12025-10-16T00:03:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fjahr opened pull request #33636: wallet: Expand MuSig test coverage and follow-ups (master...202510-musig-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33636
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 182025-10-16T01:54:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc opened pull request #33637: refactor: optimize block index comparisons (1.4-7.7x faster) (master...l0rinc/block_index_comparators) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33637
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 602025-10-16T08:02:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vastonus opened pull request #33638: chore: remove repetitive word in src/leveldb/README.md (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33638
 612025-10-16T08:32:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #33638: chore: remove repetitive word in src/leveldb/README.md (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33638
 622025-10-16T08:53:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to 30.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d0f6d9953a15...a14e7b9dee91
 632025-10-16T08:53:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/30.x abcd4c4 Ryan Ofsky: Squashed 'src/ipc/libmultiprocess/' changes from 13424cf2ecc1..a4f929696490
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 662025-10-16T08:53:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33519: Update libmultiprocess subtree in 30.x branch (30.x...pr/subtree-6-v30) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33519
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 722025-10-16T09:46:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #33620: ci: Build ci_native_base image layer (master...2510-ci-base-image) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33620
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 952025-10-16T12:48:59  <bitcoin-git> [leveldb-subtree] fanquake merged pull request #57: doc: fix typos (bitcoin-fork...just_fix_em) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/leveldb-subtree/pull/57
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1012025-10-16T13:20:30  <dviola> hebasto: thanks for looking at my PR, I would be ok with the revert approach and closing my PR
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1042025-10-16T13:21:39  <hebasto> dviola: you can update your PR and the the revert approach
1052025-10-16T13:21:59  <dviola> the revert option is probably more sane since the wayland codepath was added for Qt::WindowStaysOnTopHint (which won't work) anyway
1062025-10-16T13:22:17  <dviola> hebasto: will do!
1072025-10-16T13:22:20  <hebasto> kk
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1202025-10-16T14:21:40  <shiza> hi
1212025-10-16T14:21:51  <sipa> killall -KILL #bitcoin-core-dev
1222025-10-16T14:22:12  <shiza> what is this "a member was suspended" news i'm reading somewhere?
1232025-10-16T14:22:26  <instagibbs> sipa are you threatening me
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1262025-10-16T14:26:37  <shiza> must be fake news
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1282025-10-16T14:32:26  <dviola> hebasto: just pushed the revert
1292025-10-16T14:35:49  <hebasto> dviola: kk
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1312025-10-16T14:45:25  <dviola> I understand the frustration when it comes to wayland restrictiveness, but that's kind of the point
1322025-10-16T14:47:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoincore.org] fanquake opened pull request #1191: Bitcoin Core 28.3 (master...bitcoin_core_28_3) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/1191
1332025-10-16T15:05:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 5 commits to 28.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d70e9c5d1332...ad8b23e58909
1342025-10-16T15:05:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x 1c521ae Ava Chow: ci: Properly include $FILE_ENV in DEPENDS_HASH
1352025-10-16T15:05:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x da5f5de fanquake: doc: update release notes for 28.3
1362025-10-16T15:05:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x 3590bbf fanquake: build: bump version to 28.3
1372025-10-16T15:05:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33613: [28.x] Backport & finalise 28.3 (28.x...28_3_finalise) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33613
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1402025-10-16T15:20:38  <dviola> huh why?
1412025-10-16T15:30:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed tag v28.3: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v28.3
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1462025-10-16T15:39:43  <sipa> dviola: i assume it's a joke (see backlog)
1472025-10-16T15:40:36  <kevkevin> ya sorry I should have added /s but some would assume its part of the command
1482025-10-16T15:50:57  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #33642: doc: archive release notes for v28.3 (master...archive_28_3_relnotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33642
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1502025-10-16T16:00:03  <dviola> sipa: ah heh
1512025-10-16T16:00:24  <achow101> #startmeeting
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1572025-10-16T16:00:38  <janb84> hi
1582025-10-16T16:00:39  <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dzxzg eugenesiegel fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto hodlinator instagibbs janb84 jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure kevkevin laanwj LarryRuane lightlike l0rinc luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild willcl-ark
1592025-10-16T16:00:41  <hebasto> hi
1602025-10-16T16:00:44  <TheCharlatan> hi
1612025-10-16T16:00:53  <vasild> hi
1622025-10-16T16:00:58  <furszy> hi
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1642025-10-16T16:01:00  <hodlinator> hi
1652025-10-16T16:01:10  <purpleKarrot> hi
1662025-10-16T16:01:28  <stickies-v> hi
1672025-10-16T16:01:44  <glozow> hi
1682025-10-16T16:01:49  <achow101> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Any last minute ones to add?
1692025-10-16T16:02:09  <b10c> hi
1702025-10-16T16:02:22  <darosior> hi
1712025-10-16T16:02:30  <achow101> #topic Kernel WG Update (TheCharlatan)
1722025-10-16T16:02:39  <TheCharlatan> Got some first ACKs on #30595 this week, looking for some more eyeballs.
1732025-10-16T16:02:42  <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30595 | kernel: Introduce C header API by TheCharlatan · Pull Request #30595 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1742025-10-16T16:02:50  <TheCharlatan> that's all
1752025-10-16T16:03:25  <sipa> hi
1762025-10-16T16:03:28  <achow101> #topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)
1772025-10-16T16:04:16  <sipa> #33157 got merged, thanks for all the reviews!
1782025-10-16T16:04:23  <corebot> sipa: Error: That URL raised <Connection timed out.>
1792025-10-16T16:04:33  <sipa> #33157 got merged, i said
1802025-10-16T16:04:34  <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33157 | cluster mempool: control/optimize TxGraph memory usage by sipa · Pull Request #33157 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1812025-10-16T16:04:52  <sipa> that's pretty much all of txgraph in, apart from a few small things which won't block anything
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1832025-10-16T16:05:19  <sipa> the focus is now #33629, which is a rebased, and reduced version of the older 28676 cluster mempool PR
1842025-10-16T16:05:23  <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33629 | Cluster mempool by sdaftuar · Pull Request #33629 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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1862025-10-16T16:05:36  <abubakarsadiq> hi
1872025-10-16T16:05:46  <sipa> follow-ups have been split off in #33591
1882025-10-16T16:05:48  <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33591 | Cluster mempool followups by sdaftuar · Pull Request #33591 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1892025-10-16T16:05:53  <sipa> Two Weeks(tm)
1902025-10-16T16:06:06  <instagibbs> :)
1912025-10-16T16:06:07  <achow101> woohoo
1922025-10-16T16:06:18  <stickies-v> nice!
1932025-10-16T16:06:29  <kevkevin> hi
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1952025-10-16T16:06:37  <sipa> sdaftuar and I have also been working on some more simulations with historical and less historical data, to do final benchmarks of performance and optimality
1962025-10-16T16:06:50  <cfields> hi
1972025-10-16T16:07:02  <sipa> but i think we're in a really good spot now
1982025-10-16T16:07:07  <instagibbs> sipa this would effect cluster sizes, and number of conflicting clusters, potentially?
1992025-10-16T16:07:14  <instagibbs> but otherwise stay similar approach?
2002025-10-16T16:07:24  <sipa> instagibbs: "this" being what?
2012025-10-16T16:07:47  <instagibbs> > to do final benchmarks of performance and optimality
2022025-10-16T16:07:48  <instagibbs> responding to these benchmarks
2032025-10-16T16:08:15  <abubakarsadiq> are their plans to have an updated bip to 125 indicating the new RBF rules?
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2052025-10-16T16:08:37  <sipa> instagibbs: i think (especially with the prospect of SFL) we'll stick to 64 as max cluster tx count, unless we discover something very unexpected
2062025-10-16T16:08:57  <sipa> abubakarsadiq: i don't think "non-actionable" policies ought to be BIPs
2072025-10-16T16:09:10  <sipa> in the sense that they don't really require anyone to be aware of them
2082025-10-16T16:09:35  <sipa> unlike say TRUC, which aims to provide a specific interface that user software can make use of
2092025-10-16T16:09:58  <abubakarsadiq> Okay, I saw the replacement docs have been updated so that is okay then
2102025-10-16T16:10:12  <sipa> speaking of SFL, i'm about to push a much updated version of #32545
2112025-10-16T16:10:15  <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32545 | Replace cluster linearization algorithm with SFL by sipa · Pull Request #32545 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2122025-10-16T16:11:07  <sipa> but it's largely orthogonal to the actual cluster mempool PRs
2132025-10-16T16:11:41  <glozow> heh. after cluster mempool, we implement less than half of BIP 125
2142025-10-16T16:12:28  <sipa> glozow: it may be worth updating BIP 125 with some color about relevance
2152025-10-16T16:12:36  <glozow> yep
2162025-10-16T16:12:38  <sipa> if the authors/champions agree
2172025-10-16T16:12:40  <sipa> that's it for me
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2192025-10-16T16:13:24  <achow101> #topic MuSig2 WG Update (achow101)
2202025-10-16T16:13:31  <sipa> it's merged!?
2212025-10-16T16:13:38  <achow101> #29675 was merged!
2222025-10-16T16:13:42  <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29675 | wallet: Be able to receive and spend inputs involving MuSig2 aggregate keys by achow101 · Pull Request #29675 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2232025-10-16T16:13:43  <sipa> woohoo
2242025-10-16T16:13:46  <glozow> musig to my ears!
2252025-10-16T16:13:57  <achow101> fjahr opened a followups pr: #33636
2262025-10-16T16:13:58  <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33636 | wallet: Expand MuSig test coverage and follow-ups by fjahr · Pull Request #33636 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2272025-10-16T16:14:11  <achow101> but I think this working group is done :D
2282025-10-16T16:15:00  <achow101> Any other topics to discuss this week?
2292025-10-16T16:17:38  <achow101> #endmeeting
2302025-10-16T16:17:38  <corebot> achow101: Meeting ended at 2025-10-16T16:17+0000
2312025-10-16T16:17:39  <corebot> achow101: Raw log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-10-16_16_00.log.json
2322025-10-16T16:17:40  <corebot> achow101: Formatted log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-10-16_16_00.log.html
2332025-10-16T16:17:41  <corebot> achow101: Minutes: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-10-16_16_00.html
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2352025-10-16T16:19:06  <jonatack> hi
2362025-10-16T16:19:13  <jonatack> good meeting short meeting
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2402025-10-16T16:23:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e14451ac8733...4371740bebfa
2412025-10-16T16:23:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ceea24b fanquake: doc: archive release notes for v28.3
2422025-10-16T16:23:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4371740 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33642: doc: archive release notes for v28.3
2432025-10-16T16:23:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33642: doc: archive release notes for v28.3 (master...archive_28_3_relnotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33642
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2632025-10-16T17:45:51  <dviola> hebasto, pablomartin4btc: I think this "bringToFront" function should go away, bitcoin core shouldn't have to deal with window management
2642025-10-16T17:46:04  <dviola> I mean, it's not bitcoin core's job to deal with this
2652025-10-16T17:47:00  <dviola> it's just going to add pointless bugs like the ones we've been trying to fix
2662025-10-16T17:48:40  <dviola> I understand not opening duplicated transaction details (so that the user doesn't get confused) but that sounds like a separate issue
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2682025-10-16T17:50:01  <hebasto> dviola: feel free to open a pr :)
2692025-10-16T17:54:17  <dviola> will look into it
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2712025-10-16T17:58:40  <dviola> hebasto: I think your call to revert was good, so for now I think that's ok
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2742025-10-16T17:59:27  <dviola> will look into the other things later, like the duplicated transaction stuff
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2762025-10-16T18:02:56  <dviola> window managers already have the option to set rules, so bitcoin core trying to do that job is just going to make things more complicated
2772025-10-16T18:03:00  <dviola> I think
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2842025-10-16T18:30:12  <dviola> or let's just keep the function small (if it's going to stay)
2852025-10-16T18:35:36  <dviola> bringToFront also assumes I use a floating window manager (I'm using tiling)
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2942025-10-16T19:01:25  <dviola> most people use floating, so it makes sense in a way
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2962025-10-16T19:10:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4371740bebfa...e744fd1249bf
2972025-10-16T19:10:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f21162d fanquake: Squashed 'src/leveldb/' changes from aba469ad6a..cad64b151d
2982025-10-16T19:10:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 54ffe3d fanquake: Update leveldb subtree to latest master
2992025-10-16T19:10:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e744fd1 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33641: Update leveldb subtree to latest master
3002025-10-16T19:10:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33641: Update leveldb subtree to latest master (master...leveldb_subtree_update) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33641
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