Dunc-tank Report Ideas

Okay, so with the “Bits from the DPL” talk that Sam and I shared now out of the way, that hopefully means finishing off the whole dunc-tank thing won’t imply any more conflicts of interest, potential or otherwise. And since we’ve now had the post-etch release team report, there shouldn’t be much to wait around for.

I’d been kinda hoping to be able to come to debconf with a pre-prepared report of similar quality to the debconf6’s final report (or debconf5’s for that matter); but while I was going back through the discussion threads, it just got harder and harder to find a way of writing the report that didn’t seem like it’d just inspire the same arguments again. I think that’s avoidable — I know some of the people who were against the way dunc-tank ended up have indicated there are other approaches they might support, and it ought to be possible to summarise the dunc-tank experience in a way that lets us have a better idea what to do in the future based on that experience, than have the same disagreements we’ve already had. Anyway, my best guess is to try crafting the report via blogging or put it on a wiki or something.

Anyway, there are three things that I thought we could usefully have in a report that wouldn’t devolve into the same old arguments (after all, if we at least have new arguments, that’s some sort of progress!).

First of all is trying to have a real understanding of what happened with etch — getting a release out is complicated with lots of potential blockers beyond just “release management” work: d-i, kernel, toolchain, CDs, builds, bug tracking, whatever. Presumably dunc-tank only ever had a chance of removing release management as a blocker, and since we can’t redo the etch release while changing parameters like dunc-tank or Vancouver, at least having as clear as possible understanding of which blockers happened when, and what other influences might have been important the release process seems like a good way of understanding the influences that were and weren’t important, so we can have a better idea what to do in future. I’m figuring a reasonable structure might be something like:

  • Release blockers between July 2006 and April 2007
  • Analsyis of bug discovery/resoution rates between July 2006 and April 2007
  • Comparison of major statistics for etch with previous releases (freeze length, etc)
  • Comparison of etch with Ubuntu’s edgy release (October 2006, roughly the time dunc-tank started), and feisty release (April 2007, roughly the same time as etch’s release)
  • Summary of other release timliness projects: Vancouver proposal, release assistants, BTS version tracking and changes to RC bug monitoring, transition monitoring through the entire release cycle, binNMU changes, improvements in experimental support, BSP marathons
  • Summary of release quality projects: DFSG-free content, LSB support, security support for testing, QA meetings, piuparts runs, whole archive rebuild testing

The theory is that the above should provide the information to make a good judgement of what (if any) effect dunc-tank (or the other projects) had on the release, without implying a preconceived conclusion of whether dunc-tank’s “good” or “bad” or whatever.

As well as looking at the release stuff in some depth, it seems to me to be pretty sensible to do a report on how dunc-tank worked financially. Anyone doing any similar sort of “let’s raise funds, then spend them on free software” is going to have similar issues in getting publicity, collecting funds, and actually spending them, no matter how they end up deciding on the harder questions of deciding who or what to fund. There’s not a lot to say there, and I don’t think there’s much that’s controversial there either, but there are a few problems and approaches to solving them that are worth reporting on.

I think that’s about as far as you can get trying to cleverly avoid the controversy though. And presuming we rule out the idea of choosing a position on some of the controversial questions and advocating for that (“dunc-tank was good, paying release managers was awesome, we should do it again for everyone!”), the best idea I’ve had so far is to just try summarising some of the controversial questions that remain open, which Debian, or dunc-tank, or whoever can then address in whatever way we like — by GRs, or further debate, or more experiments, or leaving it to other people to do for us, or whatever. So having the questions and some of the arguments for various answers and summarising what happened with dunc-tank seems like a plausible way to go. The questions I’ve got:

  • Is paid work compatible with volunteer work?
    • How the release managers and assistants reacted to doing volunteer work while someone was paid to do similar work
    • Other developers — some donated; others resigned or reduced work
    • Dunc-bank and QA initiatives
  • How much distance should there be between Debian and whoever’s funding development?
    • Involvement of DPL and high-profile developers
    • Involvement of SPI
    • Statements from press reports about the relationship
    • Votes to support/endorse/recommend against
    • Donors being confused as to where to donate funds
  • How should work or developers to be funded be chosen?
    • Potential for favouritism
    • Potential for misalignment with Debian’s goals
    • Choosing based on least controversy or most benefit
  • How should paid “volunteer” work be priced?
    • Covering living expenses?
    • Comparable rate to similar proprietary/commercial development?
    • “Market” rates?
    • Full-time versus part-time work
    • Contracts versus prizes or bounties or rewards

No promises as to whether they’re the best questions, the best sub-points, or that we’re going to be able to come to an answer on any of them. :)

Anyway, that’s my theory so far, no I need to grab some lunch before the next lot of talks — feel free to mail me, or talk to me in person, or blog responses or whatever…

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