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 49 2021-10-14T01:54:06  <meshcollider> Anyone have time to review #23093 ? It already has 2 ACKs
 50 2021-10-14T01:54:08  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23093 | Add ability to flush keypool and always flush when upgrading non-HD to HD by meshcollider · Pull Request #23093 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 73 2021-10-14T02:38:22  <cfields> theStack: IIRC I had plans to turn that into a zero-copy api for sending a message to multiple peers, but it didn't work out. It's probably worth re-evaluating. Is it preventing you from doing something?
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 80 2021-10-14T02:51:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #23275: [22.x] Add historical & clean out 22.0 rel notess (22.x...clean_out_rel_notess) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23275
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132 2021-10-14T04:39:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] rooprob opened pull request #23277: Add size check on meta.key_origin.path (master...bugfix/21605-segfault-in-legacyscriptpubkeyman) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23277
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162 2021-10-14T05:41:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/71a85fbd09b5...ec4e43c21c78
163 2021-10-14T05:41:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1d7d835 Anthony Towns: validation: include block hash when reporting prev block not found errors
164 2021-10-14T05:41:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master da94ebc Anthony Towns: validation: move header validation error logging to VALIDATION debug categ...
165 2021-10-14T05:41:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 31b2b80 Anthony Towns: blockstorage: use debug log category
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168 2021-10-14T05:42:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #23235: Reduce unnecessary default logging (master...202110-acceptblockheader-silence) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23235
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280 2021-10-14T10:54:00  <theStack> cfields: no it's not preventing me from doing something, i just stumbled upon it in the course of investigating the TODO in PeerManagerImpl::NewPoWValidBlock() (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/ec4e43c21c78b267915732e917268e81ba94e686/src/net_processing.cpp#L1542)
281 2021-10-14T10:55:38  <theStack> so right now if you sent a fixed message to n peers, serialization takes O(n) instead of O(1), because you have to do it for every peer again and again
282 2021-10-14T10:58:22  <theStack> i hardly think this is a huge performance bottleneck or anything right now though; so not sure if it is worth to change anything
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314 2021-10-14T12:17:01  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] prayank23 closed pull request #23268: p2p: Use absolute FQDN for DNS seed domains (master...dns-seed-fqdn) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23268
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317 2021-10-14T12:21:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] prayank23 reopened pull request #23268: p2p: Use absolute FQDN for DNS seed domains (master...dns-seed-fqdn) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23268
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329 2021-10-14T12:51:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ec4e43c21c78...5a044daea423
330 2021-10-14T12:51:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eb04bad João Barbosa: scripted-diff: Prefix makefile variables with QT_
331 2021-10-14T12:51:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5a044da MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23242: qt: Prefix makefile variables with QT_
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334 2021-10-14T12:51:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23242: qt: Prefix makefile variables with QT_ (master...2021-10-qt-makefile) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23242
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348 2021-10-14T13:18:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact closed pull request #23270: Bump minimum python version to 3.7 (master...2021-10-python-3.7) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23270
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356 2021-10-14T13:38:50  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 6 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5a044daea423...a845f1ccc66c
357 2021-10-14T13:38:50  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 12712fa fanquake: build: remove -Wsign-compare
358 2021-10-14T13:38:50  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0375906 fanquake: build: use loop-analysis over range-loop-analysis
359 2021-10-14T13:38:50  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5239af0 fanquake: build: remove -Wswitch
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362 2021-10-14T13:39:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #23269: build: remove redundant warning flags (master...further_flag_cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23269
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369 2021-10-14T13:48:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to 22.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a0988140b714...12b315484d1a
370 2021-10-14T13:48:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/22.x 405f581 W. J. van der Laan: doc: Add historical release notes for 22.0
371 2021-10-14T13:48:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/22.x dff2261 fanquake: doc: clean out release-notes.md
372 2021-10-14T13:48:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/22.x 12b3154 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23275: [22.x] Add historical & clean out 22.0 rel no...
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375 2021-10-14T13:48:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23275: [22.x] Add historical & clean out 22.0 rel notess (22.x...clean_out_rel_notess) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23275
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423 2021-10-14T16:06:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a845f1ccc66c...6419bdfeb130
424 2021-10-14T16:06:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 22cc797 Samuel Dobson: Add newkeypool RPC to flush the keypool
425 2021-10-14T16:06:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2434b10 Samuel Dobson: Fix outdated keypool size default
426 2021-10-14T16:06:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6f6f7bb Samuel Dobson: Make legacy wallet upgrades from non-HD to HD always flush the keypool
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429 2021-10-14T16:06:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #23093: Add ability to flush keypool and always flush when upgrading non-HD to HD (master...202109_keypoolrefill) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23093
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464 2021-10-14T16:18:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #23280: init: Coalesce Chainstate loading sequence between {,non-}unittest codepaths (master...2021-09-kernel-lib-v3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23280
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484 2021-10-14T17:30:29  <Talkless> bitcoind fails to start with undefined symbol: _ZTIN7leveldb6LoggerE in Debian Sid after leveldb upgraded from 1.22 to 1.23: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=996486
485 2021-10-14T17:34:07  <Talkless> not sure how debian packages are managed, probably just binary compatibility break happend and bitcoind was not rebuilt?
486 2021-10-14T17:34:42  <sipa> Talkless: sounds like libleveldb had an ABI breaking change in a minor version... yuck
487 2021-10-14T17:35:11  <sipa> (and the debian bitcoind package was configured to use system leveldb, rather than the subtreed one)
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489 2021-10-14T17:35:28  <Talkless> sipa: welp, it's google. They don't care about these things, at least that vibe radiates in CppCon talks...
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491 2021-10-14T17:36:10  <sipa> it'd be much easier if we just dropped support for using system leveldb
492 2021-10-14T17:36:44  <sipa> ABI compatibility in C++ libraries is inherently hard
493 2021-10-14T17:38:22  <Talkless> sipa: true, but some projects tries at best to deal with this stuff cleanly, like Qt. Meanwhile as you said, leveldb broke just in minor release :/
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495 2021-10-14T17:39:22  <sipa> if it was clear that such compatibility wasn't something promised by upstream, this probably means debian just shouldn't package it this way
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499 2021-10-14T17:46:19  <Talkless> sipa: IIRC Debian policy does not really like using "subdree" libraries. For example, libgd in PHP source is (was at least) better, allows antialiasing, while upstream libgd lacked behind, and of course, Debian used that original upstream source, resulting in horrible php-painted graphs, for example. Meanwhile it was fine on Ubuntu.
500 2021-10-14T17:50:39  <sipa> Talkless: i mean, they should just package it as separate packages libleveldb122 and libleveldb123, rather than just libleveldb, if compatibility isn't guaranteed
501 2021-10-14T17:51:28  <jeremyrubin> we landed on no meeting today right?
502 2021-10-14T17:51:38  <Talkless> sipa: Oh I see, right, they do use different package versions time to time. I guess this (patch-version-abi-brreak) might be one of these occasions.
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508 2021-10-14T18:08:07  <dongcarl> jeremyrubin: I think so
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530 2021-10-14T19:04:28  <luke-jr> meeting?
531 2021-10-14T19:05:33  <luke-jr> Talkless: we've told distros time and time again, they can't just treat Bitcoin consensus deps like normal deps :/
532 2021-10-14T19:05:47  <luke-jr> sipa: at least it refuses to run, rather than running incorrectly ☺
533 2021-10-14T19:06:15  <luke-jr> sipa: Core already doesn't have support for system LevelDB, BTW
534 2021-10-14T19:06:48  <cfields> we have it stubbed out a bit in the buildsystem, though. I'll open a PR to remove the stubs and make it harder for distros to make that decision.
535 2021-10-14T19:07:12  <luke-jr> cfields: please don't.
536 2021-10-14T19:07:21  <luke-jr> cfields: it is possible to do properly, just Debian is incompetent
537 2021-10-14T19:07:38  <cfields> luke-jr: you know we don't agree, i'm not discussing this with you. You can -1 the PR.
538 2021-10-14T19:08:02  <luke-jr> cfields: it's outright sabotage to intentionally break things for no benefit
539 2021-10-14T19:08:43  <luke-jr> nobody is going to change how they link LevelDB just because you try to sabotage it. all you'll do is make things more likely to go wrong.
540 2021-10-14T19:09:56  <elichai2> 🍺🍻🍺
541 2021-10-14T19:10:39  <shiza> Debian knows how to maintain a safe package balance. Sid is meant to be broken.
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543 2021-10-14T19:11:09  <luke-jr> shiza: no, they don't.
544 2021-10-14T19:11:59  <luke-jr> if they did, ordinary leveldb version bumps would not affect their bitcoin packages
545 2021-10-14T19:14:19  <luke-jr> (exception if perhaps they studied the bump and made sure it was consensus-safe before deploying - but clearly this wasn't tested if it doesn't even run)
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547 2021-10-14T19:15:25  <shiza> I didn't know consensus was a word at distros selecting which package versions to support.
548 2021-10-14T19:15:50  <luke-jr> shiza: LevelDB is consensus-critical code for Bitcoin. If it's being maintained without care for consensus, then it's not safe.
549 2021-10-14T19:16:20  <luke-jr> if LevelDB has a bug, that bug must NOT be fixed for Bitcoin.
550 2021-10-14T19:19:59  <shiza> We should just report the problem to the packager, that's all. Whenever Bitcoin is important, they'll assign it to a packager handling less packages, and chance for sloppy upgrades will be smaller.
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552 2021-10-14T19:21:49  <luke-jr> better if they don't package it at all, than do so improperly
553 2021-10-14T19:22:48  <shiza> Much agreed!
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604 2021-10-14T21:22:12  <Guest65> Hi all, quick question (sorry if this is trivially answered somewhere else) why is the new client version 22.0 as opposed to 0.22.0? Is that just an omission of the prefix in the git tag or has there been a change in versioning conventions?
605 2021-10-14T21:24:22  <sipa> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20223
606 2021-10-14T21:24:48  <Guest65> Awesome, thank you.. Sorry I missed it!
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