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108 2021-09-20T03:43:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f58f697 fanquake: doc: remove WSL install instructions and point to upstream
109 2021-09-20T03:43:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2560b68 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23007: doc: remove WSL install instructions and poin...
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112 2021-09-20T03:44:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #23007: doc: remove WSL install instructions and point to upstream (master...remove_verbose_WSL_instructions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23007
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180 2021-09-20T06:01:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ebe49b5 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: fix confusing off-by-one nValue in feature_coinstatsindex.py
181 2021-09-20T06:01:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 226731a merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23037: test: fix confusing off-by-one nValue in feat...
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231 2021-09-20T07:42:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23043: ci: Set --nocleanup for Windows functional tests (master...2109-ciWinCleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23043
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261 2021-09-20T09:00:09  <darosior> achow101: thanks for raising #22949 during the meeting. FWIW another round of review and hacking around with the `tx_pool` fuzzing target gave me more confidence this is not a policy change.
262 2021-09-20T09:00:11  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22949 | fee: Round up fee calculation to avoid a lower than expected feerate by achow101 · Pull Request #22949 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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281 2021-09-20T09:46:47  <laanwj> luke-jr: is this for the distribution binaries or self-built?
282 2021-09-20T09:48:49  <laanwj> will try it out on my armhf hw, but useful to know what the build conditions were ... it's weird, i don't think the 32-bit ARM is supposed to do 64-bit loads for crc, because it doesn't have a 64 bit crc isntruction
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284 2021-09-20T09:55:00  <laanwj> so does HAVE_ARM64_CRC32C get set when building for armhf
285 2021-09-20T09:58:54  <laanwj> These built-in intrinsics for the ARMv8-A CRC32 extension are available when the -march=armv8-a+crc switch is used "uint32_t __crc32d (uint32_t, uint64_t)" Form of expected instruction(s): Two crc32w r0, r0, r0 instructions for AArch32
286 2021-09-20T09:59:19  <laanwj> so: no, unless somehow that flag is passed to the autoconf test, i think the distro binary is fine
287 2021-09-20T10:00:21  <laanwj> but it is sneaky that gcc will 'emulate' the 64-bit intrinsic on ARM32
288 2021-09-20T10:01:29  <laanwj> in any case we need to explicitly check for 64-bit ARM in your build system, the crc32c code is not ARM-specific it is ARM64-specific
289 2021-09-20T10:08:45  <laanwj> oh crap--I think our detection is entirely wrong, we're detecting 32-bit ARM CRC32 instead of 64-bit?
290 2021-09-20T10:10:30  <laanwj> configure:17553: checking for ARM CRC32 intrinsics" fails for me on
291 2021-09-20T10:11:08  <laanwj> arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf-gcc 10.2.0
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294 2021-09-20T10:16:13  <laanwj> PHEW-22.0 armhf distro doesn't contain the instructions: arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf-objdump -d bitcoind|grep crc32
295 2021-09-20T10:16:32  <laanwj> and the aarch64 one does
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297 2021-09-20T10:18:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23044: refactor: Remove unused validation includes (master...2109-valInc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23044
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304 2021-09-20T10:28:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #23045: build: Restrict check for CRC32C intrinsic to aarch64 (master...2021-09-arm64-crc32) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23045
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355 2021-09-20T12:26:18  <sipa> laanwj: ok good
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357 2021-09-20T12:27:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23046: test: Add txindex migration test (master...2109-txindexMigrate) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23046
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368 2021-09-20T12:49:30  <laanwj> the issue must have been there since we first introduced crc32c, afaik its ARM code has always been the same, and so was our build system check, and it's never been reported before (it's a clear immediate crash) so the conditions where it is accidentally enabled on armhf must be rare
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372 2021-09-20T12:58:26  <prayank> laanwj: Waiting for your response about proxies https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22959#issuecomment-921094779
373 2021-09-20T12:58:33  <prayank> My understanding with an example: Consider I am using 127.0.0.1:8080 as proxy, onlynet is not used, proxy remains for all networks but may not work for one or more depending on different things. If onlynet is used, only those networks will be tried to reach via proxy but proxy still remains for all networks. 127.0.0.1:7656 is only used for i2p.
374 2021-09-20T13:02:21  <sipa> prayank: i don't understand the question
375 2021-09-20T13:04:33  <prayank> sipa: if an IP address and PORT is mentioned in proxy by user, does it make sense to classify it as only applicable for some networks? 127.0.0.1:7656 being an exception
376 2021-09-20T13:06:12  <laanwj> prayank: i think that's how it's supposed to be: if you configure a proxy for a certain network and the proxy doesn't work for that network, it will try to use it when connecting out on that, then fail--it definitely shouldn't try connecting outside the proxy, that would be some kind of leak
377 2021-09-20T13:06:53  <laanwj> a 'the proxy doesn't work let's connect directly' fallback would be really bad. but maybe i'm misunderstanding
378 2021-09-20T13:07:01  <sipa> prayank: you can configure which network it is for
379 2021-09-20T13:07:29  <prayank> laanwj: agree
380 2021-09-20T13:08:12  <ryanofsky> Can add #22976 to high prio since I don't have on there right now?
381 2021-09-20T13:08:14  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22976 | scripted-diff: Rename overloaded int GetArg to GetIntArg by ryanofsky · Pull Request #22976 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
382 2021-09-20T13:08:16  <sipa> oh, seems i'm wrong
383 2021-09-20T13:08:19  <prayank> sipa: I guess that would require more things in config
384 2021-09-20T13:08:59  <sipa> there is just -proxy and -onion; i thought i saw something to restrict which networks -proxy is for
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386 2021-09-20T13:14:11  <laanwj> prayank: btw please don't take my IRC posts out of context on github this is very stressful
387 2021-09-20T13:16:42  <prayank> It's not completely out of context. Sorry if it looks wrong but things were related and discussed at several places in which I finally had this conclusion proxies are just proxies and should be used for all networks if possible.
388 2021-09-20T13:18:29  <laanwj> yes, sure, I understand how it can be somewhat confusing: that's true *if* specified with -proxy, then it's intended to be used as cover-all proxy for all networks (including DNS names), however, network-specific proxies are applied to addresses of a specific network
389 2021-09-20T13:18:47  <laanwj> and that's the information you get with getnetworkinfo
390 2021-09-20T13:20:19  <laanwj> name connections (where the network isn't known) are a special case that's outside of the normal per-network proxy handling, names never come from the P2P network but only in special cases (as mentioned in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22959#issuecomment-922915197)
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393 2021-09-20T13:27:23  <prayank> I think I still believe saying proxy 1 is used for ipv4 only can be misleading. Because it's used for only ipv4 either because you restricted outgoing to ipv4 only or used externalip in config. Proxy can still be used for other networks if user changes config. This might give false information that proxy only works for some networks.
394 2021-09-20T13:27:45  <laanwj> sipa: there's not currently a way to only set a proxy for ipv4 and not ipv6 or vice versa, theoretically it'd be easy to implement, but the use case doesn't really come up, what almost everyone wants is to set a proxy for everything
395 2021-09-20T13:28:17  <laanwj> (sometimes including or excluding onion)
396 2021-09-20T13:29:05  <laanwj> prayank: i don't follow you here, the information returned is exactly what the network code uses
397 2021-09-20T13:29:38  <sipa> prayank: externalip is completely unrelated; that's about advertising an address for incoming connections
398 2021-09-20T13:29:51  <sipa> -proxy and -onion are purely about outgoing connections
399 2021-09-20T13:30:04  <laanwj> all that -getinfo does is format it in a nice way, but it's simply the internal proxy information it gets from getnetworkinfo, that is used by the P2P code
400 2021-09-20T13:30:22  <jonatack> prayank:  also, remember that -getinfo is only a wrapper for a batch of RPCs, including getnetworkinfo, so the relevant discussion there is on how to present the data they provide.
401 2021-09-20T13:30:33  <prayank> laanwj: As a user what would you prefer 1. Proxy 127.0.0.1:9150 (ipv4) 2. Proxy 127.0.0.1:9150 (onlynet=ipv4)
402 2021-09-20T13:30:37  <jonatack> laanwj: right
403 2021-09-20T13:31:01  <sipa> prayank: i don't understand what you're trying to convey
404 2021-09-20T13:31:26  <sipa> onlynet is about which automatic connections are made
405 2021-09-20T13:31:48  <sipa> proxy is about how to make connections in general, including non-automatic ones
406 2021-09-20T13:34:53  <prayank> sipa: Networks being associated with a proxy looked incorrect to me but at this point it looks like I am more confused than before so will take some time to try things and comeback in few days with fresh thoughts.
407 2021-09-20T13:35:12  <prayank> Also it was related to this PR as well: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/421
408 2021-09-20T13:37:35  <sipa> prayank: internally, every network can have a proxy associated with (plus a separate one for name-based connections). -proxy sets all of them. -onion sets the one for tor hidden services only.
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412 2021-09-20T13:44:56  <prayank> sipa: externalip assumption was based on the command shared in end of 'manual' section here which says you can use this if proxy should only work for onion and not ipv4
413 2021-09-20T13:45:01  <prayank> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/tor.md#3-manually-create-a-bitcoin-core-onion-service
414 2021-09-20T13:45:03  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3 | Encrypt wallet · Issue #3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
415 2021-09-20T13:46:43  <sipa> prayank: section 1 is about outgoing connections; 2 and 3 are about incoming
416 2021-09-20T13:49:20  <prayank> Okay so this is proxy for incoming
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418 2021-09-20T13:50:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23047: test: Use MiniWallet in mempool_persist (master...2109-testMempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23047
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420 2021-09-20T13:53:04  <sipa> prayank: there is no such thing as a "proxy for incoming"
421 2021-09-20T13:53:34  <sipa> -externalip is just telling bitcoind on which address it can be reached, so it can.rumour that address to other peers
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424 2021-09-20T13:56:03  <sipa> because if you manually configure your tor node to have a hidden service for your bitcoind, bitcoind has no way of figuring out what its hidden service address is
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427 2021-09-20T14:01:27  <laanwj> right, or when your node is behind a NAT, it's not a proxy-specific option
428 2021-09-20T14:01:48  <laanwj> (+and manually port-forwarded)
429 2021-09-20T14:04:09  <sipa> prayank: are you confused about the mention of -proxy in the example in section 3? that's just setting the proxy for outbound connections
430 2021-09-20T14:05:02  <luke-jr> laanwj: is the 2x crc32w worse for performance?
431 2021-09-20T14:05:54  <luke-jr> laanwj: and again, 0.21 built and ran tests fine :/
432 2021-09-20T14:06:43  <laanwj> luke-jr: yes, i think all the instructions execute in the same number of cycles, so doing 64 bits at once is twice as fast
433 2021-09-20T14:07:16  <sipa> (because it's an example of all the tor related settings to use in such an example)
434 2021-09-20T14:07:19  <sipa> i guess.i comfused.you by saying section 3 is purely about inbound... the example  are about the whole thing
435 2021-09-20T14:09:03  <luke-jr> laanwj: but ARM won't be doing 64 bits; if we disable this, it will use plain C?
436 2021-09-20T14:09:25  <laanwj> luke-jr: it has always used plain C on ARM32, your case is really a strnge misdetection
437 2021-09-20T14:09:49  <laanwj> the code in crc32c is for 64 bit ARM, it doesn't work for 32-bit
438 2021-09-20T14:12:26  <laanwj> (it even queries the wrong getauxval bit for the instruction set in src/crc32c/src/crc32c_arm64_check.h if you manage to compile that code for 32-bit, it's all in all, pretty bad)
439 2021-09-20T14:12:43  <luke-jr> laanwj: crc32c itself doesn't check for aarch64
440 2021-09-20T14:13:01  <luke-jr> ah, I wonder if that's why it detected it at runtime
441 2021-09-20T14:13:13  <laanwj> luke-jr: maybe it's an upstream bug then
442 2021-09-20T14:13:23  <laanwj> in any case, we need to fix itin our own build system, as we don't use theirs
443 2021-09-20T14:13:34  <luke-jr> right
444 2021-09-20T14:15:53  <sipa> laanwj: do ARM32 implementations (with necessary extensions) have the same instructions, actually? (perhaps without the 64-bits at once one)?
445 2021-09-20T14:16:16  <sipa> because maybe it's less work to make (upstream) crc32c actually work propertly on arm32 then
446 2021-09-20T14:16:19  <laanwj> sipa: yes, but they are extremely rare in the first place
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448 2021-09-20T14:16:35  <sipa> i guess the relevant question is: does any raspberry pi have them>
449 2021-09-20T14:16:51  <laanwj> crc32c extension was introduced with arm8, which tend to be 64 bit
450 2021-09-20T14:17:16  <laanwj> luke-jr: does your hardware actually list crc32c in /proc/cpuinfo?
451 2021-09-20T14:17:17  <prayank> sipa: yes
452 2021-09-20T14:18:48  <sipa> laanwj: but rpi4 is actually aarch64, but with (iirc) typically a 32-bit OS on it
453 2021-09-20T14:19:03  <laanwj> sipa: ok well for that case it could work
454 2021-09-20T14:19:21  <sipa> but apparently with misaligned input...
455 2021-09-20T14:19:49  <laanwj> if anyone actually has hardware to test i'm happy with making crc32c work on 32-bit ARM instead
456 2021-09-20T14:20:48  <sipa> i have access to an aarch64 machine (developerbox); i can easily compile in 32-bit mode and test on that
457 2021-09-20T14:20:52  <laanwj> you'd need to specialize for __arm__: a) getauxval linux bit b) make sure the 64 bit path is ifdef'ed out
458 2021-09-20T14:22:19  <laanwj> (pretty much exactly like the x86/x86_64 distinction)
459 2021-09-20T14:23:15  <sipa> yeah
460 2021-09-20T14:23:46  <sipa> it seems there are a lot of analogies between arm32/aarch64 on the one hand and x86/x86_64 on the other hand
461 2021-09-20T14:23:48  <luke-jr> laanwj: it will take me hours to find out, but I will check
462 2021-09-20T14:24:58  <luke-jr> I would expect to find it's aarch64-capable running a 32-bit VM or container
463 2021-09-20T14:24:59  <laanwj> luke-jr: ok no hurry
464 2021-09-20T14:25:48  <luke-jr> in any case, separating the bugfix from the feature of adding 32-bit support to it, seem like two different tasks/PRs
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466 2021-09-20T14:27:11  <sipa> luke-jr: agree
467 2021-09-20T14:27:12  <laanwj> luke-jr: in any case the /proc/cpuinfo 'features' will be what getauxval(AT_HWCAP*) returns, if there is no crc32c in there then it shouldn't even have tried to go into the hw-accelerated code path
468 2021-09-20T14:27:50  <laanwj> it's probing the wrong bit which means something completely different on a different architecture
469 2021-09-20T14:28:09  <laanwj> luke-jr: yes
470 2021-09-20T14:30:00  <laanwj> my PR (disabling it where we know it's not going to work) is the safe baseline
471 2021-09-20T14:30:24  <luke-jr> oh, got it faster than expected! http://dpaste.com/5CR5SYJPZ
472 2021-09-20T14:31:39  <laanwj> Features : half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt lpae evtstrm -- no crc32 :/
473 2021-09-20T14:32:17  * luke-jr wonders how crc32w is normally detected
474 2021-09-20T14:32:56  <sipa> getauxval is the correct approach, i think
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476 2021-09-20T14:33:29  <laanwj> it's a bit in HWCAP2
477 2021-09-20T14:33:40  <laanwj> looking it up now
478 2021-09-20T14:34:08  <sipa> Note ID_ISAR5.CRC32 indicates whether this instruction is supported in the T32 and A32 instruction sets.
479 2021-09-20T14:34:26  <laanwj> HWCAP2_CRC32
480 2021-09-20T14:34:47  <laanwj> in getauxval(AT_HWCAP2)
481 2021-09-20T14:35:19  <luke-jr> strange that /proc/cpuinfo lacks it
482 2021-09-20T14:35:40  <Guest3749> Hello, I was wondering if the BTCC is on sale and if so where can I buy some? thank you
483 2021-09-20T14:36:28  <luke-jr> Guest3749: wrong channel. (and note that "BTCC" may be a scam, not related to Bitcoin) further discussion somewhere else please
484 2021-09-20T14:37:04  <laanwj> in aarch64 it's in AT_HWCAP instead and a different bit (HWCAP_CRC32 = 1<<7) .. that same bit would on ARM32 be HWCAP_EDSP      (1 << 7)
485 2021-09-20T14:37:17  <laanwj> as you have edsp, that checks out... :)
486 2021-09-20T14:37:53  <sipa> laanwj: but that doesn't mean the same machine binary opcode is used for edsp and crc32?
487 2021-09-20T14:38:12  <laanwj> sipa: oh definitely not
488 2021-09-20T14:38:32  <sipa> right, so it's strange luke is getting a misaligned error
489 2021-09-20T14:38:49  <sipa> i'd expect an "unknown instruction" or so instead
490 2021-09-20T14:38:56  <laanwj> wait, the crc* instructions don't access memory at all
491 2021-09-20T14:39:02  <laanwj> it's the memory fetch before it that gets a SIGBUS
492 2021-09-20T14:39:05  <sipa> ah
493 2021-09-20T14:39:07  <laanwj> it doesn't even get to the instruction
494 2021-09-20T14:39:18  <sipa> right, it's 3 registry operands
495 2021-09-20T14:40:00  <laanwj> right, i think the code, right now, makes the assumption pointers are 64-bit aligned, which isn't true on 32-bit ARM, so it bolts out even before getting to the instruction itself
496 2021-09-20T14:40:28  <sipa> 17:07:22 < luke-jr> crc32c/src/crc32c_arm64.cc:101:20: runtime error: load of misaligned address 0x06d96d36 for type 'uint64_t', which requires 8 byte
497 2021-09-20T14:40:37  <sipa> that's not even 4-byte aligned!
498 2021-09-20T14:40:43  <laanwj> heeh
499 2021-09-20T14:40:49  <luke-jr> XD
500 2021-09-20T14:40:54  <Guest3749> no answer to my question? must we mine BTCC OR can we buy it somewhere? Thank you for answering me.
501 2021-09-20T14:41:02  <sipa> Guest3749: off topic, sorry
502 2021-09-20T14:45:02  <prayank> Guest3749: Where did you get the link for this IRC channel?
503 2021-09-20T14:48:47  <Guest3749> I am also a developer. there is the irc on the website, then i dont know why even if it is not the right place why no one just answers my question. or buy BTCC, simple question.
504 2021-09-20T14:50:13  <sipa> Guest3749: this channel is about the development of the bitcoin core software; anything else is off-topic; last warning
505 2021-09-20T14:50:30  <luke-jr> Guest3749: even if someone knows, they respect the topic of the channel and won't answer here.
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507 2021-09-20T14:53:33  <Guest3749> so you are idiots ... in the street if someone asks you the time when you are going to buy bread i hope you will answer him anyway .. not like saying no i am going to get my bread there is none report. answer a simple question and move on. anyway, the mentality is pretty low for dev.
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513 2021-09-20T15:13:06  <laanwj> that escalated quickly
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527 2021-09-20T15:49:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/226731ac1144...d809d8bf1264
528 2021-09-20T15:49:09  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7c3712f klementtan: cli: Display all proxies in -getinfo
529 2021-09-20T15:49:09  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d809d8b W. J. van der Laan: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22959: cli: Display all proxies in -getinfo
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532 2021-09-20T15:49:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #22959: cli: Display all proxies in -getinfo (master...getinfo-multiple-proxies) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22959
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534 2021-09-20T15:49:48  <luke-jr> laanwj: why couldn't it have worked previously? O.o
535 2021-09-20T15:50:06  <luke-jr> if you had edsp and crc32 stuff?
536 2021-09-20T15:51:50  <laanwj> because the code is broken for ARM64
537 2021-09-20T15:51:59  <laanwj> eh, for ARM32, it works only for ARM64
538 2021-09-20T15:53:12  <luke-jr> depends on the source of the unalignment? :P
539 2021-09-20T15:53:53  <laanwj> come on... it's clear from various things that that code was never qualified for ARM32 in any way
540 2021-09-20T15:54:21  <luke-jr> sure, but it did apparently work in 0.21
541 2021-09-20T15:54:32  <laanwj> why do you think that?
542 2021-09-20T15:54:48  <luke-jr> I didn't encounter this failure until 22.0
543 2021-09-20T15:55:00  <luke-jr> noteworthy, only on Ubuntu impish
544 2021-09-20T15:55:02  <laanwj> because the check worked before, something changed in your build environment
545 2021-09-20T15:55:31  <luke-jr> I suppose it's possible
546 2021-09-20T15:55:36  <laanwj> for the release binaries and everyone else's build env, it failed that build system check on armhf so the issue never comes up
547 2021-09-20T15:55:59  <laanwj> crc32 doesn't even *work* on your CPU, it's not in /proc/cpusinfo
548 2021-09-20T15:56:18  <laanwj> even separately from the architecture misdetection
549 2021-09-20T15:57:16  <laanwj> if it'd actually execute one of the crc32c* instructions it'd give SIGILL, if it wouldn't have failed on the alignment issue before
550 2021-09-20T15:58:18  <luke-jr> you're right
551 2021-09-20T15:58:28  <luke-jr> grepped the 0.21 binaries for crc32 yielded nothing
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553 2021-09-20T15:59:31  <luke-jr> eh, but neither do the arm64 bins
554 2021-09-20T16:00:29  <laanwj> interesting
555 2021-09-20T16:01:37  <sipa> did we recently update libcrc32c?
556 2021-09-20T16:01:45  <laanwj> or maybe the compiler used previously didn't know the intrinsics
557 2021-09-20T16:02:35  <luke-jr> found _ZN6crc32c11ExtendArm64EjPKhm in arm64 debug symbol file, but absent in armhf
558 2021-09-20T16:02:46  <luke-jr> laanwj: hard to be sure, since impish is still evolving
559 2021-09-20T16:02:57  <luke-jr> sipa: yes, but nothing significant in there from what I saw
560 2021-09-20T16:04:03  <luke-jr> laanwj: anyway, my ACK is simply waiting on the build to finish ;)
561 2021-09-20T16:04:59  <luke-jr> might be nice to get ARM32 supported since it seems reasonably common, but I don't have a Pi4 to try with at the moment
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573 2021-09-20T16:36:50  <luke-jr> fanquake: found a bug in your merged PR https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22859#discussion_r712334971 maybe fix?
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575 2021-09-20T16:39:56  <laanwj> does Rpi4 have CRC32 instructions? i don't have one
576 2021-09-20T16:41:56  <sipa> it does: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=243882
577 2021-09-20T16:42:34  <laanwj> wait i do have a Odroid-C2 which has them, but it's used for something important i can't just install another OS on it, does 32-bit software run on 64-bit ARM? i don't remember
578 2021-09-20T16:42:58  <sipa> it does
579 2021-09-20T16:43:51  <sipa> either by having a full 32-bit OS only, or if you have 32-bit userspace libraries installed
580 2021-09-20T16:43:59  <sipa> same as with x86_64/x86
581 2021-09-20T16:44:31  <laanwj> right, i didn't know for sure because it's not like that for riscv32/64
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583 2021-09-20T16:46:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Fi3 opened pull request #23049: net: implement a StratumV2 Template Provider in core (master...add_sv2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23049
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590 2021-09-20T16:59:58  <laanwj> it indeed looks like "dpkg --add-architecture armhf && apt update && apt install libc6:armhf" is enough to run armhf release bitcoin-cli on aarch64 host
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592 2021-09-20T17:02:26  <laanwj> no need to install a 32-bit OS
593 2021-09-20T17:03:29  <laanwj> although i haven't checked yet what the AT_HWCAP flags look like, i'd guess they'd be passed correctly to 32-bit userspace though, and that the same extension instruction sets are available
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596 2021-09-20T17:10:04  <luke-jr> #12677 & #22974 look rtm
597 2021-09-20T17:10:07  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12677 | RPC: Add ancestor{count,size,fees} to listunspent output by luke-jr · Pull Request #12677 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
598 2021-09-20T17:10:09  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22974 | addrman: Improve performance of Good by mzumsande · Pull Request #22974 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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600 2021-09-20T17:16:08  <laanwj> ... getauxval(AT_HWCAP2)=0x00000010 looks like it, as expected, getauxval in a 32-bit binary on 64-bit ARM returns the correct value for 32-bit ARM, and also, 1<<4 (HWCAP2_CRC32) is available in 32-bit mode
601 2021-09-20T17:18:05  <laanwj> luke-jr: will take a look
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606 2021-09-20T17:26:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d809d8bf1264...488e7455608d
607 2021-09-20T17:26:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3f77dfd Luke Dashjr: Expose ancestorsize and ancestorfees via getTransactionAncestry
608 2021-09-20T17:26:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6966e80 Luke Dashjr: RPC: Add ancestor{count,size,fees} to listunspent output
609 2021-09-20T17:26:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0be2f17 Luke Dashjr: QA: Add tests for listunspent ancestor{count,size,fees} to mempool_packages
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613 2021-09-20T17:26:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #12677: RPC: Add ancestor{count,size,fees} to listunspent output (master...listunspent_ancestorinfo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12677
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628 2021-09-20T17:48:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/488e7455608d...7f7bd3111cdc
629 2021-09-20T17:48:20  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eb2e113 Martin Zumsande: addrman: Improve performance of Good
630 2021-09-20T17:48:20  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master acf656d Martin Zumsande: fuzz: Use public interface to fill addrman tried tables
631 2021-09-20T17:48:20  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 57ce203 Martin Zumsande: fuzz: allow lower number of sources
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634 2021-09-20T17:48:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #22974: addrman: Improve performance of Good (master...202109_goodspeed) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22974
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637 2021-09-20T17:51:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jb55 closed pull request #18985: bloom: use Span instead of std::vector for `insert` and `contains` [ZAP3] (master...2020-05-bloom-span) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18985
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701 2021-09-20T19:50:30  <Kiminuo> Hi, would anyone know an answer for this https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12677#discussion_r711712521?
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704 2021-09-20T19:57:04  <laanwj> Kiminuo: I think you're right
705 2021-09-20T19:57:30  <sipa> just commented; i think ancestorfees should just use ValueFromAmount()?
706 2021-09-20T19:57:45  <sipa> (i haven't followed the PR, perhaps there are reasons to deviate?)
707 2021-09-20T19:58:07  <laanwj> i don't really understand it either
708 2021-09-20T19:58:50  <laanwj> i think it's good practice to use ValueFromAmount unless there's good reason to deviate, like consistency within a RPC call
709 2021-09-20T19:58:59  <sipa> right
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711 2021-09-20T19:59:52  <laanwj> as listunspent uses btc-denominated amounts everywhere else it should there too
712 2021-09-20T20:00:36  <laanwj> sorry for missing that before merge
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722 2021-09-20T20:17:49  <laanwj> (otoh this PR has been open since 2018, i'm sure it was good to move forward with it and fix some things in a follow-up)
723 2021-09-20T20:17:59  <Kiminuo> laanwj: Finally, I found it https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20484#issuecomment-734786305
724 2021-09-20T20:18:57  <sipa> Kiminuo: but that's about feerate; this is a fee, not a feerate
725 2021-09-20T20:18:57  <Kiminuo> This is a PR where I got the impression that "fee (rate)" is fine in sat/vB
726 2021-09-20T20:19:24  <Kiminuo> sipa: ok, then
727 2021-09-20T20:23:17  <Kiminuo> So just to have some conclusion here: Should I try to create a follow-up PR for the Luke's one to change `ancestorfees` to BTC denomination? Or is anyone calling dibs? :)
728 2021-09-20T20:23:39  <laanwj> right, this is not per vB
729 2021-09-20T20:24:12  <laanwj> well if you're going to change it, it needs to be changed before the release, once it's in a release for better or worse we're stuck with this inconsistency
730 2021-09-20T20:24:39  <Kiminuo> how long till the next release?
731 2021-09-20T20:24:57  <laanwj> #22969
732 2021-09-20T20:24:58  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22969 | Release schedule for 23.0 · Issue #22969 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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734 2021-09-20T20:26:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #23050: log: change an incorrect fee to fee rate, and vice-versa (master...fee-vs-feerate) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23050
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736 2021-09-20T20:26:58  <Kiminuo> haha
737 2021-09-20T20:27:26  <Kiminuo> I thought that Jon has just created the PR :)
738 2021-09-20T20:27:29  <jonatack> hehe, thought this would be a good time to open this silly patch I've had on the side for a while
739 2021-09-20T20:29:11  <jonatack> Kiminuo: confusion is normal....until Murch[m] opened my eyes to it a year ago, I didn't realize how often fees are mixed with fee rates/feerates
740 2021-09-20T20:30:34  <Kiminuo> I should really check it here https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21422 then :)
741 2021-09-20T20:31:07  <Kiminuo> but you probably have discovered all invalid cases already
742 2021-09-20T20:32:32  <jonatack> it was just something I wondered about during review of another pull, didn't look anywhere else
743 2021-09-20T20:32:52  <Kiminuo> jonatack: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12677#pullrequestreview-759043318 - I don't really want to try to beat somebody in addressing these but I should have some time over the coming days to address that so I'll do it, ok? Saying that just because I don't want to compete with somebody
744 2021-09-20T20:34:53  <jonatack> Kiminuo: sure. I don't plan to
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748 2021-09-20T20:43:24  <luke-jr> Kiminuo: laanwj: all other ancestorfees use satoshis
749 2021-09-20T20:44:45  <sipa> oh, that's a good reason
750 2021-09-20T20:45:00  <luke-jr> I'm not sure about the doc type tho. Maybe it should be NUM or such
751 2021-09-20T20:46:21  <sipa> right
752 2021-09-20T20:50:18  <jonatack> luke-jr: not sure it's related, but in #22689 (open) the four mempool rpcs are returning the ancestor fee fields and others in BTC, maybe have a look
753 2021-09-20T20:50:21  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22689 | rpc: deprecate top-level fee fields in getmempool RPCs by josibake · Pull Request #22689 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
754 2021-09-20T20:51:04  <jonatack> where some were previously in satoshis
755 2021-09-20T20:53:11  <laanwj> listunspent is a wallet RPC call, i think it's strange to have the amount in BTC and then the fees in satoshis
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758 2021-09-20T20:54:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] gruve-p closed pull request #22961: Update zmq to 4.3.4 (master...zmq-update) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22961
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760 2021-09-20T20:54:47  <laanwj> if you have quantities that you could plausibly compare it makes sense to use the same unit
761 2021-09-20T20:55:26  <laanwj> fee*rate* and amount are clearly different units of course
762 2021-09-20T20:55:40  <laanwj> i don't think you can say the same for fee and amount
763 2021-09-20T20:57:30  <laanwj> but i'm sure this is very controversial for some reason, sorry for merging something that makes things even more of a mess
764 2021-09-20T20:59:37  <jonatack> "this PR has been open since 2018, i'm sure it was good to move forward with it and fix some things in a follow-up" ... agree :)  admirable patience by luke, too
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767 2021-09-20T21:02:34  <laanwj> yes exactly
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772 2021-09-20T21:07:56  <jeremy> Can folks see this?
773 2021-09-20T21:08:00  <laanwj> jeremy: welcome!
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776 2021-09-20T21:16:46  <luke-jr> Libera working is easy. Try getting on freenode these days otoh… >_<
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783 2021-09-20T21:30:42  <achow101> sipa: I had left the same comment during review: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12677#discussion_r707609663
784 2021-09-20T21:32:25  <achow101> ancestorfees in satoshis is used everywhere we have mempool entries in the RPC. except that that format is deprecated and has been replaced with one that has the fees in BTC
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794 2021-09-20T22:00:40  <luke-jr> should we just drop ancestorfees and replace it with ⁇? then?
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