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152022-10-05T01:42:03 <ariard> so i've been reached out offline by a zero-conf application operator finally waking up about the new `mempoolfullrbf` setting in upcoming release, raising awareness about the number and ranges of zero-conf services affected, i invited to share their argumentation publicly on the ML asap and recalled that release candidates were already tagged
162022-10-05T01:42:35 <ariard> good news, we have people actually caring about release candidates
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232022-10-05T01:54:47 <luke-jr> ariard: you mean unconfirmed?
242022-10-05T01:55:05 <luke-jr> zero-conf = Lightning
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262022-10-05T01:55:46 <luke-jr> ariard: in any case, there's no significant change in 24.x
272022-10-05T01:56:01 <luke-jr> it's just an option that's been available in Knots (and even by default) for years
282022-10-05T01:56:15 <luke-jr> not even default in Core
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392022-10-05T03:39:56 <bytes1440000> fanquake: https://twitter.com/1440000bytes/status/1577490578346213376
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672022-10-05T08:08:09 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow pushed 3 commits to 24.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4be489d4d4a1...2e5706d6011c
682022-10-05T08:08:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/24.x 21f96f4 Aurèle Oulès: wallet: Use correct effective value when checking target
692022-10-05T08:08:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/24.x 2730ed2 Aurèle Oulès: test: Check external coin effective value is used in CoinSelection
702022-10-05T08:08:10 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/24.x 2e5706d glozow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26242: [24.x] wallet: Use correct effective value wh...
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722022-10-05T08:09:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #26254: iwyu: Add zmq source files (master...221005-zmq) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26254
732022-10-05T08:14:52 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow merged pull request #26242: [24.x] wallet: Use correct effective value when checking target (24.x...26203-backport) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26242
742022-10-05T08:31:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a23f8c8978dc...d3cdd37d920c
752022-10-05T08:31:17 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eb15569 fanquake: fuzz: add util/mempool/h.cpp
762022-10-05T08:31:18 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8a6b6df fanquake: fuzz: pass max fee into ConsumeTxMemPoolEntry
772022-10-05T08:31:18 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d3cdd37 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26250: fuzz: add mempool_utils.cpp
782022-10-05T08:31:20 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26250: fuzz: add mempool_utils.cpp (master...fuzz_add_mempool_utils_h) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26250
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832022-10-05T08:55:22 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #26256: ci: Remove clang-format from lint task (master...2210-ci-less-lint-ð) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26256
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902022-10-05T09:55:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d3cdd37d920c...b2e6d37b51f9
912022-10-05T09:55:29 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa04376 MacroFake: Remove clang-format from lint task
922022-10-05T09:55:29 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b2e6d37 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26256: ci: Remove clang-format from lint task
932022-10-05T09:55:31 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26256: ci: Remove clang-format from lint task (master...2210-ci-less-lint-ð) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26256
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952022-10-05T10:07:36 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #22624: build: Treat obj/build.h as an intermediate file (master...210804-obj) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22624
962022-10-05T10:08:55 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #18980: build: Decouple clientversion.cpp from the git repo (master...0515-decouple) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18980
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1022022-10-05T11:37:23 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #26257: script, test: python linter fixups and updates (master...2022-10-python-linter-fixups-and-updates) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26257
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1342022-10-05T14:02:39 <bitcoin-git> [gui] jonatack opened pull request #673: Use fallback value for Version and User Agent during peer connection (master...2022-09-display-fallback-for-gui-peers-version-and-user-agent) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/673
1352022-10-05T14:03:24 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #26226: Bump minimum python version to 3.7 (master...2210-py37-ð) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26226
1362022-10-05T14:06:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #26258: refactor: Remove unused CDataStream::rdbuf method (master...2210-no-rdbuf-ð¥) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26258
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1412022-10-05T14:19:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26252: refactor: Make 64-bit shift explicit (master...221004-shift) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26252
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1452022-10-05T14:33:22 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b2e6d37b51f9...5e82b9ba96b6
1462022-10-05T14:33:23 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5c5b85d Hennadii Stepanov: refactor: Make 64-bit shift explicit
1472022-10-05T14:33:23 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5e82b9b MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26252: refactor: Make 64-bit shift explicit
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1502022-10-05T14:43:44 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #26259: test: Test year 2106 block timestamps (master...2210-test-2106-ð) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26259
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1752022-10-05T15:58:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] aureleoules opened pull request #26260: rpc: Set best header after reconsiderblock (master...2022-10-26245-fix-reconsiderblock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26260
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1862022-10-05T16:35:13 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] brunoerg opened pull request #26261: p2p: return `std::vectorCNetAddr` in `LookupIntern` (master...2022-10-cleanup-netbase) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26261
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1952022-10-05T17:47:50 <ariard> luke-jr: yep, applications processing zero-conf transactions as valid payments. well apparently you have folks with a different qualification than what is a significant change for them and with another appreciation of the option being already available in Knots
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2052022-10-05T18:56:00 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] amanciojsilvajr opened pull request #26263: Create README.md Z19 (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26263
2062022-10-05T19:02:40 <luke-jr> ariard: zero-conf/Lightning is unaffected
2072022-10-05T19:03:50 <luke-jr> ariard: an _option_ has been added to ignore the RBF opt-out bit; that option has always been available to users in the form of switching to Knots.
2082022-10-05T19:04:57 <sipa> luke-jr: That's all true, but irrelevant I think without significant uptake. Rightfully or not, people may be concerned about the fact that it's an option in Bitcoin Core, as it can be interpreted as a move towards getting that as a common policy on the network/
2092022-10-05T19:05:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #26263: Create README.md Z19 (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26263
2102022-10-05T19:05:45 <sipa> I think it was inevitable that such a response comes, and I don't think it should affect much of what we're doing.
2112022-10-05T19:06:53 <luke-jr> if they don't like it, they can turn it off or fork Core to remove it
2122022-10-05T19:07:16 <luke-jr> it's not like non-RBF was ever an effective method of security
2132022-10-05T19:07:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #26265: POLICY: Relax MIN_STANDARD_TX_NONWITNESS_SIZE to 65 non-witness bytes (master...relax_too_small_tx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26265
2142022-10-05T19:07:50 <sipa> Again, I agree, but that's relevant relevant to people complaining about the risk of it being widely adopted on the network.
2152022-10-05T19:10:18 <sipa> To be clear, I think this concern is misguided - all I'm saying is that saying "you and/or everyone always have had and have the ability to run other policy" isn't a counterargument to it.
2162022-10-05T19:12:47 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] amanciojsilvajr opened pull request #26266: Create README.md . (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26266
2172022-10-05T19:13:21 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] amanciojsilvajr closed pull request #26266: Create README.md . (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26266
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2202022-10-05T20:11:24 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] amanciojsilvajr reopened pull request #26266: Create README.md . (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26266
2212022-10-05T20:11:53 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] amanciojsilvajr closed pull request #26266: Create README.md . (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26266
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2412022-10-05T22:32:21 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] amanciojsilvajr opened pull request #26268: Create README.md test (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26268
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2432022-10-05T22:47:54 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #26268: Create README.md test (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26268
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2492022-10-05T23:30:29 <luke-jr> sipa: I think it is. Especially since you could always do a fraudulent replacement at all points in time.
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2532022-10-05T23:36:22 <luke-jr> so it'
2542022-10-05T23:36:30 <luke-jr> so it's not just in theory, but also in practice
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