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342026-01-16T07:17:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] tboy1337 opened pull request #34314: wallet: Fix MaxSatisfactionWeight calculation for Taproot descriptors (master...fix-tr-descriptor-weight) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34314
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412026-01-16T07:40:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maximtea64 opened pull request #34315: Update README.CLIWONtea (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34315
422026-01-16T07:40:30 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] DrahtBot closed pull request #34315: . (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34315
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672026-01-16T12:00:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #34317: fuzz: Exclude too expensive inputs in descriptor_parse targets (master...2601-fuzz-desc-parse) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34317
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712026-01-16T12:47:34 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] sedited opened pull request #192: Update make-tag for cmake (main...patch_make-tag) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/pull/192
722026-01-16T12:48:10 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] sedited closed pull request #192: Update make-tag for cmake (main...patch_make-tag) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/pull/192
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822026-01-16T13:49:54 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #34318: contrib: Revert "verify-commits sha1 exceptions" (master...2601-contrib-verify-commits) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34318
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842026-01-16T13:50:23 <BlueMatt[m]> has anyone played around with radicale? we're (LDK) getting really tired of github being broken (unicorn/503s all the time) let alone flaky and their apparent increased desire to charge money. it seems something decentralized where things like comments are authenticated would be a big win in terms of removing third-party trust too, but curious if anyone has played with it/thinks its production-ready.
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872026-01-16T13:59:32 <sipa> radicle, you mean?
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892026-01-16T14:00:55 <sipa> i've heard the name, but never played with it
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912026-01-16T14:07:32 <dodo> c
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932026-01-16T14:16:35 <BlueMatt[m]> sorry yes lol
942026-01-16T14:16:48 <BlueMatt[m]> radicale is great, but unrelated...
952026-01-16T14:19:20 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #34319: Drop some `IWYU pragma: export` and document IWYU usage (master...260116-iwyu-export) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34319
962026-01-16T14:20:05 <BlueMatt[m]> only real question i have is if they have any kind of ability to moderate comments, if they do (eg if we can just set up some automated "please go to this website and pass a captcha/deposit 10 sats to comment" thing) then istm very worth trying for a few months
972026-01-16T14:20:20 <BlueMatt[m]> otherwise you're gonna get flooded by bots and garbage
982026-01-16T14:20:50 <flooded> you rang?
992026-01-16T14:23:37 <BlueMatt[m]> also i guess whether you can comment/open issues via the web ui or if you have to use the tui
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1012026-01-16T14:30:59 <BlueMatt[m]> ah you cant allow randos to comment via the web interface, but you can run an instance locally and then comment via the web. bleh so close. nevermind
1022026-01-16T14:37:38 <darosior> cc laanwj
1032026-01-16T14:37:53 <darosior> i know she's been keeping track of radicle for a while
1042026-01-16T14:38:32 <BlueMatt[m]> yea, it seems like they've got most of the big pieces in place but are short a few major items (at least the above two) before its really something to switch to.
1052026-01-16T14:43:09 <BlueMatt[m]> looks like they have a draft spec for separating users and nodes but first have to do that then you could imagine a webui that is more traditional github-like for those who dont want to do cli tools
1062026-01-16T14:43:14 <BlueMatt[m]> so probably using it is blocked on that
1072026-01-16T14:43:23 <BlueMatt[m]> specifically https://radicle.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/369876-RIPs/topic/Agent.20Repository/with/561870858
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1102026-01-16T14:58:32 <laanwj> <darosior> "i know she's been keeping..." <- there was a time i was actively watching radicle. at the time it was far from usable for any kind of real project with many contributors. it's been a while though
1112026-01-16T14:59:13 <laanwj> also they started using some kind of block chain token, which made me mostly lose interest
1122026-01-16T15:01:02 <laanwj> they do have a desktop version
1132026-01-16T15:01:13 <darosior> oh yikes
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1152026-01-16T15:04:16 <laanwj> according to the faq (searching for "token") https://radicle.xyz/faq they say they only use it for financing development. there were times they wanted to integrate it into the software itself, i'm glad they reconsidered
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1352026-01-16T16:17:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc opened pull request #34320: coins: replace remaining `HaveCoin` calls with `GetCoin` (master...l0rinc/remove-HaveCoin) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34320
1362026-01-16T16:21:32 <laanwj> Matt Corallo: as for more decentralized git hosting solutions, there's also https://tangled.org/ which is kind of popular nowadays. i don't know any details
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1472026-01-16T17:13:08 <BlueMatt[m]> <laanwj> "also they started using some..." <- Afaiu they basically issued a token then took the money to fund development and have now removed any connection to the token lol. Kinda scammy but I guess thatâs one way to fund developmentâ¦.
1482026-01-16T17:15:41 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack closed pull request #32116: contrib: refactor: dedup deserialization routines in utxo-to-sqlite script (master...202503-contrib-utxo_to_sqlite-dedup_deser_functions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32116
1492026-01-16T17:15:44 <BlueMatt[m]> <laanwj> "Matt Corallo: as for more..." <- Ugh looks more federated than decentralized. Would be nice to avoid just having a hosted service thatâs federatedâ¦doesnât seem as exciting
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1532026-01-16T17:21:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited pushed tag v29.3rc1: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v29.3rc1
1542026-01-16T17:30:14 <fjahr> BlueMatt[m]: Have you considered self-hosting gitlab? It's a bit overkill for sure but works pretty well if someone is willing to do the maintenance, probably doable with 1-2h per month.
1552026-01-16T17:31:00 <fanquake> Can someone kick the CI on #34036?
1562026-01-16T17:31:02 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/34036 | contrib: update macOS SDK to Xcode-26.1.1-17B100 by fanquake · Pull Request #34036 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1572026-01-16T17:31:09 <fanquake> New SDK should be up now
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1612026-01-16T17:48:20 <fanquake> Guess Qt doesnât want to build against the new SDK ð¥²
1622026-01-16T17:48:28 <fanquake> Will investigate next week
1632026-01-16T17:50:59 <hebasto> my guess is that bumping Qt to 6.10 will help
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1672026-01-16T18:02:24 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0ffb20dee178...81bf4209e9dc
1682026-01-16T18:02:25 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab8bc0 MarcoFalke: contrib: Revert "verify-commits sha1 exceptions"
1692026-01-16T18:02:25 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa38ffa MarcoFalke: contrib: [refactor] Use shorter read_text from pathlib
1702026-01-16T18:02:25 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 81bf420 Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#34318: contrib: Revert "verify-commits sha1 exceptio...
1712026-01-16T18:02:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto merged pull request #34318: contrib: Revert "verify-commits sha1 exceptions" (master...2601-contrib-verify-commits) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34318
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1772026-01-16T18:09:55 <BlueMatt[m]> <fjahr> "Matt Corallo: Have you considere..." <- probably more likely gitea than gitlab, looks cleaner and much simpler to self-host, but I'm wayyyyy more excited to use something that has built-in cryptographic authentication and redundancy than just go self-host a github replacement.
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1792026-01-16T18:10:27 <BlueMatt[m]> I already hate enough that ACKs aren't in any way authenticated aside from "github says they came from someone with the right cookie"
1802026-01-16T18:11:04 <BlueMatt[m]> something where you can do reviews offline and sync them later natively is also a really cool win for devs that want it (but requiring it for everyone to open an issue wouldn't really be okay)
1812026-01-16T18:12:05 <BlueMatt[m]> in theory radicle looks like nearly exactly what i want from a "source forge" (as they call it), except for the above issues
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1852026-01-16T18:28:12 <sipa> it looks designed for a situation where every contributor runs their own radicle node, so you can use node key as user identifier, and give permission based on those?
1862026-01-16T18:28:52 <sipa> but it sounds like you're looking for something with a more social aspect, where external contributors can interact with the project too
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1922026-01-16T18:32:51 <BlueMatt[m]> sipa: yes, there appears to be a proposed spec to disentangle the node-id from the person doing the action, so that you can use the same identity across devices.
1932026-01-16T18:33:23 <BlueMatt[m]> from there, it seems like a relatively simple leap to have a web ui that allows people to create identities and just interact via a web interface
1942026-01-16T18:33:59 <BlueMatt[m]> I don't care toooo much if people can open PRs without running some software (though it would be nice!), but losing the ability for people to easily open an issue seems like a major loss
1952026-01-16T18:34:32 <BlueMatt[m]> I suppose you could always wire something up where they just send an email and it automatically creates an issue under some bot account, but then you have to do a ton of work to let them reply to further interaction? kinda meh
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1982026-01-16T18:35:54 <BlueMatt[m]> but at a high level it would be nice to move off of github onto something decentralized where contributors can do the things they want to do locally and have it all cryptographically signed and offline-but-synced, but also let those who just want to do more drive-by contributions do so in a more traditional manner (bonus points if its via github and just bridged to the other platform!)
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2002026-01-16T18:36:50 <BlueMatt[m]> even moving to a self-hosted platform has the major disadvantage (or advantage, depending on the project lol) that opening an issue requires someone signing up for yet another account which can definitely prevent issues from being reported.
2012026-01-16T18:37:46 <BlueMatt[m]> but if radicle had a user option it would be a pretty trivial patch to just let people submit issues after passing a recaptcha check or whatever, which would be even better cause no account needed (and you just store a cookie to let them reply as long as its the same machine)
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2112026-01-16T19:04:03 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] benediktjohannes opened pull request #34321: 3x the same typo (I'm sorry, I don't speak French and I don't know wh⦠(master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34321
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2232026-01-16T19:37:11 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] andrewtoth opened pull request #34322: node: Persist private broadcast transactions over node restarts (master...andrew/persist-private-broadcast) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34322
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2262026-01-16T19:46:04 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #34321: 3x the same typo (I'm sorry, I don't speak French and I don't know wh⦠(master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34321
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2432026-01-16T21:20:40 <eugenesiegel> I need to reset the global rng between fuzz iterations without creating a new TestingSetup every time, is it acceptable to call MakeRandDeterministicDANGEROUS after I've already called it during init?
2442026-01-16T21:28:21 <sipa> isn't it reset automatically?
2452026-01-16T21:29:40 <eugenesiegel> Oh huh it is reset in SeedRandomStateForTest at the start, I must have a bug somewhere.
2462026-01-16T21:30:41 <sipa> i think there is an exception for strong randomness (like used for generating private keys)
2472026-01-16T21:30:52 <sipa> that is not overridden in fuzz/test mode
2482026-01-16T21:34:21 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] b-l-u-e opened pull request #34323: test: Add comprehensive tests for GetNewChangeDestination (master...test-wallet-getnewchangedestination) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34323
2492026-01-16T21:35:03 <eugenesiegel> Oh, I could have been more clear. I'm doing a reset similar to how process_message(s) resets the chainman with ResetChainman, except I make a new mempool as well. I have to reset the global rng at the end of the test before I make a new mempool because of the SaltedTxidHasher / SaltedWtxidHasher
2502026-01-16T21:37:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #34324: Add utxo_to_csv.py tool (master...202601_dumpcsv) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34324
2512026-01-16T21:40:48 <eugenesiegel> If I don't reset the rng at the end of the test, then I get non-determinism in the next iterations since these hashers are seeded with values from a "dirty" rng
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2632026-01-16T23:00:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] b-l-u-e closed pull request #34323: test: Add comprehensive tests for GetNewChangeDestination (master...test-wallet-getnewchangedestination) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34323
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