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 13 2021-09-02T00:30:01  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d2a09c8 Pieter Wuille: doc: mention bech32m/BIP350 in doc/descriptors.md
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 36 2021-09-02T01:35:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 96cc6bb Carl Dong: guix/prelude: Override VERSION with FORCE_VERSION
 37 2021-09-02T01:35:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9487b68 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22847: guix/prelude: Override `VERSION` with `FORCE_...
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 40 2021-09-02T01:35:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22847: guix/prelude: Override `VERSION` with `FORCE_VERSION` (master...2021-08-SDE-based-on-VERSION) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22847
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 46 2021-09-02T01:42:46  <fanquake> meshcollider: nice to see you've fixed your clock heh
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 49 2021-09-02T01:44:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 76f031b fanquake: build: fix unoptimized libraries in depends
 50 2021-09-02T01:44:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3af495d fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22840: build: fix unoptimized libraries in depends
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 63 2021-09-02T02:41:49  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 56a42f1 Pieter Wuille: Stricter BIP32 decoding and test vector 5
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 71 2021-09-02T02:46:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa18553 MarcoFalke: fuzz: Remove addrdb fuzz target
 72 2021-09-02T02:46:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 43bf824 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22853: fuzz: Remove addrdb fuzz target
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 86 2021-09-02T03:26:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5559cf1 Hennadii Stepanov: doc: Add packages that provide Qt Wayland plugin for Linux
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104 2021-09-02T05:27:12  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22859: Replace uses of boost::trim* with locale-independent alternatives (#18130 rebased) (master...18130_rebased) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22859
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107 2021-09-02T05:28:01  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #18130: Replace uses of boost::trim* with locale-independent alternatives (master...2020-02-boost-trim) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18130
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116 2021-09-02T07:04:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/77e77e8544c7...6bf706a0560d
117 2021-09-02T07:04:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 97cea1a Antoine Poinsot: policy: unit test Segwit dust thresholds
118 2021-09-02T07:04:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6bf706a MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22846: policy: unit test Segwit dust thresholds
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121 2021-09-02T07:05:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22846: policy: unit test Segwit dust thresholds (master...unit_test_getdustthreshold) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22846
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132 2021-09-02T07:42:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #22860: test: Always clear reject reason in IsStandard tx test (master...2109-testRej) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22860
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135 2021-09-02T07:44:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6bf706a0560d...d6034e41226e
136 2021-09-02T07:44:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ae4ad1a fanquake: msvc: update bitcoin_config.h defines
137 2021-09-02T07:44:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d6034e4 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22843: msvc: update bitcoin_config.h defines
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140 2021-09-02T07:44:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22843: msvc: update bitcoin_config.h defines (master...update_msvc_bitcoin_configg) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22843
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148 2021-09-02T08:11:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d6034e41226e...245462b66ce3
149 2021-09-02T08:11:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ab9c342 fanquake: release: remove gitian
150 2021-09-02T08:11:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 245462b MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22418: release: Remove gitian
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153 2021-09-02T08:11:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22418: release: Remove gitian (master...remove_gitian) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22418
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156 2021-09-02T08:27:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #22861: test: Update test README and lint script (master...2109-testDoc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22861
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164 2021-09-02T09:27:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/245462b66ce3...b997dd211ecf
165 2021-09-02T09:27:20  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa2e9de MarcoFalke: test: Check that non-signaling BIP125 tx can be replaced via parent
166 2021-09-02T09:27:20  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b997dd2 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22809: test: Check that non-signaling BIP125 tx can ...
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169 2021-09-02T09:27:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22809: test: Check that non-signaling BIP125 tx can be replaced via parent (master...2108-testTxReplace) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22809
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184 2021-09-02T11:45:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] darosior opened pull request #22863: policy: document dust threshold for Taproot outputs (master...dust_threshold_doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22863
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187 2021-09-02T11:45:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] darosior closed pull request #22779: policy: correct (lower) the dust threshold for Taproot outputs (master...taproot_dust_limit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22779
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195 2021-09-02T12:32:08  <bitcoin-git> [gui] Sjors opened pull request #416: gui: add RPC setting (master...2021/09/rpc_setting) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/416
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204 2021-09-02T13:30:26  <jonatack> On the topic of addr monitoring... #22501 has 5 ACKs (and 5 re-ACKs or so after updating it for addr_rate_limited, too) if anyone is in the mood to merge it in...been running it since mid-July
205 2021-09-02T13:30:28  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22501 | netinfo: display addr_{processed, rate_limited, relay_enabled} and relaytxes data by jonatack · Pull Request #22501 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
206 2021-09-02T13:31:02  <jonatack> after updating it for *addr_relay_enabled
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214 2021-09-02T14:24:35  <michaelfolkson> jonatack: Does seem ready to merge. Happy to test it and add another ACK if needed.
215 2021-09-02T14:25:02  <michaelfolkson> What was the response to sipa's point? "I'm really not convinced these numbers are sufficiently important to turn into a new field, unless the expectation is that many more things will be added to it."
216 2021-09-02T14:25:17  <michaelfolkson> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22501#issuecomment-884660105
217 2021-09-02T14:25:47  <michaelfolkson> Oh I think you ditched those numbers
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223 2021-09-02T14:55:25  <laanwj> jonatack: looking at it
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225 2021-09-02T15:00:07  <jonatack> michaelfolkson: i read that comment as referring to adding an additional developer-oriented details level, which i agree with, but since i'm close to it from always having a terminal buffer open with it, i'm used to all the detail and wasn't sure if it was becoming hard to grok :)
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227 2021-09-02T15:00:25  <jonatack> laanwj: thanks!
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229 2021-09-02T15:01:22  <jonatack> michaelfolkson: *i agree with (sipa's comment)
230 2021-09-02T15:03:56  <michaelfolkson> jonatack: Cool. Always hard to gauge the granularity of fields that people would use/appreciate :)
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233 2021-09-02T15:13:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b997dd211ecf...a70768d15964
234 2021-09-02T15:13:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5eeea8e Jon Atack: Add addr_processed and addr_rate_limited stats to -netinfo
235 2021-09-02T15:13:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0a9ee3a Jon Atack: Simplify a few conditionals in -netinfo
236 2021-09-02T15:13:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3834e23 Jon Atack: Display peers in -netinfo that request we not relay transactions
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239 2021-09-02T15:13:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #22501: netinfo: display addr_{processed, rate_limited, relay_enabled} and relaytxes data (master...netinfo-addr-statistics) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22501
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252 2021-09-02T16:06:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a70768d15964...dd097c42df73
253 2021-09-02T16:06:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ea98d9c Sebastian Falbesoner: rpc: fix/add missing RPCExamples for "Util" RPCs
254 2021-09-02T16:06:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dd097c4 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#18448: rpc: fix/add missing RPCExamples for "Util" R...
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257 2021-09-02T16:06:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #18448: rpc: fix/add missing RPCExamples for "Util" RPCs (master...20200326-rpc-add-fix-rpcexamples-in-misc-category) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18448
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268 2021-09-02T16:55:31  <provoostenator> hebasto: the v22 release notes mention -natpmp,  but they  don'nt mention GUI support yet, which was also added
269 2021-09-02T17:06:45  <hebasto> provoostenator: thanks, just double checking https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/22.0-Release-Notes-draft#gui right now
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274 2021-09-02T17:54:31  <jonatack> laanwj: mentioning as i may be late for the meeting, #22702 is out of WIP; perhaps add to high-priority
275 2021-09-02T17:54:33  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22702 | Add allocator for node based containers by martinus · Pull Request #22702 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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284 2021-09-02T18:51:02  <laanwj> jonatack: added
285 2021-09-02T19:00:01  <laanwj> #startmeeting
286 2021-09-02T19:00:01  <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Sep  2 19:00:01 2021 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
287 2021-09-02T19:00:01  <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
288 2021-09-02T19:00:11  <gene> hi
289 2021-09-02T19:00:19  <kvaciral[m]> hi
290 2021-09-02T19:00:31  <hebasto> hi
291 2021-09-02T19:00:34  <laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos
292 2021-09-02T19:00:36  <laanwj> nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
293 2021-09-02T19:00:39  <achow101> hi
294 2021-09-02T19:00:41  <meshcollider> hi
295 2021-09-02T19:00:46  <michaelfolkson> hi
296 2021-09-02T19:01:10  <cfields> hi
297 2021-09-02T19:01:15  <dongcarl> hi
298 2021-09-02T19:01:17  <luke-jr> hi
299 2021-09-02T19:01:24  <laanwj> there have been no topics proposed using #proposedmeetingtopic this week
300 2021-09-02T19:01:33  <laanwj> any last minute ones people would like to discuss?
301 2021-09-02T19:01:57  <larryruane> hi
302 2021-09-02T19:02:03  <laanwj> how are we with 22.0? looks like rc3 is holding up quite well
303 2021-09-02T19:02:45  <laanwj> or have people encountered regressions/bugs?
304 2021-09-02T19:03:22  <kanzure> hi
305 2021-09-02T19:03:23  <laanwj> or anything else that will make a rc4 necessary
306 2021-09-02T19:03:38  <achow101> doesn't seem like it
307 2021-09-02T19:03:38  <sipa> i haven't seen anything
308 2021-09-02T19:03:53  <laanwj> fantastic
309 2021-09-02T19:05:08  <laanwj> so maybe we can tag final this/next week, let's see
310 2021-09-02T19:05:12  <laanwj> #topic High priority for review
311 2021-09-02T19:05:12  <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
312 2021-09-02T19:05:42  <laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8 currently 7 blockers, 2 chasing concept ACK
313 2021-09-02T19:05:57  <achow101> #17526 for me
314 2021-09-02T19:06:00  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17526 | Use Single Random Draw In addition to knapsack as coin selection fallback by achow101 · Pull Request #17526 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
315 2021-09-02T19:06:44  <laanwj> achow101: added
316 2021-09-02T19:07:03  <laanwj> anything else to add/remove or that is (almost) ready for merge?
317 2021-09-02T19:07:14  <glozow> could i get #22675 please?
318 2021-09-02T19:07:18  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22675 | RBF move 2/3: extract RBF logic into policy/rbf by glozow · Pull Request #22675 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
319 2021-09-02T19:07:29  <michaelfolkson> What's the latest on the build work for Minisketch? #21859
320 2021-09-02T19:07:32  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21859 | Add minisketch subtree and integrate in build/test by sipa · Pull Request #21859 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
321 2021-09-02T19:08:10  <laanwj> glozow: added!
322 2021-09-02T19:08:33  <sipa> once https://github.com/sipa/minisketch/pull/45 is in (and possible other cleanups), i'll update 21859 to follow the approach suggested by cfields and fanquake
323 2021-09-02T19:09:44  <michaelfolkson> sipa: Cool
324 2021-09-02T19:11:57  <laanwj> another urgent request for review (if we're going to tag final soonish) would be the 22.0 draft release notes: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/22.0-Release-Notes-draft
325 2021-09-02T19:12:57  <sipa> laanwj: +1
326 2021-09-02T19:13:12  <hebasto> ^^ working on it
327 2021-09-02T19:13:32  <laanwj> any other PRs? or other topics?
328 2021-09-02T19:13:35  <laanwj> hebasto: thanks
329 2021-09-02T19:14:59  <laanwj> that was a short meeting again, thanks everyone for attending
330 2021-09-02T19:15:01  <laanwj> #endmeeting
331 2021-09-02T19:15:02  <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
332 2021-09-02T19:15:02  <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Sep  2 19:15:01 2021 UTC.
333 2021-09-02T19:15:02  <core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-09-02-19.00.moin.txt
334 2021-09-02T19:15:26  <gene> been thinking about adding support for cbor RPC, should that idea be floated on the mailing list before starting work?
335 2021-09-02T19:16:29  <hebasto> provoostenator: 22.0 draft release notes about added nat-pmp support matches a191e23b8e7f0e19fc0359825eb7ca0d47966fa9 commit
336 2021-09-02T19:16:46  <hebasto> not sure how to mention it in the GUI section nicely
337 2021-09-02T19:17:39  <sipa> gene: i'd suggest opening an issue, where you describe the advantages, what kind of changes would be required, etc...
338 2021-09-02T19:17:53  <sipa> the ML would be inappropriate I think, as it's not a protocol issue
339 2021-09-02T19:18:23  <gene> sipa: thanks, will work on a write-up, and open an issue
340 2021-09-02T19:18:35  <laanwj> yes, it's not a ML issue, the RPC is specific to the bitcoin core implementation
341 2021-09-02T19:19:58  <gene> laanwj: that makes sense, just wasn't sure since it would have implications for clients interacting with the core implementation
342 2021-09-02T19:20:03  <laanwj> i personally don't see much chance that JSON will be replaced
343 2021-09-02T19:20:17  <gene> right, not a replacement, an addition
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345 2021-09-02T19:20:58  <gene> basically mirroring current RPC on another port that accepts CBOR instead of JSON
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349 2021-09-02T19:21:43  <gene> mainly thinking of it as an advantage for mobile clients, and anyone developing IoT clients
350 2021-09-02T19:24:15  <cfields> why not just put a proxy translator in the middle?
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352 2021-09-02T19:25:13  <gene> cfields: thought about doing that, too. writing a small rust program that takes in CBOR, translates to JSON, then passes to current RPC
353 2021-09-02T19:25:47  <gene> will make sure to include that as an alternative in the issue write-up
354 2021-09-02T19:27:25  <gene> the proxy has a number of advantages, like not adding more code (and thus attack surface, maintenance cost) to bitcoin core
355 2021-09-02T19:28:09  <gene> disadvantages would be users would need to install an additional program along with bitcoin core
356 2021-09-02T19:29:00  <gene> plus the translation overhead, rather than calling into the RPC backend directly from deserialized CBOR
357 2021-09-02T19:29:12  <glozow> laanwj: thank you for adding!
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359 2021-09-02T19:31:33  <laanwj> gene: what i think you need to specfically elaborate on is that, in the hypothetical case we'd add another interface in parallel to JSON, why CBOR specifically? why is it suited to software like this. e.g. it seems JSON is very well supported in mobile, almost everything uses some javascript kind of thing nowadays.
360 2021-09-02T19:34:27  <gene> laanwj: ok, will make sure to cover those topics. briefly, CBOR has an RFC, and is becoming the de-facto protocol for data constrained devices. because of the smaller data footprint, it would save mobile/IoT users money on their data plans
361 2021-09-02T19:34:39  <laanwj> also if it's meant for communication with *remote* clients, it must be tunneled over something else already, so the extra overhead of a proxy isn't that much i'd expect
362 2021-09-02T19:35:13  <cfields> I dunno about cbor, but json can be deserialized from a stream in realtime. Assuming cbor has the same property, you could potentially multiplex the decode/encode for minimal latency.
363 2021-09-02T19:35:38  <gene> right, the overhead saving would mostly be for remote clients
364 2021-09-02T19:35:50  <laanwj> compressing JSON already helps a lot btw
365 2021-09-02T19:36:04  <sipa> it appears CBOR actually has native support for 64-bit integers
366 2021-09-02T19:36:25  <laanwj> before you do a lot of work-i fell into that trap once, coming up with some specific binary format for something, compressed JSON actually did slightly better :-)
367 2021-09-02T19:36:26  <sipa> while JSON only has a rather abstractly defined "number" type
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370 2021-09-02T19:37:10  <gene> laanwj: absolutely, that's why I wanted to float the idea before diving in too much deeper
371 2021-09-02T19:37:12  <cfields> sipa: I've been struggling with this lately. Playing around with rewriting UniValue as a std::variant. The JSON number/string constraints are annoyingly vague.
372 2021-09-02T19:38:24  <gene> sipa: CBOR also encodes binary data without the need for Base64 encoding, so passing around public keys and other binary data would be much more compact
373 2021-09-02T19:38:25  <laanwj> sipa: that's a good thing at least, no longer the 'how do we represent monetary amounts' question
374 2021-09-02T19:38:34  <cfields> s/vague/non-existent/, I guess.
375 2021-09-02T19:39:23  <laanwj> that said, everything is adapted to how bitcoin core does things now
376 2021-09-02T19:39:38  <laanwj> it was slightly different in 2012
377 2021-09-02T19:39:52  <sipa> gene: yes, i assumed that'd be the main objective
378 2021-09-02T19:41:27  <laanwj> compressing base64 gets pretty close to the original binary size
379 2021-09-02T19:44:28  <jonatack> laanwj: thanks for adding the node allocator pull to hi-prio. WRT the release notes, the addr rate-limiting and some PRs seem to be missing, will re-check tomorrow morning. In terms of v22.0, there's a (maybe...or maybe not important) edge case I plan to check out tomorrow.
380 2021-09-02T19:45:00  <gene> laanwj: can do a small implementation of a few RPC calls (trying to get a representative sample), and compare sizes between compressed CBOR and JSON encodings
381 2021-09-02T19:51:17  <laanwj> gene: okay!
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385 2021-09-02T20:15:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] martinus closed pull request #22702: Add allocator for node based containers (master...2019-08-bulkpoolallocator) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22702
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388 2021-09-02T20:15:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] martinus reopened pull request #22702: Add allocator for node based containers (master...2019-08-bulkpoolallocator) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22702
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400 2021-09-02T21:56:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mjdietzx opened pull request #22867: Extend test coverage of BIP125 and document confusing/inconsistent behavior (master...test_bip125_edge_cases) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22867
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404 2021-09-02T22:18:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #22868: wallet: Call load handlers without cs_wallet locked (master...2021-09-wallet-load-lock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22868
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408 2021-09-02T22:42:04  <bitcoin-git> [gui] promag opened pull request #417: Ditch wallet model juggling (master...2021-09-eager-wallet-load-1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/417
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413 2021-09-02T23:13:15  <fanquake> laanwj: #22857 - although as I mention in the description, shouldn’t require an rc4
414 2021-09-02T23:13:16  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22857 | [22.x] Backports by fanquake · Pull Request #22857 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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