj> jonatack: for the same reason we don't do a translations update after the last rc and before final
205 2021-07-29T15:02:59  <laanwj> jonatack: the only exception are the release notes and potentially other documents not included in the code; so if we want to do another I2P hardcoded seeds update, we sould just do it in a rc
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210 2021-07-29T15:33:43  <luke-jr> possibly bumping the UniValue version requirement, assuming jgarzik gets his end done in time? :x
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218 2021-07-29T15:59:09  <jonatack> laanwj: thanks -- makes sense
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237 2021-07-29T16:33:54  <bitcoin-git> [gui] psancheti110 opened pull request #390: [WIP] Add SubFeeFromAmount to options  (master...i386_0729) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/390
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242 2021-07-29T16:54:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #22584: test: Add temporary sanitizer suppression implicit-signed-integer-truncation:netaddress.cpp (master...2107-testSupp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22584
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251 2021-07-29T17:52:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] agroce opened pull request #22585: fuzz: add guide to fuzzing with Eclipser v1.x (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22585
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262 2021-07-29T19:01:07  <laanwj> #startmeeting
263 2021-07-29T19:01:07  <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 29 19:01:06 2021 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
264 2021-07-29T19:01:07  <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
265 2021-07-29T19:01:22  <hebasto> hi
266 2021-07-29T19:01:23  <laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos
267 2021-07-29T19:01:24  <laanwj> nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
268 2021-07-29T19:01:26  <gene> hi
269 2021-07-29T19:01:28  <gleb> hi
270 2021-07-29T19:01:30  <sipa> hi
271 2021-07-29T19:01:35  <achow101> hi
272 2021-07-29T19:01:39  <kanzure> hi
273 2021-07-29T19:01:42  <kvaciral[m]> hi
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275 2021-07-29T19:02:48  <laanwj> welcome to the weekly bitcoin-core-dev meeting, no pre-proposed meetings for today
276 2021-07-29T19:02:55  <jonatack> hi
277 2021-07-29T19:02:56  <laanwj> topics*
278 2021-07-29T19:03:00  <laanwj> any last minute topics?
279 2021-07-29T19:03:13  <gleb> I have one
280 2021-07-29T19:03:16  <ariard> hi
281 2021-07-29T19:03:34  <ariard> quick coredev updates
282 2021-07-29T19:03:45  <gleb> "Acceptable transaction relay latency"
283 2021-07-29T19:03:58  <laanwj> 22.0rc1 ran into guix build problems, we'll be doing a rc2 soon
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285 2021-07-29T19:04:38  <laanwj> #topic High priority for review
286 2021-07-29T19:04:38  <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
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288 2021-07-29T19:04:55  <laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8   8 PRs currently tagged as blockers
289 2021-07-29T19:05:09  <laanwj> is there anything to add, remove or that is (almost) ready for merge?
290 2021-07-29T19:07:18  <laanwj> seems not!
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292 2021-07-29T19:07:45  <laanwj> then let's move to the next topic
293 2021-07-29T19:07:47  <laanwj> #topic Acceptable transaction relay latency (gleb)
294 2021-07-29T19:07:47  <core-meetingbot> topic: Acceptable transaction relay latency (gleb)
295 2021-07-29T19:08:52  <sipa> gleb: ?
296 2021-07-29T19:08:53  <gleb> Yeah so after a slight protocol update to Erlay we discussed here at some point, it becomes apparent how sacrificing some latency allows to save bandwidth. The trade-off is somewhat non-trivial...
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298 2021-07-29T19:09:40  <gleb> My estimates show a transaction takes 4-5 seconds to relay across 95% of the nodes
299 2021-07-29T19:09:55  <sipa> right now?
300 2021-07-29T19:09:58  <gleb> Yes
301 2021-07-29T19:10:12  <gleb> What if we increased it to 10 seconds? How we should even think about these numbers
302 2021-07-29T19:10:18  <sipa> is that a measurement of the network, or something you conclude from simulating something like the current network?
303 2021-07-29T19:10:19  <gleb> For a good reason, of course.
304 2021-07-29T19:10:36  <gleb> simulating, but also I saw someone confirming this independently from me.
305 2021-07-29T19:11:37  <sipa> i think that anything that is "small" compared to the interblock time is fine, but perhaps this is more something to discuss on the ML?
306 2021-07-29T19:12:13  <gleb> sipa: hm, good point, maybe ML or slow-communication github issue is a better venue.
307 2021-07-29T19:12:20  <gleb> Also, I hear your point about interblock time.
308 2021-07-29T19:12:41  <gleb> For now just getting quick feedback.
309 2021-07-29T19:13:38  <gleb> Okay, I guess no other opinions for now :) Let's move on then.
310 2021-07-29T19:13:58  <sipa> can also be discussed on the PR i guess
311 2021-07-29T19:14:10  <gleb> It becomes unreadable :(
312 2021-07-29T19:14:20  <sipa> yeah...
313 2021-07-29T19:14:22  <gleb> I already feel somewhat bad for having 100 resolved comments there
314 2021-07-29T19:14:33  <jonatack> maybe a dedicated issue
315 2021-07-29T19:14:40  <laanwj> right just make a new issue
316 2021-07-29T19:14:57  <gleb> yeah gonna do that.
317 2021-07-29T19:15:03  <laanwj> github's lack of a threading structure makes that necessary
318 2021-07-29T19:15:24  <laanwj> #topic Coredev updates (ariard)
319 2021-07-29T19:15:25  <core-meetingbot> topic: Coredev updates (ariard)
320 2021-07-29T19:15:27  <ariard> hi
321 2021-07-29T19:15:54  <ariard> so restrictions in france aren't improving, we're discussing with others orgas to move in another country
322 2021-07-29T19:16:03  <ariard> top candidate for now is switzerland
323 2021-07-29T19:16:16  <ariard> dates will stay the same
324 2021-07-29T19:16:47  <ariard> they do have a nice tool to check the conditions of entries here, like which vaccins are accepted, which countries :https://travelcheck.admin.ch/home
325 2021-07-29T19:17:02  <jonatack> restrictions certainly are a moving target
326 2021-07-29T19:17:17  <jarolrod> iceland?
327 2021-07-29T19:17:46  <jarolrod> although i believe they have restrictions against eastern block countries
328 2021-07-29T19:17:56  <ariard> jarolrod: note, there is a visa issue, we do have attendees coming from asia/non-first class countries
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330 2021-07-29T19:18:10  <ariard> switzerland is okay for uk/usa/eu, i'm still checking for the other cases
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332 2021-07-29T19:18:28  <ariard> and the good thing it will be easier to accesss for our american friends :)
333 2021-07-29T19:18:34  <jarolrod> ah yes. Very complicated. Thank you to those coordinating and doing the work :)
334 2021-07-29T19:18:55  <ariard> so we'll take a decision before august 23rd (or 3 meeting from now)
335 2021-07-29T19:19:26  <jonatack> (i recently recalled that i know the owner of an amazing chateau here and it would have been pretty amazing to do it there...maybe next time)
336 2021-07-29T19:19:37  <ariard> meanwhile, gonna send a mail for topics collection/signal group in the coming weeks
337 2021-07-29T19:20:04  <ariard> stats levels, we do have 33 yes so far, and sponsoring for travel subsidies should be okay
338 2021-07-29T19:20:24  <ariard> voila, if you have nay question feel free to reach jonatack or schmidty or me, staying available
339 2021-07-29T19:20:33  <ariard> *any
340 2021-07-29T19:20:37  <jarolrod> thanks for the update!
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342 2021-07-29T19:21:17  <laanwj> yes, thanks for the update, and for sticking with it, it's definitely not easy this time
343 2021-07-29T19:21:32  <sipa> one day we will meet again! in person!
344 2021-07-29T19:21:37  <laanwj> yess
345 2021-07-29T19:22:15  <laanwj> any other topics for today?
346 2021-07-29T19:23:03  <laanwj> #endmeeting
347 2021-07-29T19:23:03  <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
348 2021-07-29T19:23:03  <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Jul 29 19:23:03 2021 UTC.
349 2021-07-29T19:23:03  <core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-07-29-19.01.moin.txt
350 2021-07-29T19:23:08  <hebasto> laanwj: did you see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22536#issuecomment-887882522?
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352 2021-07-29T19:23:57  <laanwj> hebasto: yes
353 2021-07-29T19:24:33  <laanwj> hebasto: they just deleted the entire german translation?!?
354 2021-07-29T19:24:57  <hebasto> all translated strings are English now
355 2021-07-29T19:25:14  <hebasto> so, effectively, translation removed
356 2021-07-29T19:25:15  <laanwj> we can just upload back the previous file right
357 2021-07-29T19:25:32  <laanwj> and kick that person out (i guess)
358 2021-07-29T19:26:49  <laanwj> it would be good to have review teams for more languages to prevent this kind of nonsense from happening
359 2021-07-29T19:27:08  <hebasto> in repo we have a TS file, and it should be an XLIFF to upload
360 2021-07-29T19:27:31  <hebasto> have you any contacts to German translation ppl?
361 2021-07-29T19:27:42  <laanwj> don't tell me the download script deletes the xliff source data
362 2021-07-29T19:28:35  <hebasto> it does
363 2021-07-29T19:28:41  <laanwj> no, i don't, i don't have contact with any of the translators
364 2021-07-29T19:29:05  <laanwj> is it possible to convert the ts back to xliff
365 2021-07-29T19:29:25  <hebasto> yes, I'll try to sort it out
366 2021-07-29T19:29:43  <laanwj> it's too bad that transifex itself doesn't have a revert feature
367 2021-07-29T19:29:50  <laanwj> we can't be the only project having to cope with vandalism
368 2021-07-29T19:30:25  <hebasto> could it be a fatal error of newbie translator?
369 2021-07-29T19:30:43  <laanwj> i guess
370 2021-07-29T19:30:54  <laanwj> they do make it really easy to mess things up
371 2021-07-29T19:31:34  <laanwj> e.g. everyone can upload a whole new translation file, not just admins
372 2021-07-29T19:31:45  <laanwj> too trustful for this world
373 2021-07-29T19:32:01  <hebasto> I thought it is a configurable feature, no?
374 2021-07-29T19:32:33  <laanwj> I don't think so (but maybe that changed)
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379 2021-07-29T19:42:14  <bitcoin-git> [gui] ShaMan239 opened pull request #391: qt: Add cancel button to configuration options popup (master...cancel-conf) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/391
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402 2021-07-29T22:23:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #22586: p2p, refactor: fix ubsan implicit conversion error in CSubNet::ToString() (master...fix-netaddress-implicit-signed-integer-truncation) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22586
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