1 2022-01-10T00:02:29  <prayank> fanquake: personally I consider personal lot of times medium accouunts and some stackexchange answers can be be of same level. and some answers even have those links. so there is nothing special with stackexchange. btw i am in top 5 based on 5 my answers in last year on bitcoin stackexchange..
  2 2022-01-10T00:02:30  <prayank> I agree links could be avoided. However I felt people should have a choice to click and read something related but not edited.
  3 2022-01-10T00:03:48  <prayank> > medium post suggests upgrading to an  alternative client, which has an experimental fix, for a problem that  bitcoin core didn't even post an advisory for (you can see why in the  IRC logs). I think that would be confusing to link to, rather than just  linking to our own documentation in json-rpc-interface.md, which was  added in response to the same problem
  4 2022-01-10T00:04:02  <prayank> if there is a better client people should use it
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  6 2022-01-10T00:07:57  <prayank> I would have to read json-rpc-interface.md again which even I had changed once
  7 2022-01-10T00:09:13  <prayank> people have lot of issues with it but nobody has the courage to open a pr that gets closed/nacked/something-else
  8 2022-01-10T00:10:01  <sipa> Let's stay constructive please.
  9 2022-01-10T00:10:13  <sipa> We all want the project to be the best it can be.
 10 2022-01-10T00:10:55  <sipa> Topics like these are inevitably going to lead to constroversies. That doesn't mean we can't improve things
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 15 2022-01-10T00:25:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ariard closed pull request #19645: Allow updating mempool-txn with cheaper witnesses (master...2020-08-wtxid-replacement) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19645
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 23 2022-01-10T00:56:45  <luke-jr> fanquake: it lists Knots as one of several options to mitigate the vulnerability; this should only be a problem if you have a problem with any website acknowledging Knots even exists, which is absurd
 24 2022-01-10T00:58:00  <luke-jr> (the language is even biased *against* that option, recommending the other options over it)
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 33 2022-01-10T03:00:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2e01b6986099...542e405a8517
 34 2022-01-10T03:00:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e158a2a 0xb10c: build: add systemtap's sys/sdt.h as depends
 35 2022-01-10T03:00:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6200fbf 0xb10c: build: rename --enable-ebpf to --enable-usdt
 36 2022-01-10T03:00:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 542e405 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23724: build: add systemtap's sys/sdt.h as depends f...
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 39 2022-01-10T03:00:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #23724: build: add systemtap's sys/sdt.h as depends for GUIX builds with USDT tracepoints (master...2021-12-usdt-depends) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23724
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 80 2022-01-10T05:28:32  <meshcollider> I guess it's a bit off topic here actually, I'll ask in wizards
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403 2022-01-10T09:56:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/542e405a8517...3d0850cec103
404 2022-01-10T09:56:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c6d15c4 Pieter Wuille: [moveonly] Move MapIntoRange() to separate util/fastrange.h
405 2022-01-10T09:56:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 96ecd6f Pieter Wuille: scripted-diff: rename MapIntoRange to FastRange64
406 2022-01-10T09:56:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master efab28b Pieter Wuille: Add FastRange32 function and use it throughout the codebase
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409 2022-01-10T09:56:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23994: Consolidate all uses of the fast range mapping technique in util/fastrange.h (master...202201_fastrange) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23994
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457 2022-01-10T15:14:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mzumsande opened pull request #24021: Rename and move PoissonNextSend functions (master...202201_jnewbery_poisson_rename) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24021
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508 2022-01-10T20:55:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Thomodachi opened pull request #24023: Update bitcoin_de.ts (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24023
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512 2022-01-10T20:58:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob reopened pull request #22485: index: doc/log BaseIndex sync behavior with empty datadir (master...2021-07-index-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22485
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517 2022-01-10T21:05:03  <Kaizen_K_> Question, I'm reading up on segwit for the chaincode class, chapter 2, and I'm reading about the signature verification optimization of checksig and checkmultisig having their complexity dropped from O(n**2) -> O(n), how did it do this?
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519 2022-01-10T21:10:46  <sipa> Maybe https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/54264/which-kinds-of-transactions-show-quadratic-signature-hashing-scaling helps?
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523 2022-01-10T21:19:28  <Kaizen_K_> This helps a lot, thanks. From my understanding, It is the way inputs were hashed. With the witness script removed, this solves the extra hashing for verification that is needed?
524 2022-01-10T21:19:57  <sipa> No, that's not it.
525 2022-01-10T21:20:01  <Kaizen_K_> derp
526 2022-01-10T21:20:21  <sipa> In BIP143 the part of the signature message that depends on the number of inputs is precomputed once for the entire transaction.
527 2022-01-10T21:20:28  <Kaizen_K_> ahhh
528 2022-01-10T21:20:30  <sipa> Rather than substituted into every signature message.
529 2022-01-10T21:20:55  <Kaizen_K_> thanks!
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531 2022-01-10T21:27:42  <Kaizen_K_> Cool, and that pre computation looks like it is the hashPrevouts, hashSequence and hashOutputs from a previous transaction that can just be reused.
532 2022-01-10T21:27:57  <sipa> Indeed.
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534 2022-01-10T21:28:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #24024: Remove cs_main lock annotation from ChainstateManager.m_blockman (master...pr/block) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24024
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537 2022-01-10T21:36:12  <Kaizen_K_> Are nSequence and nLocktime used in conjunction to do a staggered payments? So I can construct a transaction with multiple inputs that sequentially unlock over a set time period?
538 2022-01-10T21:37:10  <sipa> A transaction always executes atomically. It either spends all its inputs, producing all its outputs, or doesn't do anything at all (because it is invalid).
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540 2022-01-10T21:37:20  <Kaizen_K_> Oh okay
541 2022-01-10T21:37:34  <Kaizen_K_> that is good to know
542 2022-01-10T21:37:38  <Kaizen_K_> ty
543 2022-01-10T21:37:38  <sipa> You can construct chains of transactions where one depends on the previous one though.
544 2022-01-10T21:37:53  <Kaizen_K_> Cool
545 2022-01-10T21:38:01  <sipa> Or you can use OP_CSV / OP_CLTV to create outputs that can only be spent in transaction that have a certain locktime/nsequence.
546 2022-01-10T21:38:49  <Kaizen_K_> I will look those up
547 2022-01-10T21:39:10  <sipa> BIP 65 for OP_CLTV.
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549 2022-01-10T21:40:22  <Kaizen_K_> perfect, the bips are excellent cause they provide the nitty gritty details of what I need to map my braad and foggy understanding of bitcoin to the implimentations of
550 2022-01-10T21:40:38  <Kaizen_K_> *implimentation.
551 2022-01-10T21:41:35  <sipa> implementations :)
552 2022-01-10T21:42:06  <Kaizen_K_> My spelling and grammar could use some improvement. :) ty
553 2022-01-10T21:42:42  <sipa> BIP 68 for the modern semantics of nSequence; BIP 112 for OP_CSV
554 2022-01-10T21:42:51  <Kaizen_K_> ty
555 2022-01-10T21:43:21  <sipa> For more questions, https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com is a better place.
556 2022-01-10T21:43:28  <Kaizen_K_> ty
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558 2022-01-10T21:45:27  <roconnor> BIP 113 for the cherry on top.
559 2022-01-10T21:46:01  <Kaizen_K_> loaded that one up, ty
560 2022-01-10T21:46:15  <Kaizen_K_> This is going to take a while to digest, holy smokes
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562 2022-01-10T21:47:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3d0850cec103...80ceede7a0bf
563 2022-01-10T21:47:14  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa8e01a MarcoFalke: doc: Remove outdated scriptChange TODO comment
564 2022-01-10T21:47:14  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 80ceede Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23884: doc: Remove outdated scriptChange TODO commen...
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567 2022-01-10T21:47:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #23884: doc: Remove outdated scriptChange TODO comment (master...2112-docWall2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23884
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572 2022-01-10T21:58:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #24025: test: MiniWallet: support default `from_node` for sending/creating txs (master...202201-test-MiniWallet-use_default_node_send_create_txs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24025
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576 2022-01-10T22:04:50  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #24026: Block unsafe std::string fs::path conversion copy_file calls (master...220110-copyfile) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24026
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581 2022-01-10T22:26:49  <dhruv> Is there any history of running all functional test multiple times with varying CLI arguments? Working on BIP324, I am adding in a new CLI arg: -v2transport. I'm wondering if it would be prudent to run all functional tests with -v2transport=0 and also -v2transport=1
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583 2022-01-10T22:27:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #24023: Fixing typo in bitcoin_de.ts (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24023
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585 2022-01-10T22:27:56  <sipa> dhruv: I'd run all test with v2transaction by default, and have a few ones (specifically ones focused on p2p stuff) that also run in v1.
586 2022-01-10T22:28:17  <sipa> There is some precedent with the descriptor/legacy wallet tests.
587 2022-01-10T22:28:25  <sipa> *v2transport
588 2022-01-10T22:36:01  <dhruv> sipa: thx
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