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194 2021-12-20T06:59:03  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 33b5112 Andrew Chow: contrib: add achow101 to trusted keys
195 2021-12-20T06:59:03  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8eeb4e9 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23798: contrib: add achow101 to trusted keys
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209 2021-12-20T07:15:55  <meshcollider> \o/
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211 2021-12-20T07:17:13  <achow101> Hmm
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238 2021-12-20T08:02:57  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ef7c822 Matt Corallo: Expose block filters over REST.
239 2021-12-20T08:02:57  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2b64fa3 Matt Corallo: Update REST docs with new accessors
240 2021-12-20T08:02:57  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 70d6a09 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#17631: Expose block filters over REST
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252 2021-12-20T08:14:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/70d6a09f5ccd...1c41fb918155
253 2021-12-20T08:14:34  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0a1b6fa Martin Zumsande: test: fix intermittent timeouts in p2p_timeouts.py
254 2021-12-20T08:14:34  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1c41fb9 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23812: test: fix intermittent failures in p2p_timeou...
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258 2021-12-20T08:14:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23812: test: fix intermittent failures in p2p_timeouts.py (master...202112_p2p_timeout_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23812
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267 2021-12-20T08:21:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8bdd924 josibake: refactor: addrman_selecttriedcollisions test
268 2021-12-20T08:21:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e281fcc josibake: refactor: addrman_noevict test
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272 2021-12-20T08:22:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23780: refactor, test: update `addrman_tests.cpp` to use output from `AddrMan::Good()` (master...josibake-addrman-test-refactors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23780
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304 2021-12-20T09:05:15  <laanwj> jb55: boost removing itself function by function would have the same end result
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310 2021-12-20T09:08:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 919ae8b glozow: [doc] current rbf policy
311 2021-12-20T09:08:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1fd49eb glozow: [doc] clarify RBF difference from BIP125
312 2021-12-20T09:08:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 82858ba glozow: [doc] CPFP carve out and single-conflict RBF exemption
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401 2021-12-20T10:50:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 92082ea Shashwat: Change time variable type to std::chrono::seconds in src/net_processing.cp...
402 2021-12-20T10:50:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3ec8f9f MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23801: Refactor: Change time variable type from int6...
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405 2021-12-20T10:50:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23801: Refactor: Change time variable type from int64_t to std::chrono::seconds in net_processing.cpp (master...time_in_seconds_refactor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23801
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419 2021-12-20T11:03:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cfeb194 Luke Dashjr: ci: Use Cirrus "greedy" flag to use idle CPU time when available
420 2021-12-20T11:03:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 20aea49 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23797: ci: Use Cirrus "greedy" flag to use idle CPU ...
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423 2021-12-20T11:03:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23797: ci: Use Cirrus "greedy" flag to use idle CPU time when available (master...cirrus_greedy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23797
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485 2021-12-20T12:34:13  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 140a49c Sebastian Falbesoner: test: check that pruneblockchain RPC fails for future block or timestamp
486 2021-12-20T12:34:13  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9ac064d MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23796: test: check that pruneblockchain RPC fails fo...
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489 2021-12-20T12:34:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23796: test: check that pruneblockchain RPC fails for future block or timestamp (master...202112-test-add_pruneblockchain_test_coverage) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23796
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762 2021-12-20T18:35:51  <laanwj> achow101: congrats on becoming maintainer! you should have the right permissions to merge now
763 2021-12-20T18:48:40  <jamesob> achow101: yeah congrats, meant to ACK
764 2021-12-20T18:50:06  <laanwj> jamesob: you still can :)
765 2021-12-20T18:50:20  <jamesob> good point!
766 2021-12-20T18:50:27  <jamesob> posthumous ACKs are good ACKs
767 2021-12-20T18:51:17  <laanwj> exactly, reviewing things that are merged is also important
768 2021-12-20T18:54:33  <sipa> right!
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771 2021-12-20T19:22:32  <jeremyrubin> dont' want to make github noisier, but the reason why i think that merging more features into a system that should be fully deprecated (IMO) is that if this is "the feature" that is currently blocking a user from relying on REST API then while it doesn't increase the mechanical work of deprecation, it does increase the future inconvenience/users
772 2021-12-20T19:22:32  <jeremyrubin> arguing against deprecation.
773 2021-12-20T19:23:24  <jeremyrubin> so that's why i don't feel the 'adding features to something that should go away' is separate from 'patch giving an alternative path for users to get same feature outside of core'
774 2021-12-20T19:23:40  <jeremyrubin> because we should steer users in that direction anyways.
775 2021-12-20T19:25:41  <sipa> If there were already agreement that the built-in REST interface should be deprecated, I might have agreed with that, but I don't feel that's the case (of course, I may be biased, because I personally don't feel it should be).
776 2021-12-20T19:29:16  <jb55> didn't even know there was a rest interface
777 2021-12-20T19:29:21  <earnestly> TIL
778 2021-12-20T19:29:25  <jeremyrubin> definitely a larger question. I think we should remove almost everything that isn't required to keep a node operating in the 'standard' network, which is clearly a lot more aggressive than most, but the REST API seemed to be an easy punching bag of something that really clearly doesn't need to be in core
779 2021-12-20T19:29:46  <jeremyrubin> and there are negative security risks of turning on the feature
780 2021-12-20T19:29:48  <jeremyrubin> jb55 if this makes you start using it *shakes fist*
781 2021-12-20T19:30:22  <jb55> all my scripts are built around the jsonrpc, I don't see why I would need it
782 2021-12-20T19:30:24  <sipa> I don't think there are negative security risks of turning it on, given that there already is an RPC interface.
783 2021-12-20T19:30:30  <jeremyrubin> not true
784 2021-12-20T19:30:46  <jeremyrubin> if you expose REST on your system immediately any malicious website can DoS your nodes RPC interface
785 2021-12-20T19:31:00  <sipa> They can DoS your RPC interface too.
786 2021-12-20T19:31:45  <jb55> when graphql interface
787 2021-12-20T19:32:25  <jeremyrubin> jb55 idk make a PR. but i really think these should be layers on top of RPC api as a proxy
788 2021-12-20T19:32:39  <jeremyrubin> sipa not as badly since they won't pass auth
789 2021-12-20T19:32:56  <sipa> There is no rate-limiting on the pre-auth aspect of RPC either.
790 2021-12-20T19:33:16  <jeremyrubin> whereas the REST API i can troll to make my node output gigabytes of data pretty cheaply
791 2021-12-20T19:33:23  <jb55> I have always dreamed of a custom query engine, might be overkill but would be neat
792 2021-12-20T19:34:05  <sipa> You can send gigabytes to the RPC interface too, without authentication.
793 2021-12-20T19:34:49  <jeremyrubin> send gigabytes from attacker is "backpressured" though by requiring the client to also push that amount of data through.
794 2021-12-20T19:35:01  <jeremyrubin> Receive gigabytes is an amplification attack
795 2021-12-20T19:35:12  <jeremyrubin> if I can send O(1) data and get O(N) back that's bad
796 2021-12-20T19:35:34  <jeremyrubin> send and recv are not symmetric in costs to our node
797 2021-12-20T19:36:05  <sipa> Hmm, I think they are. Both have a processing cost to bitcoind. The constant factors may differ a bit, but there is no qualitative difference I'd say.
798 2021-12-20T19:36:11  <jamesob> does the REST server use a separate HTTP/auth mechanism than the RPC server? Because if so running it almost definitionally increases attack surface, just a matter of how marginally it does so
799 2021-12-20T19:36:23  <jeremyrubin> it uses exaclty the same HTTP server
800 2021-12-20T19:36:29  <sipa> REST is unauthenticated.
801 2021-12-20T19:36:29  <jeremyrubin> REST is 100% unauthenticated
802 2021-12-20T19:36:40  <jamesob> oh gotcha
803 2021-12-20T19:36:51  <jeremyrubin> jamesob not even a separate instance of the same server, the same one
804 2021-12-20T19:36:56  <sipa> I'm obviously assuming no bugs in the REST handling code itself.
805 2021-12-20T19:37:49  <sipa> Additional code obviously increases attack surface - but that's true for literally every feature we want. It's also true for having it in a wrapper, as the wrapper needs RPC auth access, which means a bug in the wrapper could also expose more issues.
806 2021-12-20T19:38:14  <jamesob> right, I think that's what jeremyrubin was getting at, eh?
807 2021-12-20T19:38:31  <jamesob> but the actual risk is probably not big if REST is disabled by default...
808 2021-12-20T19:38:35  <jb55> does anyone know anyone actually using the rest interface in production apps? a bit sketch that we are maintaining two separate rpc interfaces.
809 2021-12-20T19:39:00  <jamesob> jb55 good question; I sure don't
810 2021-12-20T19:39:19  <jeremyrubin> There absolutely is a difference between receiving a GB and sending a GB. there are inherent backpressures driven by OS scheduling and similar and similar that make sending dampened.
811 2021-12-20T19:39:27  <jamesob> everyone I know backs up to the JSON-RPC interface
812 2021-12-20T19:40:40  <jeremyrubin> sipa the nice thing about the wrapper is that a wrapper can live on e.g. a separate user, separate process, separate server, can also load balance across nodes if desireable, and can  use RPC Whitelist credentials so that it being broken mitigates what can happen
813 2021-12-20T19:40:43  <sipa> jeremyrubin: I think that's true for network interfaces, because aplification can be used to overload the network link before exhausting CPU on either attacker of victim system.
814 2021-12-20T19:41:24  <jeremyrubin> well so here the 'call is coming inside the house' as the issue is you visit a webpage and they ping your localhost server
815 2021-12-20T19:41:26  <sipa> But if you assume a local attacker, they can do whatever causes max CPU usage in bitcoind, whether that's done through sending or receiving.
816 2021-12-20T19:42:00  <jeremyrubin> i guess it's worth testing. i'd assume browsers protect you from your webpages hosing your network.
817 2021-12-20T19:42:09  <jeremyrubin> (network interfaces)
818 2021-12-20T19:42:16  <sipa> Unless the website itself is running on http://localhost, I don't think you can make connections to localhost? same origin policy etc.
819 2021-12-20T19:42:24  <jeremyrubin> you can atually
820 2021-12-20T19:48:32  <jeremyrubin> https://frankli.ece.gatech.edu/papers/li-imc2021-weblocal.pdf
821 2021-12-20T19:52:51  <sipa> Interesting.
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827 2021-12-20T19:58:03  <jeremyrubin> also bad would be being able to detect a user is running bitcoin software while web browsing, even if no request is fired. but that applies to jsonrpc too
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830 2021-12-20T20:02:20  <jeremyrubin> overall i think it'd just be good if we only exposed Unix Sockets and had everything else be done via proxy. We can get all the local services working as we want them do (e/g bitcoin-cli) and industrial users should already be proxying. it's just attack surface with little benefit
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832 2021-12-20T20:04:28  <sipa> I'd very much like to see at least a UNIX domain socket added, but it seems earlier attempts to do that were complicated by lack of unix support on the client-side of libevent, which is used in bitcoin-cli.
833 2021-12-20T20:04:49  <sipa> There have been discussions about alternative approaches, but so far nobody who has investigated/worked on it further.
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836 2021-12-20T20:07:14  <jamesob> > see at least a UNIX domain socket added
837 2021-12-20T20:07:15  <jamesob> sounds like a great first project for an enterprising new contributor...
838 2021-12-20T20:07:48  <jeremyrubin> i agree that'd be a good first step
839 2021-12-20T20:09:07  <jb55> we use unix sockets on the clightning side and people mostly complain about it and want web rpcs
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843 2021-12-20T20:16:27  <earnestly> jb55: Can't they use web sockets?
844 2021-12-20T20:17:19  <jb55> earnestly: no that is not the same thing other than having the same word in the name
845 2021-12-20T20:17:30  <earnestly> Hmmm
846 2021-12-20T20:18:31  <sipa> <jamesob> "sounds like a great first..." <- Given that laanwj tried and gave up, I'm not sure I'd classify it as "great first project".
847 2021-12-20T20:19:21  <earnestly> jb55: Yeah I was thinking of something else, that doesn't exist, fever dream
848 2021-12-20T20:19:33  <sipa> (by which I absolutely don't want to discourage anyone who wants to try either!)
849 2021-12-20T20:19:47  <jamesob> sipa: oh I thought laanwj tried to allow p2p access via unix socket, but maybe he triedboth
850 2021-12-20T20:20:10  <sipa> No, RPC. P2P doesn't use libevent.
851 2021-12-20T20:20:33  <sipa> Unless we're talking about different things.
852 2021-12-20T20:20:36  <jamesob> #9979
853 2021-12-20T20:20:38  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9979 | p2p: Bare minimum to support UNIX sockets by laanwj · Pull Request #9979 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
854 2021-12-20T20:21:15  <jamesob> ^ which, by the way, I think is very much worth pickingup
855 2021-12-20T20:21:28  <sipa> Oh, I was talking about https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9919.
856 2021-12-20T20:21:59  <jamesob> Ahh yep, just found that. So I guess he tried both. Valiant attempts!
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