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302022-10-25T02:07:39 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1c5c951713a9...bfce05cc3411
312022-10-25T02:07:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 393be86 Hennadii Stepanov: build, msvc: Drop no longer required macro definitions for leveldb
322022-10-25T02:07:40 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bfce05c fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26372: build, msvc: Drop no longer required macro de...
332022-10-25T02:07:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26372: build, msvc: Drop no longer required macro definitions for leveldb (master...221023-msvc-cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26372
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1082022-10-25T10:41:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dergoegge opened pull request #26387: doc: Fixup TryLowWorkHeadersSync comment (#26355 follow-up) (master...2022-10-tlwhs-doc-fixup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26387
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1142022-10-25T10:50:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #26388: ci: Use macos-ventura-xcode:14.1 image for "macOS native" task (master...221025-ventura) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26388
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1202022-10-25T11:27:17 <glozow> My understanding of the full RBF discussion so far https://github.com/glozow/bitcoin-notes/blob/full-rbf/full-rbf.md
1212022-10-25T11:27:18 <glozow> If somebody could help get in touch with miners it would be really nice to hear what their plans are and/or what a reasonable timeline could be. It's the biggest missing piece of information for me, but I don't think we can speculate whether/when they'll do something because it's rational or because a Bitcoin Core option makes it easy.
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1242022-10-25T11:34:18 <real_or_random> I got a spam email from a project called "Committable"... I assume I'm not the only one because it seems they scraped email addresses from git repos of cryptocurrency projects. I reported them to GitHub support...
1252022-10-25T11:38:11 <darosior> glozow: thank you for the summary that's helpful
1262022-10-25T11:38:37 <glozow> real_or_random: I got one too
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1282022-10-25T11:40:17 <darosior> real_or_random: got one too. I occasionally got some asking to fill a survey
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1302022-10-25T11:41:53 <real_or_random> I replied with a GPDR data erasure request but that's probably useless *shrug*. There seems to be some academic researcher behind this, and there's a survey involved but it's obviously not research: "Committable is the next-generation decentralised open-source protocol initiated by University College Oxford Blockchain Research Centre, aiming at establishing an open economy to enable algorithmic software monetisation
1312022-10-25T11:41:53 <real_or_random> (e.g., from a commit to the native COMMIT non-fungible token"
1322022-10-25T11:43:07 <real_or_random> Anyway, I'm not planning to spend any more time on this. I just wanted to let you know that I already reported it to GitHub (ticket #1846866), in case someone else feels they want to do this.
1332022-10-25T11:43:08 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1846866 | HTTP Error 404: Not Found
1342022-10-25T11:43:17 <real_or_random> lol
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1362022-10-25T12:00:29 <darosior> "Zeroconf really isn't safe; double spends are possible today." -> More than that, double spends are possible today without aggressively connecting all around the network (which is what those businesses supposedly do to "protect" themselves). I suspect it's just that they are not getting attacked (or attempts are really not sophisticated, as with
1372022-10-25T12:00:29 <darosior> the Muun recovery tool) and if someone bothered being as aggressive as their are with their "defence" mechanism they'd just be able to double spend them.
1382022-10-25T12:00:29 <darosior> "businesses are using precautions such as requiring high feerates and waiting to detect raced conflicting transactions in other (sometimes many) mempools" -> Have they even stated what "protection" they are using? It seems a lot of the arguments are based on the existence of some solutions that would be very effective today and full-RBF would
1392022-10-25T12:00:29 <darosior> break. I don't think we should take that for granted, who says their solution isn't broken today? To consider these arguments we should probably start by examining the viability of these solutions..
1402022-10-25T12:00:29 <darosior> "Peter Todd reports that he has observed replacements of non-signaling transactions using opentimestamps" -> If this can add weight, i've been reported that at least part of the hashrate has been accepting non-signaling replacements for more than a year (since non-signaling replacements do get mined eventually). And that a very active (>1M
1412022-10-25T12:00:30 <darosior> transactions passed through it) and long-running Electrum server has been running with a non-signaling replacement patch for a long time. Users of this server were able to replace non-signaling transactions and get them mined with very low effort (not necessary to spam the network at all, just broadcast through the server and wait for a bit).
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1492022-10-25T12:39:14 <glozow> darosior: do you have links to observations/reports of these non-signaling replacements maybe? it would be useful to add them.
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1512022-10-25T12:41:10 <glozow> e.g. who is the electrum server?
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1552022-10-25T12:47:54 <darosior> I'm not sure they'd be willing that i disclose that
1562022-10-25T12:49:31 <glozow> yeah fair enough. I just don't really want to put in the doc "somebody told me that somebody said this" if that makes sense
1572022-10-25T12:50:00 <darosior> I understand
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1632022-10-25T13:18:54 <instagibbs> darosior, if you could run your own tests without doxxing it, that would be more reportable?
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1782022-10-25T14:57:39 <luke-jr> shouldn't #26282 be backported to 24.x?
1792022-10-25T14:57:40 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26282 | wallet: have prune error take precedence over assumedvalid by jamesob · Pull Request #26282 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3152022-10-25T23:50:31 <ariard> glozow: thanks for the full RBF sum up! "The last position seems to be very rare." afaik John Carvalho is the only vocal opponent, I wonder if there are folks/entities from 2015-2017 opposing at that time who are still vocal against it
3162022-10-25T23:53:23 <ariard> "Why we should actively move towards Full RBF" it's a low cost trick to partition network mempools, which might lead to leak transaction-relay bandwidth bleeding things
3172022-10-25T23:53:33 <ariard> "LN attacks are also uncommon in practice.
3182022-10-25T23:54:08 <ariard> " yes as of today, though note the rational laid out there https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-October/021093.html, imho lightning change the attacker incentives games
3192022-10-25T23:55:07 <ariard> "Businesses are also typically protected legally from users double-spending them." Most of services might also require some form of KYC/pseudonymous identities
3202022-10-25T23:58:05 <ariard> "Why we should keep the -mempoolfullrbf" One more pro argument, we have some services operators using it like OTS/some Electrum servers backend; even if they're unlikely to achieve the propgation goals with high efficiency, from my perspectivre they should be free to vote with their economic traffic