{"id":110,"date":"2006-06-28T13:50:42","date_gmt":"2006-06-28T03:50:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.erisian.com.au\/wordpress\/?p=110"},"modified":"2006-06-28T13:50:42","modified_gmt":"2006-06-28T03:50:42","slug":"on-being-dpl","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.erisian.com.au\/wordpress\/2006\/06\/28\/on-being-dpl","title":{"rendered":"On being DPL"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s almost the end of financial year in Australia, so what better time to take stock?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m actually a bit surprised at just how much I need to do that &#8212; I knew being DPL would involve some new challenges, but it&#8217;s barely two months in and I&#8217;m already just about in shock. Guess it serves me right for putting &#8220;increasing Debian&#8217;s tempo&#8221; in my platform&#8230; <!-- more --><\/p>\n<p>The two other roles I&#8217;ve been in that I would have expected to prepare me more have been Debian release manager, and secretary of Linux Australia. They&#8217;re both similar in a way &#8212; the release manager does a lot of cat herding within Debian, and has to make some calls that will leave people aggrieved; and Linux Australia has some contact with the press, and some reasonably serious projects going on. So a few issues were completely expected: <a href=\"http:\/\/linux.slashdot.org\/linux\/06\/04\/10\/0454226.shtml\">a random initial slashdotting<\/a>, a <a href=\"http:\/\/zdnet.com.au\/news\/software\/soa\/Towns_the_talk_of_Debian_Project\/0,2000061733,39251011,00.htm\">press report<\/a>, an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.linux.com\/article.pl?sid=06\/04\/11\/1818237\">interview<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/pro-linux.de\/berichte\/interview-towns-mcintyre-en.html\">two<\/a>, some requests for quotes in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.desktoplinux.com\/news\/NS6957752431.html\">articles<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sun.com\/smi\/Press\/sunflash\/2006-05\/sunflash.20060516.4.xml\">press<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.osdl.org\/newsroom\/press_releases\/2006\/2006_june_05_beaverton.html\">releases<\/a>, or ongoing <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-project\/2006\/04\/msg00158.html\">opposition<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-legal\/2006\/05\/msg00086.html\">arguments<\/a> from dedicated Debianites who don&#8217;t happen to agree with me on some decision.<\/p>\n<p>There were other things that were new and interesting though not really surprising. The leader@ mail address turned out to have just as much spam as I expected, though also some unexpected interesting stuff too, including my first ever personally addressed <a href=\"http:\/\/keithcu.com\/wordpress\/?p=25\">open letter<\/a> &#8212; in this case by Keith Curtis who also wrote the <a href=\"http:\/\/keithcu.com\/wordpress\/?p=24\">10,000 bugs away from World Domination<\/a> article that got slashdotted a while back. A tidbit:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Everyone agrees that Ubuntu couldn&#8217;t exist without Debian, but I also believe that Debian is better setup to take Ubuntu where it needs to go. There are hints that the Ubuntu team feels like they brought a pork chop suit to a lions den. Ubuntu&#8217;s user base and development team is growing exponentially, but I believe they could get there much faster with more of Debian&#8217;s help.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Keith also forwarded an open letter he&#8217;d <a href=\"http:\/\/keithcu.com\/wordpress\/?p=26\">written to Mark Shuttleworth<\/a>, and had some interesting comments on the whole Java thing. As well, I suddenly started receiving SPI board mail, as Debian&#8217;s advisory representative to the SPI board, and started getting a couple of requests for authorising expenditures (Debian UK reimbursing Matthew Garrett for travel costs to the Gnome Advisory Board meeting in 2005) or providing a Debian <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.schmehl.info\/Debian\/events\/DAM-II\">representative for a meeting<\/a> or joining the <a href=\"http:\/\/code.google.com\/soc\/debian\/about.html\">Google Summer of Code<\/a>. And then there were the cool things I knew absolutely nothing about, like the excellent news Christian Perrier passed on about the launch of <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2006\/06\/msg00001.html\">Dzongkha Linux<\/a>, featured in news reports from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kuenselonline.com\/modules.php?name=News&amp;file=article&amp;sid=7030\">Bhutan<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/indiaenews.com\/2006-06\/12092-computers-bhutans-dzongkha.htm\">India<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.computerworld.com.au\/index.php\/id;1239885333;fp;2;fpid;1\">Australia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, I completely expected that all this would overload me a bit, and I&#8217;d end up getting distracted from what I wanted to do, and not being able to keep up with stuff other people wanted me to do. To help with this a little, I <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2006\/04\/msg00015.html\">delegated<\/a> Steve McIntyre as, essentially, a co-DPL, and he&#8217;s been <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2006\/05\/msg00003.html\">working on<\/a> a few things, including the now successful switch of irc.debian.org over to <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2006\/05\/msg00012.html\">OFTC<\/a>, and another fun little endeavour that I won&#8217;t spoil just yet.<\/p>\n<p>Things started getting a bit weird as I was preparing to travel off to debconf in Mexico &#8212; with some frustrated comments from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.damog.net\/20060507\/a-bit-pissed-off\/\">damog<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marga.com.ar\/blog\/index.cgi\/debian\/Debconf6_and_other_stuff.html\">Marga<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/debconf6.debconf.org\/blog\/2006\/05\/12#gw_sad\">Gunnar<\/a>, which was odd coming from the conference organisers themselves; and independently the <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2006\/04\/msg00943.html\">reinflamation<\/a> of some old tension on the debian-installer team. That got compounded at debconf itself, with the controversy over the inclusion of Sun Java in non-free extending not just to the lists, but an article in <a href=\"http:\/\/lwn.net\/Articles\/184942\/\">LWN<\/a> (with a <a href=\"http:\/\/lwn.net\/Articles\/186407\/\">followup<\/a>) as well as numerous other places around the net.<\/p>\n<p>That issue came to something of a climax when John Goerzen (with whom I&#8217;ve had some <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2000\/06\/msg00252.html\">entertaining disagreements<\/a> in the past) <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2006\/06\/msg00256.html\">questioned<\/a> whether SPI had been sufficiently involved in the decision (&#8220;I am becoming increasingly concerned at the unilateral method in which you and\/or the archive maintainers have taken this decision.&#8221;), to which I <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2006\/06\/msg00285.html\">responded fairly curtly<\/a> to defend the way Debian makes decisions (&#8220;If SPI wish to withdraw from their relationship with Debian, then that&#8217;s entirely possible to arrange. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s at all proper that you try to obtain veto power of Debian&#8217;s activities as conducted by the duly authorised members of that organisation.&#8221;). Nothing&#8217;s really news there &#8212; flamewar on Debian lists between influential project members? Next thing you know the sun will rise in the East every morning, and then where will we be?<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s not so normal is those flamewars getting <a href=\"http:\/\/linux.slashdot.org\/linux\/06\/06\/07\/047204.shtml\">front page coverage<\/a> on slashdot, or noted in an <a href=\"http:\/\/distrowatch.com\/weekly.php?issue=20060612\">article<\/a> on distrowatch. As far as Debian&#8217;s concerned, we had <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2006\/06\/msg00287.html\">a<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2006\/06\/msg00294.html\">couple<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2006\/06\/msg00336.html\">more<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2006\/06\/msg00388.html\">rounds<\/a>, both in public and on the developer only -private list, then moved onto actually <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2006\/06\/msg00412.html\">getting<\/a> the legal advice John wanted. That&#8217;s actually still pending, and the debate has pretty much abated while that&#8217;s going on. And meanwhile, Wouter Verhelst, Manoj Srivastava, and others have started a much more <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-project\/2006\/06\/msg00080.html\">productive look<\/a> at Debian&#8217;s relationship with SPI and similar organisations, which has continued on to a <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-vote\/2006\/06\/msg00063.html\">draft<\/a> of a constitutional amendment.<\/p>\n<p>But there was more <a href=\"http:\/\/debconf6.debconf.org\/blog\/2006\/05\/19#removal_of_attendee\">stress and chaos<\/a> at debconf than just the Java stuff, but what&#8217;s really impressive is the way people ended up dealing with it. Take <a href=\"http:\/\/www.damog.net\/20060519\/great-debconf\/\">damog<\/a> for example:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Just as Tore said: This is the best DebConf ever. Isn&#8217;t it great?<\/p>\n<p>I started really enjoying this DebConf once I stopped worrying about bullshit, once I stopped worrying about senseless things and started to really give a shit about almost anything. Why do I need Gunnar to tell my girlfriend Ana, &#8220;you picked up the irresponsible one&#8221;? Why do I have to worry about the DPL giving a shit or not on the Latinamerican Debian community, even after being invited to meet the guys or to attend our BOF? [&#8230;] I enjoy people here, thanks to all the organization cabal, thanks for your effort and your time on this.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>But after leaving all of this behind, I think Ana and me are having a great time sharing time with friends around us (the friends, <i>los cuates<\/i>, we are here for).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>After seeing that post, and figuring out who damog actually was when he gave a lightning talk towards the end of the conference, we had a chance to briefly chat about what was going on &#8212; somehow I hadn&#8217;t taken in the invitation to attend the BOF, and had been told it was all in Spanish anyway, so hadn&#8217;t gone; meanwhile they&#8217;ve been thinking about holding a Debian miniconf in Latin America somewhere and wanting to know what sort of support they can get from the rest of the project &#8212; particularly moral support rather than financial, at that. Hopefully we&#8217;ll see news on that score in the coming months.<\/p>\n<p>But really, damog was right in the first place anyway: why care if the DPL supports you or not? Debian&#8217;s about everyone doing what they think is good and worthwhile, and that combining to produce something great &#8212; it&#8217;s not about what some guy who got six votes more than the next guy happens to think is important.<\/p>\n<p>But support is important, whether it comes in the form of a DPL saying &#8220;good idea!&#8221;, or <a href=\"http:\/\/debconf6.debconf.org\/blog\/2006\/05\/20\">something else<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gwolf.org\/index.php?blog\/show\/I_have_been_hugged\">Gunnar&#8217;s response<\/a> to the latter, eg:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Debian is love.<\/p>\n<p>After my scream for help a couple of days ago, and after a mountain of hard work, things are just running. No, we are not -by far- free of incidents, and it would be foolish to expect it to be so, but we are working nicely. And by the way, thank you, I have been receiving the largest amount of hugs ever, and believe me, each of them has been important.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Thank you all, folks. I am in Cristoph Berg&#8217;s talk about reworking NM &#8211; And this comes very good to wrap up my post. Debian is much, much more than technical work. It is a social club. I love this social club. Just sitting here makes long months of work really worth it.<\/p>\n<p>A great hug back to you all!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>And in the end we got quite a bit out of debconf6, for example <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2006\/05\/msg00015.html\">more movement on the forthcoming release<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2006\/06\/msg00003.html\">improvements on i18n stuff<\/a>, a <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2006\/06\/msg00005.html\">new publicity project<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2006\/06\/msg00008.html\">movement on updating python<\/a>, amongst other things. Who knows if the next debconf will manage to be anywhere near as much of an experience, but at least we&#8217;ll find out <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-project\/2006\/06\/msg00265.html\">fairly soon<\/a> where it&#8217;s going to be (though that process isn&#8217;t without <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debconf.org\/lurker\/message\/20060622.155021.bf08c320.en.html\">hiccups<\/a> of its own).<\/p>\n<p>Post debconf, there&#8217;s also been a notable influx of trolling going on too; with the most obvious and odious example being the <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-project\/2006\/06\/msg00143.html\">insane, anonymously-posted prayers for a female developer&#8217;s death<\/a>. Fortunately those have mostly been ignored as the mindless spam they are, though one might argue that <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-women\/2006\/06\/msg00078.html\">Marcela Tiznado&#8217;s<\/a> acceptance as a DD on her birthday, and the <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-women\/2006\/06\/msg00058.html\">inclusion<\/a> of <a href=\"http:\/\/women.debian.org\/\">women.debian.org<\/a> in the official debian.org namespace are a more appropriate response to that sort of harassment than any sort of direct reply anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Not all our problems have conveniently been resolved right now, of course, the difficulties related to the installer team I alluded to above are <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-boot\/2006\/06\/msg01395.html\">ongoing<\/a>, and at the moment a really good solution is still eluding us, though development continues anyway.<\/p>\n<p>And then, of course, there&#8217;s more to come &#8212; half the point of posting this is so I can stop worrying about all the stuff that&#8217;s been and gone, and get on with interesting things like the <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2006\/06\/msg00007.html\">next point release<\/a>, and the various other projects that I&#8217;ve let languish for the past few weeks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s almost the end of financial year in Australia, so what better time to take stock? I&#8217;m actually a bit surprised at just how much I need to do that &#8212; I knew being DPL would involve some new challenges, but it&#8217;s barely two months in and I&#8217;m already just about in shock. 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