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42025-07-03T00:04:23 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoincore.org] joetor5 opened pull request #1156: Add spanish translation for 28.2 release (master...es-trans) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/1156
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1082025-07-03T08:47:09 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/192743235493...49d5f1f2c6d2
1092025-07-03T08:47:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d6aaffc brunoerg: test: check P2SH sigop count for coinbase tx
1102025-07-03T08:47:10 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 49d5f1f merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32850: test: check P2SH sigop count for coinbase tx
1112025-07-03T08:47:11 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32850: test: check P2SH sigop count for coinbase tx (master...2025-07-test-p2shsigopcount-coinbase) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32850
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1132025-07-03T08:55:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #32861: Have createwalletdescriptor auto-detect an unused(KEY) (master...2025/07/smart-createwalletdescriptor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32861
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1202025-07-03T09:20:14 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 12 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/49d5f1f2c6d2...625194944333
1212025-07-03T09:20:15 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6c364e0 Martin Zumsande: test: Enable various tests for usage with cli
1222025-07-03T09:20:15 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7d5352a Martin Zumsande: test: use -stdin for large rpc commands
1232025-07-03T09:20:15 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5b08885 Martin Zumsande: test: enable functional tests with large rpc args for cli
1242025-07-03T09:20:16 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32290: test: allow all functional tests to be run or skipped with --usecli (master...202505_fix_usecli) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32290
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1362025-07-03T09:47:31 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/625194944333...c7fe8abb5f38
1372025-07-03T09:47:32 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bb9157d Hennadii Stepanov: cmake, refactor: Switch to `Python3::Interpreter` imported target
1382025-07-03T09:47:32 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 67dc752 Hennadii Stepanov: cmake, test: Disable tests instead of ignoring them
1392025-07-03T09:47:32 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c7fe8ab merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31233: cmake: Improve Python robustness and test usa...
1402025-07-03T09:47:34 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #31233: cmake: Improve Python robustness and test usability (master...241106-python) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31233
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1462025-07-03T10:00:52 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c7fe8abb5f38...927e9b220f17
1472025-07-03T10:00:53 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4f10a57 Hennadii Stepanov: depends: Override host compilers for FreeBSD and OpenBSD
1482025-07-03T10:00:53 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 927e9b2 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32716: depends: Override host compilers for FreeBSD ...
1492025-07-03T10:00:55 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32716: depends: Override host compilers for FreeBSD and OpenBSD (master...250610-depends-bsd) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32716
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1552025-07-03T10:39:51 <sipa> phantomcircuit: yeah, i think that's what you want. But for it to be useful, you'd need the ability for net_processing to continue while ABC is running. However, you cannot process further messages from the peer that gave you the block, as that wouls violate the protocol (e.g. if they send a BLOCK followed by a PING, they only expect the PONG after the block is processed), so you need a way to mark
1562025-07-03T10:39:57 <sipa> a peer in net_processing as "paused" while ABC is...
1572025-07-03T10:40:00 <sipa> running for it, making net_processing skip the peer
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1602025-07-03T10:46:53 <_aj_> sipa: you probably want to defer processing (and requesting?) transactions from other peers as well? probably also pause any peers that announce the same block/header at you?
1612025-07-03T10:47:11 <_aj_> s/probably/possibly/g
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1642025-07-03T10:53:32 <sipa> _aj_: yes, i think what we really want is validation to work as a queue of (tx, block, cmpctblk, ...) objects, each with a callback for reporting success/failure. net_processing just hands the received objects to the queue, pausing the peer that gave them. Upon completion, the callback unpauses them (and perhaps relays, punishes, ...); the nice thing is that the validation queue can then be made to
1652025-07-03T10:53:38 <sipa> reorder/prioritize its objects (e.g. prioritize blocks...
1662025-07-03T10:53:41 <sipa> over txn), or split up processing (e.g. do an early header check first, or do things quickly if they are cached already, or even start doing transactioj validation in multiple script threads, ...)
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1682025-07-03T10:57:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 9 commits to 29.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/983b268768f0...d360a6ef565f
1692025-07-03T10:57:38 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/29.x e37a70b will: build: add root dir to CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH
1702025-07-03T10:57:38 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/29.x 5987c1b Sebastian Falbesoner: test: fix catchup loop in outbound eviction functional test
1712025-07-03T10:57:38 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/29.x a990c10 Hennadii Stepanov: cmake: Use `HINTS` instead of `PATHS` in `find_*` commands
1722025-07-03T10:57:39 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32810: [29.x] More backports (29.x...even_more_29_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32810
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1752025-07-03T11:06:24 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] pinheadmz opened pull request #32862: rpc: use CScheduler for HTTPRPCTimer and remove RPCTimer (master...http-scheduler-notimer) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32862
1762025-07-03T11:06:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] pinheadmz closed pull request #32796: rpc: use CScheduler for HTTPRPCTimer (master...http-scheduler) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32796
1772025-07-03T11:08:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #32863: [29.x] Backports (29.x...probably_final_29_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32863
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1812025-07-03T11:15:02 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kilavvy opened pull request #32864: fix typos and improve clarity in documentation (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32864
1822025-07-03T11:21:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #32865: cmake: Use `AUTHOR_WARNING` for warnings (master...use_author_warning) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32865
1832025-07-03T11:23:30 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #32864: fix typos and improve clarity in documentation (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32864
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2012025-07-03T12:39:31 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #32868: test: refactor: overhaul block hash determination for `CBlock{,Header}` objects (master...202506-test-remove_blockhash_caching) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32868
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2122025-07-03T13:42:47 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #32869: WIP p2p: Relax BlockRequestAllowed to respond to advertised blocks (master...2025-07-invalid-cb-stall) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32869
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2192025-07-03T14:11:11 <bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] dergoegge pushed 3 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/compare/c93ae8c8e7e3...c6cb320c0e45
2202025-07-03T14:11:12 <bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main f9816b7 MarcoFalke: Add fuzz inputs
2212025-07-03T14:11:12 <bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main 7720cbb MarcoFalke: remove crashing rpc inputs for now
2222025-07-03T14:11:12 <bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main c6cb320 Niklas Gögge: Merge pull request #227 from maflcko/main
2232025-07-03T14:11:13 <bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] dergoegge merged pull request #227: Add fuzz inputs (main...main) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/227
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2312025-07-03T15:11:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #32615: fee estimate test: fix #31944 by handling a legitimate scenario that ⦠(master...fix-fee-estimation-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32615
2322025-07-03T15:24:20 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/927e9b220f17...51ccc71b1bf9
2332025-07-03T15:24:21 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0a1af44 Hennadii Stepanov: doc: Add workaround for vcpkg issue with paths with embedded spaces
2342025-07-03T15:24:21 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 51ccc71 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32858: doc: Add workaround for vcpkg issue with path...
2352025-07-03T15:24:23 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32858: doc: Add workaround for vcpkg issue with paths with embedded spaces (master...250702-vcpkg-spaces) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32858
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2392025-07-03T16:00:24 <achow101> #startmeeting
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2452025-07-03T16:00:32 <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto hodlinator instagibbs jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild willcl-ark
2462025-07-03T16:00:34 <hebasto> hi
2472025-07-03T16:00:37 <cfields> hi
2482025-07-03T16:00:37 <johnny9dev> Hi
2492025-07-03T16:00:39 <laanwj> hi
2502025-07-03T16:00:42 <abubakarsadiq> hi
2512025-07-03T16:00:42 <lightlike> hi
2522025-07-03T16:00:42 <sr_gi[m]1> hi
2532025-07-03T16:00:44 <pinheadmz> hi
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2552025-07-03T16:00:47 <stickies-v> hi
2562025-07-03T16:00:47 <achow101> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Any last minute ones to add?
2572025-07-03T16:00:47 <janb84> hi
2582025-07-03T16:00:56 <danielabrozzoni> hi
2592025-07-03T16:01:06 <brunoerg> hi
2602025-07-03T16:01:20 <achow101> #topic Erlay WG Update (sr_gi, gleb)
2612025-07-03T16:01:35 <vasild> hi
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2632025-07-03T16:02:56 <sipa> hi
2642025-07-03T16:03:52 <dergoegge> hi
2652025-07-03T16:03:56 <instagibbs> hi
2662025-07-03T16:03:58 <Murch[m]> Hi
2672025-07-03T16:04:03 <sr_gi[m]1> It seems the propagation time issue I found last week may be what was making erlay times too good to be true. I've been re-running the simulations for small (50 nodes) and medium-size (200 nodes) networks. I'm currently re-working part of the warnet simulations so they can handle bigger networks (500 nodes is the most I've done, but the sims are a bit unreliable)
2682025-07-03T16:04:18 <pablomartin4btc> hi
2692025-07-03T16:04:28 <sr_gi[m]1> My goal is having the sims for all of them in the upcoming days so I can report back hopefully next week, and start moving forward
2702025-07-03T16:05:09 <sr_gi[m]1> That's it on my end
2712025-07-03T16:05:25 <achow101> #topic Fuzzing WG Update (dergoegge)
2722025-07-03T16:05:37 <dergoegge> Found 2 bugs on PRs with fuzzamoto in the last two weeks. One really shallow one in the erlay sketch deserialization code and one in the cluster mempool PR. The mempool bug specifically is a nice example for the complex inputs that fuzzamoto can generate.
2732025-07-03T16:05:46 <dergoegge> Also implemented a ânetsplitâ oracle, which already found a minor issue, fixed by instagibbs here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32869 (would be nice to get some review on that)
2742025-07-03T16:05:57 <dergoegge> More updates (and links to the above): https://gist.github.com/dergoegge/0f732c440c19d02cf5eb6059ee90147c
2752025-07-03T16:06:23 <sipa> nice!
2762025-07-03T16:07:03 <dergoegge> (that's it on my end)
2772025-07-03T16:07:22 <achow101> #topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)
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2792025-07-03T16:07:45 <sipa> hi
2802025-07-03T16:08:12 <sipa> i think both #31553 and #30605 are really close
2812025-07-03T16:08:15 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31553 | cluster mempool: add TxGraph reorg functionality by sipa · Pull Request #31553 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2822025-07-03T16:08:17 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30605 | Cluster linearization: separate tests from tests-of-tests by sipa · Pull Request #30605 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2832025-07-03T16:08:40 <sipa> the past week some extra benchmarks are tests were added, but i don't expect many further changes
2842025-07-03T16:08:51 <glozow> hi
2852025-07-03T16:09:02 <instagibbs> try not to rebase on master if possible :P
2862025-07-03T16:09:38 <sipa> after that, the txgraph API will be largely complete, and i think we can start focusing on getting parts of the full cluster mempool implementation (#28676) in
2872025-07-03T16:09:40 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28676 | [WIP] Cluster mempool implementation by sdaftuar · Pull Request #28676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2882025-07-03T16:10:00 <glozow> sipa: would the plan be to do that PR all together?
2892025-07-03T16:10:08 <glozow> (all of 28676)
2902025-07-03T16:10:36 <sipa> unsure, i assume it contains some amount of preparatory work that can be split off
2912025-07-03T16:11:17 <sipa> but the bulk, adding the cluster tracking, and switching out the mempool tracking, will need to be one PR I think (or at least a sequence of PRs that are all expected to go into the same release)
2922025-07-03T16:12:01 <glozow> makes sense
2932025-07-03T16:12:10 <sipa> that's it for me, unless more questions
2942025-07-03T16:12:42 <achow101> #topic MuSig2 WG Update (achow101, rkrux)
2952025-07-03T16:12:45 <abubakarsadiq> On the process of re-reviewing #31553, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31553/commits/938e86f8fecd65ca90b97e6cf896f8c59fb590ba
2962025-07-03T16:12:45 <abubakarsadiq> I like the test one transaction forming huge cluster by spending them. and then in trim we don't just evict it alone.
2972025-07-03T16:12:45 <abubakarsadiq> we evict others, I think that should not be the case?
2982025-07-03T16:12:47 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31553 | cluster mempool: add TxGraph reorg functionality by sipa · Pull Request #31553 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3002025-07-03T16:14:08 <sipa> abubakarsadiq: an optimal eviction algorithm could avoid that, but the trim algorithm is really just a best-effort of what we can accomplish in O(n log n)
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3022025-07-03T16:14:48 <sipa> with proper linearization we could do a lot better - but the whole point of trim is that it can work with much larger numbers of transactions than what fit in a cluster
3032025-07-03T16:14:48 <achow101> #topic cluster mempool still
3042025-07-03T16:15:53 <abubakarsadiq> yep, could just throw txs in compact block reconstruction txs with a bound if thats the case.
3052025-07-03T16:16:06 <sipa> right
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3072025-07-03T16:17:06 <abubakarsadiq> Also I think if we evict children first, we could avoid that but the current best effort algorithm is better in terms of incentive compatibility I think
3082025-07-03T16:17:18 <sipa> i'm not too worried about this, in practice i think the amount of oversized would-be clusters formed by reorged will be pretty small in non-attack scenarios
3092025-07-03T16:17:35 <instagibbs> most clusters are singletons after all
3102025-07-03T16:17:35 <abubakarsadiq> ð
3112025-07-03T16:17:38 <sipa> and it costs creating a block to do something deliberately crazy
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3142025-07-03T16:18:46 <sipa> abubakarsadiq: we're not restricted to the current Trim algorithm too; we could experiment with better algorithms later, or even have multiple algorithms depending on the size (e.g. have a medium-size trim algorithm that works acceptably fast for say ~200 transactions, but not 5000, for which we can still fall back to the current Trim one)
3152025-07-03T16:19:03 <sipa> but those don't affect the API, so wouldn't block further cluster mempool progress
3162025-07-03T16:19:14 <abubakarsadiq> yes please
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3182025-07-03T16:19:32 <sipa> now back to your regularly scheduled MuSig2
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3202025-07-03T16:19:58 <achow101> #topic MuSig2 WG Update (achow101, rkrux)
3212025-07-03T16:20:12 <achow101> #31244 is probably rfm, otherwise, no updates
3222025-07-03T16:20:15 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31244 | descriptors: MuSig2 by achow101 · Pull Request #31244 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3232025-07-03T16:20:23 <achow101> #topic orphan resolution WG Update (glozow)
3242025-07-03T16:21:19 <glozow> I've been working on benchmarks for #31829, and have been chatting with sipa about potentially baking number of inputs into the dos score
3252025-07-03T16:21:21 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31829 | p2p: improve TxOrphanage denial of service bounds by glozow · Pull Request #31829 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3262025-07-03T16:21:39 <instagibbs> for the eraseforblock case?
3272025-07-03T16:21:40 <glozow> Worst case EraseForBlock times were pretty bad (if you have tons of transactions each spending hundreds of inputs all conflicting with the block)
3282025-07-03T16:21:48 <glozow> yeah, I'm getting 35ms on my machine
3292025-07-03T16:22:25 <sipa> EraseForBlock, but also EraseForPeer could trigger most (but not all) of the same work, which is potentially triggerable by non-miners
3302025-07-03T16:23:19 <instagibbs> due to outpoint map?
3312025-07-03T16:23:38 <glozow> Yes. EraseForBlock is slightly worse because it has the loop that builds the set of wtxids to erase (each of the 1750 wtxids is added ~180 times). And then it has to erase all of those entries from the outpoints map
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3332025-07-03T16:24:52 <instagibbs> ð
3342025-07-03T16:24:55 <glozow> The current ideated formula is that "announcement count" becomes 1 + floor(vin.size() / 10) for each tx. So the first 9 inputs are "free" and this limit is hopefully not relevant to normal transactions
3352025-07-03T16:26:03 <sipa> the vin.size()/10 would be deduplicated across peers, while the 1 part isn't
3362025-07-03T16:26:18 <sipa> as each tx's inputs only appear once in the outpoint index
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3382025-07-03T16:27:06 <bitcoin-git> [packaging] fanquake pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/packaging/compare/aad8d4df0f4c...1c03d604e451
3392025-07-03T16:27:07 <bitcoin-git> packaging/main 577ccb0 MarcoFalke: ci: Avoid separate pull to work around snap issue
3402025-07-03T16:27:07 <bitcoin-git> packaging/main 1c03d60 merge-script: Merge bitcoin-core/packaging#284: ci: Avoid separate pull to work around s...
3412025-07-03T16:27:08 <bitcoin-git> [packaging] fanquake merged pull request #284: ci: Avoid separate pull to work around snap issue (main...2506-ci) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/packaging/pull/284
3422025-07-03T16:27:55 <glozow> right that part is similar to the memusage metric
3432025-07-03T16:28:57 <glozow> Since last week I've also added sipa's simulation fuzzer + a few small tweaks and tests
3442025-07-03T16:29:04 <glozow> that's all the updates
3452025-07-03T16:29:45 <achow101> #topic QML GUI WG Update (jarolrod, johnny9dev)
3462025-07-03T16:30:11 <johnny9dev> Not much this week on QML work. bitcoin-core/gui-qml#450 got merged and hebasto and pinheadmz are making good progress on bitcoin-core/gui-qml#472.
3472025-07-03T16:30:11 <johnny9dev> Thats all for now
3482025-07-03T16:30:14 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/issues/450 | Add Multiple Recipients option to the Send form by johnny9 · Pull Request #450 · bitcoin-core/gui-qml · GitHub
3492025-07-03T16:30:19 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/issues/472 | Rebase gui-qml on bitcoin/bitcoin, include qt6 and cmake by pinheadmz · Pull Request #472 · bitcoin-core/gui-qml · GitHub
3502025-07-03T16:30:30 <achow101> Any other topics to discuss?
3512025-07-03T16:30:57 <bitcoin-git> [packaging] fanquake pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/packaging/compare/1c03d604e451...9ac225b7e060
3522025-07-03T16:30:57 <bitcoin-git> packaging/main 2357600 Hennadii Stepanov: snap: Drop `desktop-launch`
3532025-07-03T16:30:58 <bitcoin-git> packaging/main 9ac225b merge-script: Merge bitcoin-core/packaging#276: snap: Drop `desktop-launch`
3542025-07-03T16:30:59 <bitcoin-git> [packaging] fanquake merged pull request #276: snap: Drop `desktop-launch` (main...250417-desktop-launch) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/packaging/pull/276
3552025-07-03T16:31:14 <l0rinc> I have a mempool related question regarding https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32827#issue-3186436123
3562025-07-03T16:31:47 <l0rinc> do we need to keep the mempool stats up-to-date when the mempool is still empty? My understanding is that when it becomes empty we definitely need to keep the fee estimation state updated, but not sure if that's necessary during IBD. And if I try skipping `MempoolTransactionsRemovedForBlock` notification for the resulting empty vector of removals, I'm getting a test failure and need some help in deciding if the test shows a representative behavior
3572025-07-03T16:31:47 <l0rinc> or not - would be nice if we could avoid adding another callback into the validation queue...
3582025-07-03T16:31:49 <achow101> #topic mempool in ibd
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3602025-07-03T16:33:01 <glozow> Is the question whether the fee estimator needs to know about every `MempoolTransactionsRemovedForBlock`?
3612025-07-03T16:33:30 <l0rinc> yes, in case of no removals
3622025-07-03T16:33:58 <l0rinc> as is the case as far as I can tell during IBD before any mempool activity
3632025-07-03T16:33:59 <abubakarsadiq> l0rinc: is it the fee estimator test that is failing?
3642025-07-03T16:34:28 <l0rinc> it's feature_fee_estimation
3652025-07-03T16:34:51 <glozow> I think this is the only way the fee estimator updates `txHeight`
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3672025-07-03T16:35:20 <glozow> Is this slowing IBD down though? Doesn't this happen on a background thread?
3682025-07-03T16:35:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 6 commits to 28.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e44d72b6480a...3c56d36bec53
3692025-07-03T16:35:27 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x d235d5b zaidmstrr: test: Fix list index out of range error in feature_bip68_sequence.py
3702025-07-03T16:35:27 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x 907772d fanquake: doc: fix transifex 404s
3712025-07-03T16:35:27 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x d19a8e0 Sjors Provoost: doc: taproot became always active in v24.0
3722025-07-03T16:35:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32811: [28.x] Backports (28.x...28_more_backporting) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32811
3732025-07-03T16:35:28 <abubakarsadiq> shouldn't it be no-op when their is no data on mempool, is their a measurable improvement from skipping that?
3742025-07-03T16:36:05 <jonatack> hi
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3762025-07-03T16:36:27 <l0rinc> glozow: it's blocking the queue, as furzsy sais:
3772025-07-03T16:36:32 <l0rinc> > First quick glance it seems that if the mempool is empty; we could avoid calling removeForBlock entirely. Which will save us from adding another callback into the validation queue too, which will leave space for processing another block during ibd.
3782025-07-03T16:36:33 <l0rinc> > Yet, that was a fast check. Should check who is using the MempoolTransactionsRemovedForBlock event.
3792025-07-03T16:36:38 <l0rinc> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32730#discussion_r2140931183
3802025-07-03T16:38:03 <l0rinc> We don't have to resolve it here, if anyone has insights, please add it to the PR - otherwise I will keep the MempoolTransactionsRemovedForBlock call for empty txs_removed_for_block as well
3812025-07-03T16:38:10 <abubakarsadiq> glozow: yes, we update `nHeight` after we are done with ibd and update the fee estimator stats for the first time it recorded data is marked as confirmed because of a new block.
3822025-07-03T16:38:41 <glozow> so the fee estimator doesn't do anything during IBD?
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3842025-07-03T16:40:17 <abubakarsadiq> yes it does not, it has to see transaction enter mempool first.
3852025-07-03T16:41:11 <glozow> I meant to ask if the fee estimator gated on IBD?
3862025-07-03T16:41:28 <glozow> if its functions are gated*
3872025-07-03T16:42:34 <glozow> nvm, can look at this later
3882025-07-03T16:42:42 <abubakarsadiq> the updates are redundant, we don't do anything and can be avoided I think.
3892025-07-03T16:42:51 <abubakarsadiq> I started looking at it in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32748
3902025-07-03T16:43:58 <l0rinc> thanks, that's it from me
3912025-07-03T16:44:36 <achow101> Any other topics?
3922025-07-03T16:46:22 <achow101> #endmeeting
3932025-07-03T16:46:22 <corebot> achow101: Meeting ended at 2025-07-03T16:46+0000
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3952025-07-03T16:46:24 <corebot> achow101: Formatted log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-07-03_16_00.log.html
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4092025-07-03T17:21:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] davidgumberg closed pull request #31665: build: Make config warnings fatal if -DWCONFIGURE_ERROR=ON (master...1-15-24-configure_warnings) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31665
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4142025-07-03T17:51:15 <bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] murchandamus closed pull request #229: Add Murchâs inputs July 2025 (main...2025-07-murch-inputs) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/229
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4232025-07-03T18:38:51 <furszy> l0rinc: I just had a quick talk with abubakarsadiq and It seems we still need to send the signal just to update the best seen height inside the fee estimation class, but we can skip some of the calculations on the event processing side (all the stats objects are initialized but contain only the default values, so we could avoid going through them while computing some mod operations). Still, not sure how much performance gain we will g
4242025-07-03T18:38:51 <furszy> et from this. Matter of checking it.
4252025-07-03T18:58:05 <abubakarsadiq> yeah working on it ðð¾
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4402025-07-03T20:35:08 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] 1BitcoinBoWP1FZ4xwTNkq6XksKidmgYYw opened pull request #32871: New SVG, Icons, PNGs and X PixMaps (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32871
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4732025-07-03T22:40:33 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #32788: descriptors: Allow `H` as a hardened indicator (master...desc-allow-H) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32788
4742025-07-03T22:40:34 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/51ccc71b1bf9...ea4285775e61
4752025-07-03T22:40:34 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a69c409 Hodlinator: rpc: take ownership of the file by WriteUTXOSnapshot()
4762025-07-03T22:40:34 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8bb34f0 Vasil Dimov: Explicitly close all AutoFiles that have been written
4772025-07-03T22:40:34 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4bb5dd7 Vasil Dimov: util: check that a file has been closed before ~AutoFile() is called
4782025-07-03T22:40:34 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #29307: util: explicitly close all AutoFiles that have been written (master...AutoFile_error_check) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29307
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4922025-07-03T23:45:47 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ea4285775e61...e3f416dbf763
4932025-07-03T23:45:48 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5c1236f ismaelsadeeq: test: fix incorrect subtest in `feature_fee_estimation.py`
4942025-07-03T23:45:48 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9b75cfd ismaelsadeeq: test: retain the intended behavior of `feature_fee_estimation.py` nodes
4952025-07-03T23:45:48 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e3f416d Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32463: test: fix an incorrect `feature_fee_estimatio...
4962025-07-03T23:45:49 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #32463: test: fix an incorrect `feature_fee_estimation.py` subtest (master...05-2025-fix-incorrect-fee-estimator-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32463
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