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992023-09-02T13:16:00 <vasild> What about p2p encryption for Tor/I2P/CJDNS peers? Does that make sense? I guess no?
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1012023-09-02T13:16:44 <vasild> There is an unencrypted link between bitcoind and the (e.g.) Tor daemon, but that is usually running on the same machine.
1022023-09-02T13:17:26 <vasild> How much is the overhead of BIP324 wrt to network traffic volume and CPU load?
1032023-09-02T13:17:55 <vasild> sipa: ^
1042023-09-02T13:19:14 <sipa> depending on CPU architecture, the overhead of BIP324 v2 connections is actually less than v1
1052023-09-02T13:19:30 <sipa> (because v1's double-SHA256 for the checksum is dumb)
1062023-09-02T13:19:51 <sipa> on systems with SHA256 hardware acceleration it's faster than chacha20poly1305, though
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1082023-09-02T13:22:08 <sipa> i do agree that there is not much point to the encryption in tor hidden service, and i2p settings
1092023-09-02T13:26:25 <vasild> ha!
1102023-09-02T13:26:39 <vasild> and traffic volume?
1112023-09-02T13:26:55 <sipa> v2 uses slightly less bandwidth
1122023-09-02T13:27:07 <vasild> do you have numbers?
1132023-09-02T13:27:36 <sipa> v1 has an overhead of 24 bytes per message; v2 has 21 bytes when shortids are in use, 33 bytes otherwise
1142023-09-02T13:27:49 <dviola> sipa, furszy: migration went well here, thanks a lot
1152023-09-02T13:27:56 <vasild> I guess that if we listen on e.g. Tor and support both and somebody connects to us and starts speaking v2, then let it be, talk v2.
1162023-09-02T13:29:41 <vasild> hmm, I guess we will by default use shortids
1172023-09-02T13:30:43 <sipa> yeah, they're assigned for all currently used message types, except ones that are only sent once per connection
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1202023-09-02T13:31:37 <vasild> interesting, so it looks like it would be easier to do nothing special and go with p2p encryption also for tor/...
1212023-09-02T13:32:59 * vasild afk...
1222023-09-02T13:33:15 <sipa> i think so - it'd in theory be possible to define yet another transport that is more lightweight than v1 and has the bandwidth savings of v2 but not the encryption... but i don't think it's worth the logistical complexity of having yet another transport
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1272023-09-02T13:52:59 <vasild> I agree
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1322023-09-02T14:55:48 <dviola> surprised how smooth the migration process went (bdb -> sqlite)
1332023-09-02T14:56:06 <dviola> well, not really, bitcoin core is one of those things that never gave me any issues
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1372023-09-02T15:46:41 <achow101> real_or_random: hwi could probably switch to using github actions, I just don't have the time to do that yet
1382023-09-02T15:48:45 <achow101> it doesn't get much activity either, so I can just turn off the cronjob for now and it basically won't run for a while
1392023-09-02T15:51:04 <hebasto> achow101: mind enabling GHA in HWI repo with the same allowed actions as for Bitcoin Core? I'll try to migrate CI, if you agree
1402023-09-02T15:51:20 <achow101> sure
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