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52022-08-25T00:40:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Rspigler opened pull request #25927: docs: create sybil.md (master...sybil) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25927
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432022-08-25T06:32:04 <jonatack> sipsorcery, i think i'm seeing the same win64 CI issues with #25923, for example https://cirrus-ci.com/task/5300628040712192
442022-08-25T06:32:05 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25923 | p2p, bugfix: always provide CNodeStateStats, ensure v23 getpeerinfo API for v24 by jonatack · Pull Request #25923 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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472022-08-25T07:00:07 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #25928: Revert "ci: Integrate ccache into MSVC build" (master...220825.msvc-ci) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25928
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492022-08-25T07:09:52 <hebasto> MacroFake: I also going to try to stick to the previous version of ccache
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532022-08-25T07:23:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #25929: ci: Force `ccache` package version for MSVC build (master...220825-msvc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25929
542022-08-25T07:24:24 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #25928: Revert "ci: Integrate ccache into MSVC build" (master...220825.msvc-ci) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25928
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602022-08-25T07:50:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1420547ec30a...d36bec9b3bf5
612022-08-25T07:50:05 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7bc33a8 Ryan Ofsky: refactor: Move ChainstateManager options into m_options struct
622022-08-25T07:50:05 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d36bec9 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25905: refactor: Move ChainstateManager options into...
632022-08-25T07:50:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25905: refactor: Move ChainstateManager options into m_options struct (master...pr/csmopt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25905
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992022-08-25T11:08:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d36bec9b3bf5...6057e7e2b903
1002022-08-25T11:08:46 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 905f614 Hennadii Stepanov: ci: Force `ccache` package version for MSVC build
1012022-08-25T11:08:47 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cda6265 Hennadii Stepanov: ci: Increase `windows_container` resources
1022022-08-25T11:08:47 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6057e7e MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25929: ci: Force `ccache` package version for MSVC b...
1032022-08-25T11:08:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25929: ci: Force `ccache` package version for MSVC build (master...220825-msvc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25929
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1102022-08-25T11:26:15 <bitcoin-git> [gui] jadijadi opened pull request #655: qt - Persist "mask values" in gui (master...jadi-issue652-persist-mask) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/655
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1162022-08-25T11:54:44 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Vinodwickrama opened pull request #25930: Update the copyright year range (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25930
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1202022-08-25T12:18:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #25930: Update the copyright year range (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25930
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1652022-08-25T15:30:13 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6057e7e2b903...ba2edcae7321
1662022-08-25T15:30:13 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6242314 Sebastian Falbesoner: doc: add `{import,list}descriptors` to list of descriptor RPCs
1672022-08-25T15:30:13 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ba2edca Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25925: doc: add `{import,list}descriptors` to list o...
1682022-08-25T15:30:16 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #25925: doc: add `{import,list}descriptors` to list of descriptor RPCs (master...202208-doc-add_new_descriptor_calls_to_docs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25925
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2062022-08-25T17:50:41 <Zaidan> I'm trying to get my timezones right, is the meeting in 10 mins?
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2082022-08-25T17:51:35 <sipa> No, in 70 minutes.
2092022-08-25T17:51:47 <Zaidan> ah ty
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2162022-08-25T18:16:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #25931: rpc: sort listdescriptors result (master...2022/08/sort-listdescriptors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25931
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2272022-08-25T18:48:18 <Zaidan> I'm looking for configuration options to add a suffix to the pid name so I can run multiple nodes from different branches and know which one is which, any suggestions?
2282022-08-25T18:56:31 <jarthur> I don't know of anything out of the box, but there are some runtime tricks. Assuming you give your branch instances different datadirs, you'll get a separate bitcoind.pid in each.
2292022-08-25T18:57:23 <sipa> You can't run two instances out of the same datadir anyway, so I don't think it's useful (and likely problematic) to make them use distinct pidfiles.
2302022-08-25T18:57:40 <sipa> Though you can provide the -pidfile=FILE command line argument if you really want to.
2312022-08-25T18:58:42 <laanwj> i doubt it's useful but it's not going to give problems because the mechanism to lock datadir is independent from the pid file
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2342022-08-25T19:00:14 <laanwj> #startmeeting
2352022-08-25T19:00:14 <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 25 19:00:13 2022 UTC. The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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2382022-08-25T19:00:46 <provoostenator> hi
2392022-08-25T19:00:49 <hebasto> hi
2402022-08-25T19:00:54 <dongcarl> hi
2412022-08-25T19:01:00 <kouloumos> hi
2422022-08-25T19:01:05 <lightlike> hi
2432022-08-25T19:01:10 <theStack> hi
2442022-08-25T19:01:23 <laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard b10c BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo
2452022-08-25T19:01:25 <laanwj> moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
2462022-08-25T19:01:29 <Zaidan> hi, observing this for the first time
2472022-08-25T19:01:33 <sipa> hi
2482022-08-25T19:01:35 <achow101> hi
2492022-08-25T19:01:49 <laanwj> one topic has been proposed: full-rbf maximalism vs gentle phase-out of opt-in RBF (ariard)
2502022-08-25T19:01:51 <furszy> hi
2512022-08-25T19:02:01 <vasild> hi (semiasleep)
2522022-08-25T19:02:02 <laanwj> i also think the 24.0 feature freeze is to be discussed
2532022-08-25T19:02:09 <kanzure> hi
2542022-08-25T19:02:40 <laanwj> any last minute topics?
2552022-08-25T19:03:38 <laanwj> #topic 24.0 feature freeze / milestone
2562022-08-25T19:03:38 <core-meetingbot> topic: 24.0 feature freeze / milestone
2572022-08-25T19:04:13 <laanwj> the feature freeze was moved forward by 7 days but that date (2022-08-22) has passed as well
2582022-08-25T19:04:20 <laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24987
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2602022-08-25T19:04:35 <laanwj> are we ready to feature freeze now?
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2622022-08-25T19:05:00 <laanwj> 24.0 milestone: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/milestone/54
2632022-08-25T19:05:13 <sipa> I'm just going over #25717 again, it's gotten a lot of review nits lately, but very close I think.
2642022-08-25T19:05:50 <luke-jr> ..
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2662022-08-25T19:06:05 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25717 | p2p: Implement anti-DoS headers sync by sdaftuar · Pull Request #25717 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2672022-08-25T19:06:16 <provoostenator> It's pretty ambitious PR so late in the release cycle.
2682022-08-25T19:06:23 <achow101> #19602 has been getting a lot of review now and I'm not sure that it will make it. I've found a somewhat
2692022-08-25T19:06:23 <provoostenator> (as much as I'm a fan of it)
2702022-08-25T19:06:25 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19602 | wallet: Migrate legacy wallets to descriptor wallets by achow101 · Pull Request #19602 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2712022-08-25T19:06:30 <achow101> somewhat major bug today
2722022-08-25T19:06:34 <lightlike> #25355 has several ACKs too
2732022-08-25T19:06:36 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25355 | I2P: add support for transient addresses for outbound connections by vasild · Pull Request #25355 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2742022-08-25T19:06:37 <vasild> provoostenator: +1
2752022-08-25T19:07:05 <provoostenator> achow101: that RPC is marked experimental anyway, so it might be good to get it in to see if any wallets in the wild don't work with it.
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2782022-08-25T19:07:49 <laanwj> ok, so it seems the answer is 'feature freeze needs to be postponed further', as i've heard mention of three PRs now
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2802022-08-25T19:09:31 <provoostenator> Seems so, unless there's any reason we want to ship 24.0 real soon?
2812022-08-25T19:09:41 <laanwj> not that i know of
2822022-08-25T19:10:16 <laanwj> it is a slightly uncommon way of working, we've never really delayed the feature freeze for non critical features, it was 'what makes it in makes it in'
2832022-08-25T19:10:55 <luke-jr> maybe make 1 week from today a hard deadline for enforcing that then?
2842022-08-25T19:10:56 <vasild> I am ok to drop #25355 from 24 if people think it is rushed or needs more time/review.
2852022-08-25T19:10:58 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25355 | I2P: add support for transient addresses for outbound connections by vasild · Pull Request #25355 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2862022-08-25T19:11:01 <laanwj> those PRs have been close to merge for quite a time now and there has to be a cut-off point, bu there's no reason why it'd need to be today
2872022-08-25T19:11:21 <glozow> +1 25717 is my priority rn
2882022-08-25T19:11:49 <laanwj> luke-jr: sgtm, if others agree
2892022-08-25T19:12:54 <vasild> the i2p one is a "nice to have", not "must have"
2902022-08-25T19:13:18 <luke-jr> arguably features are always "nice to have" - there's always 25.x :P
2912022-08-25T19:13:27 <vasild> :P
2922022-08-25T19:13:30 <laanwj> fwiw i'll be traveling next week so i'll not be here
2932022-08-25T19:13:39 <luke-jr> o
2942022-08-25T19:13:49 <laanwj> not that it matters someone else can easily pick up the meeting
2952022-08-25T19:15:20 <dongcarl> last minute topic: libbitcoinkernel update
2962022-08-25T19:16:10 <laanwj> dongcarl: noted
2972022-08-25T19:16:35 <laanwj> #topic full-rbf maximalism vs gentle phase-out of opt-in RBF (ariard)
2982022-08-25T19:16:36 <core-meetingbot> topic: full-rbf maximalism vs gentle phase-out of opt-in RBF (ariard)
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3002022-08-25T19:18:00 <lightlike> when suggesting that topic, ariard added he wasn't sure if he could make it to the meeting.
3012022-08-25T19:18:58 <laanwj> ok, that seems the case
3022022-08-25T19:19:49 <laanwj> let's postpone it for another meeting then?
3032022-08-25T19:20:12 <vasild> is there a problem with the current state of rbf?
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3052022-08-25T19:21:30 <luke-jr> devs need to stop trying to dictate policies for users. if some users want "full RBF", they should be able to have it. Likewise, opt-in RBF.
3062022-08-25T19:21:32 <glozow> this is a signaling question, though the answer to your question is yes, thereâs room for improvement
3072022-08-25T19:22:34 <lightlike> Can't speak for him, but I think he probably wanted to discuss different possibilities to transition to full-rbf:
3082022-08-25T19:22:36 <lightlike> Support for preferential peering (#25600) vs changing the default vs doing nothing (having it as an option that is off per default)
3092022-08-25T19:22:39 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25600 | p2p: Advertise `NODE_REPLACE_BY_FEE` and connect to 1 outbound full-rbf peer if `mempoolfullrbf` sets by ariard · Pull Request #25600 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3102022-08-25T19:23:52 <glozow> sure, i run a full rbf node, ð¤·ð»ââï¸ but merging full rbf default or preferential peering is a different question. agree to postpone this topic for when ariard is here.
3112022-08-25T19:24:28 <laanwj> ok, let's move to dongcarl's topic then
3122022-08-25T19:24:46 <laanwj> #topic libbitcoinkernel update (dongcarl)
3132022-08-25T19:24:47 <core-meetingbot> topic: libbitcoinkernel update (dongcarl)
3142022-08-25T19:24:57 <dongcarl> Hi all, Iâll be leaving Chaincode Labs next week and will no longer be contributing full time to Bitcoin Core. I wonât be entirely gone, just contributing within the restriction of my leftover bandwidth (IIRC fjahr has been doing this).
3152022-08-25T19:25:06 <dongcarl> Iâve tapped TheCharlatan as the point person for driving forward libbitcoinkernel (although I see all contributors, reviewers, and PR authors whose PRs we depend on as part of the libbitcoinkernel effort).
3162022-08-25T19:25:15 <dongcarl> I strongly believe that he has the right skillset and drive for completing whatâs left of phase 1 of libbitcoinkernel and making phase 2 happen. Iâm currently ramping him up, and he is set to be able to devote full-time attention starting November and I will assist in helping him find full-time sponsors (there are parties who have indicated
3172022-08-25T19:25:15 <dongcarl> interest already).
3182022-08-25T19:25:22 <dongcarl> TheCharlatan: Perhaps youâd like to introduce yourself, what youâve done in the past, what your interest is in libbitcoinkernel?
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3202022-08-25T19:26:08 <vasild> :(
3212022-08-25T19:26:28 <Zaidan> well thank you for your contributions carl
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3242022-08-25T19:26:47 <glozow> ð
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3262022-08-25T19:27:39 <dongcarl> I will still be an alive human though! (at least I expect to be)
3272022-08-25T19:28:06 * dongcarl nudges TheCharlatan
3282022-08-25T19:28:14 <laanwj> phew!
3292022-08-25T19:28:33 <TheCharlatan> carl's are big shoes to fill, but he's been super helpful in getting men up to speed so far
3302022-08-25T19:28:40 <sipa> I was hoping for a bit more than "alive".
3312022-08-25T19:28:46 <luke-jr> lol
3322022-08-25T19:29:12 <luke-jr> libbitcoinkernel aside, is anyone going to be actively maintaining the guix stuff? :x
3332022-08-25T19:29:29 <fanquake> yes?
3342022-08-25T19:29:47 <dongcarl> luke-jr: Oh I think fanquake and hebasto have been doing more than an excellent job
3352022-08-25T19:30:06 <luke-jr> ok, sorry, I don't mean to downplay their work, I don't pay close attention to the "who" on PRs
3362022-08-25T19:30:10 <laanwj> but yes it was a bit of a shock to me as well to hear you're moving to something else, I fully understand of course. Hopefully TheCharlatan can take it over the finish line.
3372022-08-25T19:30:41 <dongcarl> TheCharlatan: Perhaps you can speak a bit about your past work?
3382022-08-25T19:30:49 <sipa> Will he turn into TheCarlatan?
3392022-08-25T19:30:54 <dongcarl> OH NO
3402022-08-25T19:31:12 <TheCharlatan> I've been lurking here since a long time, and am keen to keep carl's work alive. Im also a guix user, so over time I hope to keep at it as well. I'll slowly ramp up my contributions over the next months.
3412022-08-25T19:31:12 <dongcarl> You have uncovered my ploy
3422022-08-25T19:32:33 <dongcarl> The current plan is to have TheCharlatan do chainparams<->ArgsManager circular dependency decoupling as the first PR, we'll see as we go along!
3432022-08-25T19:32:59 <dongcarl> Thanks for listening all :-)
3442022-08-25T19:33:39 <laanwj> thanks for the update
3452022-08-25T19:34:28 <laanwj> any other topics for today?
3462022-08-25T19:35:48 <laanwj> #endmeeting
3472022-08-25T19:35:48 <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
3482022-08-25T19:35:48 <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Aug 25 19:35:48 2022 UTC.
3492022-08-25T19:35:48 <core-meetingbot> Minutes: https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2022/bitcoin-core-dev.2022-08-25-19.00.moin.txt
3502022-08-25T19:36:33 <Zaidan> Cool stuff, so these meetings seem like a coordination ground for releases and updates on large endeavors like the kernel project
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3542022-08-25T19:50:10 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] yancyribbens opened pull request #25932: refactor: Simplify backtrack logic (master...my-origin/bnb-refactor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25932
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3572022-08-25T19:53:58 <cfields> I intend to step up and help TheCharlatan out with the libkernel work/review as well. I've fallen off a bit lately (again) but am trying to find my way back (again) :)
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3642022-08-25T20:13:42 <jnewbery> dongcarl: thanks for all of your contributions and good luck in your next adventure :)
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3672022-08-25T20:17:27 <cfields> +1
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3712022-08-25T20:46:41 <dongcarl> Thanks jnewbery! :-)
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3742022-08-25T20:51:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] furszy opened pull request #25933: wallet: AvailableCoins, simplify output script type acquisition (master...2022_wallet_availablecoins_type_cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25933
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3772022-08-25T21:12:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ba2edcae7321...bbbc26dcfc87
3782022-08-25T21:12:44 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e90a445 Sebastian Falbesoner: scripted-diff: rpc: fix rescan RPC name (s/rescanwallet/rescanblockchain/)
3792022-08-25T21:12:45 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bbbc26d Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25924: scripted-diff: rpc: fix rescan RPC name (s/re...
3802022-08-25T21:12:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #25924: scripted-diff: rpc: fix rescan RPC name (s/rescanwallet/rescanblockchain/) (master...202208-rename_rescanwallet_to_rescanblockchain) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25924
3812022-08-25T21:17:07 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] brunoerg opened pull request #25934: wallet, rpc: add `label` to `listsinceblock` (master...2022-08-add-label-listsinceblock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25934
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3852022-08-25T21:31:00 <bytes1440000> luke-jr: agree with you devs need to stop trying to dictate policies for users. if some users want "full RBF", they should be able to have it. Likewise, opt-in RBF.
3862022-08-25T21:31:16 <bytes1440000> i have a default nack for such changes
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4032022-08-25T22:07:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Rspigler closed pull request #25927: docs: create sybil.md (master...sybil) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25927
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