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1182026-09-17T09:54:00 <vasild> If a security vulnerability or privacy leak has been found by using publicly accessible AI models. Then is it reasonable to assume that a hacker will find it as well?
1192026-09-17T09:55:27 <sliv3r__> a hacker could easily find it as well
1202026-09-17T09:55:45 <vasild> That is my understanding as well.
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1232026-09-17T09:58:08 <sliv3r__> I tried not much ago to ask the same model using different sessions the same questions with different words about some codebase, and the answers were all really similar with the same finding. So I would say anyone using a similar prompt and the same model would get a response close to what you got
1242026-09-17T09:59:05 <vasild> Then, the ordinary user Jue will not be aware of it (he does not pursue AIs like "find me a bug in this piece of software").
1252026-09-17T09:59:09 <vasild> sliv3r__: right
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1442026-09-17T11:07:21 <yancy> This speculation seems silly. If a security vulnerability or privacy leak has been found by publicly accessible AI models, then it's resonalbe to assume anyone can find it to find security problems.
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1612026-09-17T12:32:22 <vasild> yancy: do you mean my comment that "the ordinary user will not be aware of it"?
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1672026-09-17T12:50:38 <instagibbs> whatever a frontier model can do can likely mean open models will do in 3 months or less. The prompt engineering side of things matters too, e.g. an expert in a subsystem may know the right things to ask that a more naive attacker doesn't
1682026-09-17T12:52:24 <eugenesiegel> it's not reasonable to assume that all bugs are just inherently reachable with somebody who doesn't know what they're doing. if the expert is the only one who knows some attack "primitive" that's not documented anywhere, then the normie using the frontier model won't find it, but the expert using the frontier model will.
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1732026-09-17T13:11:37 <eugenesiegel> meant to say: "won't find a bug that uses/requires the primitive"
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1842026-09-17T13:54:44 <darosior> Yes. LLM scans do empower script kiddies, but let's not fall for security nihilism and throw good practices out the window because of that.
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2002026-09-17T14:51:03 <bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] hebasto merged pull request #889: Redesign peers list (qt6...peers-redesign) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/pull/889
2012026-09-17T14:51:04 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #36287: build: Bump Xcode CLT minimum supported version to 26.3 (master...2609-clt-bump) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/36287
2022026-09-17T14:51:04 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2bbbeaa663ec...a604a7647588
2032026-09-17T14:51:04 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4be88b9 fanquake: Squashed 'src/leveldb/' changes from 13da2d6758..53a1914e00
2042026-09-17T14:51:04 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7528f79 fanquake: Update leveldb subtree to latest master
2052026-09-17T14:51:04 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a604a76 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#36282: Update leveldb subtree to latest master
2062026-09-17T14:51:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited merged pull request #36282: Update leveldb subtree to latest master (master...update_leveldb_subtree) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/36282
2072026-09-17T14:51:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a604a7647588...ad97933af248
2082026-09-17T14:51:06 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa8fefb MarcoFalke: refactor: Use static const over inline const to work around ld64 bug
2092026-09-17T14:51:06 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ad97933 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#36285: refactor: Use static const over inline const ...
2102026-09-17T14:51:07 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited merged pull request #36285: refactor: Use static const over inline const to work around ld64 bug (master...2609-static-const-no-inline) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/36285
2112026-09-17T14:52:22 <bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] hebasto merged pull request #887: Staging 2: Onboarding, settings and block clock (staging...draft/qt6-chunk-2) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/pull/887
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2162026-09-17T15:05:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited opened pull request #36288: build: Revert remove `cmake/script/CoverageFuzz.cmake`" (master...revert_coverage_removal) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/36288
2172026-09-17T15:10:21 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #36241: build, doc: Warn on unprivileged Guix daemon usage (master...guix-warn-unprivileged) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/36241
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2282026-09-17T16:00:01 <fjahr> #startmeeting
2292026-09-17T16:00:01 <corebot> fjahr: Meeting started at 2026-09-17T16:00+0000
2302026-09-17T16:00:02 <corebot> fjahr: Current chairs: fjahr
2312026-09-17T16:00:03 <corebot> fjahr: Useful commands: #action #info #idea #link #topic #motion #vote #close #endmeeting
2322026-09-17T16:00:04 <corebot> fjahr: See also: https://hcoop-meetbot.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
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2342026-09-17T16:00:06 <corebot> fjahr: Participants should now identify themselves with '#here' or with an alias like '#here FirstLast'
2352026-09-17T16:00:08 <sipa> hi
2362026-09-17T16:00:09 <janb84> hi
2372026-09-17T16:00:09 <fjahr> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: _aj_ abubakarsadiq achow101 andrewtoth b10c brunoerg cfields danielabrozzoni darosior dergoegge dzxzg eugenesiegel fanquake fjahr furszy hebasto hodlinator instagibbs janb84 jarolrod johnny9dev jonatack josie jurraca kanzure kevkevin laanwj lightlike l0rinc maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator pseudoramdom ryanofsky sdaftuar sedited sipa sliv3r__ sr_gi stickies-v stringintech
2382026-09-17T16:00:10 <fjahr> theStack vasild willcl-ark
2392026-09-17T16:00:10 <dzxzg> hi
2402026-09-17T16:00:12 <instagibbs> hi
2412026-09-17T16:00:12 <eugenesiegel> hi
2422026-09-17T16:00:13 <pinheadmz> Yo
2432026-09-17T16:00:15 <willcl-ark> hi
2442026-09-17T16:00:16 <johnny9dev> hi
2452026-09-17T16:00:17 <vasild> hi
2462026-09-17T16:00:17 <maxedw> hi
2472026-09-17T16:00:17 <lightlike> hi
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2492026-09-17T16:00:22 <sr_gi> hi
2502026-09-17T16:00:23 <fjahr> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Any last minute ones to add?
2512026-09-17T16:00:25 <brunoerg> hi
2522026-09-17T16:00:29 <pseudoramdom> hi
2532026-09-17T16:00:33 <hebasto> hi
2542026-09-17T16:00:34 <sliv3r__> hi
2552026-09-17T16:00:45 <hodlinator> hi
2562026-09-17T16:00:50 <yancy> hi
2572026-09-17T16:01:17 <tigerMafia> hello world
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2592026-09-17T16:01:44 <danielabrozzoni> hi
2602026-09-17T16:01:47 <fjahr> Ok, let's do the WGs
2612026-09-17T16:01:52 <fjahr> #topic QA WG Update (brunoerg)
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2632026-09-17T16:02:10 <brunoerg> no update this week, will have a big one next week.
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2652026-09-17T16:02:29 <fjahr> #topic QML GUI WG Update (johnny9dev)
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2682026-09-17T16:03:06 <johnny9dev> Opened issue #36289 to track the QML staging branch
2692026-09-17T16:03:07 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/36289 | Upgrading the Gui to Qml tracking issue · Issue #36289 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2702026-09-17T16:03:12 <b10c> hi
2712026-09-17T16:03:19 <darosior> hi
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2742026-09-17T16:03:26 <pzafonte> hi
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2762026-09-17T16:03:44 <andrewtoth_> hi
2772026-09-17T16:03:51 <johnny9dev> Will use this issue to share my plan for merging gui-qml and help with organizing and prioritizing current issues that remain
2782026-09-17T16:04:47 <johnny9dev> We got another new contributor to the project this week, Andrea, and she has already fix a high priority issue for us
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2802026-09-17T16:05:29 <johnny9dev> thats all for this week
2812026-09-17T16:05:42 <fjahr> #topic Benchmarking WG Update (l0rinc, andrewtoth)
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2832026-09-17T16:05:53 <andrewtoth_> no update
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2852026-09-17T16:06:39 <fjahr> That's it for the WGs afaict, anything else to discuss?
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2872026-09-17T16:07:21 <fjahr> Anything of note from release testing?
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2982026-09-17T16:08:45 <fjahr> There is still some stuff to review here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/milestone/84
2992026-09-17T16:09:05 <fjahr> And maybe #36284 is interesting to still make into v32
3002026-09-17T16:09:07 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/36284 | wallet: don't double discard output groups with avoidpartialspends by fjahr · Pull Request #36284 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3032026-09-17T16:10:06 <fjahr> #endmeeting
3042026-09-17T16:10:06 <corebot> fjahr: Meeting ended at 2026-09-17T16:10+0000
3052026-09-17T16:10:07 <corebot> fjahr: Raw log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2026/bitcoin-core-dev.2026-09-17_16_00.log.json
3062026-09-17T16:10:08 <corebot> fjahr: Formatted log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2026/bitcoin-core-dev.2026-09-17_16_00.log.html
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3082026-09-17T16:10:10 <corebot> fjahr: Minutes: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2026/bitcoin-core-dev.2026-09-17_16_00.html
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3112026-09-17T16:10:45 <instagibbs> fjahr is that a new regression or long standing bug
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3142026-09-17T16:14:06 <fjahr> Came in with #24845 so longer standing
3152026-09-17T16:14:11 <corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24845 | wallet: return error msg for "too-long-mempool-chain" by furszy · Pull Request #24845 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3642026-09-17T18:14:33 <ryanofsky> In case it's interesting to anyone else I started working on a LLM tool yesterday to try to surface higher impact prs within categories for review: https://prio.ofsky.org/. It's early and has a lot of quirks, like apparently gemini is much worse than claude at detecting disagreement in a PR and marks things green even with unaddressed objections (should be fixed in tomorrow's push), but so far seems potentially promising.
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3682026-09-17T18:33:35 <kanzure> ryanofsky: pls deliver as email digest
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3792026-09-17T19:27:38 <ryanofsky> kanzure: Nice idea, made issue to track. Seems doable after things are more stable and switch to smaller updates instead of big batches. Email seems good as a way to show the tool can turn a written description of PRs you care about into an updated list of PRs you might want to review
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3812026-09-17T19:30:14 <kanzure> ryanofsky: oh if you're doing personalized then please do "diffs" reports (PRs that got added or removed from the digest) (or introspection into actual PR-internal level diffs/summaries). for that one, you should ask for users to BYOK for the inference :-)
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3832026-09-17T19:32:59 <ryanofsky> yeah the diff idea is already mentioned in the issue (https://github.com/ryanofsky/prio/issues/8). these are just personalized in the sense that if you don't like an existing category definition you can open a PR to change it, or add new category defined however you want. So personalized and public, not a private inference provider
3842026-09-17T19:33:32 <bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] johnny9 opened pull request #900: test: Fix animation timing assumptions in QML tests (qt6...test/qml-animation-synchronization) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/pull/900
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3952026-09-17T19:57:24 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fjahr opened pull request #36292: index: Delete old coinstats index directory on startup (master...2026-09-coinstats-b-gone) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/36292
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4182026-09-17T20:25:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ad97933af248...0e9018e8b656
4192026-09-17T20:25:18 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fdfd196 Fabian Jahr: rpc: Reuse AsmapVersion in exportasmap
4202026-09-17T20:25:19 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0bc8736 Fabian Jahr: init: Log asmap version from NetGroupManager
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4222026-09-17T20:27:00 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dd5a8a6 Fabian Jahr: test: Check embedded asmap version log and addrman re-bucketing
4232026-09-17T20:27:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited merged pull request #36249: net, rpc: Asmap version improvements/follow-ups (master...2026-09-asmap-ver-followup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/36249
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4802026-09-17T23:24:20 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc opened pull request #36293: contrib: prevent inactive keys from satisfying the binary verification quorum (master...l0rinc/verify-binaries-inactive-signers) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/36293
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