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92026-03-12T01:25:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] w0xlt opened pull request #34811: doc: update cjdns.md for current cjdns installation and peering (master...update-cjdns-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34811
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122026-03-12T01:31:10 <bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] epicleafies opened pull request #534: Default/Tor proxy settings persistence and tests (qt6...proxy-settings) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/pull/534
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142026-03-12T01:51:41 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] w0xlt opened pull request #34812: net: advertise CJDNS addresses when `-externalip` disables discovery (master...fix-33471-cjdns-externalip) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34812
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202026-03-12T02:02:52 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] davidgumberg opened pull request #34813: qa: Add lock order annotation for `TxMempool::cs` (master...2026-03-11-txmempoolcslockorder) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34813
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382026-03-12T05:56:13 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 5 commits to 31.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b97abdcdf139...d3737769caac
392026-03-12T05:56:14 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/31.x 2a5b96e Ava Chow: build: bump to 31.0rc1
402026-03-12T05:56:14 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/31.x 62716a8 Ava Chow: doc: Generate manpages for 31.0rc1
412026-03-12T05:56:14 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/31.x 88e21e5 Ava Chow: examples: Generate example bitcoin.conf for 31.0rc1
422026-03-12T05:56:15 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #34795: [31.x] Bump to 31.0rc1 (31.x...bump-31.0rc1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34795
432026-03-12T05:57:16 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed tag v31.0rc1: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v31.0rc1
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512026-03-12T06:44:07 <bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko pushed 4 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/compare/d00c4f891e57...a39e31a912bb
522026-03-12T06:44:08 <bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main bb5d576 delete_nonreduced_inputs script: Delete fuzz inputs
532026-03-12T06:44:08 <bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main 7f41a31 delete_nonreduced_inputs script: Reduced inputs for afl-cmin
542026-03-12T06:44:08 <bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main a606c66 delete_nonreduced_inputs script: Reduced inputs for fuzzer
552026-03-12T06:47:10 <bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko force pushed 0 commit to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/compare/a39e31a912bb...d00c4f891e57
562026-03-12T06:58:39 <bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko opened pull request #263: Delete nonreduced fuzz inputs (main...main) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/263
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612026-03-12T07:16:19 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #34814: lint: Temporarily revert to vulture==2.14 (master...2603-ci-lint) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34814
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732026-03-12T08:44:00 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e98d36715eac...2efb8c44bbfa
742026-03-12T08:44:00 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ec4ec91 Sebastian Falbesoner: kernel: doc: explain return value for `btck_WriteBytes` callback
752026-03-12T08:44:01 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2efb8c4 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#34807: kernel: doc: explain return value for `btck_W...
762026-03-12T08:44:02 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #34807: kernel: doc: explain return value for `btck_WriteBytes` callback (master...202603-kernel-document-btck_WriteBytes-retval) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34807
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792026-03-12T08:53:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2efb8c44bbfa...51a4dc5515fd
802026-03-12T08:53:38 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b267efc Sebastian Falbesoner: rpc, net: completely remove `startingheight` field of `getpeerinfo` RPC
812026-03-12T08:53:38 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 745ad94 Sebastian Falbesoner: p2p: remove m_starting_height field from node state (only show once in deb...
822026-03-12T08:53:38 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 51a4dc5 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#34796: rpc, net: remove `startingheight` field of `g...
832026-03-12T08:53:41 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited merged pull request #34796: rpc, net: remove `startingheight` field of `getpeerinfo` RPC and from node state (master...2026-remove-starting_height_field) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34796
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912026-03-12T09:41:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/51a4dc5515fd...1a2f4e9750db
922026-03-12T09:41:46 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faae981 MarcoFalke: lint: Temporarily revert to vulture==2.14
932026-03-12T09:41:47 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1a2f4e9 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#34814: lint: Temporarily revert to vulture==2.14
942026-03-12T09:41:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #34814: lint: Temporarily revert to vulture==2.14 (master...2603-ci-lint) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34814
952026-03-12T09:43:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] willcl-ark opened pull request #34815: ci: bump cirruslabs actions versions (master...bump-cirruslabs-actions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34815
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972026-03-12T09:55:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1a2f4e9750db...44ddc9c93f0c
982026-03-12T09:55:18 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2e8072e Sebastian Falbesoner: rpc: support writing UTXO set dump (`dumptxoutset`) to a named pipe
992026-03-12T09:55:19 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 61a5460 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: add test for utxo-to-sqlite conversion using named pipe
1002026-03-12T09:55:19 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b19caee Sebastian Falbesoner: doc: add release note for #31560 (named pipe support for `dumptxoutset` RP...
1012026-03-12T09:55:20 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #31560: rpc: allow writing UTXO set to a named pipe (master...202412-dumptxoutset-allow_write_to_named_pipe) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31560
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1082026-03-12T10:04:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] fanquake pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/compare/3dec1b256198...4e6213aa556e
1092026-03-12T10:04:57 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin-maintainer-tools/main a425024 Ava Chow: github-merge: Optionally override the merge author name
1102026-03-12T10:04:58 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin-maintainer-tools/main 4e6213a merge-script: Merge bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools#194: github-merge: Optionally ...
1112026-03-12T10:04:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] fanquake merged pull request #194: github-merge: Optionally override the merge author name (main...optional-merge-script-name) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/pull/194
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1132026-03-12T10:09:10 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/44ddc9c93f0c...ab642773757c
1142026-03-12T10:09:11 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b83de7f stickies-v: validation: remove sentinel block from ConnectTrace
1152026-03-12T10:09:11 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2f8f2e9 stickies-v: validation: remove ConnectTrace wrapper class
1162026-03-12T10:09:11 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ab64277 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#34708: validation: refactor: remove ConnectTrace
1172026-03-12T10:09:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #34708: validation: refactor: remove ConnectTrace (master...2026-03/connecttrace-rvalue) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34708
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1192026-03-12T10:17:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ab642773757c...e19df67332df
1202026-03-12T10:17:29 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa6497b MarcoFalke: build: Set AUTHOR_WARNING on warnings
1212026-03-12T10:17:30 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e19df67 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33144: build: Set AUTHOR_WARNING on warnings
1222026-03-12T10:17:30 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33144: build: Set AUTHOR_WARNING on warnings (master...2508-bld-warn-dev) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33144
1232026-03-12T10:23:08 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e19df67332df...136132e075fa
1242026-03-12T10:23:08 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master be6d24e Hodlinator: guix: Make guix-clean less destructive
1252026-03-12T10:23:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 136132e merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#34776: guix: Make guix-clean more careful
1262026-03-12T10:23:10 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #34776: guix: Make guix-clean more careful (master...2026/03/guix_clean_destructive) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34776
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1282026-03-12T10:39:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] DrahtBot closed pull request #34628: p2p: Replace per-peer transaction rate-limiting with global rate limits (master...202602-mempool-invtosend) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34628
1292026-03-12T10:40:02 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] DrahtBot reopened pull request #34628: p2p: Replace per-peer transaction rate-limiting with global rate limits (master...202602-mempool-invtosend) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34628
1302026-03-12T10:46:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #34726: [wip] ignore 2603 ci empty (master...2603-ci-empty) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34726
1312026-03-12T10:46:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko reopened pull request #34726: [wip] ignore 2603 ci empty (master...2603-ci-empty) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34726
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1342026-03-12T11:19:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/136132e075fa...56983a4d4d19
1352026-03-12T11:20:00 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9a968ad will: ci: bump cirruslabs actions versions
1362026-03-12T11:20:00 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 56983a4 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#34815: ci: bump cirruslabs actions versions
1372026-03-12T11:20:01 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #34815: ci: bump cirruslabs actions versions (master...bump-cirruslabs-actions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34815
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1422026-03-12T11:43:27 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] fanquake pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/compare/4e6213aa556e...1e004c3979b5
1432026-03-12T11:43:28 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin-maintainer-tools/main 97e20ba Ava Chow: backport: Allow backporting from branches other than master
1442026-03-12T11:43:28 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin-maintainer-tools/main 1e004c3 merge-script: Merge bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools#190: backport: Allow backporti...
1452026-03-12T11:43:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] fanquake merged pull request #190: backport: Allow backporting from branches other than master (main...backport-main-branch) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/pull/190
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1552026-03-12T12:35:11 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #34816: ci: Remove vulture (master...2603-ci-lint-less) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34816
1562026-03-12T12:45:08 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/56983a4d4d19...e31ab8040fc8
1572026-03-12T12:45:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d236415 Fabian Jahr: rpc: Refactor gettxspendingprevout to be easier to parse
1582026-03-12T12:45:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e31ab80 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#34749: rpc: Refactor gettxspendingprevout to be easi...
1592026-03-12T12:45:11 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited merged pull request #34749: rpc: Refactor gettxspendingprevout to be easier to parse (master...2026-02-24539-refactor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34749
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1842026-03-12T14:32:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Emzy opened pull request #34817: Update script name in SDK generation instructions (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34817
1852026-03-12T14:35:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Emzy closed pull request #34817: doc: update script name in SDK generation instructions (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34817
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1932026-03-12T15:06:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e31ab8040fc8...5608b8ce9e0f
1942026-03-12T15:06:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ecb5ce6 stratospher: test: fix addr relay test silent pass and wrong peerinfo index
1952026-03-12T15:06:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7ee8c0a stratospher: test: protect outbound connection from eviction in getaddr_test
1962026-03-12T15:06:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 57bfa86 stratospher: test: use static methods and clarify comment in addr_relay
1972026-03-12T15:06:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #34750: test: fix addr relay test silently passing and other improvements (master...2026_03_tests_addr_relay) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34750
1982026-03-12T15:08:47 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc closed pull request #33270: stabilize translations by reverting old ids by text content (master...l0rinc/stabilize-translations) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33270
1992026-03-12T15:17:08 <bitcoin-git> [gui] johnny9 opened pull request #933: [DRAFT] Introduce Qt test automation bridge and gui functional tests (master...qt-test-bridge) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/933
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2052026-03-12T16:00:01 <fjahr> #startmeeting
2062026-03-12T16:00:01 <corebot> fjahr: Meeting started at 2026-03-12T16:00+0000
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2122026-03-12T16:00:18 <janb84> hi
2132026-03-12T16:00:19 <fjahr> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dzxzg eugenesiegel fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto hodlinator instagibbs janb84 jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure kevkevin laanwj LarryRuane lightlike l0rinc luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sliv3r__ sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild
2142026-03-12T16:00:19 <fjahr> willcl-ark
2152026-03-12T16:00:20 <johnny9dev> hi
2162026-03-12T16:00:20 <achow101> hi
2172026-03-12T16:00:25 <sr_gi> hi
2182026-03-12T16:00:33 <hebasto> hi
2192026-03-12T16:00:38 <dergoegge> hi
2202026-03-12T16:00:39 <sipa> bikehi
2212026-03-12T16:00:40 <_aj_> hi
2222026-03-12T16:00:41 <sipa> hi
2232026-03-12T16:00:44 <fjahr> There is one pre-proposed meeting topic this week. Any last minute ones to add?
2242026-03-12T16:00:53 <brunoerg> hi
2252026-03-12T16:01:06 <l0rinc> hi
2262026-03-12T16:01:17 <theStack> hi
2272026-03-12T16:01:18 <kanzure> hi
2282026-03-12T16:01:28 <furszy> hi
2292026-03-12T16:01:31 <andrewtoth_> hi
2302026-03-12T16:01:38 <pinheadmz> yo
2312026-03-12T16:01:46 <nymius> hi
2322026-03-12T16:01:51 <fjahr> Ok, starting with the WGs!
2332026-03-12T16:01:53 <fjahr> #topic Fuzzing WG Update (dergoegge)
2342026-03-12T16:01:53 <hodlinator> hi
2352026-03-12T16:01:58 <eugenesiegel> hi
2362026-03-12T16:02:25 <dergoegge> nothing from my side
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2382026-03-12T16:02:55 <fjahr> #topic Benchmarking WG Update (l0rinc, andrewtoth)
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2402026-03-12T16:03:12 <l0rinc> nothing urgent from my side
2412026-03-12T16:03:29 <andrewtoth_> #34576 was merged. #31132 has been rebased with all split out PRs completed. Thanks everyone for your reviews and benchmarks!
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2432026-03-12T16:03:33 <corebot> andrewtoth_: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 32KB.
2442026-03-12T16:03:35 <corebot> andrewtoth_: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 32KB.
2452026-03-12T16:03:42 <dzxzg2> hi
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2472026-03-12T16:03:56 <andrewtoth_> I'm considering reopening #31132 as a fresh PR since there are over 500 comments and many are no longer relevant.
2482026-03-12T16:03:57 <corebot> andrewtoth_: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 32KB.
2492026-03-12T16:04:07 <andrewtoth_> That's it from me.
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2512026-03-12T16:04:29 <andrewtoth_> What's wrong with corebot?
2522026-03-12T16:04:37 <_aj_> github rate limits probably?
2532026-03-12T16:04:45 <achow101> It's not having a good day I guess
2542026-03-12T16:05:11 <_aj_> (at least i'm constantly getting rate limits when not logged in, for no apparent reason)
2552026-03-12T16:05:17 <fjahr> depressed from all the ai slop
2562026-03-12T16:05:20 <fjahr> johnny9dev: you wanted yours reactivated, right? Please edit the WGs wiki page, thanks!
2572026-03-12T16:05:27 <fjahr> #topic QML GUI WG Update (johnny9dev)
2582026-03-12T16:05:31 <johnny9dev> yes
2592026-03-12T16:05:36 <johnny9dev> For gui-qml I have been focused on cleaning up any dependency to the qt source code. Iâve also been working on the test coverage and automation frameworks. I am just about done with both and will be closing out the related issues on that. I will then begin PRing chunks of features next week along with Luke (epicleafies). The target features are all listed in the projectâs Issues. I also plan on spending time to learn Figma Make
2602026-03-12T16:05:36 <johnny9dev> and Figmaâs MCP server. Iâve seen some real world cases of it being very effective the last two weeks and need to explore this for gui-qml.
2612026-03-12T16:05:54 <johnny9dev> For gui, dergoegge asked if the test bridge would work for qt so I some time porting over the test automation bridge. Itâs still a bit rough and needs some more validation/review but I started the draft on bitcoin-core/gui#933. Interested in what people think about this approach. Flakiness can be a problem initially with end to end tests so effort will need to be done to make sure itâs all solid before really moving forward with
2622026-03-12T16:05:54 <johnny9dev> something like this. Animations, process initializing, and timings can be tricky but this shouldnât be much worse than what yâall already deal with for the bitcoind functional tests.
2632026-03-12T16:05:55 <corebot> johnny9dev: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 32KB.
2642026-03-12T16:06:00 <kanzure> does figma export to qml?
2652026-03-12T16:06:14 <johnny9dev> you can use the mcp bridge to help translate figma to code
2662026-03-12T16:06:20 <dergoegge> johnny9dev: cool, I'll have a look at that
2672026-03-12T16:06:59 <johnny9dev> epicleafies has been helping with qml also
2682026-03-12T16:07:25 <johnny9dev> epicleafies: can you give status?
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2702026-03-12T16:08:03 <epicleafies> Yeah, I've finished the debug log page and am working on the proxy settings to persist
2712026-03-12T16:08:59 <johnny9dev> he also fully completed peers ban/disconnect including an end to end automated gui test with it
2722026-03-12T16:09:22 <johnny9dev> i think that will probably be the most complicated one too
2732026-03-12T16:09:26 <johnny9dev> with multiple nodes
2742026-03-12T16:10:14 <johnny9dev> i think that is all
2752026-03-12T16:11:19 <fjahr> I'm not seeing any of the other WG chairs.
2762026-03-12T16:11:25 <fjahr> #proposedmeetingtopic logging system (_aj_)
2772026-03-12T16:11:26 <corebot> fjahr: Unknown command: #proposedmeetingtopic
2782026-03-12T16:11:30 <fjahr> sorry
2792026-03-12T16:11:33 <_aj_> There's about a dozen open PRs/issues about changing the
2802026-03-12T16:11:33 <_aj_> logging API, many of which have been open for almost two years now. Here's a table: https://gist.github.com/ajtowns/ff6247953437270ce81998bc0f7d6739 Many of these changes seem to me to make things substantially worse for working on bitcoin node software, and at this point it feels like a denial of service attack: "oh, you disagreed with this PR? well, we'll keep that one open as a sword of
2812026-03-12T16:11:33 <_aj_> damocles, but also, how about this slightly different PR with slightly different motivations?" which just leaves me giving what feel like endless "Concept NACKs" and getting more frustrated. There are still a couple of followups to #28318 that I'd like to get in (namely #34038, and once that's done, switching the map of categories to an atomic bitfield), so I'd rather keep being somewhat involved,
2822026-03-12T16:11:33 <_aj_> but this is pretty exhausting. So I'd really like it if folks who are a bit more dispassionate on the issue could get involved and express opinions on whether any of the proposed changes are actually valuable/desired, and ideally for the number of open proposals to get trimmed down a lot.
2832026-03-12T16:11:35 <corebot> _aj_: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 32KB.
2842026-03-12T16:11:36 <fjahr> #topic logging system
2852026-03-12T16:11:37 <corebot> _aj_: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 32KB.
2862026-03-12T16:12:01 <achow101> (will debug the bot after the meeting)
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2882026-03-12T16:12:26 <_aj_> (fin)
2892026-03-12T16:12:54 <sipa> #proposedmeetingtopic I saw release notes editing for 31.0 moved to the wiki (https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/31.0-Release-Notes-Draft), it's probably good for everyone to have a look over that and add things that users ought to see
2902026-03-12T16:12:54 <corebot> sipa: Unknown command: #proposedmeetingtopic
2912026-03-12T16:13:09 <sipa> (not really a topic, just wanted to mention)
2922026-03-12T16:13:19 <_aj_> (did anyone actually announce the branch off happened btw?)
2932026-03-12T16:13:48 <sipa> Day changed to 12 Mar 2026
2942026-03-12T16:13:48 <sipa> 01:56:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 5 commits to 31.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b97abdcdf139...d3737769caac
2952026-03-12T16:14:40 <achow101> _aj_: how many major opinions on logging direction are there? 2?
2962026-03-12T16:15:04 <fanquake> 3 I think
2972026-03-12T16:15:08 <fjahr> there seem to be three PR authors
2982026-03-12T16:15:13 <fanquake> depending on the part of the codebase
2992026-03-12T16:15:24 <fjahr> (of currently active prs)
3002026-03-12T16:15:52 <dzxzg2> if it's possible to express succinctly, what are the different goals / usecases / motivations for changing the interface?
3012026-03-12T16:16:43 <_aj_> i think there's a few different ones about the kernel (if you have multiple validation objects running, can their logs be separated; if you have multiple loggers and one validation state, can they get different info); there's a desire to pass different amounts of state to the Log*() functions (some or all of wallet name, category, level), and there's sometimes a desire to have all messages have a
3022026-03-12T16:16:43 <_aj_> category (LogInfo(NET, "connected to new outbound"))
3032026-03-12T16:19:10 <fanquake> Rough count but I think there's about ~15 different logging related refactors / PRs open at the moment
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3052026-03-12T16:20:21 <dergoegge> Some of the kernel related logging questions seem worthwhile solving but idk about the naming and calling conventions (that just seems like an endless pit to pour time into)
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3072026-03-12T16:21:16 <_aj_> the kernel stuff impacts the calling convention -- if you want logging from CheckBlock to go two different places, you have to pass in the two different logging systems into the LogDebug(..) call, eg
3082026-03-12T16:21:40 <sipa> what does "two different places" mean?
3092026-03-12T16:22:19 <_aj_> if you're running two different ChainstateManager's in the same process, and want to log the work they're doing / the failures they have independently
3102026-03-12T16:23:36 <l0rinc> are these logging change suggestions fundamentally mutually exclusive?
3112026-03-12T16:23:40 <sipa> i'm confused about why that would be the case, or why the code in question would know about it at all
3122026-03-12T16:23:45 <sipa> so i'll need to look at the PRs
3132026-03-12T16:23:53 <dzxzg2> l0rinc: +1
3142026-03-12T16:24:02 <_aj_> #34062 is possibly a good start
3152026-03-12T16:24:04 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/34062 | RFC: separate kernel logging infrastructure · Issue #34062 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3162026-03-12T16:24:11 <_aj_> welcome back corebot
3172026-03-12T16:24:15 <abubakarsadiq> hi
3182026-03-12T16:24:27 <l0rinc> is this related to different wallets and processes logging to different output files?
3192026-03-12T16:25:33 <sedited> fwiw I think this is a nice to have, but the discussions and time sunk into logging as opposed to making things actually more useful seems skewed. I'd be happy with a simple albeit imperfect solution for now.
3202026-03-12T16:25:44 <sedited> l0rinc I think that is orthogonal
3212026-03-12T16:26:41 <ryanofsky> yeah i think we can easily make progress on this stuff, by just focusing on logging prs that are noncontroversial
3222026-03-12T16:28:13 <_aj_> ryanofsky: closing the near-alternatives, and just keeping the "best" of them open would be a win in my view (best==your opinion after taking feedback into account, not necessarily least-controversial/most-likely-to-be-acceptable; imo anyway)
3232026-03-12T16:29:10 <dzxzg2> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_forks#Pages_of_the_same_type_on_the_same_subject
3242026-03-12T16:30:18 <bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko opened pull request #264: mv ./delete_nonreduced_fuzz_inputs.sh from maintainertools repo (main...2603-bash) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/264
3252026-03-12T16:30:20 <l0rinc> It seems to me the logging problems aren't obvious to most of us, it seems to be mostly working already - can we start with listing the exact problems?
3262026-03-12T16:30:21 <fjahr> Maybe ask for review here again when there is a clear point were more feedback is needed. Hard to motivate yourself to go through the full list and find that for yourself, IMO.
3272026-03-12T16:31:43 <ryanofsky> i guess my general feeling is it is not good to spend time have meta-debates about what code should be reviewed and generally peole should just review things they are interested, and maintain prs they are interested in maintaining
3282026-03-12T16:32:25 <ryanofsky> if some progress is being blocked, but i am not aware of that happening
3292026-03-12T16:32:47 <fjahr> Seems like the details of logging can continue to be discussed after the meeting. Is there anything else to discuss that should be in the meeting?
3302026-03-12T16:32:53 <_aj_> fjahr: i think you could reasonably go through the gist above and say "this is ugly, is there really a big benefit?" or "this is much better than what we do now! i like it!" and have that be a useful contribution
3312026-03-12T16:32:54 <ryanofsky> sgtm
3322026-03-12T16:33:11 <ryanofsky> yeah i'll take a look at the gist
3332026-03-12T16:33:22 <achow101> fjahr: topic for 31.0?
3342026-03-12T16:33:37 <fjahr> #topic v31
3352026-03-12T16:33:52 <achow101> we branched on tuesday night, tagged v31.0rc1 yesterday
3362026-03-12T16:34:00 <_aj_> yay!
3372026-03-12T16:34:21 <achow101> there's a backports pr and still a couple things in the milestone, so definitely will have a rc2
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3392026-03-12T16:34:35 <achow101> any new issues to add to the milestone?
3402026-03-12T16:35:07 <achow101> also release notes draft is in the wiki
3412026-03-12T16:35:47 <janb84> Testing guide will be adressed by BOSS program / me
3422026-03-12T16:36:03 <fjahr> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/milestone/74
3432026-03-12T16:37:08 <achow101> otherwise that's all
3442026-03-12T16:37:37 <fjahr> Any other topics?
3452026-03-12T16:37:38 <maflcko> I wanted to fix all intermittent test issues for this release, so if you are seeing any new, please let me know :)
3462026-03-12T16:37:45 <fanquake> Looks like I just saw another one
3472026-03-12T16:37:50 <fanquake> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/34367#issuecomment-4048211050
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3492026-03-12T16:38:03 <fanquake> (happened in the backports branch)
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3512026-03-12T16:38:22 <fanquake> I assume we'll fix all the multiprocess issues with another subtree pull?
3522026-03-12T16:38:37 <fanquake> (once the rest of the issues there are fixed)
3532026-03-12T16:38:41 <maflcko> Maybe let the functional tests run in a loop over night, this night, and see if it is still running the next morning. If not, leave an issue. (Make sure to increase --timeout-factor for smaller machines)
3542026-03-12T16:39:34 <fanquake> I don't have a Windows machine, so someone on Windows will have to do that for that issue (maybe UCRT related)
3552026-03-12T16:40:26 <maflcko> oh, I meant in general, to see if *all* dev machines and platforms can run the tests smoothly
3562026-03-12T16:40:48 <fanquake> Yea sure, will be running
3572026-03-12T16:40:53 <maflcko> nice, thx
3582026-03-12T16:41:34 <fjahr> #endmeeting
3592026-03-12T16:41:34 <corebot> fjahr: Meeting ended at 2026-03-12T16:41+0000
3602026-03-12T16:41:35 <corebot> fjahr: Raw log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2026/bitcoin-core-dev.2026-03-12_16_00.log.json
3612026-03-12T16:41:36 <corebot> fjahr: Formatted log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2026/bitcoin-core-dev.2026-03-12_16_00.log.html
3622026-03-12T16:41:37 <corebot> fjahr: Minutes: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2026/bitcoin-core-dev.2026-03-12_16_00.html
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3712026-03-12T17:01:28 <bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko merged pull request #264: mv ./delete_nonreduced_fuzz_inputs.sh from maintainertools repo (main...2603-bash) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/264
3722026-03-12T17:01:29 <bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/compare/d00c4f891e57...b30853a993f2
3732026-03-12T17:01:30 <bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main bc0fa7a MarcoFalke: mv ./delete_nonreduced_fuzz_inputs.sh from maintainertools repo
3742026-03-12T17:01:30 <bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main b30853a maflcko: Merge pull request #264 from maflcko/2603-bash
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3792026-03-12T17:08:02 <achow101> is corebot working now? #28318
3802026-03-12T17:08:05 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28318 | logging: Simplify API for level based logging by ajtowns · Pull Request #28318 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3812026-03-12T17:08:23 <achow101> yay
3822026-03-12T17:09:19 <achow101> hopefully github doesn't change things again and breaks that
3832026-03-12T17:11:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] maflcko opened pull request #197: mv delete_nonreduced_fuzz_inputs.sh to qa-assets repo (main...main) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/pull/197
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3852026-03-12T17:21:28 <sipa> i added a few TODOs to https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/31.0-Release-Notes-Draft, if someone is interested
3862026-03-12T17:24:06 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] fanquake pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/compare/1e004c3979b5...a39716b85255
3872026-03-12T17:24:07 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin-maintainer-tools/main fa0664e MarcoFalke: mv delete_nonreduced_fuzz_inputs.sh to qa-assets repo
3882026-03-12T17:24:07 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin-maintainer-tools/main a39716b merge-script: Merge bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools#197: mv delete_nonreduced_fuzz...
3892026-03-12T17:24:08 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] fanquake merged pull request #197: mv delete_nonreduced_fuzz_inputs.sh to qa-assets repo (main...main) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/pull/197
3902026-03-12T17:25:58 <darosior> Agree on a special mention for the dbcache default change. I also think it's worth having one for the updates to mempool-replacement.md
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4022026-03-12T18:12:50 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ViniciusCestarii opened pull request #34818: doc: fix process name typo in multiprocess.md (master...fix-multiprocess-doc-typo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34818
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4392026-03-12T22:22:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5608b8ce9e0f...f1e0245f8911
4402026-03-12T22:22:40 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c273214 ViniciusCestarii: doc: fix process name typo in multiprocess.md
4412026-03-12T22:22:41 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f1e0245 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#34818: doc: fix process name typo in multiprocess.md
4422026-03-12T22:22:42 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #34818: doc: fix process name typo in multiprocess.md (master...fix-multiprocess-doc-typo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/34818
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