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 73 2022-03-11T03:55:35  <ebaySatoshi> Where can I see the lines of code of Satoshi that were removed, possibly related to the implementation of a shopping feature in Bitcoin a bit like ebay shopping system?
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104 2022-03-11T05:18:12  <jeremyrubin> https://github.com/jeremyrubin/satoshis-version ebaySatoshi that might be close to what you want
105 2022-03-11T05:18:22  <jeremyrubin> feel free to make PRs if you see anything fun to document
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172 2022-03-11T09:26:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #24528: rpc: rename getdeploymentinfo status-next to status_next (master...getdeploymentinfo-rename-status-next-to-status_next) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24528
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178 2022-03-11T09:33:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack closed pull request #24528: rpc: rename getdeploymentinfo status-next to status_next (master...getdeploymentinfo-rename-status-next-to-status_next) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24528
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191 2022-03-11T10:00:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack reopened pull request #24528: rpc: rename getdeploymentinfo status-next to status_next (master...getdeploymentinfo-rename-status-next-to-status_next) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24528
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204 2022-03-11T10:24:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/93feabcb30e3...f661da70b932
205 2022-03-11T10:24:59  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1d4157a Hennadii Stepanov: build: Fix Boost.Process detection on macOS arm64
206 2022-03-11T10:24:59  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f661da7 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24521: build: Fix Boost.Process detection on macOS a...
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209 2022-03-11T10:25:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24521: build: Fix Boost.Process detection on macOS arm64 (master...220310-boost) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24521
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214 2022-03-11T10:27:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f1f994a Hennadii Stepanov: doc: Add `guix` prefix for changes to reproducible builds
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218 2022-03-11T10:27:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24509: doc: Add `guix` prefix for changes to reproducible builds (master...220309-prefix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24509
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237 2022-03-11T11:26:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ce1fabe5454d...bb0b39ce6fde
238 2022-03-11T11:26:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8336a06 fanquake: doc: remove Boost LDFLAGS from netBSD build docs
239 2022-03-11T11:26:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bb0b39c fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24524: doc: remove Boost LDFLAGS from netBSD build d...
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256 2022-03-11T12:32:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow opened pull request #24530: wallet: assert BnB's internally calculated waste is the same as GetSelectionWaste (master...2022-03-bnb-waste) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24530
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269 2022-03-11T13:13:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #24531: Use designated initializers (master...2203-designated_init-🛍) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24531
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287 2022-03-11T14:44:39  <fanquake> I have invited  Murch (Xekyo) to the bitcoin and bitcoin-core organisations, so we can request reviews from him.
288 2022-03-11T14:45:17  <Murch> 👀
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293 2022-03-11T14:54:28  <sipa> all of the responsibility, none of the power ;)
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298 2022-03-11T15:01:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 40e871d glozow: [miner] always assume we can create witness blocks
299 2022-03-11T15:01:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 23e8c70 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24421: miner: always assume we can build witness blo...
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302 2022-03-11T15:01:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24421: miner: always assume we can build witness blocks (master...2022-02-miner-fincludewitness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24421
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304 2022-03-11T15:03:11  <fanquake> maximum fun
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309 2022-03-11T15:11:30  <Earnest> (It's funny because there it's not responsibility if there is no power)
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311 2022-03-11T15:13:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/23e8c702bc95...a81717443f04
312 2022-03-11T15:13:55  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9d5e693 Luke Dashjr: Bugfix: doc: Correct type of change_address/changeAddress in wallet RPC he...
313 2022-03-11T15:13:55  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e827202 Luke Dashjr: doc: Use human-friendly DefaultHint for change_address/changeAddress in wa...
314 2022-03-11T15:13:55  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a817174 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24453: Bugfix: doc: Correct change_address/changeAdd...
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317 2022-03-11T15:14:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #24453: Bugfix: doc: Correct change_address/changeAddress in wallet RPC help (master...fix_rpcdoc_changeaddr_STR) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24453
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321 2022-03-11T15:21:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #24533: test: use MiniWallet for feature_maxuploadtarget.py (master...202203-test-use_MiniWallet_for_feature_maxuploadtarget) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24533
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325 2022-03-11T15:24:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] prusnak opened pull request #24534: contrib: macdeploy: make gen-sdk deterministic (master...deterministic-macos-sdk) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24534
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331 2022-03-11T15:44:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #24535: test: Fix generate calls and comments in feature_segwit (master...2203-test_fix_seg-🏌) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24535
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348 2022-03-11T16:40:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a81717443f04...c109e7d51c9c
349 2022-03-11T16:40:54  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ec7d736 glozow: [wallet] assert BnB internally calculated waste is the same as GetSelectio...
350 2022-03-11T16:40:54  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c109e7d Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24530: wallet: assert BnB's internally calculated wa...
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353 2022-03-11T16:41:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #24530: wallet: assert BnB's internally calculated waste is the same as GetSelectionWaste (master...2022-03-bnb-waste) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24530
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357 2022-03-11T16:50:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #24537: rpc: Split mempool RPCs from blockchain.cpp (master...2203-mempoolRpc-🌛) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24537
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390 2022-03-11T19:00:17  <achow101> #startmeeting
391 2022-03-11T19:00:17  <core-meetingbot`> Meeting started Fri Mar 11 19:00:17 2022 UTC.  The chair is achow101. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
392 2022-03-11T19:00:17  <core-meetingbot`> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
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394 2022-03-11T19:00:35  <michaelfolkson> hi
395 2022-03-11T19:00:37  <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Wallet Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos Murch nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik
396 2022-03-11T19:00:37  <achow101> petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK sipa vasild
397 2022-03-11T19:01:00  <achow101> There are no pre-proposed topics. Anyone have something to discuss?
398 2022-03-11T19:01:25  <michaelfolkson> A couple of mini topics
399 2022-03-11T19:01:27  <sipa> hi
400 2022-03-11T19:02:03  <michaelfolkson> With possible modifications to BIP 371 is this something that we can stew on for a while or does a decision need to be made soon?
401 2022-03-11T19:02:14  <jeremyrubin> yes
402 2022-03-11T19:02:26  <michaelfolkson> I saw rust-bitcoin (?) wanted to merge something/release something?
403 2022-03-11T19:02:33  <achow101> michaelfolkson: I think it is too late to make changes to BIP 371
404 2022-03-11T19:02:46  <sipa> I think so too.
405 2022-03-11T19:03:02  <jeremyrubin> #proposedwalletmeetingtopic what are hww / hwi supposed to do with PSBTs / Signer role functionality
406 2022-03-11T19:03:09  <michaelfolkson> Ok fair enough
407 2022-03-11T19:03:30  <sipa> I suggested the change before knowing it was deployed anywhere.
408 2022-03-11T19:03:37  <michaelfolkson> I'll close my issue then
409 2022-03-11T19:03:55  <michaelfolkson> We can go to Jeremy's topic
410 2022-03-11T19:04:00  <jeremyrubin> have you talked to salvatore sipa? it's ledger that deployed right?
411 2022-03-11T19:04:17  <sipa> he commented on the issue
412 2022-03-11T19:04:27  <achow101> Others may have as well. We don't know.
413 2022-03-11T19:04:30  <michaelfolkson> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24492
414 2022-03-11T19:04:47  <sipa> but just the fact that anyone already implemented it, thinking is was complete, makes the bar to change it a lot higher
415 2022-03-11T19:04:53  <sipa> they may not be the only one
416 2022-03-11T19:05:24  <jeremyrubin> michaelfolkson: you should include this in your BIP process tweaks, we should add some kind of 'dontimplementyet' type tag
417 2022-03-11T19:05:48  <sipa> I don't think that helps. This BIP wouldn't have had such a tag.
418 2022-03-11T19:06:04  <sipa> I was just too late with my feedback; so be it.
419 2022-03-11T19:06:11  <achow101> Ideally the "don't implement yet" stage is when it's on the mailng list prior to being PR'd to bips
420 2022-03-11T19:06:37  <achow101> and that people would comment on BIPs when they are proposed to the mailing list before the PR is opened
421 2022-03-11T19:06:48  <jeremyrubin> > ideally
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423 2022-03-11T19:08:01  <michaelfolkson> The BIP is still draft. Presumably now it is implemented in the wild that should just move to final
424 2022-03-11T19:08:09  <jeremyrubin> draft is kinda meaningless
425 2022-03-11T19:08:22  <achow101> indeed...
426 2022-03-11T19:08:24  <sipa> I think tis discussion does not belong here
427 2022-03-11T19:08:27  <sipa> *this
428 2022-03-11T19:08:28  <jeremyrubin> sipa: +1
429 2022-03-11T19:08:31  <michaelfolkson> Fair enough
430 2022-03-11T19:08:34  <achow101> #topic  what are hww / hwi supposed to do with PSBTs / Signer role functionality (jeremyrubin)
431 2022-03-11T19:08:34  <core-meetingbot`> topic: what are hww / hwi supposed to do with PSBTs / Signer role functionality (jeremyrubin)
432 2022-03-11T19:08:46  <jeremyrubin> so there has been a little discussion in rust-miniscript on this
433 2022-03-11T19:08:58  <jeremyrubin> see https://github.com/rust-bitcoin/rust-miniscript/pull/305
434 2022-03-11T19:09:29  <jeremyrubin> basically, it's not really clear (at least *to me*) what is supposed to happen with the satisfaction of miniscript stuff w.r.t. HWWs
435 2022-03-11T19:09:57  <jeremyrubin> i.e., BIP-174 defines things that a signer must verify (like the parent txns of all outputs being spent AFAIU?)
436 2022-03-11T19:10:15  <jeremyrubin> but it's not really clear to me either if the signer is in HWW how that data is getting shuttled over to the singing 'enclave'
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438 2022-03-11T19:11:02  <jeremyrubin> rust-miniscript has this thing called a Satisfier which is an API to "look up" a key out of the PSBT itself, which in theory could be used to "look up" a signature out of HWW (if it sent it all the right information?)
439 2022-03-11T19:11:02  <achow101> jeremyrubin: the psbt is supposed to contain all of the things the hww needs in order to sign
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441 2022-03-11T19:11:44  <sipa> this seems more like rust-miniscript API question than a question about wallets (and even less about bitcoin core's wallet)
442 2022-03-11T19:12:20  <jeremyrubin> well in 174 it says "Before signing a non-witness input, the Signer must verify that the TXID of the non-witness UTXO matches the TXID specified in the unsigned transaction."
443 2022-03-11T19:13:11  <sipa> is that not clear?
444 2022-03-11T19:13:13  <jeremyrubin> but it's not really clear to me in the PSBT which data we've defined to allow that verification
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446 2022-03-11T19:13:45  <jeremyrubin> how do we verify that? don't we need the entire parent TX to check that Outpoint(Txid(tx), i) == input.outpoint
447 2022-03-11T19:14:00  <achow101> jeremyrubin: that's provided in the psbt
448 2022-03-11T19:14:04  <achow101> as non_witness_utxo
449 2022-03-11T19:14:19  <sipa> the entire parent tx is "the non-witness UTXO", which is a field in the PSBT
450 2022-03-11T19:15:37  <jeremyrubin> ahh ok i see
451 2022-03-11T19:16:47  <achow101> anything else to discuss?
452 2022-03-11T19:17:23  <michaelfolkson> 6 hour turnaround on #24530 from opening to merging? :)
453 2022-03-11T19:17:24  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24530 | wallet: assert BnBs internally calculated waste is the same as GetSelectionWaste by glozow · Pull Request #24530 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
454 2022-03-11T19:17:33  <michaelfolkson> Very small change admittedly
455 2022-03-11T19:17:57  <michaelfolkson> But you seem like a quick merger achow101 :)
456 2022-03-11T19:18:28  <achow101> #endmeeting
457 2022-03-11T19:18:28  <core-meetingbot`> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
458 2022-03-11T19:18:28  <core-meetingbot`> Meeting ended Fri Mar 11 19:18:28 2022 UTC.
459 2022-03-11T19:18:28  <core-meetingbot`> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2022/bitcoin-core-dev.2022-03-11-19.00.moin.txt
460 2022-03-11T19:18:32  <jeremyrubin> ah
461 2022-03-11T19:18:34  <jeremyrubin> drats
462 2022-03-11T19:18:38  <jeremyrubin> i was still typing a q
463 2022-03-11T19:18:41  <achow101> oops
464 2022-03-11T19:18:42  <jeremyrubin> can ask out of band
465 2022-03-11T19:19:07  <jeremyrubin> Well I guess the only other API oriented Q i have is that it seems like a lot of wallets don't support PSBT directly, and instead have some custom format and return signatures rather than updated PSBTs
466 2022-03-11T19:19:32  <achow101> jeremyrubin: that's partially because most hwws predate PSBT
467 2022-03-11T19:19:36  <jeremyrubin> fair
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469 2022-03-11T19:19:43  <jeremyrubin> but e.g. jade seems to be this way
470 2022-03-11T19:20:00  <achow101> some are starting to add psbt though, e.g. ledger
471 2022-03-11T19:20:20  <jeremyrubin> yep
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473 2022-03-11T19:20:51  <jeremyrubin> I guess the general question is API wise are we expecting PSBT supporting wallets to return a vector of signatures/witness data, or to directly modify and send back the PSBT
474 2022-03-11T19:20:54  <sipa> the bitcoin core signing logic also works like that
475 2022-03-11T19:21:18  <jeremyrubin> "that" =?
476 2022-03-11T19:21:30  <achow101> jeremyrubin: if they take a PSBT, then return a psbt with sigs
477 2022-03-11T19:21:34  <achow101> if they don't take a psbt, then whatever
478 2022-03-11T19:21:37  <jeremyrubin> gotcha.
479 2022-03-11T19:21:51  <achow101> for example, walletprocesspsbt takes a psbt, and returns a psbt with sigs
480 2022-03-11T19:21:54  <jeremyrubin> yes
481 2022-03-11T19:22:00  <sipa> I mean... I expect PSBTs to work with PSBTs, and they'll quite possibly be written with code that internally uses a satisfier-like interface to construct signatures and whatnot.
482 2022-03-11T19:22:26  <sipa> So my answer would be both, depending on what layer of the software you're looking at.
483 2022-03-11T19:23:04  <achow101> I guess ledger is an exception because they can take a psbt but return sigs
484 2022-03-11T19:23:14  <achow101> but that's a limitation of the hardware (not enough memory to store psbts)
485 2022-03-11T19:23:20  <jeremyrubin> well currently the satisfier iface is doing something where we look at the psbt and finalize miniscripts
486 2022-03-11T19:23:33  <jeremyrubin> v.s. look at psbt and create signatures
487 2022-03-11T19:23:52  <achow101> I don't know anything about rust-miniscript and related
488 2022-03-11T19:23:58  <jeremyrubin> i'm curious if it makes sense for signers to understand miniscript inherently
489 2022-03-11T19:23:59  <sipa> that = Bitcoin Core's PSBT RPC is internally implemented with calls to logic that "signs"
490 2022-03-11T19:24:15  <sipa> i mean... again API layer
491 2022-03-11T19:24:32  <sipa> a PSBT signer can sign whatever it understands/likes
492 2022-03-11T19:24:47  <jeremyrubin> well i guess my wondering is that if they don't have miniscript logic, then they can't know if a key they have is requested
493 2022-03-11T19:25:00  <sipa> if that includes miniscript, it can sign PSBTs that involve miniscript
494 2022-03-11T19:25:15  <sipa> @jeremyrubin That's not true, actually - you can sign without understanding
495 2022-03-11T19:25:54  <jeremyrubin> sure, it's valid to say anything can be in a different layer, i'm just trying to figure out really where the responsibility for these things should be. I could see a format where miniscript is not expected to be understood, but we'd need a "key extractor" that tells the signer which keys are in which input
496 2022-03-11T19:26:06  <jeremyrubin> and that would be "trusted"
497 2022-03-11T19:26:11  <sipa> You can infer from PSBT fields (if it contains the necessary values added by an Updater), with which keys a signature is expected with
498 2022-03-11T19:26:34  <jeremyrubin> PSBT_IN_TAP_BIP32_DERIVATION ?
499 2022-03-11T19:26:43  <jeremyrubin> it's not clear that those are hints v.s. required
500 2022-03-11T19:26:59  <jeremyrubin> e.g., if a key is within a gaplimit or something for the hww, i wouldn't need the derivation hint
501 2022-03-11T19:27:05  <sipa> you don't need to trust it - if you agree with the transaction (whatever that means for you), you can sign with it - at worst, your signature is just invalid if it happens a signature with that key doesn't participate in that script
502 2022-03-11T19:27:33  <sipa> sure?
503 2022-03-11T19:27:45  <sipa> psbt is just a container format that conveys all information a signer potentially needs
504 2022-03-11T19:27:57  <jeremyrubin> but that requires parsing miniscript to figure that out
505 2022-03-11T19:28:05  <sipa> they may not need/use all of it, if they don't care about it
506 2022-03-11T19:28:14  <jeremyrubin> "just a container" --> also a spec for roles to process it
507 2022-03-11T19:28:15  <sipa> for the updater, yes
508 2022-03-11T19:28:17  <sipa> for the signer, no
509 2022-03-11T19:28:45  <jeremyrubin> s/the/a/g
510 2022-03-11T19:28:56  <sipa> *updater
511 2022-03-11T19:29:02  <sipa> one of the participants in the process must be an updated that understands the thing being signed, and a finalizer that does
512 2022-03-11T19:29:44  <sipa> which means they can be relatively dumb
513 2022-03-11T19:29:44  <sipa> but the signer can just use the information provided by the updater
514 2022-03-11T19:30:52  * jeremyrubin (how apoas would work with this) OP_TOALTSTACK
515 2022-03-11T19:31:15  <sipa> i mean... it all depends on what you want to sign
516 2022-03-11T19:31:32  <sipa> signers can be restricted to only participating in scripts they understand/care about
517 2022-03-11T19:31:44  <jeremyrubin> yes
518 2022-03-11T19:31:57  <jeremyrubin> and if we want that, they would need to pull in miniscript?
519 2022-03-11T19:32:21  <sipa> there isn't a spec for "all psbt compliant software must support X" - it's just a spec for communicating how the things they need for that
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521 2022-03-11T19:32:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sstone opened pull request #24539: Add a "tx output spender" index (master...add-txospender-index) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24539
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523 2022-03-11T19:33:31  <sipa> signers don't need to include miniscript code; they may still want to
524 2022-03-11T19:33:40  <sipa> and even with miniscript support in the updater/finalizer, you're still restricted to miniscript-compatible scripts
525 2022-03-11T19:33:57  <sipa> people may certainly care about signing for other non-trivial things too
526 2022-03-11T19:34:03  <sipa> e.g. lightning htlcs?
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528 2022-03-11T19:35:25  <jeremyrubin> so i guess at it's core for an API what you really want is something where you have a device driver that is PSBT in - PSBT out
529 2022-03-11T19:35:54  <jeremyrubin> and then you combine the out with the in on the way back (or expect the signer is honest?)
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531 2022-03-11T19:36:36  <jeremyrubin> and in implementing that interface, you're free to choose what amount of stuff happens between in and out
532 2022-03-11T19:37:24  <sipa> yes, at the high level the protocol is roles that all operate solely on PSBTs
533 2022-03-11T19:37:59  <jeremyrubin> tyvm
534 2022-03-11T19:38:06  <sipa> implementations internally will of course do that in very different ways
535 2022-03-11T19:38:16  <jeremyrubin> i think this gives me enough of a direction to make an interface
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