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 24 2021-11-01T01:45:39  <luke-jr> is it intentional that test-security-check.py doesn't work in standard environments?
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 26 2021-11-01T01:48:46  <luke-jr> fanquake:
 27 2021-11-01T01:52:33  <fanquake> elaborate on doesn’t work and standard
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 37 2021-11-01T02:35:58  <luke-jr> fanquake: it depends on a number of non-standard ld options; eg --no-nxcompat
 38 2021-11-01T02:38:45  <luke-jr> (curiously, standard binutils *does* have a --disable-nxcompat option)
 39 2021-11-01T02:39:46  <fanquake> Sure. We patch in support for those no-* variants into our release binutils, same as Debian does
 40 2021-11-01T02:41:18  <fanquake> So they are nonstandard, but always present in our release environment, which is primarily where the (test)-security-check scripts need to be run
 41 2021-11-01T02:42:15  <luke-jr> as long as it's intentional ☺
 42 2021-11-01T02:43:12  <fanquake> as for the disable-nxcompat in binutils, that is only a quite recent addition
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 44 2021-11-01T02:59:01  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7efc62853957...994aaaa88d41
 45 2021-11-01T02:59:01  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e58598e John Newbery: [addrman] Add doxygen comment to AddrMan::Add()
 46 2021-11-01T02:59:01  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2658eb6 John Newbery: [addrman] Rename Add_() to AddSingle()
 47 2021-11-01T02:59:01  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2095df7 John Newbery: [addrman] Add Add_() inner function, fix Add() return semantics
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 50 2021-11-01T02:59:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #23380: addrman: Fix AddrMan::Add() return semantics and logging (master...2021-10-addrman-add-logging) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23380
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 57 2021-11-01T03:26:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 26a50ab Russell Yanofsky: refactor: Split InterpretOption into Interpret{Key,Value} functions
 58 2021-11-01T03:26:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b8c069b Russell Yanofsky: refactor: Add explicit DISALLOW_NEGATION ArgsManager flag to clarify flag ...
 59 2021-11-01T03:26:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c5d7e34 Russell Yanofsky: scripted-diff: disable unimplemented ArgsManager BOOL/INT/STRING flags
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 62 2021-11-01T03:26:31  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22766: refactor: Clarify and disable unused ArgsManager flags (master...pr/argscripts) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22766
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142 2021-11-01T11:11:26  <bodom> Hi there! I am trying to understand an hex scriptpubkey: "6a04665678a0" bitcoin core API decodes it into ASM as "OP_RETURN -544757350" but, to my understanding, it should be "OP_RETURN -1602726298". Where i am wrong? This is driving me crazy.
143 2021-11-01T11:13:28  <bodom> -544757350 is 9aa987df to my understanding and i can't get where it is coming from
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146 2021-11-01T11:26:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23408: fuzz: Rework ConsumeScript (master...2111-fuzzScript) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23408
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151 2021-11-01T11:41:40  <bodom> finally realized it, thanks
152 2021-11-01T11:41:59  <bodom> i was swapping one bit :D
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162 2021-11-01T12:57:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23409: refactor: Take Span in SetSeed (master...2111-refKey) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23409
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165 2021-11-01T13:03:07  <Guest9861> Hi, I'm wondering if anyone would be ready for a block size increase to 10mb?
166 2021-11-01T13:04:05  <sturles> No
167 2021-11-01T13:04:32  <Guest9861> Okay, care to explain why?
168 2021-11-01T13:04:32  <sturles> (Why?)
169 2021-11-01T13:04:41  <sturles> Why increase the block size?
170 2021-11-01T13:04:48  <Guest9861> Well I figure that would allow everyone on earth roughly 1 transaction per year.
171 2021-11-01T13:05:33  <sturles> Not if they want to run their own node..
172 2021-11-01T13:06:39  <Guest9861> Could you elaborate? I don't see what effect running ones own node would have on transaction throughput.
173 2021-11-01T13:07:02  <sturles> Because it would be too expensive to run a node.  The need for blockchain transactions is going down.  Most people on earth would use LN instead.
174 2021-11-01T13:07:30  <Guest9861> Can I safely store bitcoin on LN long term?
175 2021-11-01T13:08:43  <Guest9861> It just seems like during the next wave of adoption transaction fees are going to spike back up to $50
176 2021-11-01T13:08:46  <sturles> Long enough.  Only a small fraction of earthlings would realistically be able to store a non-dust amount of BTC for the long term.
177 2021-11-01T13:09:32  <Guest9861> Are you aware of the fact that the average earthling has a net worth of around $70k?
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179 2021-11-01T13:10:56  <sturles> Are you aware of how this wealth is distributed?
180 2021-11-01T13:11:14  <Guest9861> Checking one sec
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182 2021-11-01T13:11:52  <Guest9861> okay so median is still about $7500
183 2021-11-01T13:11:57  <sipa> off topic here
184 2021-11-01T13:12:01  <sturles> Yep.
185 2021-11-01T13:12:06  <Guest9861> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
186 2021-11-01T13:12:17  <Guest9861> Sorry sipa
187 2021-11-01T13:12:32  <sipa> this channel is about development of the bitcoin core implementation
188 2021-11-01T13:12:49  <Guest9861> I'm advocating for bigger blocks at some point
189 2021-11-01T13:13:08  <Guest9861> Not necessarily now
190 2021-11-01T13:13:17  <sipa> if you want to propose consensus changes, please get community consensus on it first, e.g. by discussing on the bitcoin-dev mailinglist
191 2021-11-01T13:13:31  <sturles> The blocksize is currently not a bottleneck IMHO, and improvements are already beeing done with taproot and Schnorr signatures.
192 2021-11-01T13:14:06  <sipa> please, take this elsewhere
193 2021-11-01T13:14:13  <Guest9861> Okay thanks! I let you get back on topic now!
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199 2021-11-01T13:25:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3fc3641043be...5adc5c02800f
200 2021-11-01T13:25:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7986faf Hennadii Stepanov: test: Fix segfault in the psbt_wallet_tests/psbt_updater_test
201 2021-11-01T13:25:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 68018e4 Hennadii Stepanov: test: Avoid excessive locking of `cs_wallet`
202 2021-11-01T13:25:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5adc5c0 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23403: test: Fix segfault in the psbt_wallet_tests/p...
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209 2021-11-01T13:28:25  <josibake> is there a way to re-trigger a failed ci task? i am so far unable to reproduce a ci failure locally, so was hoping in the meanwhile to also retry the failed task on cirrus as a sanity check
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211 2021-11-01T13:30:52  <josibake> ah, nvm, figured it out! just needed to be signed into cirrus-labs to see the re-run option
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221 2021-11-01T13:41:12  <sipa> achow101: thoughts on what needs to be done to merge the LEGACY and P2SH_SEGWIT OutputType into a BASE58 OutputType?
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223 2021-11-01T13:42:22  <sipa> for descriptor wallets, if it has an active descriptor for both, i'd say it can preferably pick the P2SH_SEGWIT one, and fall back to the LEGACY one, and turn that into the new BASE58 one
224 2021-11-01T13:42:52  <sipa> not sure what's needed for legacy wallets
225 2021-11-01T13:43:13  <sipa> can it just silently treat BASE58 as P2SH_SEGWIT was treated before?
226 2021-11-01T13:46:36  <sipa> i'm kind of assuming it's leading to misconceptions like https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/459
227 2021-11-01T13:48:33  <hebasto> sipa: is it a time to mention BIPs 380..386 in the https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/bips.md ?
228 2021-11-01T13:49:03  <sipa> hebasto: i guess they should be
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233 2021-11-01T14:29:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #23410: doc: Add output script descriptors BIPs 380..386 (master...211101-bips) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23410
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241 2021-11-01T14:56:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23411: refactor: Avoid integer overflow in ApplyStats when activating snapshot (master...2111-fuzzIntAmt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23411
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260 2021-11-01T15:57:35  <achow101> sipa: I think some legacy wallet users will still want to be able to get legacy addresses
261 2021-11-01T15:58:57  <sipa> i don't see the point of maintaining that feature
262 2021-11-01T16:01:00  <sipa> though, my issue is mostly with descriptor wallets
263 2021-11-01T16:01:18  <sipa> in legacy wallets, the outputtype directly picks the derivation
264 2021-11-01T16:02:17  <sipa> in descriptor wallets, i don't think there is a need for more than one active descriptor per addresstype (base58/bech32/bech32m), as the choice of which derivation is corresponds to is just wallet config
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267 2021-11-01T16:04:45  <achow101> why not have BASE58 be a new output type entirely which will have its own active descriptor? If a wallet doesn't have a BASE58, then we can silently upgrade it by making p2sh-segwit the base58 one, with the fallback to legacy
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270 2021-11-01T16:06:12  <sipa> that's probably easier
271 2021-11-01T16:06:22  <achow101> for new wallets, we can not set active descriptors for p2sh-segwit and legacy, and for old wallets, not remove those records so they can be downgraded
272 2021-11-01T16:09:15  <achow101> it might be even easier to just rename P2SH_SEGWIT as BASE58? and add that the active LEGACY descriptor can be BASE58 if there is not already one.
273 2021-11-01T16:09:54  <achow101> that would even maintain partial downgradability
274 2021-11-01T16:11:09  <sipa> you'd need some special rules about inferring outputtype from descriptors, where now both legacy and p2sh-segwit become valid for base58
275 2021-11-01T16:12:00  <achow101> if (type == LEGACY) return BASE58
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278 2021-11-01T16:16:41  <sipa> renaming p2sh-segwit to base58 also has this problem: what if you invoke `getnewaddress` with p2sh-segwit"
279 2021-11-01T16:16:45  <sipa> as address type?
280 2021-11-01T16:17:17  <achow101> perhaps alias then?
281 2021-11-01T16:17:29  <sipa> if that still gets mapped to OutputType::BASE58, you get the following issue:
282 2021-11-01T16:17:47  <sipa> in a descriptor wallet configured to have pkh() descriptor for base58, it'd return a P2PKH address, despite p2sh-segwit being requested
283 2021-11-01T16:20:30  <achow101> are you planning on having getnewaddress still support legacy and p2sh-segwit output types?
284 2021-11-01T16:21:11  <sipa> for descriptor wallets, there wouldn't be a need (especially not newly created ones)
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286 2021-11-01T16:21:54  <sipa> i'm just pointing out that renaming P2SH_SEGWIT to BASE58 (but then still mapping the "p2sh-segwit" string to BASE58) can lead to unexpected behavior
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288 2021-11-01T16:23:56  <achow101> ah
289 2021-11-01T16:24:17  <achow101> I think it would be possible to limit the acceptable strings by wallet type
290 2021-11-01T16:24:59  <achow101> e.g. p2sh-segwit and legacy are disallowed values for descriptor wallets
291 2021-11-01T16:25:38  <sipa> yeah; but i think that's easier if BASE58 is a separate output type from P2SH_SEGWIT and LEGACY
292 2021-11-01T16:26:01  <achow101> ok
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