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162025-07-04T03:43:29 <phantomcircuit> sipa: can i just skip abc for blocks during ibd but run checkblock/acceptblock ?
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192025-07-04T03:52:45 <phantomcircuit> a priority queue is definitely the right solution, but ... here me out... harder
202025-07-04T03:58:38 <phantomcircuit> hear*
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232025-07-04T04:18:53 <phantomcircuit> well actually is it exactly? that's kinda a parallel issue to doing the check/accept block (which writes to disk) in parallel with activatebestchain
242025-07-04T05:04:27 <_aj_> phantomcircuit: doesn't need to be a priority queue, just one queue for blocks and one queue for txs, and you always look at the block queue first?
252025-07-04T05:20:31 <phantomcircuit> _aj_: well it doesn't need to be a priority queue, but it's probably more useful if it is, like certainly we want to prioritize blocks that extend the current tip over ... anything else
262025-07-04T05:23:52 <phantomcircuit> sipa: so how much exactly do we *need* to process a block before handling other messages?
272025-07-04T05:41:14 <_aj_> phantomcircuit: blocks that don't extend the current tip are trivial to process, so don't seem like they should need special casing?
282025-07-04T05:44:23 <phantomcircuit> _aj_: that's not exactly right actually, we do the context independent sanity checks, write the block to disk, and then sometime later read the block from disk when it does extend the tip and... do all those checks again which include calcualteing the merkle root which is quite expensive
292025-07-04T05:44:46 <phantomcircuit> so priority queue could potentially save us doublingg the work we do there
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322025-07-04T05:56:55 <_aj_> phantomcircuit: i guess my thought is that AcceptBlock() would be done as-is, and ActivateBestChain() would be the part that's delegated to the thread/queue?
332025-07-04T05:58:11 <phantomcircuit> _aj_: that's what im doing right now, but i think sipa was suggesting going beyond that and putting the expensive to handle messages into a queue
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352025-07-04T06:00:22 <_aj_> phantomcircuit: i don't think anything in AcceptBlock is "expensive", except maybe in IBD with assumevalid?
362025-07-04T06:01:39 <_aj_> phantomcircuit: not sure i'm following what your goal is exactly
372025-07-04T06:03:39 <phantomcircuit> _aj_: during ibd the msghand thread ends up pegged at 100% cpu usage which is (obviously) a bottleneck
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392025-07-04T06:09:17 <_aj_> phantomcircuit: of which a signifigant fraction is CheckBlock, ContextualCheckBlock duplication in AcceptBlock/ConnectBlock?
402025-07-04T06:09:22 <_aj_> significant
412025-07-04T06:10:28 <_aj_> oh, just CheckBlock, ContextualCheckBlock isn't re-invoked
422025-07-04T06:15:07 <_aj_> phantomcircuit: hmm, no, CheckBlock has an fChecked cache that should early exit?
432025-07-04T06:21:36 <phantomcircuit> _aj_: either way, my goal is to utilitze multiple threads
442025-07-04T06:22:58 <phantomcircuit> a bunch of stuff that's not actually possible
452025-07-04T06:27:31 <phantomcircuit> which isn't going to be trivial here either sinnce activatebestchain holds like... every lock basically
462025-07-04T06:28:45 <phantomcircuit> _aj_: i dont think we write fChecked to disk anywhere?
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492025-07-04T06:57:19 <_aj_> phantomcircuit: no, but should be feasible to retain the CBlock with fChecked set while it's in the queue? or to pass through an "assume_already_checked" flag, and set fChecked manually after reading it?
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592025-07-04T07:38:55 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #32871: New SVG, Icons, PNGs and X PixMaps (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32871
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762025-07-04T08:38:38 <phantomcircuit> _aj_: my entire concept is actually pretty difficult i now realize, i cant write a block to disk without the lock on the chainstatemanager
772025-07-04T08:38:42 <phantomcircuit> which is held by abc
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832025-07-04T09:06:20 <_aj_> phantomcircuit: hmm, i would have thought you "should" be able to do that with just cs_LastBlockFile or so. seems like it's all being implicitly guarded by cs_main at present though
842025-07-04T09:16:15 <TheCharlatan> _aj_ that is my impression too.
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902025-07-04T09:55:54 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #32874: ci: Catch tests corrupting the source directory (master...2507-ci-less-corrupt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32874
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932025-07-04T09:59:18 <_aj_> i suppose you'd need a separate short-lived (reader/writer?) lock for m_block_index for efficient reading ideally.
942025-07-04T10:03:21 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] HowHsu opened pull request #32875: index: Fix missing case in the comment in NextSyncBlock() (master...fix-comment) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32875
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992025-07-04T10:19:59 <phantomcircuit> _aj_: the chainstatemanager lock is just cs_main through a bunnch of indirection
1002025-07-04T10:20:45 <phantomcircuit> so im not even gettinng past the ProcessMessage ::BLOCK prev_block lookup when activatebestchain is running
1012025-07-04T10:21:09 <phantomcircuit> but now im confused because activatebestchain gives up cs_main specifically to avoid freezing things out for too long?
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1032025-07-04T10:25:44 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #32601: test: Fix `system_tests/run_command` test (master...250523-run-comand-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32601
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1172025-07-04T12:25:03 <sipa> phantomcircuit: you can't just skip ABC, because ABC is what updates the tip, and the tip is used to guide what to download from peers
1182025-07-04T12:25:40 <sipa> phantomcircuit: and i think you need to process all of block before processing other messages (from the same peer), including updating the tip
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1242025-07-04T12:40:54 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #32876: refactor: use PSBTOptions for filling and signing (master...2025/07/fill-psbt-struct) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32876
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1342025-07-04T13:18:58 <hacker4web3bitco> bool BaseIndex::Rewind(const CBlockIndex* current_tip, const CBlockIndex* new_tip)
1352025-07-04T13:18:59 <hacker4web3bitco> {
1362025-07-04T13:18:59 <hacker4web3bitco> Â Â assert(current_tip == m_best_block_index);
1372025-07-04T13:19:00 <hacker4web3bitco> Â Â assert(current_tip->GetAncestor(new_tip->nHeight) == new_tip);
1382025-07-04T13:19:00 <hacker4web3bitco> Â Â Â .......
1392025-07-04T13:19:01 <hacker4web3bitco> }
1402025-07-04T13:19:01 <hacker4web3bitco> Hi folks, ask a question. Is the first assert really correct here? I saw the caller BaseIndex::Sync() update m_best_block_index every 30s, rather than on each time it indexes a block, so current_tip may not be equal to m_best_block_index?
1412025-07-04T13:19:45 <hacker4web3bitco> Â Â Â Â Â Â if (pindex_next->pprev != pindex && !Rewind(pindex, pindex_next->pprev)) {
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1732025-07-04T15:53:57 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] HowHsu opened pull request #32878: index: fix wrong assert of current_tip == m_best_block_index (master...rewind) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32878
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2492025-07-04T21:24:27 <phantomcircuit> sipa: is that true during ibd when we have a "best" headers chain?
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2522025-07-04T21:31:14 <phantomcircuit> sipa: conceptually i dont see why we would need to update the tip before processing other messages, but i can see how that might screw things up
2532025-07-04T21:31:22 <phantomcircuit> but can those things be screwed up during ibd?
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