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 25 2022-02-03T02:45:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c545a7aeb1d5...0f43fb5d8745
 26 2022-02-03T02:45:03  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 01e121d Cory Fields: depends: fix capnp's descriptor for make download
 27 2022-02-03T02:45:03  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0f43fb5 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24240: depends: fix capnp's descriptor for make down...
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 35 2022-02-03T02:53:31  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 01d1845 Hennadii Stepanov: build, qt: Specify QMAKE_CXX explicitly
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120 2022-02-03T07:29:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] bhaskarvilles opened pull request #24246: Command Injection (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24246
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123 2022-02-03T07:31:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #24246: Command Injection (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24246
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127 2022-02-03T07:35:03  <Guest> Hii I have successfully built Bitcoin core on Windows with the help of Visual Studio.. I want to take this (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20576) issue as the starting point of contribution.. Could you please tell some code pointers related to this issue?
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131 2022-02-03T07:45:50  <Guest> Please confirm if it is logging.cpp and logging.h
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142 2022-02-03T09:22:57  <Guest> I am new to git.. I am trying to push a commit regarding this (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20576) .. I am getting this message when I am trying to push the code remote: Permission to bitcoin/bitcoin.git denied to anshu-khare-design ..
143 2022-02-03T09:23:06  <Guest> My commit branch is different from master branch
144 2022-02-03T09:23:41  <fanquake> This isn't a how-to-use git / github support channel
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150 2022-02-03T10:26:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] anshu-khare-design opened pull request #24247: Issue 20576 (master...issue_20576) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24247
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160 2022-02-03T12:21:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #24250: Update translations for 0.23 string freeze (master...2022-02-english-translation) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24250
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165 2022-02-03T12:30:44  <laanwj> fanquake: agree, it's not even a "building bitcoin core" support channel
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167 2022-02-03T12:31:40  <laanwj> it's fine to ask questions about specific weird issues here but it's a development discussion channel, not a hand-holding channel, please see the topic
168 2022-02-03T12:34:49  <laanwj> that said, you should push to your own remote (clone) of the repository, not to the upstream one, that's not allowed for obvious reasons :)
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188 2022-02-03T14:35:11  <pavanj> Hello! I am Pavan. Looking forward to contribute to this Community
189 2022-02-03T14:36:15  <sipa> Hello Pavan!
190 2022-02-03T14:38:04  <pavanj> It will be great, if someone can assign me any Beginner task or good first issue on which I can work on.
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194 2022-02-03T14:53:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c194293883fb...3ace3a17c9bc
195 2022-02-03T14:53:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ffc89d1 fanquake: build: add support for std::filesystem
196 2022-02-03T14:53:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 41d7166 Kiminuo: refactor: replace boost::filesystem with std::filesystem
197 2022-02-03T14:53:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b87f9c5 Kiminuo: build: remove boost::filesystem usage
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200 2022-02-03T14:53:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20744: Use std::filesystem. Remove Boost Filesystem & System (master...use_std_filesystem) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20744
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202 2022-02-03T14:53:27  <hebasto> \o/
203 2022-02-03T14:58:41  <Earnestly> hmm
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214 2022-02-03T15:46:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #24251: Re-enable windows path tests disabled by #20744 (master...pr/wp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24251
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219 2022-02-03T15:55:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #24252: bench: Represent paths with fs::path instead of std::string (master...pr/bp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24252
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223 2022-02-03T16:07:10  <Earnestly> nice, it builds
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228 2022-02-03T16:19:48  <cfields> woohoo, cya boost (file)system!
229 2022-02-03T16:19:57  <Earnestly> This is nice trend
230 2022-02-03T16:20:11  <sipa> Your services are no longer required.
231 2022-02-03T16:20:13  <sipa> (we hope)
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233 2022-02-03T16:22:23  <MarcoFalke> Likely will have to re-introduce boost system on Ubuntu Bionic, but let's see
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240 2022-02-03T16:47:35  <stick> what's the oldest version of debian and ubuntu we aim to support?
241 2022-02-03T16:48:04  <stick> debian 9 is still supported by upstream; do we support debian 9?
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245 2022-02-03T16:50:46  <hebasto> debian 9 has boost 1.62, so building depends required
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249 2022-02-03T17:27:35  <MarcoFalke> stick: See #24164
250 2022-02-03T17:27:36  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24164 | build: Bump minimum required clang/libc++ to 8.0 by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #24164 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
251 2022-02-03T17:27:58  <MarcoFalke> They all ship with clang-10 or better, so you can build from depends
252 2022-02-03T17:37:26  <stick> MarcoFalke: thanks, makes sense
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268 2022-02-03T19:00:04  <laanwj> #startmeeting
269 2022-02-03T19:00:04  <core-meetingbot`> Meeting started Thu Feb  3 19:00:04 2022 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
270 2022-02-03T19:00:04  <core-meetingbot`> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
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272 2022-02-03T19:00:20  <dongcarl> hello
273 2022-02-03T19:00:22  <laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball
274 2022-02-03T19:00:23  <laanwj> morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
275 2022-02-03T19:00:27  <jonatack> hi
276 2022-02-03T19:00:27  <provoostenator> hi
277 2022-02-03T19:00:29  <hebasto> hi
278 2022-02-03T19:00:35  <achow101> hi
279 2022-02-03T19:00:38  <sipa> hi
280 2022-02-03T19:00:51  <laanwj> there have been no proposed meeting topics this week (this can be done using #proposedmeetingtopic <topic>), any last-minute ones?
281 2022-02-03T19:00:56  <michaelfolkson> hi
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283 2022-02-03T19:01:27  <MarcoFalke> hi
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285 2022-02-03T19:01:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #24253:  Remove broken and unused CDataStream methods  (master...2202-s) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24253
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287 2022-02-03T19:02:32  <cfields> hi
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290 2022-02-03T19:03:28  <warren> hi
291 2022-02-03T19:03:39  <laanwj> PSA: today the string freeze for 0.23 started, after #24250 is merged i'll open the translations
292 2022-02-03T19:03:41  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24250 | Update translations for 0.23 string freeze by laanwj · Pull Request #24250 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
293 2022-02-03T19:03:43  <jeremyrubin> Gm
294 2022-02-03T19:04:03  <laanwj> #topic High priority for review
295 2022-02-03T19:04:03  <core-meetingbot`> topic: High priority for review
296 2022-02-03T19:04:19  <laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8 -- only 6 blockers left
297 2022-02-03T19:04:32  <kanzure> hi
298 2022-02-03T19:04:34  <b10c> hi
299 2022-02-03T19:04:42  <sipa> i'd like to suggest #23542 for high priority (or really, for trying to get it in v23)
300 2022-02-03T19:04:44  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23542 | net: open p2p connections to nodes that listen on non-default ports by vasild · Pull Request #23542 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
301 2022-02-03T19:05:32  <laanwj> sipa: added (and added 23.0 milestone)
302 2022-02-03T19:05:39  <sipa> Thanks!
303 2022-02-03T19:05:50  <jonatack> #23604 has 4 acks
304 2022-02-03T19:05:53  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23604 | Use Sock in CNode by vasild · Pull Request #23604 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
305 2022-02-03T19:06:30  <jonatack> sipa: +1
306 2022-02-03T19:06:36  <laanwj> jonatack: great!
307 2022-02-03T19:07:03  <laanwj> anything else to add, remove or that is (almost) ready for merge?
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310 2022-02-03T19:09:04  <laanwj> the boost::filesystem removal was merged today, i'd recommend testing the current master branch on as many platforms and operating systems as you can to make sure any issues come to light
311 2022-02-03T19:09:16  <sipa> Good idea.
312 2022-02-03T19:09:27  <warren> That was the last boost dependency?
313 2022-02-03T19:09:32  <laanwj> i don't expect anything but you never know!
314 2022-02-03T19:09:48  <michaelfolkson> Presumably #22558 shouldn't get 23.0 milestone? Not much review yet
315 2022-02-03T19:09:49  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22558 | psbt: Taproot fields for PSBT by achow101 · Pull Request #22558 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
316 2022-02-03T19:10:15  <michaelfolkson> Would be nice to get some Taproot stuff in 23.0 but obviously needs review
317 2022-02-03T19:10:15  <laanwj> warren: there's still signals2, which is quite easy to replace, and boost::multi_index, which is not
318 2022-02-03T19:10:27  <sipa> warren: We have lots of boost dependencies still, but most are headers-only
319 2022-02-03T19:10:29  <sipa> or all?
320 2022-02-03T19:10:41  <warren> Is it a goal to get rid of boost eventually?
321 2022-02-03T19:10:43  <laanwj> sipa: afaik yes
322 2022-02-03T19:10:52  <hebasto> all are headers only except for Boost.Test
323 2022-02-03T19:10:57  <sipa> warren: I don't care about getting rid of headers-only ones.
324 2022-02-03T19:11:02  <luke-jr> no
325 2022-02-03T19:11:07  <sipa> They're just a build-time dependency.
326 2022-02-03T19:11:07  <laanwj> ah yes, boost::test, didn't count that one as it's test only
327 2022-02-03T19:11:38  <laanwj> right, there's no real hurry, though signals2 is kinda ugly due to the enormous backtraces it generates
328 2022-02-03T19:11:56  <sipa> boost::multi_index in particular would be a major engineering challenge to replace with anything similar in functionality
329 2022-02-03T19:12:15  <laanwj> yeah... might just import that one :)
330 2022-02-03T19:12:32  <MarcoFalke> Someone should shepherd multi_index into C++26
331 2022-02-03T19:12:46  <laanwj> in any case, it's fine, would be good if it was behind a pimpl though so it didn't get imported into every other file
332 2022-02-03T19:13:08  <laanwj> MarcoFalke: yea!
333 2022-02-03T19:13:13  <sipa> right
334 2022-02-03T19:14:25  <laanwj> michaelfolkson: not sure really, if it makes 23.0 it makes 23.0, but i'm not sure it makes sense to specialy label it for that
335 2022-02-03T19:14:47  <jonatack> could #24165 be tagged for v23?
336 2022-02-03T19:14:48  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24165 | p2p: extend inbound eviction protection by network to CJDNS peers by jonatack · Pull Request #24165 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
337 2022-02-03T19:15:18  <jonatack> vasild and i are coordinating to propose a doc/cjdns.md for v23 as well
338 2022-02-03T19:15:27  <sipa> cool
339 2022-02-03T19:15:28  <laanwj> if it's unlikely to make it, it shouldn't be added to the milestone, generally nothing but critical fixes actually blocks a release anyway
340 2022-02-03T19:15:33  <laanwj> jonatack: will do
341 2022-02-03T19:15:56  <jonatack> thanks!
342 2022-02-03T19:16:58  <laanwj> jonatack: concept ACK, though, should keep it compact imo, i don't think we should end up with extensive documentation about setting up all kind of overlay network in our repo
343 2022-02-03T19:17:48  <laanwj> granted, tor.md is pretty big but that's mainly because we have a lot of configurability related to tor
344 2022-02-03T19:18:19  <jonatack> laanwj: yes. the main thing people seem to trip up on when getting started is the find a friend part (myself included).
345 2022-02-03T19:18:33  <laanwj> jonatack: yes, that's always the difficult part :)
346 2022-02-03T19:19:03  <Murch> #proposedmeetingtopic sweep vs subtract-fee-from-output
347 2022-02-03T19:19:04  <laanwj> i hope cjdns.md will help some people find friends :p
348 2022-02-03T19:19:15  <jonatack> :)))
349 2022-02-03T19:19:21  <sipa> Murch: For this meeting, or wallet meeting?
350 2022-02-03T19:20:20  <michaelfolkson> Has to wait a week if it is wallet meeting :)
351 2022-02-03T19:20:56  <Murch> Pieter: If this meeting runs out of topics, I'd be happy to talk about it here, but otherwise wallet meeting is fine, too.
352 2022-02-03T19:21:11  <laanwj> we're out of topic right now, so, happy to take it
353 2022-02-03T19:21:19  <Murch> Okay
354 2022-02-03T19:21:21  <laanwj> #topic sweep vs subtract-fee-from-output (Murch)
355 2022-02-03T19:21:21  <core-meetingbot`> topic: sweep vs subtract-fee-from-output (Murch)
356 2022-02-03T19:21:41  <warren> summary writeup of this anywhere?
357 2022-02-03T19:21:55  <Murch> achow101 and I have been looking into implementing a Sweep RPC in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24118
358 2022-02-03T19:22:38  <Murch> The main motivation is that SFFO creates a bunch of issues for coin selection and makes testing more complex
359 2022-02-03T19:23:05  <Murch> Our impression was that the main use case for SFFO was to perform sweeps and to spend the full balance of wallet
360 2022-02-03T19:23:28  <Murch> This was at least the cited reasons in #4331 when it was proposed.
361 2022-02-03T19:23:30  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/4331 | Subtract fee from amount by cozz · Pull Request #4331 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
362 2022-02-03T19:23:44  <laanwj> it's useful for sending entire utxos to another wallet
363 2022-02-03T19:24:09  <Murch> laanwj: We intend for sweep to also allow specifying input UTXOs
364 2022-02-03T19:24:25  <Murch> It's not in the current iteration, but something we want to do in a follow-up
365 2022-02-03T19:24:38  <laanwj> i've used it pretty often and never for sweeps
366 2022-02-03T19:24:50  <jeremyrubin> very much supportive of sweep and getting rid of SFFO; generally speaking if i am trying to pay someone 10000 sats and they get 9999, that might not be a valid payment anymore. SFFO seems like a huge footgun.
367 2022-02-03T19:24:58  <laanwj> the target might not be a bitcoin core wallet (e.g. c-lightning, joinmarket, etc)
368 2022-02-03T19:25:07  <provoostenator> We could call it "sendcoins" instead of sweep, but potato potato
369 2022-02-03T19:25:17  <warren> I've used SFFO often to selectively combine only specific UTXO's where I don't want change outputs. It seems strange if that's taken away.
370 2022-02-03T19:25:21  <laanwj> it's not useful for sending to other people, agree
371 2022-02-03T19:25:23  <Murch> laanwj: Could you describe the use case that leads to an SFFO payment?
372 2022-02-03T19:25:31  <Murch> We've been trying to figure out what people use it for.
373 2022-02-03T19:25:45  <laanwj> Murch: coinjoin, sending an entire utxo without generating an extra change input
374 2022-02-03T19:25:57  <laanwj> or combining a bunch of utxos
375 2022-02-03T19:26:05  <provoostenator> Murch: sending 1 UTXO to an exchange
376 2022-02-03T19:26:20  <laanwj> it's good for privacy generally to not generate change
377 2022-02-03T19:26:25  <Murch> laanwj: So if you could specify a set of UTXOs in sweep, that seems to be covered
378 2022-02-03T19:26:32  <laanwj> especially if your utxos are already not linked
379 2022-02-03T19:26:32  <provoostenator> And to not combine coins from different source
380 2022-02-03T19:26:37  <laanwj> right
381 2022-02-03T19:26:52  <jeremyrubin> laanwj: altho not generating change is also a privacy leak itself
382 2022-02-03T19:27:06  <laanwj> jeremyrubin: it's kind of subtle
383 2022-02-03T19:27:11  <Murch> jeremyrubin: Not when you have multiple recipients. ;)
384 2022-02-03T19:27:27  <laanwj> Murch: can you sweep to another address or set of addresses?
385 2022-02-03T19:27:33  <jeremyrubin> laanwj: if you're one of the only people in the world with this pattern rn, i may be able to find you ;)
386 2022-02-03T19:28:01  <sipa> using SFFO to construct the spending of specific UTXOs without change is kind of a roundabout way of doing it... it's essentially trying to trick the coin selection into doing what you want, rather that just not doing coin selection at all
387 2022-02-03T19:28:08  <provoostenator> jeremyrubin: that's what on chain dobbelgangers are for, I'm sure you can hire those.
388 2022-02-03T19:28:09  <Murch> laanwj: Yes, the rpc takes multiple addresses of which at least one must not specify an amount and gets the remainder. If multiple are unspecified, it splits equally.
389 2022-02-03T19:28:12  <laanwj> jeremyrubin: sigh, sure, we can't really talk about use-cases here and this whole discussion is moot
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391 2022-02-03T19:29:04  <warren> Several users I recruited over the years use SFFO with multiple outputs to obscure which output is payment further making the amounts sent not round numbers. But I've personally used it to avoid creating change outputs when sending to myself or to other people were exact amounts don't matter or they're willing to eat the tx fee as part of the bargain.
392 2022-02-03T19:29:10  <jeremyrubin> laanwj: didn't mean to badger you, just a reminder that 'good for privacy' depends on the behavior being widespread generating anonymity set.
393 2022-02-03T19:29:39  <Murch> Another use case we've gotten feedback about on Twitter was that you "can make the receiver pay the fees". This seems like a roundabout way of making the receiver take a risk on how large a transaction is going to be, and would imho be better implemented by deducting a flat amount.
394 2022-02-03T19:30:12  <provoostenator> I don't have strong feelings about what it should look like under the hood.  But the current manual coin selection GUI works fine for it.
395 2022-02-03T19:30:16  <prayank> This was the thread: https://nitter.net/achow101/status/1488624425285079048
396 2022-02-03T19:30:23  <laanwj> in any case, i do like the sffo functionality, and would be sad to see it go
397 2022-02-03T19:30:34  <laanwj> roundabout way or not
398 2022-02-03T19:30:44  <provoostenator> Murch: or just setting the fee to 1 sat/byte?
399 2022-02-03T19:30:46  <Murch> Mh, okay, noted.
400 2022-02-03T19:30:55  <laanwj> i'm fine if it only works with manual coin control
401 2022-02-03T19:31:01  <_aj_> maybe don't deprecate until the "specifying input UTXOs" part is done?
402 2022-02-03T19:31:02  <warren> +1 provoostenator I like the current coin control GUI and option for SFFO I use almost always. How it works under the hood is a different matter.
403 2022-02-03T19:31:04  <Murch> provoostenator: I'm not sure I follow
404 2022-02-03T19:31:09  <laanwj> and skips coin selection
405 2022-02-03T19:31:19  <sipa> _aj_: I'd assume that'd be the case
406 2022-02-03T19:31:30  <jonatack> if SFFO includes the subtractfeefromamount option in RPCs like sendtoaddress, i find it useful when someone wants to buy btc, sets the feerate, and pays the fee
407 2022-02-03T19:31:35  <provoostenator> Murch: if the recipient wants to CPFP you can just use a low fee rate
408 2022-02-03T19:31:35  <laanwj> warren: right-i suspect it's pretty much  always used with manual coin control
409 2022-02-03T19:31:55  <jeremyrubin> laanwj: what about just being able to generate a transaction automatically and then modify it to deduct the fees manually from the outputs you want to deduct?
410 2022-02-03T19:31:57  <Murch> provoostenator: That requires sending a second transaction, though.
411 2022-02-03T19:32:05  <_aj_> #24142
412 2022-02-03T19:32:06  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24142 | Deprecate SubtractFeeFromOutputs by achow101 · Pull Request #24142 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
413 2022-02-03T19:32:29  <laanwj> jeremyrubin: i like it's user friendly and easy to use now
414 2022-02-03T19:32:30  <provoostenator> Indeed  limiting it to manual coin selection would be fine by me too
415 2022-02-03T19:32:45  <provoostenator> So basically if you select any coins, we don't auto select more.
416 2022-02-03T19:32:54  <warren> +1
417 2022-02-03T19:32:55  <achow101> apparently bull bitcoin (an exchange) uses sffo to make their users pay the fee if they want to opt out of batched transactions. limiting to manual would break that use case
418 2022-02-03T19:33:00  <laanwj> sure, i know how to make manual transactions and subtract fee etc, but having to compute things manually sucks compared to just using the interface
419 2022-02-03T19:33:06  <cfields> +1
420 2022-02-03T19:33:10  <jonatack> +1
421 2022-02-03T19:33:27  <provoostenator> achow101: Murch: oh now it makes sense
422 2022-02-03T19:33:32  <jeremyrubin> i think subtracting fees could be done in a user friendly
423 2022-02-03T19:33:45  <cfields> jeremyrubin: Indeed I've done that several times.
424 2022-02-03T19:33:50  <jeremyrubin> like 10 - x works in e.g. GIMP
425 2022-02-03T19:33:58  <jeremyrubin> (for computing pixels or whatever)
426 2022-02-03T19:33:59  <provoostenator> So they're "paying" by just lowering the amount they receive?
427 2022-02-03T19:34:25  <laanwj> it's clearly controversial to remove this functionality
428 2022-02-03T19:35:02  <achow101> indeed
429 2022-02-03T19:35:03  <laanwj> not arguing against adding a sweep RPC, but i think proposing it to replace sffo is getting ahead of things
430 2022-02-03T19:35:10  <warren> +1
431 2022-02-03T19:35:20  <Murch> Right, thanks for the feedback!
432 2022-02-03T19:35:34  <achow101> i guess we need to unbreak sffo first
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434 2022-02-03T19:36:01  <Murch> Indeed
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436 2022-02-03T19:36:24  <Murch> Alright, this was very helpful (even if not the outcome I was hoping for 0:-))
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438 2022-02-03T19:38:17  <laanwj> any other topics?
439 2022-02-03T19:39:47  <laanwj> looks like not, thanks for attending, closing the meeting
440 2022-02-03T19:39:50  <laanwj> #endmeeting
441 2022-02-03T19:39:50  <core-meetingbot`> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
442 2022-02-03T19:39:50  <core-meetingbot`> Meeting ended Thu Feb  3 19:39:50 2022 UTC.
443 2022-02-03T19:39:50  <core-meetingbot`> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2022/bitcoin-core-dev.2022-02-03-19.00.moin.txt
444 2022-02-03T19:40:23  <dongcarl> thanks for hosting laanwj!
445 2022-02-03T19:41:03  <laanwj> Murch: fwiw "sweep specified utxos to one or multiple addresses (with amounts, or that receive the rest)" covers all my usecases
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447 2022-02-03T19:43:42  <Murch> That's what we propose for sweep.
448 2022-02-03T19:46:27  <Murch> FWICT, there just remains one case that we cannot cover which is sending to a recipient using the amount owed to them as the budget.
449 2022-02-03T19:47:57  <jeremyrubin> Murch: would it help if you had a min / max for a recipient?
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451 2022-02-03T19:48:31  <achow101> I think that would make things worse
452 2022-02-03T19:48:59  <jeremyrubin> achow101: ok then we should do it ;)
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488 2022-02-03T22:17:50  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #24142: Deprecate SubtractFeeFromOutputs (master...deprecate-sffo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24142
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