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592025-05-08T08:08:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/95bb305b96a8...03ebdd079302
602025-05-08T08:08:56 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4e8ab5e fanquake: crypto: disable ASan for sha256_sse4 with Clang
612025-05-08T08:08:57 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 03ebdd0 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32437: crypto: disable ASan for sha256_sse4 with Cla...
622025-05-08T08:08:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32437: crypto: disable ASan for sha256_sse4 with Clang (master...extend_asan_sse4) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32437
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642025-05-08T09:21:03 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #32444: doc: swap "Docker image" for "container image" (master...no_docker_container_image) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32444
652025-05-08T09:23:08 <bitcoin-git> [leveldb-subtree] fanquake opened pull request #51: refactor: add missing overrides (bitcoin-fork...add_missing_override) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/leveldb-subtree/pull/51
662025-05-08T09:25:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #32445: build: let CMake determine the year (master...cmake_determine_year) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32445
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692025-05-08T09:42:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/03ebdd079302...646975295237
702025-05-08T09:42:36 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa24fdc MarcoFalke: lint: Remove string exclusion from locale check
712025-05-08T09:42:36 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6469752 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32434: lint: Remove string exclusion from locale che...
722025-05-08T09:42:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32434: lint: Remove string exclusion from locale check (master...2505-lint-loc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32434
732025-05-08T10:00:03 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #32446: build: simplify *ifaddr handling (master...simplify_socket) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32446
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772025-05-08T11:15:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #32447: [RFC] dbwrapper: Set global leveldb mmap limit (master...2025-05-leveldb-mmap-file-limit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32447
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792025-05-08T11:28:54 <bitcoin-git> [leveldb-subtree] laanwj opened pull request #52: Revert "Increase maximum read-only mmap()s used from 1000 to 4096 on 64-bit systems" (bitcoin-fork...2025-05-revert-mmap-increase) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/leveldb-subtree/pull/52
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832025-05-08T11:42:07 <laanwj> well that went from "maybe a good idea" to "that's horrible i would wish this on my worst enemies" really fast... but at least we found another probably redundant custom leveldb patch
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902025-05-08T12:50:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/646975295237...66c968b4b4a9
912025-05-08T12:50:33 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1372eb0 fanquake: doc: swap "Docker image" for "container image"
922025-05-08T12:50:33 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 66c968b merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32444: doc: swap "Docker image" for "container image"
932025-05-08T12:50:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32444: doc: swap "Docker image" for "container image" (master...no_docker_container_image) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32444
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1102025-05-08T13:41:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #32448: contrib: remove bdb exception from FORTIFY check (master...remove_bdb_exception_stack_protector) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32448
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1212025-05-08T15:06:23 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/66c968b4b4a9...1b4ddb0c2d10
1222025-05-08T15:06:24 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master edde963 Hennadii Stepanov: cmake: Respect user-provided configuration-specific flags
1232025-05-08T15:06:24 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1b4ddb0 Ryan Ofsky: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32356: cmake: Respect user-provided configuration-sp...
1242025-05-08T15:06:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #32356: cmake: Respect user-provided configuration-specific flags (master...250426-var-override) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32356
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1302025-05-08T15:39:27 <bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] johnny9 opened pull request #450: Add Multiple Recipients option to the Send form (main...recipients) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/pull/450
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1382025-05-08T15:59:47 <glozow> hi
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1472025-05-08T16:00:12 <instagibbs> hi
1482025-05-08T16:00:13 <kanzure> hi
1492025-05-08T16:00:14 <sipa> hi
1502025-05-08T16:00:19 <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild willcl-ark
1512025-05-08T16:00:20 <hebasto> hi
1522025-05-08T16:00:22 <dzxzg> Hello
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1582025-05-08T16:00:30 <dzxzg> *hi
1592025-05-08T16:00:34 <_aj_> hi*
1602025-05-08T16:00:39 <hodlinator> hi
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1622025-05-08T16:00:41 <achow101> There is one preproposed meeting topic this week, any last minute ones to add?
1632025-05-08T16:00:46 <sipa> #here FirstLast
1642025-05-08T16:01:04 <furszy> hi
1652025-05-08T16:01:13 <stickies-v> hi
1662025-05-08T16:01:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto reopened pull request #31669: cmake: Introduce `WITH_PYTHON` build option (master...250116-python) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31669
1672025-05-08T16:01:27 <kevkevin> hi
1682025-05-08T16:01:38 <achow101> #topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)
1692025-05-08T16:01:52 <sipa> wow, again this topic"
1702025-05-08T16:02:12 <lightlike> Hi
1712025-05-08T16:02:14 <Murch[m]> Yeah, when are yâall gonna finally wrap that up?
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1732025-05-08T16:02:22 <rkrux> hi
1742025-05-08T16:02:28 <sipa> not much to say since last update, though i did a talk about the topic yesterday at bitcoin++
1752025-05-08T16:02:55 <sr_gi[m]> hi
1762025-05-08T16:02:55 <sipa> as most of the more active reviewers are here too, i expect more progress next week (hint hint)
1772025-05-08T16:03:11 <sipa> not much else to say
1782025-05-08T16:03:21 <dzxzg> what's next to review?
1792025-05-08T16:03:25 <darosior> hi
1802025-05-08T16:03:44 <sipa> dzxzg: see the tracking issue #30289
1812025-05-08T16:03:47 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30289 | Cluster mempool tracking issue · Issue #30289 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1822025-05-08T16:03:55 <sipa> #31444 is next to review
1832025-05-08T16:03:57 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31444 | cluster mempool: add txgraph diagrams/mining/eviction by sipa · Pull Request #31444 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1842025-05-08T16:04:11 <theStack> hi
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1862025-05-08T16:04:18 <dzxzg> sipa: thanks
1872025-05-08T16:05:09 <achow101> #topic Erlay WG Update (sr_gi, gleb)
1882025-05-08T16:05:43 <sr_gi[m]> No update this week on my end, still working on Warnet simulations
1892025-05-08T16:06:09 <achow101> #topic MuSig2 WG Update (achow101, rkrux)
1902025-05-08T16:06:17 <achow101> The PRs to review are #31622 and #31244 which I have been responding to comments to and rebasing as needed
1912025-05-08T16:06:22 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31622 | psbt: add non-default sighash types to PSBTs and unify sighash type match checking by achow101 · Pull Request #31622 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1922025-05-08T16:06:23 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31244 | descriptors: MuSig2 by achow101 · Pull Request #31244 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1932025-05-08T16:06:46 <achow101> #topic Legacy Wallet Removal WG Update (achow101, furszy)
1942025-05-08T16:06:54 <achow101> #28710 was merged
1952025-05-08T16:06:57 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28710 | Remove the legacy wallet and BDB dependency by achow101 · Pull Request #28710 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1962025-05-08T16:07:01 <achow101> While there are still several additional cleanups that can be done, I think this project has reached its completion point and it can be removed from the updates list
1972025-05-08T16:07:01 <darosior> achow101: gg
1982025-05-08T16:07:21 <achow101> #topic orphan resolution WG Update (glozow)
1992025-05-08T16:07:29 <glozow> no updates. I hope to get back to it soon.
2002025-05-08T16:07:41 <achow101> #topic QML GUI WG Update (jarolrod, johnny9dev)
2012025-05-08T16:07:42 <glozow> achow101: \o/
2022025-05-08T16:07:49 <johnny9dev> bitcoin-core/gui-qml#448 is complete and just waiting for one last validation and merge
2032025-05-08T16:07:49 <johnny9dev> I opened up the first draft of sending to multiple recipients at bitcoin-core/gui-qml#450
2042025-05-08T16:07:50 <johnny9dev> Contributor Gee has un-drafted AssumeUTXO snapshot loading bitcoin-core/gui-qml#424 and is looking for review. Related to that, he is also looking to contribute this work to the Qt widgets gui at bitcoin-core/gui#870
2052025-05-08T16:07:51 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/issues/448 | Introduce Coin Selection page by johnny9 · Pull Request #448 · bitcoin-core/gui-qml · GitHub
2062025-05-08T16:07:52 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/issues/450 | Add Multiple Recipients option to the Send form by johnny9 · Pull Request #450 · bitcoin-core/gui-qml · GitHub
2072025-05-08T16:07:55 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/issues/424 | QML Load Snapshot Signet (160,000 height) by D33r-Gee · Pull Request #424 · bitcoin-core/gui-qml · GitHub
2082025-05-08T16:07:56 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/issues/870 | [DRAFT] Expose AssumeUTXO Load Snapshot Functionality To The GUI by D33r-Gee · Pull Request #870 · bitcoin-core/gui · GitHub
2092025-05-08T16:08:26 <johnny9dev> That's all for this week
2102025-05-08T16:08:34 <achow101> #topic Script Validation WG Update (fjahr)
2112025-05-08T16:08:42 <fjahr> Received some feedback and new benchmarks on the batch validation PR, I am addressing these shortly, nothing else from me
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2132025-05-08T16:09:10 <achow101> #topic moving the repo to bitcoin-core (take 3) (achow101)
2142025-05-08T16:09:21 <achow101> Last week, a couple people said they wanted more time to formulate opinions, so we had punted another week
2152025-05-08T16:09:27 <achow101> Any new opinions on moving the repo?
2162025-05-08T16:10:46 <Murch[m]> Still seems like a good idea to me. Maybe we should check with Bitcoin Twitter, though. They seem to think that we should run everything by them. :p
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2182025-05-08T16:11:05 <glozow> lol
2192025-05-08T16:11:19 <laanwj> hehe
2202025-05-08T16:11:24 <glozow> I mean, I do think public perception is relevant for this
2212025-05-08T16:11:26 <fjahr> The danger of moving the repo seems extremely limited but I guess since we discussed them at length last time I am leaning to just moving the bips because that's the safest option. But not a strong opinion.
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2232025-05-08T16:12:05 <achow101> I still think we should move both
2242025-05-08T16:12:08 <jonatack> hi
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2262025-05-08T16:12:45 <laanwj> same
2272025-05-08T16:13:14 <furszy> I'm concerned about moving the repo, giving up ownership of /bitcoin due to some public drama in the future, and then the new /bitcoin owners recreating the repo with different source code.
2282025-05-08T16:13:28 <furszy> that's my only concern..
2292025-05-08T16:13:42 <achow101> why would bitcoin/ be given up?
2302025-05-08T16:13:48 <laanwj> having all code repositories under one org would be great and has been the plan pretty much since bitcoin-core org was created
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2322025-05-08T16:13:49 <kanzure> if it is purely a perception problem then by what metric would we determine whether there is any perceptual advantage or improvement by moving or not moving
2332025-05-08T16:13:51 <Murch[m]> I thought it was pretty unanimous that control over the bitcoin org would not be given up
2342025-05-08T16:13:55 <sr_gi[m]> I think given the latest drama, we should no be making a move like right now, it may just add more fuel to the fire
2352025-05-08T16:14:01 <laanwj> no, we're not giving up the bitcoin org
2362025-05-08T16:14:02 <glozow> first pwuille is given up, then bitcoin... chaos
2372025-05-08T16:14:06 <sr_gi[m]> Independently of what we decide
2382025-05-08T16:14:21 <glozow> yeah seems like very bad timing
2392025-05-08T16:14:45 <laanwj> i mean maybe, on the other hand it's always bad timing, there is always some drama in bitcoin
2402025-05-08T16:15:03 <abubakarsadiq> leanwj I always wonder why do we have the two orgs
2412025-05-08T16:15:37 <achow101> kanzure: it's not purely about perception, there are some tangible organizational and moderation benefits that moving would give us
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2432025-05-08T16:15:53 <sipa> abubakarsadiq: bitcoin-core was always intended to move everything bitcoin-core-specific to, but the bitcoin/bitcoin repo just never got around to it
2442025-05-08T16:16:03 <laanwj> abubakarsadiq: good question, it's just how it's historically grew, there is no deep reason behind it
2452025-05-08T16:16:11 <kanzure> not urgent at the moment but is there a way i could subscribe to bitcoin-core/ gh bans to auto-ban on the bips org to not duplicate that work
2462025-05-08T16:16:39 <achow101> sr_gi[m]: otoh, if there's already drama, what could a little more do to make it worse?
2472025-05-08T16:16:43 <achow101> kanzure: afaik, you can't
2482025-05-08T16:17:00 <pinheadmz> isnt the whole point to separate bans between bips and bitcoin core ?
2492025-05-08T16:17:34 <achow101> yeah
2502025-05-08T16:17:39 <sipa> yes, they're different organizations, they should make independent conclusions
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2522025-05-08T16:17:48 <sipa> that doesn't mean they can't come to the same conclusion :p
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2542025-05-08T16:18:10 <_aj_> if bips is going to auto-ban everyone bitcoin-core does, what's the point?
2552025-05-08T16:18:12 <jonatack> moving bitcoin/bitcoin to bitcoin-core/bitcoin or bitcoin-core/bitcoin-core seems the most philosophically correct
2562025-05-08T16:18:16 <kanzure> my esteemed bip editor colleagues may have different opinions, but i don't see why i should want to duplicate any gh ban work; any gh-banned user can simply email an editor or any other BIP contributor anyway.
2572025-05-08T16:18:33 <jonatack> probably best not waiting for the stars to align to do it
2582025-05-08T16:18:55 <jonatack> i don't have a strong opinion about moving the bips repo
2592025-05-08T16:18:58 <laanwj> jonatack: right; "bitcoin core" is a particular implementation, "bitcoin" is the network and block chain
2602025-05-08T16:19:02 <jonatack> it may indeed be a good idea
2612025-05-08T16:19:11 <jonatack> laanwj: yes
2622025-05-08T16:19:56 <achow101> kanzure: and currently it is duplicated work for bitcoin core to have the bans be the same on both orgs, if we actually did that
2632025-05-08T16:20:03 <jonatack> "may indeed be a good idea" -> bips migration to bitcoin-bips
2642025-05-08T16:20:28 <achow101> jonatack: shall we bikeshed the name of the repo? I prefer bitcoin-core/bitcoin-core
2652025-05-08T16:20:31 <kanzure> there are already two orgs anyway, so the duplicative work is an issue as-is
2662025-05-08T16:20:33 <fanquake> The tangible benefits are certainly minor. The team syncing thing is negligable. i.e a handful of actions a year, across multiple people (think I've added a couple people in the last few months). Essentially the same in regards to ban management across repos. Aside from obvious spam, which requires no coordination, I think we've banned a handful of people?
2672025-05-08T16:20:47 <sr_gi[m]> achow101: some people love to see hidden agendas in all we do, so why give them more stuff to keep making noise for longer? Given there is no real rush for this, I think we should exercise some caution
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2692025-05-08T16:21:38 <sipa> i agree there is no rush
2702025-05-08T16:21:41 <kanzure> important to remind non-github users that github is simply a platform that some of us choose to use to work together. before github and sourceforge people used to actually email each other to discuss code or send patches. you can email anyone you want in the whole world! any contributor, as maintainers do not have a monopoly on email address namespace.
2712025-05-08T16:21:41 <furszy> yeah.. I just don't see any value in jumping straight into another public debate right now. There's risk involved in moving the main repo, but no risk in moving only the BIPs repo. Maybe we could start with that for now?
2722025-05-08T16:21:45 <jonatack> achow101: bitcoin-core/bitcoin-core sgtm too
2732025-05-08T16:21:47 <pinheadmz> agreed, punt
2742025-05-08T16:21:53 <_aj_> "bitcoin org is the network, not an implementation" doesn't really match the "but we'll keep bitcoin/bitcoin pointing at bitcoin-core/whatever forever"
2752025-05-08T16:22:28 <laanwj> in a way moving bips is more controversial than moving bitcoin core, as bips does belong with the global network/blockchain and is shared between implementations
2762025-05-08T16:22:47 <darosior> I did not think it through more since last time, in the middle of a conference currently. I still believe it makes sense ideologically but in practice it's unnecessary risk and burden. In addition right now it is pretty bad timing and i don't see the rush.
2772025-05-08T16:22:48 <achow101> _aj_: sure, but that's more a practical thing because there's 15 years of links that would be broken or could end up pointing to a scam
2782025-05-08T16:22:57 <jonatack> FWIW, I don't see how anti-core sentiment would be further fueled by moving to bitcoin-core
2792025-05-08T16:23:01 <stickies-v> exponential backoff? discussing this every week might be a bit inefficient
2802025-05-08T16:23:10 <hodlinator> I think it might help perception to "concede" that bitcoin-core is not bitcoin, but it's hard to predict.
2812025-05-08T16:23:12 <fjahr> I think if we explain that this is actually a move that means people get less widely banned it should not cause too much drama, but unsure if people listen...
2822025-05-08T16:23:13 <kanzure> _aj_: unfortunately gh namespace 'bitcoin' owners have essentially a moral obligation to not abandon it to the wolves due to long-term security issues, such as release spoofing, tag spoofing, issue rewriting, comment rewriting... etc.
2832025-05-08T16:23:31 <laanwj> in any case, i don't think bringing this back every week is going to help, if there is no broad agreement to do anything then let's just not do it, or maybe in another 10 years
2842025-05-08T16:23:47 <darosior> stickies-v: +1 i don't really see what's the rush here
2852025-05-08T16:23:59 <abubakarsadiq> +1 darosior
2862025-05-08T16:24:13 <jonatack> the current anti sentiment seems to be as much or more fueled in any case by *how* than by *what*
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2882025-05-08T16:24:33 <achow101> alright, we can punt for another decade lol
2892025-05-08T16:24:40 <darosior> :)
2902025-05-08T16:24:46 <achow101> any other topics to discuss?
2912025-05-08T16:24:50 <fjahr> why not move the bips then?
2922025-05-08T16:24:51 <stickies-v> kanzure: we could purposefully break the redirect in x years to ensure any people still relying on bitcoin/bitcoin move, almost entirely eliminating the hostile takeover risk
2932025-05-08T16:24:55 <Murch[m]> Maybe bring it up in a month?
2942025-05-08T16:25:06 <sipa> fjahr: that's out of scope for this meeting, imo
2952025-05-08T16:25:12 <achow101> Murch[m]: I was thinking coredev actually
2962025-05-08T16:25:19 <sipa> bip editor can decide to do that, if they want
2972025-05-08T16:25:20 <fjahr> it would fix the problem we have...
2982025-05-08T16:25:28 <achow101> fjahr: that's for the bip editors to decide
2992025-05-08T16:25:28 <darosior> Yeah Coredev seems like a good fit to discuss this
3002025-05-08T16:25:32 <laanwj> tbf i dono't htink sentiment is ever going to be better, there's always new drama
3012025-05-08T16:25:37 <Murch[m]> fjahr: Only one of three problems by my count
3022025-05-08T16:26:03 <stickies-v> thank you to everyone whoâs hosted review clubs in recent weeks! next week we have a kernel review club coming up (https://bitcoincore.reviews/32317, notes up tomorrow)
3032025-05-08T16:26:12 <Murch[m]> It would fix that bans by Bitcoin Core affect BIPs, but it would not fix the org split that Bitcoin Core has currently, nor disclaim that Bitcoin Core is Bitcoin
3042025-05-08T16:26:16 <stickies-v> we have free slots available in the next weeks, so if youâre down to represent your WG pls dm myself or glozow
3052025-05-08T16:26:42 <laanwj> stickies-v: good to know!
3062025-05-08T16:27:22 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] furszy opened pull request #32449: wallet: init, don't error out when loading legacy wallets (master...2025_init_skip_legacy_wallets) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32449
3072025-05-08T16:27:56 <achow101> #endmeeting
3082025-05-08T16:27:56 <corebot> achow101: Meeting ended at 2025-05-08T16:27+0000
3092025-05-08T16:27:57 <corebot> achow101: Raw log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-05-08_16_00.log.json
3102025-05-08T16:27:58 <corebot> achow101: Formatted log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-05-08_16_00.log.html
3112025-05-08T16:27:59 <corebot> achow101: Minutes: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-05-08_16_00.html
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3132025-05-08T16:28:24 <kanzure> for a future topic perhaps consideration of a private login-only issue tracker (but open registration) to downregulate public social media linkbrigading effects
3142025-05-08T16:28:26 <_aj_> Murch[m]: (we've coped pretty well with bitcoin.com, bitcoin.org, twitter.com/bitcoin, reddit.com/bitcoin not necessarily being "bitcoin", why should github.com/bitcoin be that different?)
3152025-05-08T16:28:43 <jonatack> Murch[m]: right, if anything reckon the move would be seen as positive. maybe some trial balloons can be lofted to check.
3162025-05-08T16:28:46 <kanzure> we have absolutely not coped well with bitcoin.com are you kidding me
3172025-05-08T16:28:48 <fjahr> Murch[m]: we still have headaches to not loose bitcoin/bitcoin so the org split isn't really going away imo and the third is philosophical. Seemed to me that the first issue was what started this discussion and bothered people the most. That's why it seemed like the highest priority to me.
3182025-05-08T16:28:53 <kanzure> tons of users have been completely fooled by bitcoin.com
3192025-05-08T16:28:58 <kanzure> with devastating financial consequences
3202025-05-08T16:28:59 <abubakarsadiq> @stickies-v There is an issue for the requests https://github.com/bitcoin-core-review-club/website/issues/791
3212025-05-08T16:29:22 <stickies-v> ah yes thank you abubakarsadiq - avenues aplenty!
3222025-05-08T16:29:45 <Murch[m]> fjahr: Fair point
3232025-05-08T16:30:48 <laanwj> we could also move everything from bitcoin-core to bitcoin instead lol
3242025-05-08T16:31:09 <achow101> lol
3252025-05-08T16:31:12 <fjahr> Just putting it here then: Would be great if bip editors could discuss it :)
3262025-05-08T16:31:33 <jonatack> heh stoke the flames higher
3272025-05-08T16:32:00 <jonatack> fjahr: we began discussing right away, no clear rough consensus for the moment iirc
3282025-05-08T16:32:19 <fjahr> ok, thanks for the update!
3292025-05-08T16:32:36 <jonatack> (when achow101 opened the issue i brought it up)
3302025-05-08T16:33:52 <_aj_> laanwj: change the display name to "Bitcoin Core", add links to other resources/clients in the org description
3312025-05-08T16:38:16 <_aj_> laanwj: work out whether the bitcoin core logo is black (x.com/bitcoincoreorg, github.com/bitcoin) or orange (github.com/bitcoin-core, bitcoincore.org)...
3322025-05-08T16:38:31 <sipa> haha
3332025-05-08T16:38:53 <laanwj> looooolll
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3352025-05-08T16:39:40 <laanwj> black is the general logo, orange is specifically the main chain
3362025-05-08T16:45:52 <dzxzg> next testnet reset should get a new color :)
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3402025-05-08T17:00:01 <Murch[m]> Next testnet reset should have a substantial premine for any dev that signs up in advance to get one
3412025-05-08T17:00:46 <Murch[m]> That should make it easier to get coins to anyone that needs them and provide ample coin to sell into any exchanges that might start trading it
3422025-05-08T17:01:07 <Murch[m]> Like maybe 1'000'000 coins per party that wants any
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3442025-05-08T17:15:20 <_aj_> 10.5M coins divided by how many people sign up, and block reward halves every 105k blocks would make the maths easier maybe
3452025-05-08T17:16:27 <laanwj> dzxzg: a fun idea but i'm afraid giving them unique colors will only encourage people to collect them all :)
3462025-05-08T17:21:02 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #32450: randomenv: remove some `/proc/` accesses (master...remove_randomenv_proc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32450
3472025-05-08T17:28:34 <laanwj> Murch: yes you'd say if the premine is that large it will discourage people from trading them for real money, on the other hand, crypto people...
3482025-05-08T17:31:54 <Murch[m]> Given that Testnet 4 was immediately monopolized and traded after launch, it seems like another thing that could be tried
3492025-05-08T17:32:23 <Murch[m]> Giving out half the coins in advance and halving the reward schedule like _aj_ suggests sounds good
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3532025-05-08T18:03:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] andrewtoth opened pull request #32451: contrib: add xor-blocks tool to obfuscate blocks directory (master...xor-blocks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32451
3542025-05-08T18:06:52 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1b4ddb0c2d10...1656f6dbba86
3552025-05-08T18:06:52 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f9dfe8d fanquake: contrib: remove bdb exception from FORTIFY check
3562025-05-08T18:06:53 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1656f6d Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32448: contrib: remove bdb exception from FORTIFY ch...
3572025-05-08T18:06:53 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #32448: contrib: remove bdb exception from FORTIFY check (master...remove_bdb_exception_stack_protector) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32448
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3812025-05-08T20:57:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1656f6dbba86...ad5cd129f3cc
3822025-05-08T20:57:58 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 879243e Hodlinator: qa refactor: wait_for_rpc_connection - Treat OSErrors the same
3832025-05-08T20:57:59 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6ad21b4 Hodlinator: qa: Include ignored errors in RPC connection timeout
3842025-05-08T20:57:59 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9b24a40 Hodlinator: qa: Only allow calling TestNode.stop() after connecting
3852025-05-08T20:58:00 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #30660: qa: Verify clean shutdown on startup failure (master...2024-08/test_node_rpc_connection_failure) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30660
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3972025-05-08T22:36:30 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #32452: test: Remove legacy wallet RPC overloads (master...cleanup-test-import-overload) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32452
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4002025-05-08T22:46:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] JeremyRubin opened pull request #32453: [Policy] Discourage Unsigned Annexes (master...unsigned_annex) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32453
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