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117 2021-12-02T07:35:09  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9a09d30 fanquake: rpc: remove info about mallocinfo needing glibc 2.10+
118 2021-12-02T07:35:09  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a377510 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23643: rpc: remove info about mallocinfo needing gli...
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121 2021-12-02T07:35:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23643: rpc: remove info about mallocinfo needing glibc 2.10+ (master...remove_glibc_10_warning) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23643
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126 2021-12-02T07:41:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7b04a06 Samuel Dobson: Introduce wallet/rpc/util
127 2021-12-02T07:41:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ff945e5 Samuel Dobson: MOVEONLY: Move utility functions from rpcwallet to wallet/rpc/util
128 2021-12-02T07:41:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master af1067c MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23640: MOVEONLY: Move helper functions from rpcwalle...
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131 2021-12-02T07:42:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23640: MOVEONLY: Move helper functions from rpcwallet to wallet/rpc/util (master...202111_split_walletrpc_util) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23640
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153 2021-12-02T08:26:28  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 282cc0c fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23626: refactor: Fix implicit-signed-integer-truncat...
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156 2021-12-02T08:26:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #23626: refactor: Fix implicit-signed-integer-truncation in cuckoocache.h (master...2111-int) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23626
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184 2021-12-02T09:35:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/282cc0cda7a2...6acda4b00b3f
185 2021-12-02T09:35:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ffd0928 James O'Beirne: rpc: various fixups for dumptxoutset
186 2021-12-02T09:35:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6acda4b W. J. van der Laan: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23155: rpc: various fixups for dumptxoutset
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189 2021-12-02T09:36:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #23155: rpc: various fixups for dumptxoutset (master...2021-10-au-rpc-fixes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23155
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224 2021-12-02T11:19:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dougEfresh opened pull request #23648: test: Add functional test for -maxuploadtarget with byte unit '1M' (master...test-byteunit-maxuploadtarget) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23648
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227 2021-12-02T11:20:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dougEfresh closed pull request #23584: test: Adding functional test for -maxuploadtarget with byte unit 'M' (master...maxuploadtarget-functional-byteunit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23584
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238 2021-12-02T12:06:12  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow opened pull request #23649: circular dependency followups (master...22677-followups) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23649
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260 2021-12-02T13:00:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6acda4b00b3f...0bd7ca9a036e
261 2021-12-02T13:00:02  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab0d99 MarcoFalke: style: Remove whitespace
262 2021-12-02T13:00:02  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3333070 MarcoFalke: refactor: Call type-solver earlier in decodescript
263 2021-12-02T13:00:02  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0bd7ca9 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23642: refactor: Call type-solver earlier in decodes...
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266 2021-12-02T13:03:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #23642: refactor: Call type-solver earlier in decodescript (master...2112-rpcRefDec) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23642
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276 2021-12-02T13:35:38  <laanwj> dongcarl: it depends on translatability of the error message; if it's general enough: say, someone with basic knowledge of bitcoin internals can understand it, it should be translated
277 2021-12-02T13:37:28  <laanwj> dongcarl: on the other hand if it's a message about some internal failure scenario then it shouldn't be, it would just confuse and demotivate translators and result in sub-par error messages
278 2021-12-02T13:37:51  <laanwj> but that's the reason to have the *option* of passing a translation string in
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280 2021-12-02T13:38:50  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] KambizAsadzadeh opened pull request #23650: Added some safety features from permissions. (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23650
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285 2021-12-02T13:49:50  <bitcoin-git> [gui] KambizAsadzadeh opened pull request #496: Added some safety features from permissions. (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/496
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288 2021-12-02T14:02:46  <laanwj> i just realized we don't mention in the code comments (nor dev docs of the structures) anywhere that ATMP stands for AcceptToMemoryPool
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291 2021-12-02T14:06:15  <sipa> ow
292 2021-12-02T14:06:31  <ryanofsky> Could I get #23497 added to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8 now that #21206 is off?
293 2021-12-02T14:06:32  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23497 | Add `src/node/` and `src/wallet/` code to `node::` and `wallet::` namespaces by ryanofsky · Pull Request #23497 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
294 2021-12-02T14:06:34  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21206 | refactor: Make CWalletTx sync state type-safe by ryanofsky · Pull Request #21206 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
295 2021-12-02T14:13:22  <laanwj> ryanofsky: added
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303 2021-12-02T14:28:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0bd7ca9a036e...26a1147ce560
304 2021-12-02T14:28:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa815f8 MarcoFalke: Replace addrman.h include with forward decl in net.h
305 2021-12-02T14:28:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa551b3 MarcoFalke: Remove GetAdjustedTime from init.cpp
306 2021-12-02T14:28:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 26a1147 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23636: Remove GetAdjustedTime from init.cpp
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309 2021-12-02T14:29:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #23650: Added some safety features from permissions. (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23650
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312 2021-12-02T14:31:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #23636:  Remove GetAdjustedTime from init.cpp  (master...2111-noTimeInit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23636
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331 2021-12-02T15:16:45  <ryanofsky> laanwj: Thanks!
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366 2021-12-02T16:39:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23652: doc: Document optional result fields in getpeerinfo (master...2112-docOptPeer) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23652
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370 2021-12-02T16:54:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #23653: Generalize/simplify VectorReader into SpanReader (master...202112_spanreader) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23653
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417 2021-12-02T18:38:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/26a1147ce560...bce58bbb3d7b
418 2021-12-02T18:38:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 456e350 S3RK: wallet: resolve ambiguity of two ScriptPubKey managers providing same scri...
419 2021-12-02T18:38:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 03840c2 S3RK: Add CWallet::IsInternalScriptPubKeyMan
420 2021-12-02T18:38:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c1b99c0 S3RK: Return used destinations from ScriptPubKeyMan::MarkUnusedAddresses
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423 2021-12-02T18:38:31  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #22929: wallet: Automatically add receiving destinations to the address book (master...fix_19856) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22929
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427 2021-12-02T18:57:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bce58bbb3d7b...0b30bdd519ae
428 2021-12-02T18:57:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5c3033d Hennadii Stepanov: Add thread safety annotations to CBlockPolicyEstimator public functions
429 2021-12-02T18:57:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5ee5b69 Hennadii Stepanov: refactor: Add non-thread-safe CBlockPolicyEstimator::_removeTx helper
430 2021-12-02T18:57:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8c277b1 Hennadii Stepanov: refactor: Make m_cs_fee_estimator non-recursive
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433 2021-12-02T18:58:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22014: refactor: Make m_cs_fee_estimator non-recursive (master...210521-fees) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22014
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435 2021-12-02T19:00:12  <laanwj> #startmeeting
436 2021-12-02T19:00:13  <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Dec  2 19:00:12 2021 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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438 2021-12-02T19:00:29  <hebasto> hi
439 2021-12-02T19:00:33  <b10c> hi
440 2021-12-02T19:00:41  <kvaciral[m]> hi
441 2021-12-02T19:00:43  <sipa> hi
442 2021-12-02T19:01:01  <laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball
443 2021-12-02T19:01:03  <laanwj> morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
444 2021-12-02T19:01:24  <laanwj> one proposedmeetingtopic: Warn when we have only _old_ peers? (b10c)
445 2021-12-02T19:01:31  <lightlike> hi
446 2021-12-02T19:01:58  <jamesob> hi
447 2021-12-02T19:02:15  <laanwj> any last minute topics?
448 2021-12-02T19:03:15  <laanwj> #topic High priority for review
449 2021-12-02T19:03:15  <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
450 2021-12-02T19:03:18  <meshcollider> hi
451 2021-12-02T19:03:43  <laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8  9 blockers, 1 chasing concept ACK
452 2021-12-02T19:04:09  <laanwj> anything to add/remove or that is almost ready for merge?
453 2021-12-02T19:04:16  <MarcoFalke> can i haz #19499 pls ?
454 2021-12-02T19:04:18  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19499 | p2p: Make timeout mockable and type safe, speed up test by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #19499 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
455 2021-12-02T19:04:42  <jamesob> MarcoFalke: oh cool, will review
456 2021-12-02T19:05:01  <laanwj> MarcoFalke: added
457 2021-12-02T19:05:09  <MarcoFalke> thx
458 2021-12-02T19:06:51  <laanwj> would it make sense to add  #23443? it's a blocker for erlay and the next step
459 2021-12-02T19:06:55  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23443 | p2p: Erlay support signaling by naumenkogs · Pull Request #23443 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
460 2021-12-02T19:07:21  <sipa> won't hurt to add it i guess
461 2021-12-02T19:08:01  <laanwj> ok, will do
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463 2021-12-02T19:09:08  <laanwj> does anyone have other suggestions? or wants to discuss an existing high prio PR?
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465 2021-12-02T19:10:03  <laanwj> if not, let's move on to the next topic
466 2021-12-02T19:10:12  <laanwj> #topic Warn when we have only _old_ peers? (b10c)
467 2021-12-02T19:10:12  <core-meetingbot> topic: Warn when we have only _old_ peers? (b10c)
468 2021-12-02T19:10:25  <b10c> I've posted a few comments about why F2Pool initially didn't include P2TR spends in their blocks to the ML: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-November/019608.html
469 2021-12-02T19:10:32  <b10c> TLDR: buggy patches to their peer selection. An unmaintained heuristic filtered newer Bitcoin Core peers. But, (IMO) unpublished patches are out of scope for the Bitcoin Core project.
470 2021-12-02T19:10:40  <b10c> However, with currently only ~50% of nodes upgraded, it could still be relevant to warn node operators about e.g. only being connected to peers old that don't relay P2TR spends.
471 2021-12-02T19:10:58  <sipa> a first question is: how would this even be detectable
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473 2021-12-02T19:11:03  <b10c> Something like this could be a feature we want before the next soft-fork affecting transaction relay.
474 2021-12-02T19:11:17  <b10c> sipa: right
475 2021-12-02T19:11:25  <b10c> Bump PROTOCOL_VERSION for soft-fork tx relay? service flag e.g. TAPROOT_RELAY? Flag in the version message indicate soft-fork readiness?
476 2021-12-02T19:11:38  <sipa> but this isn't about softforks
477 2021-12-02T19:11:45  <sipa> it's about any change in relay policy
478 2021-12-02T19:12:20  <sipa> though, at least the past few years, the only invasive changes to relay policy (in bitcoin core at least) have been due to softforks, i think
479 2021-12-02T19:13:27  <b10c> and the next question would be: How to warn node operators (besides logging to debug.log)? getnodealerts/getnodewarnings RPC?
480 2021-12-02T19:14:00  <sipa> i think the best approach (assuming there was a way to detect it), would be to add more outgoing connections and/or rotate them faster
481 2021-12-02T19:14:19  <laanwj> we've become kind fo careful about warnings that are not relevant to most users
482 2021-12-02T19:14:30  <sipa> we kind of do something like that when we believe we're only connected to consensus-incompatible peers already
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484 2021-12-02T19:15:07  <sipa> but detecting is kind of ugly, i think... because it goes to concerns like should we try to inform our peers about the entirety of our relay policy?
485 2021-12-02T19:15:27  <sipa> and i'm not sure the problem is big enough of a concern to even get into that
486 2021-12-02T19:16:10  <sipa> relay policy is just policy, after all
487 2021-12-02T19:16:30  <b10c> hmm agree, if it would only be for soft-forks maybe a simple flag would be enough. but gets messy with the entirety of policy
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489 2021-12-02T19:16:47  <lightlike> has this also been an issue in normal circumstances? The mailing list post talks about some artifical addnode scenario, extra automtic outbounds wouldn't help with that.
490 2021-12-02T19:16:54  <laanwj> i do think some heuristic would make sense when broadcasting, e.g. when you broadcast a transaction and no peer relays it back to you
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492 2021-12-02T19:17:09  <sipa> laanwj: that would be useful!
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494 2021-12-02T19:17:28  <sipa> though, that may not be sufficient for this case even
495 2021-12-02T19:17:40  <b10c> that would help in the sender case, not in the miner case
496 2021-12-02T19:17:44  <sipa> as it would only make the original tx broadcasters notice, not intermediaries
497 2021-12-02T19:18:24  <b10c> lightlike: I haven't heard about any other case
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499 2021-12-02T19:19:18  <sipa> given that the first P2TR spends actually reached miners fine within a few blocks kind of shows there were no relay problems (that we know of)
500 2021-12-02T19:19:40  <sipa> and if it's just unfortunate local configuration on the miners side, i don't think this would do much, given what lightlike said
501 2021-12-02T19:19:49  <laanwj> peers witholding certain transactions from you is a subset of the general eclipse problem
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503 2021-12-02T19:20:48  <laanwj> if you're worried about that, especially as a miner you'd likely want to make sure you connect to a few trusted peers (preferably over overlay networks)
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505 2021-12-02T19:21:24  <sipa> b10c: oh i see, your assumption was that it would be warning operators, not just trying to fix things automatically
506 2021-12-02T19:21:42  <sipa> i think the only reliable way to warn operators is by shutting down...
507 2021-12-02T19:22:35  <b10c> that is definitely reliable for a mining pool, but also a DoS vector
508 2021-12-02T19:22:45  <sipa> indeed
509 2021-12-02T19:22:52  <laanwj> shutting down based on a heuristic about connected peers seems kind of drastic
510 2021-12-02T19:23:02  <sipa> yes, i only mentioned it in jest
511 2021-12-02T19:23:16  <laanwj> you can do that of course (a watchdog kind of script), but i see no reason to build that into bitcoin core
512 2021-12-02T19:23:54  <b10c> one idea was a RPC interface (e.g. getnodewarnings) to hook into from your monitoring stack
513 2021-12-02T19:24:09  <b10c> to at least have something well defined
514 2021-12-02T19:24:16  <laanwj> but if you have monitoring software, why not call getpeerinfo
515 2021-12-02T19:24:31  <MarcoFalke> there is already getblockchaininfo()[warnings]
516 2021-12-02T19:24:39  <sipa> yeah...
517 2021-12-02T19:24:43  <laanwj> i suppose all the information you need to decide about node versions is there
518 2021-12-02T19:25:58  <laanwj> it's never more than a heuristic, untrusted nodes can lie about versions, version bits, etc
519 2021-12-02T19:26:14  <laanwj> service bits*
520 2021-12-02T19:27:14  <b10c> cool, thanks! This discussion was helpful for me. Maybe a heuristic for a sender if his transaction got relayed back to him... Everything else might be to ambitious and messy
521 2021-12-02T19:27:37  <sipa> yeah i don't really have any good ideas
522 2021-12-02T19:27:49  <b10c> not relayed*
523 2021-12-02T19:27:50  <laanwj> (which is also what makes it somewhat scary as a built-in warning; i remember the spurious new-unsupported-version warnings with the block version bits when miners started using them for... other things)
524 2021-12-02T19:27:56  <laanwj> right
525 2021-12-02T19:28:58  <laanwj> any other topics?
526 2021-12-02T19:30:16  <laanwj> closing the meeting, thanks everyone for attending
527 2021-12-02T19:30:20  <laanwj> #endmeeting
528 2021-12-02T19:30:20  <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
529 2021-12-02T19:30:20  <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Dec  2 19:30:19 2021 UTC.
530 2021-12-02T19:30:20  <core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-12-02-19.00.moin.txt
531 2021-12-02T19:30:26  <gene> thanks for the meeting all
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533 2021-12-02T19:30:47  <b10c> thanks!
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538 2021-12-02T20:08:33  <cfields> whoops, missed the meeting.
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571 2021-12-02T21:32:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Baumgartl opened pull request #23658: contrib: add check for wget command in install_db4.sh (master...contrib-patches) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23658
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587 2021-12-02T22:00:44  <jamesob> was there some merge causing unrebased PRs to start failing? seeing a lot of unrelated "TypeError: generatetoaddress() missing 1 required keyword-only argument: 'invalid_call'" failures in the functional tests for new PRs
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589 2021-12-02T22:02:28  <sipa> i'm seeing that too
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591 2021-12-02T22:04:54  <jamesob> fix incoming
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593 2021-12-02T22:08:54  <jamesob> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23659
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595 2021-12-02T22:08:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob opened pull request #23659: test: fix: remove outdated TestNode.generate calls (master...2021-12-fix-listtransactions-generate) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23659
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