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 17 2021-10-12T00:33:33  <BlueMatt> any update on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17631 ? Would be nice.
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 24 2021-10-12T00:47:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1790a8ddacae...e418a8e675e4
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 96 2021-10-12T02:32:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e418a8e675e4...fbbbc594ad2f
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102 2021-10-12T02:32:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #23227: bitcoin-tx: Avoid treating integer overflow as OP_0 (master...2110-ToIntegral) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23227
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228 2021-10-12T06:52:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fbbbc594ad2f...8df7eee5e1c8
229 2021-10-12T06:52:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa4d0aa MarcoFalke: test: * -> &
230 2021-10-12T06:52:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8df7eee MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23132: test: Change background_cs from pointer to re...
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233 2021-10-12T06:52:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23132: test: Change background_cs from pointer to reference in validation_chainstate_tests (master...2109-testStarToAmpersand) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23132
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300 2021-10-12T09:28:52  <Guest99100> Hi, I'm looking for someone to help me dig up old bitcoin-dev archives. I'm analyzing consensus change events in Bitcoin for a research project, and have realized that there is an important gap in the IRC logs that I'm looking at. The missing samples are mainly 2015-07-03, 2015-07-04 and 2015-07-05. I've gathered chat-logs in this period from
301 2021-10-12T09:28:53  <Guest99100> http://azure.erisian.com.au/~aj/tmp/irc/, but I've also looked for archives in bitcoinstats by using web archives such as https://web.archive.org/web/20170415065445/http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/07/04 and https://archive.vn. Could anyone help me with this?
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329 2021-10-12T10:46:29  <michaelfolkson> Guest99100: I can't help with your missing logs but I'd recommend looking at the #bitcoin-core-dev log archives too if you haven't already. I suspect a lot of consensus discussions were on that channel as the separation between Core as an implementation and the protocol was potentially less understood/less recognized 5-6 years ago
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343 2021-10-12T11:15:14  <Guest99100> michaelfolkson Thanks for the reply. I have noticed the Bitcoin-core-dev channel as well, though I have worked my way from old to new chats (Currently in 2015). Do you have any idea when the core team 'officially' switched from bitcoin-dev ti butcoin-core-dev?
344 2021-10-12T11:17:26  <michaelfolkson> Guest99100: No, sorry. Not without looking at the logs like you are doing. And obviously nothing is "official", it is just where people ended up having discussions on IRC
345 2021-10-12T11:17:54  <michaelfolkson> Someone else may be able to help, I wasn't around :)
346 2021-10-12T11:19:56  <Guest99100> Alright, thanks anyway :)
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349 2021-10-12T11:24:48  <meshcollider> Well, this would indicate ~Feb/Mar 2016: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/commit/16ece3641f40add8bddd356493b6e42b7ec86e2f#diff-8337c7bfbf82b1170969d744b6db0f59d99a8c9b66bcc1477c86eaf90abdc8fe
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352 2021-10-12T11:32:09  <Guest99100> meshcollider indeed, thanks!
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381 2021-10-12T12:40:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8df7eee5e1c8...810ce36d54e4
382 2021-10-12T12:40:52  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa8d492 MarcoFalke: rest: Return error when header count is not integral
383 2021-10-12T12:40:52  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 810ce36 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23213: rest: Return error when header count is not i...
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386 2021-10-12T12:41:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23213: rest: Return error when header count is not integral (master...2110-restInt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23213
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497 2021-10-12T17:05:14  <achow101> is anyone else unable to reach github right now?
498 2021-10-12T17:06:19  <cfields> wfm. web and git fetch.
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523 2021-10-12T18:06:12  <TallTim> I can resolve it, if it helps.
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528 2021-10-12T18:15:25  <cfields> sipa: what do you think about a c++ shim-wrapper (like aes.cpp for ctaes) around secp for Core, so we could build it as c++? With tighter integration, that'd save us from having to add all of the c buildsystem machinery for the single secp object.
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636 2021-10-12T22:49:24  <davidbak> I'm a little confused about GPG signing commits - is this for everyone who contributes (e.g., commits in a PR need to be signed) or just for the maintainers who do the merge to master/
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639 2021-10-12T22:56:58  <gene> davidbak: pretty sure all commits should be GPG signed
640 2021-10-12T22:58:42  <gene> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#rebasing-changes
641 2021-10-12T22:59:02  <gene> contributors are encouraged to sign, merge commits must be signed
642 2021-10-12T22:59:45  <gene> hrm, looks like merge commits have the "should be signed"
643 2021-10-12T23:00:11  <davidbak> ok, that's what I saw, just wanted to make sure it was definitive, thanks (because, maybe practice had changed without the doc getting update)
644 2021-10-12T23:00:44  <gene> that's just my reading of the section. maintainers will have a more definitive answer
645 2021-10-12T23:01:00  <davidbak> ah, ok i'll wait
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651 2021-10-12T23:10:06  <sipa> davidbak: i think most contributors do not sign their commits
652 2021-10-12T23:10:12  <sipa> i generally don't
653 2021-10-12T23:10:37  <sipa> when a maintainer merges a PR, that _must_ be signed (CI will set off alarms when it isn't)
654 2021-10-12T23:11:49  <davidbak> ok! that's the validation I wanted (because setting up GPG on my system might lead to running down a rathole I'd rather not do at the moment when I'm keen on getting the bitcoin core build running)
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657 2021-10-12T23:14:18  <davidbak> speaking of which - is there a container already set up for building bitcoin core? I didn't spot anything like that at github.com/bitcoin or github.com/bitcoin-core
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660 2021-10-12T23:20:36  <gene> found an unofficial docker repo: https://github.com/amacneil/docker-bitcoin (old and archived)
661 2021-10-12T23:22:11  <gene> looks like fanquake also has a docker image used in the guix build
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663 2021-10-12T23:23:32  <gene> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/ci
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667 2021-10-12T23:30:17  <sipa> there are a few more unofficial ones
668 2021-10-12T23:31:09  <sipa> https://github.com/jamesob/docker-bitcoind
669 2021-10-12T23:33:48  <sipa> also some discussion on an project-maintained one here: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/packaging/issues/55
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671 2021-10-12T23:37:23  <gene> sipa: do you think it would be worthwhile to investigate LXC container builds?
672 2021-10-12T23:39:18  <sipa> gene: who would use it?
673 2021-10-12T23:39:36  <gene> me :)
674 2021-10-12T23:39:58  <gene> seriously though, anyone who wanted a container setup without installing docker
675 2021-10-12T23:40:58  <sipa> ok, i'm not really familiar with either of them
676 2021-10-12T23:42:31  <gene> LXC is linux specific, built by Canonical
677 2021-10-12T23:43:18  <gene> you can also setup LXC to be rootless, where I think dockerd always needs root
678 2021-10-12T23:44:08  <gene> pretty sure LXC is also more lightweight than docker
679 2021-10-12T23:46:03  <gene> LXC doesn't have the community/proprietary split that docker uses
680 2021-10-12T23:46:25  <davidbak> i'm not a docker fanboy, and have no stake in this, but you know, consider the use case - docker is ubiquitous, and sufficiently free for individual developers, and lightweight isn't really an issue for development/build machines (unlike deployment targets), etc. etc.  but that's just what occurs to me.
681 2021-10-12T23:46:55  <sipa> my understanding is that LXC is a much more low-level isolation mechanism, and that docker actually used LXC under the hood on certain systems
682 2021-10-12T23:47:00  <davidbak> and I wasn't looking for anything _supported_ by the project (though that would have been nice) just something to get me rolling, i'll look at those repos you found for me, gene
683 2021-10-12T23:47:02  <sipa> that said, i haven't directly used either
684 2021-10-12T23:47:22  <gene> davidbak: right, for CI it's less important. more thinking for poeople that wanted a container on a constrained device
685 2021-10-12T23:47:29  <davidbak> i think that's true too: I just saw a page that said something like that
686 2021-10-12T23:48:00  <sipa> davidbak: i think it'd be cool to have a project-maintained docker image; the question is really just who would build/maintain it, as it seems so far nobody has stepped up
687 2021-10-12T23:48:01  <davidbak> ah! my use case wasn't _running_ bitcoin core (i've got _that_ set up) but building - a container that had all tools + dependencies would be sweet ...
688 2021-10-12T23:48:13  <gene> davidbak: don't skip the packaging issue sipa linked, it has more community repos
689 2021-10-12T23:48:28  <sipa> oh, for building, i recommend guix actually
690 2021-10-12T23:48:41  <davidbak> i know, well, if I get there ... i'll speak up and volunteer ...
691 2021-10-12T23:48:47  <sipa> that's what is used for release builds since 22.0
692 2021-10-12T23:48:52  <davidbak> ok
693 2021-10-12T23:49:07  * gene still needs to try guix builds
694 2021-10-12T23:49:10  <sipa> and apart from guix itself (which can be a pain...), it needs no basically nothing
695 2021-10-12T23:49:35  <sipa> or, slightly more lowlevel/lightweight, the depends build system
696 2021-10-12T23:50:01  <sipa> this requires C++ compilers etc from the host system, but not much else, as the dependencies are fetch/built automatically
697 2021-10-12T23:50:26  <davidbak> huh, i'll look at that - guix labels itself as a 'package manager' that can 'instantiate and manage unix-like oses' - didn't occur to me that it was a build mechanism for an individual project
698 2021-10-12T23:50:52  <davidbak> (or could be used as such)
699 2021-10-12T23:51:06  <sipa> davidbak: it's not a very obvious choice no, but i think it's amazing
700 2021-10-12T23:51:10  <gene> guix useful for reproducible builds since you can statically define deps
701 2021-10-12T23:51:21  <sipa> because it's designed to be deterministic and reproducable from the bottom up
702 2021-10-12T23:51:43  <gene> jinx
703 2021-10-12T23:51:58  <davidbak> well i see now at wikipedia that it is built on top of Nix and I know what _that_ is, so yes, I'll consider it thank you!
704 2021-10-12T23:52:12  <sipa> so it lets bitcoin core's build script (the contrib/guix/guix-build) instantiate an exactly specified build environment, with exact versions of compilers, dependencies, everything
705 2021-10-12T23:52:33  <sipa> it's inspired by nix, not built on top of
706 2021-10-12T23:55:33  <davidbak> ok, well, the wikipedia article says "based on" several times, I misinterpreted that
707 2021-10-12T23:56:46  <davidbak> but interesting: Guix itself can run in a Docker container! so ... that might be the way to go ... i'll report back next week ...
708 2021-10-12T23:56:54  <sipa> sure, or in any VM
709 2021-10-12T23:57:07  <sipa> in recent debian/ubuntu it's just apt install guix, and you're good
710 2021-10-12T23:57:37  <fanquake> both approaches of that are exampled here: https://github.com/fanquake/core-review/tree/master/guix
711 2021-10-12T23:57:39  <sipa> also, this discussion is perhaps more appropriate for #bitcoin-core-builds
712 2021-10-12T23:57:53  <fanquake> install guix binary on alpine, or apt install guix on debian
713 2021-10-12T23:58:29  <davidbak> this is great! thanks both of you for your help!  seriously, I wouldnt have looked at the guix stuff in the tree for awhile becuase I assumed (<=mistake!) it was for packaging up your artifacts _after_ building!
714 2021-10-12T23:59:17  <sipa> so the outermost layer for release builds is guix, which creates the deterministic env to build in
715 2021-10-12T23:59:28  <davidbak> i'll check out that channel too, yep
716 2021-10-12T23:59:56  <sipa> then inside that, the depends system is invoked (which you can also invoke yourself directly, if you like release-like builds apart from the determinism), which builds dependencies