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 12 2021-08-12T01:00:32  <fanquake> I've pushed up a tag for v0.21.2rc1
 13 2021-08-12T01:00:39  <fanquake> Hopefully everyone remembers how to gitian buildd
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 15 2021-08-12T01:01:19  <achow101> \o/
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 24 2021-08-12T02:16:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #22686: wallet: Use GetSelectionAmount in ApproximateBestSubset (master...use-getselectionvalue) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22686
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 31 2021-08-12T03:07:18  <fanquake> sipa / wumpus: can you block ljkt7334
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 43 2021-08-12T04:03:42  <laanwj> congrats on your first tag fanquake
 44 2021-08-12T04:08:40  <_aj_> #fanquake
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 66 2021-08-12T08:45:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22688: contrb: use `keyserver.ubuntu.com` to retrieve builder keys (master...use_ubuntu_keyserver) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22688
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 68 2021-08-12T08:48:20  <vasild> What's the preferred way to choose (hopefully) unused ports in the functional tests, in addition to p2p and rpc?
 69 2021-08-12T08:51:59  <vasild> Just hardcoding a seemingly random port and binding to it seems like a bad idea - will collide with something sooner or later.
 70 2021-08-12T08:58:18  <darosior> vasild: bind to 0? The kernel will give you an available port
 71 2021-08-12T08:58:49  <vasild> :-O
 72 2021-08-12T08:58:59  <vasild> I wasn't aware of that
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 75 2021-08-12T09:03:06  <vasild> darosior: it is not a generic solution because in many cases we want to tell bitcoind (from tests): "please bind on port 1234" and then we try to connect to 1234 from the tests, so bitcoind would have to bind to 0 and somehow report the port it got. But in my case where I do the bind() from the python testing framework it may work, trying...
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 77 2021-08-12T09:11:00  <darosior> It may be a bit racy but in the first scenario you could always do a dummy bind() on the Python side (with SO_REUSEADDR to avoid waiting) to get an available port and pass that to bitcoind. There is very little chance a process on the host machine would decide to bind to this port in the meantime
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 79 2021-08-12T09:13:19  <vasild> darosior: yeah, but that's not necessary as for now I am just looking at the simpler scenario where the listener is the python code
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 81 2021-08-12T09:42:53  <vasild> darosior: It works! Excellent suggestion, thanks!
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 83 2021-08-12T10:28:10  <laanwj> we need some standard way in the test framework for tests to request extra ports, i guess
 84 2021-08-12T10:28:47  <laanwj> make sure they're all given out in a similar way to minimize clashes
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 96 2021-08-12T11:37:06  <laanwj> i guess some of the tests (such as the socks proxy one) already need an extra port
 97 2021-08-12T11:47:38  <vasild> laanwj: "make sure they're all given out in a similar way to minimize clashes" -- indeed!
 98 2021-08-12T11:48:29  <vasild> we lack such a way, maybe introduce extra_port(node_number) in addition to p2p_port(node_number) and rpc_port(node_number)
 99 2021-08-12T11:49:22  <vasild> a workaround trick would be to use p2p_port(n) with n > number of nodes used in the test and n < MAX_NODES (12)
100 2021-08-12T11:49:59  <vasild> e.g. if a test uses 3 nodes, then p2p_port(4) is going to be free
101 2021-08-12T12:12:15  <laanwj> that might be a good idea, can't think of any issue with that
102 2021-08-12T12:12:58  <laanwj> though it will be important to comment the intent in the code when doing that, to make future maintainers not scratch their head :)
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122 2021-08-12T14:12:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] josibake opened pull request #22689: rpc: properly deprecate mempool entry fee fields (master...josibake-deprecate-mempool-entry-fee-fields) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22689
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145 2021-08-12T16:53:56  <shiza> I find <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.21/doc/release-notes.md> a little bit arid compared to <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/22.x/doc/release-notes.md>?
146 2021-08-12T16:57:13  <laanwj> the 22.0 preliminary release notes are still on the wiki (link should be at the top), they'll be merged into the branch after the rcs
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148 2021-08-12T17:03:33  <bitcoin-git> [gui] hebasto merged pull request #360: Unregister wallet notifications before unloading wallets (master...pr/qtwd) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/360
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151 2021-08-12T17:03:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9948f114f8e6...439e58c4d819
152 2021-08-12T17:03:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 93cc53a Russell Yanofsky: gui: Unregister wallet notifications before unloading wallets
153 2021-08-12T17:03:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 439e58c Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#360: Unregister wallet notifications before unloadi...
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155 2021-08-12T17:10:50  <shiza> laanwj: Ah, I was trying to capture the attention on the upcoming 0.21 release notes.
156 2021-08-12T17:11:53  <shiza> I think there's a new release manager for that, just trying to keep an extra eye.
157 2021-08-12T17:28:29  <luke-jr> I think #21848 introduces a bug in the case the user has configured a large (>4 GB) mempool with high descendant limits, and spams his mempool with >4 GB of chained transactions
158 2021-08-12T17:28:32  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21848 | refactor: Make CFeeRate constructor architecture-independent by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #21848 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
159 2021-08-12T17:29:28  <luke-jr> possibly something needs to trigger TrimToSize also
160 2021-08-12T17:29:50  <luke-jr> (but not when/if #21422 gets merged)
161 2021-08-12T17:29:53  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21422 | Add feerate histogram to getmempoolinfo by kiminuo · Pull Request #21422 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
162 2021-08-12T17:31:13  <luke-jr> very edge case, but might be better to fix it
163 2021-08-12T17:31:26  <luke-jr> MarcoFalke: ^ thoughts?
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168 2021-08-12T17:46:51  <Guest32> Is Homomorphic Encryption used in any known coin?
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171 2021-08-12T18:01:07  <luke-jr> Guest32: off-topic here
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178 2021-08-12T18:23:38  <Guest32> luke-jr Where would be a good place to ask this?
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188 2021-08-12T18:55:35  <michaelfolkson> Guest32: https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/homomorphic-encryption
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190 2021-08-12T18:57:39  <michaelfolkson> I think Grin, Beam do but yeah off topic here https://medium.com/scalar-capital/behind-mimblewimble-cd9da78a00e9
191 2021-08-12T19:00:22  <laanwj> #startmeeting
192 2021-08-12T19:00:23  <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 12 19:00:22 2021 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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194 2021-08-12T19:00:45  <laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos
195 2021-08-12T19:00:46  <laanwj> nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
196 2021-08-12T19:00:49  <meshcollider> hi
197 2021-08-12T19:00:52  <gene> hi
198 2021-08-12T19:00:53  <larryruane> hi
199 2021-08-12T19:00:53  <laanwj> welcome to the weekly bitcoin-core-dev meeting
200 2021-08-12T19:00:57  <michaelfolkson> hi
201 2021-08-12T19:00:58  <jonatack> hi
202 2021-08-12T19:01:00  <jamesob> hi
203 2021-08-12T19:01:04  <achow101> hi
204 2021-08-12T19:01:07  <laanwj> there have been no proposed topics using #proposedmeetingtopic
205 2021-08-12T19:01:13  <laanwj> any last minute ones?
206 2021-08-12T19:01:43  <jamesob> can I talk about the state of assumeutxo? pretty brief, mostly a beg
207 2021-08-12T19:01:45  <laanwj> PSA: 0.21.2rc1 was tagged today
208 2021-08-12T19:02:05  <laanwj> jamesob: sure!
209 2021-08-12T19:02:09  <laanwj> i'll announce the topic
210 2021-08-12T19:02:46  <gleb7> Hi
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212 2021-08-12T19:03:23  <laanwj> we'll start with "high priority for review" as usual
213 2021-08-12T19:03:35  <laanwj> #topic High priority for review
214 2021-08-12T19:03:35  <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
215 2021-08-12T19:03:40  <hebasto> hi
216 2021-08-12T19:03:42  <kanzure> hi
217 2021-08-12T19:04:04  <laanwj> current status: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8   5 blockers, no bugfixes or chasing concept ACK
218 2021-08-12T19:04:26  <laanwj> anything to add/remove, or that is ready for merge?
219 2021-08-12T19:06:00  <jonatack> i'm going through #21526 commit-by-commit right now.  spent some time while my machine was blocked gitian building today to catch up on the context and progress.
220 2021-08-12T19:06:05  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21526 | validation: UpdateTip/CheckBlockIndex assumeutxo support by jamesob · Pull Request #21526 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
221 2021-08-12T19:06:25  <laanwj> jonatack: great!
222 2021-08-12T19:06:47  <jonatack> (it's been through a number of review cycles and seems close)
223 2021-08-12T19:07:03  <laanwj> that's good to know
224 2021-08-12T19:07:36  <laanwj> no one has new high prio PRs to propose?
225 2021-08-12T19:08:02  <jonatack> i wonder if #22651 and #22648 should be considered for 22.0 but might be late for it
226 2021-08-12T19:08:06  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22651 | tor: respect non-onion -onlynet= for outgoing Tor connections by vasild · Pull Request #22651 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
227 2021-08-12T19:08:08  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22648 | doc, test: improve i2p/tor docs and i2p reachable unit tests by jonatack · Pull Request #22648 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
228 2021-08-12T19:08:43  <laanwj> only if they're considered bugfixes
229 2021-08-12T19:08:44  <jonatack> this seems to be a source of new confusion for people who are running I2P for the first time
230 2021-08-12T19:09:14  <luke-jr> would be nice to finally get #12677 in
231 2021-08-12T19:09:17  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12677 | RPC: Add ancestor{count,size,fees} to listunspent output by luke-jr · Pull Request #12677 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
232 2021-08-12T19:09:24  <laanwj> as for the doc PR, sure
233 2021-08-12T19:10:18  <laanwj> luke-jr: added
234 2021-08-12T19:11:12  <laanwj> #topic The state of assumeutxo (jamesob)
235 2021-08-12T19:11:12  <core-meetingbot> topic: The state of assumeutxo (jamesob)
236 2021-08-12T19:11:23  <jamesob> many of you are probably familiar with assumeutxo (#15606). I think this is a pretty high-value feature that not only solves some existing problems today (e.g. people offering GPG-signed datadirs to speed bootstrapping in various thirdparty projects, linear-time IBD which isn't scalable), but also promises some interesting optimizations down the road (e.g. parallel n chainstate validation a la utreexo).
237 2021-08-12T19:11:26  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15606 | assumeutxo by jamesob · Pull Request #15606 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
238 2021-08-12T19:12:03  <jamesob> (worth noting that AU has also helped other interesting projects like chainstate deglobalization and so indirectly libbitcoinkernel)
239 2021-08-12T19:12:08  <jamesob> the draft implementation of this has been under review for almost two and a half years now, and I'm a little concerned with the rate of progress - especially relative to the effort needed to keep the change rebased. At this rate it feels like it'll be another two years before the feature is actually available to end users.
240 2021-08-12T19:12:22  <jamesob> 15606 has recently undergone thorough review by ryanofsky, and subsequently I made a number of improvements based on his feedback. I think the PR is in a pretty good state, with functional tests, scripts, release notes, doc etc. and I'd like to do anything I can to help get it reviewed and merged in a timely way.
241 2021-08-12T19:12:43  <jamesob> if others could look the PR over I'd be really thankful, and I'm curious if anyone has any good ideas for how we might expedite the process so that assumeutxo isn't in progress for another few years; e.g. should I be doing larger PRs so as to consolidate review/test cycles?
242 2021-08-12T19:13:12  <jonatack> jamesob: it might be helpful to clarify in the 15606 where 21526 fits in the roadmap
243 2021-08-12T19:13:53  <laanwj> we should be able to merge feature PRs quicker while we're early in the 23.0 release cycle
244 2021-08-12T19:14:03  <jamesob> jonatack: sure - 21526 is just the first few commits of 15606; the latter represents the complete set of commits needed to implement assumeutxo
245 2021-08-12T19:14:04  <laanwj> but I guess it's all bottlenecked by review as usual
246 2021-08-12T19:14:06  <jonatack> jamesob: i ended up ~figuring it out by going through the various docs
247 2021-08-12T19:14:13  <luke-jr> I think smaller PRs would go faster, but maybe it's just me
248 2021-08-12T19:14:24  <jonatack> yes
249 2021-08-12T19:14:51  <laanwj> there's definitely a compromise there, too small PRs and people get tired of reviewing them if there's no clear forward progress
250 2021-08-12T19:14:53  <jamesob> luke-jr: that's what I've been trying to do, but smaller PRs seem to take almost a fixed amount of time in overhead, and part of me wonders if it doesn't make sense to amortize review and test
251 2021-08-12T19:15:21  <jamesob> e.g. the taproot PRs were fairly large and everyone was able to focus review/test on just a few PRs
252 2021-08-12T19:15:25  <laanwj> but too many changes at once and everyone just puts it off
253 2021-08-12T19:15:45  <laanwj> yes
254 2021-08-12T19:15:50  <jonatack> jamesob: istm that there has some ongoing (and good) redesigning too that bubbles back across the changes
255 2021-08-12T19:16:12  <jamesob> istm?
256 2021-08-12T19:16:35  <jonatack> it seems to me. so that adds time but if the result is better...
257 2021-08-12T19:16:50  <laanwj> i agree it's taking very long
258 2021-08-12T19:16:53  <jamesob> there have certainly been some minor redesigns, but I would say they are essentially marginal refactors done for clarity
259 2021-08-12T19:17:14  <jamesob> but of course I don't want to merge anything doesn't meet our standards
260 2021-08-12T19:17:32  <jamesob> I'm just concerned that this has taken 2.5 years and I'm _maybe_ halfway through
261 2021-08-12T19:17:49  <laanwj> you definitely didn't pick the easiest thing to integrate
262 2021-08-12T19:17:55  <jamesob> haha, that's fair
263 2021-08-12T19:18:21  <sipa> yeah, and it's something pretty invasive that many people perhaps aren't very keen on touching
264 2021-08-12T19:18:33  <jonatack> yes, just been trying to catch up today on the context. progress could very well accelerate at a tipping point of "it's ready" :)
265 2021-08-12T19:18:39  <luke-jr> I've avoided it because it feels huge, though looking at the current diff maybe not too bad
266 2021-08-12T19:18:56  <sipa> (by which i don't mean it shouldn't be done - just that reviewers tend to focus on other more shortterm things)
267 2021-08-12T19:19:17  <jamesob> well hey as long as you guys will write me attestations for sponsors that this thing is worth devoting time to lol
268 2021-08-12T19:19:53  <jamesob> anyway, thanks for the consideration
269 2021-08-12T19:20:04  <laanwj> thanks for the update!
270 2021-08-12T19:20:15  <laanwj> i really hope it won't take another two years
271 2021-08-12T19:20:46  <laanwj> any other topics for today?
272 2021-08-12T19:20:52  <michaelfolkson> As laanwj says next few months seems like a good opportunity to make speedier progress as things seem to be quieter
273 2021-08-12T19:20:54  <larryruane> there's something of a paradox, because when something is well-written (as I suspect this is), people are reluctant to review because they suspect they won't come up with anything to suggest
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275 2021-08-12T19:21:28  <jamesob> larryruane: I've proposed a number of bugs over the years so that absolutely shouldn't be the case :P
276 2021-08-12T19:21:36  <larryruane> haha
277 2021-08-12T19:21:42  <michaelfolkson> Higher up the priority list now (perhaps)
278 2021-08-12T19:22:18  <laanwj> right
279 2021-08-12T19:23:22  <laanwj> #endmeeting
280 2021-08-12T19:23:22  <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
281 2021-08-12T19:23:22  <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Aug 12 19:23:21 2021 UTC.
282 2021-08-12T19:23:22  <core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-08-12-19.00.moin.txt
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285 2021-08-12T19:31:38  <jonatack> PR 22648 (the I2P doc one) depends in part on the -onlynet bugfix PR 22651, so it's best if that one is merged or postponed first
286 2021-08-12T19:32:32  <jonatack> so the documentation in 22648 is correct
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288 2021-08-12T19:46:10  <bitcoin-git> [gui] luke-jr opened pull request #404: Fix various edge case bugs in QValidatedLineEdit (master...bugfix_qvalidlineedit) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/404
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